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Empiree:
Whats the purpose of asking?. If you go to the mosque chilling, does that look like a serious student?. Instead of asking silly questions, how about you wait until your turn?. All your questions shall be duly answered after you are shrouded. Dont you think this is the perfect answer to your question.

RoyPCain:
@pneumaticos: Jesus didn't have any answer for any dead body, put in grave or otherwise. so you are falsifying statements against Jesus.

@justlove9
no one went to the mosque will be reporting what you have done above. you are asking for answer to question arose in your mind when the expert was lecturing. shouldn't be logical to ask the expert lecturer instead of exposing the fact that it is highly probably that you made this up?

my opinion now. no muslim will like to be cremated because thats is punishment by itself. no muslim wants to be food of animal because it obvious that it is a serious text or punishment. test in that it will be talk of community and no one member of that community will like it for him/herself. imagine those that are now bones. once upon a time they were young and walking on earth. if you could have asked them when they were alive if they would like to have their remains exhumed for any reason including making room for 'road', no one of them would have said its alright. again, when something that is not a thing of honor or happiness happens, the disbelievers are probably being punished by it. in the case of believers, they are going through test and their sins may actually be eliminated by it. God knows Best the Truth of each and every matter.

this is a test; Muslim getting sick. He bears it with patience and hope in Allah.
this is punishment: disbeliever has the same sickness like the muslim. the disbeliever crys out why me and even say horrible things against The Almighty. if he dies on this, his condition forever will be worse and it is then that when he was alive in spite of the condition he suffered, that was his paradise.

advise to both of you and others like you is that not telling the truth about God and or giving His Rights to His creation or withdrawing His Rights from Him, there is Judgment to face and it will not be pretty. Jesus of the Bible will not suddenly get power to do anything for you. his ability as he said is 'of my own power i can do nothing'.

Emmeritus:
THERE IS PUNISHMENT IN THE GRAVE FOR THOSE WHO DISBELEIVE-TO THE OP DO U THINK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL BURIAL GROUND?HENCE YOUR ABSURD QUESTION.

usermane:
Empiree, 9jaforlife, i "ll love to have your answer to the OP 's question. I think this is a very important issue, considering that you present yourselves here as Muslims who believe in the punishment of the grave. Please lets be focused.

Bobbysworld28:
For ur mind, ifeann.
Empiree is this agressive and u want to go with his recommendation?
Do u hv a death wish? Dont evn consider the offer. It is a poisoned chalice

Anas09:
Pls why are we not refuting what the author wrote there? Are they lies? Why are we attacking each other here? Discuss what he said. And remember while u r at it. Leave christianity out of it. He didn't convert to christianity, at least not yet.

Empiree:
stop lying. You havent tell the truth. Kindly define who good muslim is....let's see. thanks

julybaba:
Please if you haven't read those trash, don't bother reading them. They represent worldly wisdom, exorcism and all evils, any christian should avoid. It is not a prove for atheist, it is introduction to the evil world.

YourMain:
I'm sorry but that is a lie. I'd like to see how they clash please

YourMain:
Lol I completely disagree. Id like to think I'm a good person and I'm also a good muslim.

Empiree:
They think we are foolish

9jaforlife:
Ifeann aka parisbookaddict aka P*rostitute, you're not just a hypocritical liar, you're shameless and void of dignity. It's one thing that you're obsessed with sex, but must you display your shameless fantasy in details for all to see?? What's that nonsense in the bold part of your post? And you're supposed to be a lady??

The determination to tarnish the image of the Prophet (peace be on him) has ruined you! You're just a patethic excuse of a woman. Shameless goat!

Ifeann:
U are welcome.. I am very interested in ur journey..would love updates..I know other ex muslims . .plus ur writing skills and comments is refreshing. ..

Stay happy

ifeness:
Books written by fools for fools and advertised by the biggest fool.

Kay17:
It is difficult and doubtful to accept a material proof of anti material phenomenon.

Metaphysics is very volatile, it is backgroundless, therefore material proofs of antimaterials is either false or impossible.

9jaforlife:
He pretends he's not a Christian to be able to bash Muslims. I asked him about his belief and he ignored the question! How can you say:

I'm an ex- Muslim (not a Muslim)

I'm not a Christian

I'm not an atheist (that makes him a theist, a believer in at least a form of god).... but he just says he belongs to none of these. Is that even possible?

9jaforlife:
First of all, that Iran and the west are at logger heads is not a new thing. Both of them have long standing hostilities brewing among them. So, whatever happens there will definitely have political undertone.

Secondly, religious books do not speak favourably of people who do not follow its teachings. It's not exclusively a characteristic of the Quran, the bible is guilty as well.

Also, is he trying to say that he NEVER had an idea of how the westerners were, irrespective of what he was told, before he travelled to a western country? The West is known for showing off and presenting themselves in the best way possible, even till this day some people don't believe that there's a dirty street in America. So, he never learned about Westerners through any means, never watched TV to see their news, no movies, words from travelers etc?? This was a well to do family, remember?

Finally, if the Quran calls disbelievers 'unclean', does it mean that it's talking about clean houses and clean clothes?? How dumb of him to take the word 'dirty' to mean physical appearance!

johnydon22:
[size=20] Very Good you have decided to unshackle yourself from the chains of religion, all this religions are all the same. . . thats the same way i untangled myself my the christian religion, they are all fraud and some guys mythical fabrications... learn to think for yourself, and much more happiness and peace of mind will follow.. [/size]

blueyedgeek:
hehehe, I haven't even had the time. You'll get my review of the book when I do read it (should be this week)

bamson94:
Pls fellow naira landers,can a very addicted masturbator ever be free from the addiction?

Empiree:
Are you muslim?

Pr0ton:
@Ayoku777

Wow! Impressive explanation you've got there, though reveals more problems to the question at hand.

You qouted 1 Pt. 4:6 to explain how the dead have the opportunity to hear the gospel and then make a choice of either rejecting or accepting. There are problems here.

First, Eccl 9:5 says, "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." Clearly in that verse, a dead person is always unconscious, unable to make judgement and totally inactive. How them would they be able to hear the gospel and make decisions without making God's own words imperfect somehow?

Second, 1 Pt. 4:6 is apparently telling what Jesus did during his 3 days in hell. He preached to the dead, contradicting God's word. And no, He is not still in hell preaching. He has resurrected. And what will become of those who died after His resurrection?

Remember, "the righteousness of the righteous shall be his"

sod09:
u can go nd die.......d more u criticize Islam d more its grow

9jaforlife:
Hmm... That was a long read. I find the writer questionable anyway. Why would anyone live for decades among people of shared faith (Muslims in this case, including his own family) and claim that everyone (or most) of them are bad natured? Isn't it funny how he claimed that the first time he ever experienced hospitality was in Australia or so, when an old couple offered him food for free, in a clean environment. Meaning that nobody was ever that nice to him for decades in his home country? And he didn't see clean environments back home? A family that is comfortable enough to send him for schooling abroad? I would even doubt the integrity of anyone who claims that people of different faith are bad. In every religion and even among atheists, you find good and bad people. I don't know why some individuals think that they MUST bash those who hold contrary opinions just to make theirs look good. He claims that he's a smart thinker but he quotes the Quran in a less than smart way. The issue of people twisting Quran verses intentionally to denigrate Islam (or ignorantly misinterpreting them) is now boring but not outdated. Ifeann, aka parisbookaddict and some others do it so well on NL. I posted about 3 comments to point out to ignorant readers who might fall for it here

https://www.nairaland.com/9jaforlife/posts (4.48, 5.16 and 6.35 am)

Anyway, you said you're an ex-Muslim and implied that you're neither a Christian nor an atheist. That makes you a theist, a believer that God exists. Is it possible to be a theist, and yet, not belong to any religion? Just curious, no offence intended. Religion is so diversified these days that it's almost confusing

Dolypson04:
As much as I would want to condemn Islam as a religion after reading this article, I can see the similarities in Quran and Old testament. Definitely Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. The only path to Almighty God. He never preached violence. He even said "pray for your enemy. It's never too late. Drop ur ego, repent and accept Jesus today!

tartar9:
in summary what has he posted?

Dolypson04:
As much as I would want to condemn Islam as a religion after reading this article, I can see the similarities in Quran and Old testament. Definitely Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. The only path to Almighty God. He never preached violence. He even said "pray for your enemy. It's never too late. Drop ur ego, repent and accept Jesus today!