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michmekas:
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Good luck!

Another silly scam.

usewisdom:
@ Justwise, How did you get here? Did someone leave your cage open? Infact, you should wear a condom on your head. You think u can insult me for nothing? What’s your gain?
You’re so rude, but keep talking. I always yawn when I’m reading your reply on this topic. You just want to prove you’re the smartest in nairaland, and we know that you would go to the end of the world for us. But would you stay there? Don’t u realize that a times when you talk, other people get hoarse just listening. U need to read yourself. Stop been rude for nothing, and if u want to be good, be good and stop playing games. HAPPINESS today UNHAPPINESS TOMORROW ITS OVER NOTHING.
Oya now, talk, i'm listening by Adigun Alapomeji,

Rambling rambling and more rambling. . what exactly are you going on about? I know you are a waste of space, just stop making a muppet of yourself.

buzugee:
now lets dissect the word 'parasites' , as it is a harsh label. some people are voluntary parasites. some people are involuntary parasites. victims of circumstances. the later do not deserve the 'parasite' tag 

When you become a liability to your host, only taking and not giving back then you become a parasite, in fact an endoparasite.

usewisdom:
My people, let's be realistic. Justwise need to be proactrive and not reactive. I understand him realy. but my point is ''Must you expect a reward from someone you want to help or you helped?
And lastly, beside what they're facing in UK, some are realy wicked, and even if they earn £50k monthly, they will still show u peper. People like that should be stoned to death or disowned by Nigeria itself.
We need to help ourselves and show some love. Thats what the bible says, Justwise, be PROACTIVE and practice your name.
I'm expecting your next bomb on me O!

Somebody should be stoned to death because they refused to be used by parasites like you? The only part of your brain cell that works just failed you again.

embassyman:
Bros, do u really know the reason why u were issued a uk visa? cos u applied a unique wisdom and go in a unique way, ok see this: u submitted on 1-11-11 and u went for collectiong on 17-11-11 and u travel down 21-11-11 dont u see uniqueness in those days, those days have their angels and they all work for u for gud, try it some other time, u will get American Visa, gud kuck

Stop deceiving yourself, those dates means nothing when it comes to visa success, you will get ur visa if you met the requirements.

jascon1:
i believe laziness contributes to your problem. i know is not easy accomodating someone even in 9ja here. is same. your host expects some favour in return. naturally, as humans we appreciate living with hardworking ppl. again as nigerians we have SWEET MOUTH. sweetmouth and sincere familial gestures drive deep into the heart and make ppl endear to us. we know say for 9ja as a normal worker, dont wake up 8am. impossible! and for those living in lagos, abuja or portharcourt we can testify time serious workers wake up. only a lazy jobless man will BE AWAKEN 8am. na sleep u go sleep for irland. and duty call demands, [b]when u are working, u must assist your host. no matter how little. at least the jobless woman lives on grants and she got kids. [/b]u have to assist her. before she asks, give her what you have budgetted and make it plain. i dont think if you give b4 she asks and explain why it is so she will ask again. for the kids, to baff pikin again na work? chai! you just expose how lazy u be. so if na your pikin, even tho say u don tire, u no go fit baff dem. another thing be say, maybe, (clears throat) you no dey give am magic bed-shakes. na true na! maybe she don reson am, how man go dey her house and yet she dey catch cold. be a daddy to her kids and a man to her, i swear u gain t top respect from any woman. as for the guy wey dey take person money, e no good oh! that na hard earned money in a foreign land. e no easy at all. na God go reward am. make your friend find one good girl marry for there. u! WAKE UP! u r lazy and u have no appreciation at all.

Thank you!! That is just the point.

bullet G:
Going by what i have read so far, i noticed Nigerians in UK are more against helping out!, i think this is a uk thing!, the are sooooo stingy!, generally naija's in abroad dont like to help others, but its worst in UK. i was in london 4 1year but am based on the schengen side of Europe now. Come to Austria, Germany, Swizz, Spain, Holland , Greece or even Sweden, people come in on a daily basis without money, home or even cloths and the are been accommodated and taken care of untill the find there feet. for example, in Austria there are lots of people from Agbo, once someone comes to Austria and you are from Agbo, then u dont have problem, the will take u in immediately and take care of u. like in Greece, we have different Nigerian associations, once a new person comes in, his being taken the association where he is from and these association have houses the pay for , for new comers. the problem with people in uk is that uk still have 9ja mentality, everybody is claiming to be rich, to much competition, jealousy, and no one wants to help because the feel the are better than u and the dont want u to succeed like them.
My final word is this, guys in abroad, if you can afford to help, assist or accommodate a fellow brother, please just do it with an open mind, some will appreciate u while others might not, dont come here to justify urself cos u dont have the good will to help someone,

You are obviously reading people's post upside down, people are NOT against helping other Nigerians, the issue is when somebody helps you then show some form of appreciation, be useful to that person no matter how little. Don't eat your cake and have it. If you are too big to appreciate what somebody has done for you without been told then provide for yourself simple!!

iiiyyyk:
House join me thank God Almighty. I have been issued a UK visa.

I applied on the 1-11-11, I tracked online and was told its ready for collection on the 17-11-11. i traveld to lagos on monday 21-11 for collection. lo and behold i was given the visa. this is my first application.

I want to thank every member of this tread. for all your contributions really helped.
May God bless u all, especially omotie one and justwise you guys are wonderful people.

I started by reading the entire tread from page one to the last. i took notes of all important points. i did this many months before my application date. i asked just one question and was answered by justwise. i took time to gather my documents and application to avoid mistakes due to rush. I believe every thing we need to know is already on the dread all we need do is to patiently read through and learn from the reasons of refusals from others.
Pls lets keep posting our experiences and questions, it is really helping.

Please, i want to know how much is the minimum amount i can hold as BTA?. i will be traveling on Tuesday.
Once again thank you every one.

I'm really happy for you, congrat.

As per BTA. . . take money that will cover ur expenses. . . accommodation, feeding, transport , . . depending on how long you planned to stay in the UK.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=811458.msg9633051#msg9633051 date=1322251763]Unless you are planning to travel on Holidays this christmas, or you have an urgent need to trave lout of the UK, then go for same day application using premium service. Postal service application duration depends on a number of issues and how straight forward you package your application. Some have had their application processed within two weeks other four weeks!

Guess you are also aware that following the immigration rules, while your visa application is being considered, it is as though your previous visas is still valid, so you can go about your normal activity pending the outcome of your application.

As for the online forms not being available, UKBA are having technical issues and they are hoping to get it fixed over the weekend. So you may want to check back on Monday.[/quote]Which immigration rule please?

buzugee:
ahhhh but you dont get it. you have to give people some leeway before you start heaping demands on them.anyway the issue here is if you are not financially solvent enough to take someone in, then you shouldnt. you are doing a disservice both to yourself and the person you take in.

The issue of demand shouldn't come in at all if he helps out around the house without been told, no matter how little its, at least clean your own mess and don't wait for your host to remind you.

buzugee:
no you dont but this is what lots of teenagers do and people in their early twenties. i was once like that i have to admit. you just want to get out of naija. dont have any solid plans. just wanna get out. then you somehow find yourself in whatever country all confused and at the mercy of whomever took you in. it happens more times than you care to know.

Yes it does happen but when anybody volunteered to accommodate you then appreciate it, don't start moaning about petty things like tidying up and help out around the house, if you are too big to do that then take the next available flight back to Nigeria.

buzugee:
all you simple minded bellicose nigerians sef. if you are too cheap to comfortably offer your fellow man unparalleled and infinite hospitality and accommodation then please dont do it. is it by force ? gezzzz. yall sound like you need jobs as PETTY officers. most people who do this type of things are youths. at thatt age their mind is not fully right. they are experiencing culture shock[b] coupled [/b]with the anticipation and anxiety of how to get ahead in a new country coupled with battling the kind of cold weather they have never experienced in their life coupled with having to adjust to sharing those tiny london flats coupled with all the other adjustments they have to make. they are mentally frozen for at least 3 months before they snap out of it and then start getting comfortable with their new sorroundings and how to go about getting stuff done. BOTTOM LINE ----IF YOU ARE TOO CHEAP TO OFFER SOMEONE FROM NAIJA UNPARALLELED AND INFINITE HOSPITALITY FOR 3 MONTHS WITHOUT EXPECTING THEM TO START SWEEPING YOUR HOUSE OR PAYING YOUR BILLS OR WASHING YOUR PLATES OR TAKING YOUR LIL BELLIGERENT KIDS TO SCHOOL OR TRYING TO PUSH THEM OUT ETC ETC ETC, THEN PLEASE DONT DO IT. AS IT IS THE FIRST 3 MONTHS IN ANY YOUTHS LIFE IN ANY WESTERN COUNTRY FROM NAIJA IS FULL OF ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. WHAT THEY NEED IS LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING. IF YOU CANT PROVIDE IT THEN PLEASE DO NOT.  

You don't leave Nigeria with all those ''couples'' to depend on anybody in a foreign land in 21 century.

kelz88:
Bottom line is, some Nigerians have a way of over staying their welcome/taking the piss.

How can you go abroad and not have money for accomodation?

How can you stay with someone and not help around the house?


We have accommodated a few people that took the piss, home and abroad. We've had distant relatives come to stay the weekend and ended up staying over a week. These same people sometimes stole from us. Some of them helped around the house, some didn't.

Recently, my sister's friend stayed at ours for 3 weeks. [b]The only thing this girl did was cook a pot of delicious stew. [/b]She did not wash a fork, let alone a plate or pot.

I can't go to someone's house and not help out. Even at my sister's I do stuff, not to talk of staying with a distant relative. I was brought up well.

Some humans amaze me.

she try now

I watched those clips on Al Jazeera, they are great especially the fool's Gold and Zimbabwe Child Ex.

creamofluv:
I always say this and i will say it again, Nigerians back home are way, alot better than nigerians in the UK especially. Plus some people says why Nigerians in the UK doesnt help.

I will tell you why, cause some of them are ungrateful B.A.S.T.ARD and that's a fact. Situations here in the UK are so vicous circle, a guy has a problem, you asked him to come to your house, he stayed there for 6 months, didnt pay a dime towards the rent, He got his own place, few months or yrs down the road, you had a problem, you went back to the guy you helped for 6 months to house you for a while till you get back on ya feet, guess what the guy treat you like dirt, like you never helped him before.

Am sure some of ya'll will understand what I mean.

Nigerians here are just useless and ungrateful.

That is not necessary, please edit your post.

Vie:
Hello,

I am about to submit my PSW application and considering the new issues with immigration law in the UK,[b] can anyone tell me if the degree grade can affect the application. [/b]My degree certificate is not ready yet but i have a letter from my institution that meets the requirements set out in the guidance policy. Also, are there any pointers i should take note of, i am applying from within the UK.

Thanks.

As long as you passed your course then u got nothing to worry about, they don't judge you by your degree grade.

usewisdom:
And justwise, pls stop changing the topic to SHOWING SIGN OF APPRECIATION. This is a question to nairalanders WHY DO NIGERIANS IN ABROAD DONT HELP THEMSELVES, and i will appreciate different answers, only from those that their IQ is working perfectly. Not from greedy/selfish people in abroad. Not any of them though !!

Reading what you have written so far. . . i rather die with my 'low' IQ.

usewisdom:
@Justwise, what do u have to say about what ''Ileke-IdI '' and ''Bullet G'' wrote there?
The problem u always have and most people here have discovered is simple you always run away from the truth.
The topic of this issue is not about showing sign of appreciation. Principal in life cannot work with somebody or anybody's clock. If you can't help from the start then suit yourself.  Our old yoruba fathers says ''ibere ki n se onise, afi eni toba pari e''

Are u telling us here that it has never happened before? And those that happened to was as a result for not shwoing sign of appreciation? Comon, stop dancing yahoozee in my brain. Heyy all Nairalanders, let me tell u the BITTER TRUTH, justwise actualy knows the truth, but he's just trying to ignore the truth for his own selfish interest so as to get hailed as the true writer. for you guys to prove me wrong, go back and search for all similar thread like this and read, u will see all his comments there as the opposite of what he wrote here. What a rubish. Stop encouraging greedy nigerians in diaspora like you.

Go out there and see ghanians, pakistanians, etc, they use to help themselves, so what are u talking about?
Come back and and type a 20 pages in other to paint yourself a good color in support of greedy & selfish nigerians like you.
You know what, if any of your family come to visit you in UK or wherever, give them a condition and ask them to begin to dey wash your bath 4u, cook 4u, brush your bteeth 4u, even tanmper 4u if u pupu. Not only that, you can ask 5 of them to move close to your bed so as for u to feel warm by turning them to heather.

You no get mouth i beg. You're simple one of them, and you have sent you fellow nigerians away from you house all because you realise he's getting some penny, all because you've used your own money drink, smoke, go party, club, aristo, ashawo, omo runs, omo gheto, omo burta, omo buruku bla lbla bla.
Guy wake up and be a good NIGERIANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

All you have done here is ramble, pointless, full of garbage.

Siena:
Why don't Nigerians abroad like helping other Nigerians? Well, read this! This is an extract from a very good friend's blog:

Freedom Dance 2

So I was saying,

When I was in Bristol, I learnt so many things that made me and broke me. The culture shock was out of this world. I found it hard to cope. I did have a few friends that were supportive but for me it was just hard. I moved house a couple of times. The first house I lived in was fine but my housemates turned out to be very annoying so I moved to another one and then months later when that tenancy ended, I then moved in with my friend Charl

It was cool living with Charl, we had a few ups and downs but when it comes with living with someone but she was a really cool housemate. Anyway, she had to leave Bristol to move to London so I was alone in the flat. I had the option of leaving but I was approached by some guy to let some Nigerians like me move in and share. That was one of the biggest mistakes of my life amongst other mistakes. You see, as a newbie in England you are warned not to mix with Nigerians by Nigerians.

And I tell you, Nigerians in Nigeria, though not perfect are better that the Nigerians abroad. I am not generalising, but I rather hang out in a morgue than with some Nigerians here.
Well what happened? They moved in and didn’t pay the bills and yours truly was left with all the debt. It took me one year to clear but I did it. The bills ranged from water, light, rental, gas and electricity. I was stuck! Tragic!
What did I do? Well instead of telling my family about my “incident” I decided to work a lot more. Not like I wasn’t working before, I did a little stint at a retail store which I hated, I also worked for the Royal mail, there were other part time jobs I did once in a while… nothing major.

At the time I was left with all that debt, I had no job. I was depressed, down and out. School was giving me a headache, I missed home.  To sum it up, I was miserable. Then I got lucky and I had this Caribbean friend who got me a cleaning job.

It was not easy; I had to clean four floors of a primary/secondary school including a basement. I worked there for a few weeks and luckily I got a job a case officer/support worker, working in a hostel with victims of domestic abuse. It was a nice job because I got to witness what abuse could do to a person. I did learn a lot that I would share in good time long and short of it. I will never forget the women I met there and something inside me hopes that they have found the strength to live. It sort of shaped me as a woman.

So, every time my mum will call, I would act like it was all okay. You see, I am really proud; I hate to ask so I thought. Well, people are working so why don’t I just work.  I managed to pay off most of the debt. Which was good, the bad news was that I got fired from that Job after a few months… Ouch!

You see, while working as a support worker I got a new place and moved in with another Nigerian. What pisses me off the most was after my experience with those Nigerians, I didn’t think it would do any harm because I was trusting and I felt, why paint my people with the same paint.  It was when my bank called me to tell me that my card was being used and on investigation it turned out that my housemate was keeping himself busy with my money. Then I knew that it was time to stop living with my people,  It wasn’t worth it, besides if I needed to fly my flag there were other ways to do it. He also left me with bills to pay! The only consolation was it wasn’t as bad as the first ones.

It’s not like I have this fantastic life story. But you see going through so many things made me who I am today.  I learnt a lot of things and I am glad for one lesson England taught me. “No one owes you anything”!  I also found that you can be deep in poo and there will be people to push you deeper!

When I wake up in the morning, just go look at the mirror and I smile and I tell myself its ok to enjoy life after all the stress. Then I do a little booty shaking dance! I love my flat!

Warden actually said something to me a few months ago that really touched me,  He talked about the fact that I did everything by myself to get where I am today. Believe me I did. I have struggled, cried, fought to be here. I have lost friends, made friends but I am here because I pushed myself. Because I didn’t let anyone break me.

It’s been 6 years in London. I have loved it! I do miss home but my heart is here for now because I am living. Because when I was growing up I always told myself I would be somewhere else where I could do what I wanted. I have developed a love for travel and I indulge when I can.

Through it all I am thankful. I am thankful for the people I met … I can’t thank my friends enough for all their support and it’s just so beautiful when you finally get somewhere and dare to ask for more… I still have bad days but I am hopeful it gets better.

My family have been the biggest support ever! They are my life

My story is my Freedom Dance….

http://ebonyexcite..com/

Very interesting, makes loads of sense.

iz2much:
what do u mean by that? young man!

Ask your Igbo friend.

Basildon1:
This has to be one of the most popular topics on NL! LOL.

The truth is that Uk is not Nigeria, things work differently (unlike Nigeria where you pay rent for 2 years in one go) It shocks people new to the system that they are suddenly have to adapt. If you cant afford your own place, then be ready to be useful in any house that accomodates u.

The family friend i first stayed with used to complain that i over-ironed my shirts and it would affect her bill (it was that bad). I had to mop the whole house before going to work every morning (OR she picks up the fone and complain to everyone back home!). I got used to eating rice and stew without beef to avoid hearing how the price of beef keeps rising.

But i did what i had to do till i could afford my own place cos i APPRECIATED the favour and I still do!!

nice line there.

bullet G:
@SIENA
Mind you, the topic is not WHY DO PPL WE HELP NOT SHOW APPRECIATION!, it is why we dont like helping each other in abroad, it is very rare 4 you to accommodate someone and the person will just sit at home without trying to help out in any way he can, but the problem is dont take advantage simply bcuz your helping someone, dont kill him or turn him to your house maid because he is staying with u!, since my 6years here, i have learnt that abroad is not about who came 1st, i have seen some ppl making it in less than 3yrs of being here and this same ppl were once homeless when the came newly! help if u can and dont if u cant! but dont take undue advantage!!

It goes both ways, you can't talk about 'help' without relating it to appreciation no matter how little or big its. Do not abuse the hospitality and next time you complain why Nigerians don't help each other abroad.

iz2much:
I had once been in this situation to woresn the whole thing i pay the dude that helped me £100 for a month. and yet he bosses me around like an erran boy. this dude is right. its common among the ibos. they cant help you but they needed you to help them. f, u, c, k them no apologies. but my best friend here is an igbo cool dude without their silly mentality, yoruba too get their own. as i said no apologies

What a waste of space.

bullet G:
@justwise,  your turning the point around, i can understand what the op means,  generally Nigerians abroad dont help themselves!, i have been in Europe for 6years now and i will say what the guy is saying is true! we dont like helping ourselves!, no one will even give u 5euro without wanting something in return! My point here is if you want to help someone, dont do it bcus you want to take advantage of the person, do it buz u really want to help and dont expect anything in return, you will never know? the same guy u helped might turn out to be the person who will help u tomorrow.
Europe or will i say abroad have always been YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!

I'm not turning anything around, Nigerians abroad don't have joint account where everybody who pays in is entitled to withdraw, if somebody helps you then show some appreciation, if you don't then you ''might'' stop that person from rendering help to another Nigerian next time. . . hence the issue of: Nigerians abroad don't help each other''

People who refuses to help might have treated badly by the previous person they helped.

tope3x:
@justwise or what do u call yourself, u better pray to get to the level of those you call yahoo boy, and stop hating, dont get jelouse of their success from wisdom.They are doing it, go and start browsing and start yahooing also, that is your own problem. Leave those boys alone, and make your complain to your government who steals Billions in a day. Get A LIFE MAN

I can never be jealous of a criminal who will die a miserable death, they are the scum of the earth.

lovejo:
Bro.
Is your laptop clean and do you have valid visa.

I guess if your lappy got some dodgy stuff even if its deleted then. . . you have alot to be afraid of.

usewisdom:
You have nothing to use as an excuse justwise. You did not know this woman. Do u know the amount she has borrowed from him alone? so whats the different if my friend even rent a house within that period. [/b]U need to think b4 u write. Dont think u're always right in whatever u say. [b]Single mother that got free house from the govenrment, earning child benefits, unemployment benefit, back to school, plus weekly money for food. Y[/b]ou're the only person in support of this woman. Who knows maybe thats how u treat your fellow nigerians in time of trouble. We get to know that everybody knows this woman, [b]all she does with those money is to carry different men, buy cloths, shoes, bags, party today party tomorrow. Iya isale-eko. Was it not untill my friend got there we discorvered this but have no choice than to manage it. So, why are u backing up who u dont know

My first question on this forum regarding this was ''Why we nigerians dont help ourself, period. And if u cant answer, then its better u remain silent and allow others to reason reasonably.

Why did your friend not rent a room with that money? Whatever the woman does with her benefit money is not you and your friends business, she is claiming what she is entitled to, she is a single mother and have the right to date or sleep with whoever she wants, its her life and got nothing to do with you and your nosey friends.

If it bothers you and your friend then next time your friend becomes homeless accommodate him and keep your nose out of single mother's business.

The reason why Nigerians abroad don't help each other is because of ungrateful people like you and your friend.

pespes:
thanks a lot , very grateful

Don't forget to add those documents used during the first application, things like marriage certificate, family pictures, bank statement etc

koghuma:
@justwise whats your yahoo IM id

i use Hotmail.

usewisdom:
Yes, to start with https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-503440.0.html
I have more if u want.
And lastly, the truth is we all came from thesame country, and so there is no harm or crime in it if we help our brother or sister in time of such prob, I've accommodated someone in London 8 years ago for good 6 month, and another about 5 years ago, i dont need to mention names, and till now they appreciate me and respect me personaly, i never ask them to do this or do that or ask them a penny or expect anything from them in reward. Never, and i will never do that. And non of them has ever incovinent me. We lived like family.

So, THIS IS THE BITTER TRUTH. Lets all say the truth, even the bible says ''say the truth and the truth shall save u.
I'm still finding it very difficult to believe that its you justwise can said all this out in support of the woman

My posts and many others were cleared in that thread then by the Mod, so there is nothing there to read.

usewisdom quote the bible to your ungrateful friend, the single mother living on benefit volunteered to accommodate your friend who works and your friend could not show any form of appreciation. . . . topup gas/electricity they all use, walk her kids to school (if he is free) or tidy-up the house without been told.
Those are simple things any bible quoting Christian will do without consulting God.

The lady probably got fed up and started acting up just to get rid of your friend who does absolutely nothing for her other than moaning, for the fact that we are all Nigerians does not mean we should abuse the hospitality rendered to us.