Scholar212: In response to Justwise post on WhatsApp groups. Truth is you can't do date search hunt on Nairaland that is the truth, slots get filled up in 30 secs, the day I secured a slot for interview, it literally took 30 secs for the three slots to be filled up. Whatsapp date hunt group usually have time allocated to all members to check their CGI portal and update the group from morning till night. Anyone hoping to get a date by checking if someone post on Nairaland will be hours late. I understand your own point as unnecessary whatsapp group distracts the thread from it's focus but for date hunt sadly it cannot be viably done here. Maybe a Nairaland date hunt group can be created and moderated.
You can 100%, the same way people post available date in whatsapp group is the same way anyone can drop it here, its the same first come, first serve system, the date is open to anyone in-need of it, so whatsapp group will not reserve a date for you, it will be gone if you are not quick enough to click.
That said. Nobody needs a whatsapp group to be able to get a date, all you need is to spend time on that website refreshing until you get one.
People who turned this date thing into business do exactly that, they spend time on that website waiting for date to be available.
People are quick to bring up the idea of whatsapp group or drop a link are mostly motivated by financial gain.
baba05: Please don’t get me wrong, the additional funds was from my sponsor(brother) and since I couldn’t use his account directly, the lien was placed on my account to ensure the money is safe
That is just wrong, if your elder brother wants to contribute some money towards your education then move the whole money into your account. Putting a lien in that account shows that you don't have complete control of that money and it will not be available for your use in the UK
Should be especially interesting for those of you who support Reform/Trump, and a reminder about what the core of those movements really represent and think of you.
You need to read what they think of Amber Rose after she addressed the RNC convention, i mean Amber Rose speaking on republican convention shows what a joke that political party is. Amber Rose is the opposite of everything republican party stands.
They thought she identifies with black community hence the invitation but they never did any research about that porn star before inviting her
mayford: You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm just as entitled to mine as you are to yours! So don't try to impose whatever on me.
Why are you so bothered anyway? If you also care so much about helping people and not being unnecessarily antagonistic, you should join in lending a helping hand here. At the very least, I did my part in answering pertinent questions on here to the best of my ability.
And obviously, you missed the part where I mentioned how quickly appointment slots get filled. Posting available dates here to people who are not even online at the time is defeating! You should rather see reason instead of being headlong focused on rebuttal, missing the point.
And validates my response above. I'm not even an admin of the group and I was not and I'm not now seeking to populate the group. The OP asked for help for a date search group and I sent an email with the link, same way someone here sent me the link and I was able to book an appointment date early. It's because I posted the notification, that's the cause of all these. If I didn't post it, you wouldn't have known. Again, no rule was violated.
As a leader, if you can't take criticisms whether constructive or otherwise, then you're not fit for that position!
And I don't care if you have an irrelevant discontent with my criticism. I believe my critique is well placed and valid. I don't know you, neither do you. Coming here to act like you're the alpha and omega is just a nonsensical attitude. There's more to life than having some obligation on nairaland.
You are just starting, you are not even close to what i have done in this thread and many others for more than 12yrs, you are a learner.
Don't even attempt to compare your 2yrs of contribution here to my 12yrs + i have run this.
This is my last comment regarding this issue with you, i will moderate your post from now on.
NaijaVietnamese: How can someone earning over 2 million naira monthly with free accommodation & free utilities be earning peanuts
There is something called cost/benefit analysis. Someone that spent less than 4 million to travel to Vietnam and still earn a lifetime professional certificate with it, is better than someone who spent 18 million to go to Europe or Canada.
Here is the breakdown; Vietnam; 1. You recover your total expenses in two months of working. 2. You work professionally. 3. You live the life of a middle class, above the income of the majority of citizens. 4. You have the opportunity of doing side hustles in exportation.
Europe/Canada; 1. It takes you many months if not years to recover your expenses. 2. You’re likely to end up with shitty jobs such as cleaners, care givers or security guards etc. 3. You have to juggle between jobs with extreme stress so you can pay for high cost of living. 4. You will be among the lowest income earners & live very basic lifestyles.
Lastly, school principals are not among the lowest of the low in Nigeria, they’re supposed to be middle class. Why should I compare with bank managers that have worked for many years and spent huge sums of money along the line? Against someone that spent 4 million and was only starting a new career? Nevertheless, a teacher in Vietnam can also compare with them eventually if they’re focused in maximizing their side hustles by continually scaling up.
This is just baseless generalisation, have you lived in any European country and experience this?
mayford: The link was never shared here. I only notified them via the post on here and my message specifically read "check your email". So what's the point of having the email contact functionality on this platform anyway? Communications would have still happened via email without anyone's notice as anyone can email anyone here. Or is it because I did the courtesy of mentioning it via the post? I'd take a back seat on that one.
We all can agree that the goal is "Date Search" and WhatsApp provides quick notifications for when dates are available for applicants to go book their appointments on a timely note. Many people here including myself have benefited from that group when it comes to interview dates and snap updates by others.
No doubt this platform serves its purpose but so does a WhatsApp group for specifically "Date Search". We cannot do "date-searching" here, it'll be almost defeating the purpose. We're talking about timeliness! And appointment slots get filled up fast!!
They asked a legitimate question to which I responded without breaking any rule and I consider it personally disrespectful the action that followed.
Your opinion is that WhatsApp group is selfish but I vehemently disagree with you. Far more people share quicker dates on there than on here. How many times has anyone posted about availability of dates on here since the last 4 weeks? Yet, people are booking appointments because selfless applicants like themselves are helping each other.
I really hate to write long epistles on inconsequential stuff as I've gone past the stage of tantrums.
I'd expect a better excuse for the exaggerated censorship not this!
No amount of lengthy episode will change my stand on this, WhatsApp group is very self idea as its only available to few number of people , open forum like this serves everyone both registered an non-registered individuals visiting this forum.
If you are so concerned about helping people to get a date what stops you from notifying people here when date is available?
If you can't share it openly here then well and good but don't use this thread to feed the whatsapp group.
mayford: Exactly what I said! Despite trying to help on here, I'm supposedly viewed by a moderator as an 'agent' and my post censored, for what reason? Simply because I sent to the person who asked, a legitimate link to a real group for date search and notified them as such through the post.
If they thought the group was a fictitious one or that I tried to extort them, I'm pretty sure they'd have made their comment on here without delay. Why being selective on which post to redact as tho they're actively on my case for the slightest mistake?! And what's the point even trying to help if unnecessary scrutiny is the priority? The excessive censorship is exaggerated.
I'll sit this one out, because it's obviously difficult for them to know who's real or not and efforts are not even appreciated. If over censoring becomes the order of the day, then I doubt people would be willing to help even when they have the answers (because their post may be deleted).
I do hope the moderators are taking note.
I see they deleted even the original post! They can as well delete this post or even get me off the space because constructive criticism isn't welcome. I thought we celebrated FREE SPEECH!!
Ok let me just say this to you directly...sharing of WhatsApp group link here for whatever reason is not allowed. there is Nothing legitimate that can not be shared here, so there is no need for WhatsApp group.
Whats App group is a selfish idea and self -serving
Zahra29: And burning a bus and throwing stones at the police is due process? I very much doubt that the rioters know or care what due process is. In fact it is more likely that the majority do not know the family involved or the full facts of the case, and just saw an opportunity to create chaos and attack the authorities.
That area of Leeds is always a flashpoint, i used to work in business centre as a student close to where the riot happened, fighting and killing is common in that area, in that business centre we have CCTV camera positioned around the building and car park and police was always coming to view camera to collect evidence, sometimes they will take up a room with a good view so as to collect intel.
Definitely not a good area to live or do business, run down houses, drug dealing very rampant, police siren almost every day etc
mayford: Until the moderators of this space can differentiate between genuine help and agents trying to extort, I don't see how I can share any link to a genuine group either here or via email contact, because they end up censoring the post. So please look elsewhere.
Segunagagu: I don't think this is okay. Please can you remove this remove this. Do you have any other ulterior motive?? Na so E dey start. Anyone that has joined this already is doing so at his or her own risk.
Please moderator take note. I was going to do this m but I won't be doing that anymore. Thanks.
Hwy9: Thanks for this. Is there any issue with me spreading my payments across 12 months as against 10 months communicated in annual statements sent to me before April 2024. Is this enough ground for additional liability being recorded for me?
No as long as that was agreed and you have been making payment.
Evidence of monthly payment get you out of jail here, so pay them a visit first before the court date.
Hwy9: No offense but are you sure what you got is actually a court summons and not a letter containing a threat of a summons?
In any case, a call would likely either sort things out or make the issue a lot clearer at least.*******************************************************
The letter stated that I should appear in court in August, a payment plan has been communicated which further states that a liability order will be applied for by the council. Or I should pay all the outstanding amount due to avoid a liability order.
I have called them, requested for a call, raised inquiry form for a call but no response. Just a mail this afternoon.
Also worth noting is that, the last letter from the council showed that they omitted one of my payments in their analysis.
Printout all your payment and pay them a visit to sort this out
oselokak: Hallelujah! We are finally joining issues.
Material Representation: The UKVI laws (which someone screenshot and posted) asked for 1. A bank statement of 28days. 2. To be submitted within 31 days of the 28 days.
That is the information submitted. Proof that I have XYZ amount on let’s say 28/2/2024. That is what the bank is asked to verify. The veracity or correctness of said statement.
Can the bank pry into my statement afterwards? Please let me quote verbatim the CBN rules of Customer’s Bill of Rights and Duties ( a quick search on google can direct your footsteps)
account details by the bank as well as intrusion into your account by third party. In other words, your bank must not divulge your account information to a third party; the bank must also protect your information from unauthorised access by a third party.
There are, however, exceptions to this right as follows:
1. Where the bank is required by law to make disclosure; and 2. Where the customer consents to the disclosure. In 1. These are situations of fraud other other issues where a court issues an order after hearing the suit 2. A customer consents only to the extent of the statement submitted not forever and ever . If it were so , then any embassy can arbitrarily ask for updates of balances in perpetuity or even prior to the date. A customer’s consent is to the details he has submitted and for nothing else. Hence the reason for the request for reprints of statements after submission.
A misrepresentation would occur when one falsifies the information he submitted. If peradventure I am issues with a visa or during the pendency of the application I need to use to touch 5k from the money to purchase airtime And then repay for school fee payment, would that be misrepresentation? Do you see how that sounds?
I am well aware that Nigerians look for corners and shortcuts to circumvent the law and it would sound easier to just throw the baby of the facts out with the bath water, but that does not in any way change the facts or the law. This is not meant as a manual to teach any body unscrupulous practices but simply to correct a misinformation.
If you read my earlier posts, I have said it IT IS SAFER TO LEAVE FUNDS PENDING THE APPLICATION because a visa will be refused if the visa officer is unsatisfied that the funds to support the education is unavailable if a reprint is asked for. But the declaration that a 10 year ban follows withdrawal of funds is a fallacy and untrue. Get the distinction so that you may be able to advice people better in the future
Yes.
1. airline ticket is NOT part of your maintenance money
2. Your maintenance money is to be used in the UK, the calculation is based on your monthly expenditure in the UK, so when you take out some in Nigeria AFTER submitting your visa application you have misrepresented your true financial condition.
3. UKiv is not aware that you have touched that money after submitting your application.
So you have lied about the total amount avaliable in that bank account.
heykims: Mr moderator, don't threaten me with a ban. I just answered a simple question. Someone asked if he can submit a POF statement days after it's maturity and I answered YES. The answer is YES regardless of what all u guys are saying. For example, u can submit a bank statement of June 1 to June 29 for the visa application today July 15. It's surprising u guys can't interpret a simple rule boldly stated on the UKVI website even with an example. And I never told the young man to remove his POF.
Please don't threaten me with a ban Mr moderator, read and comprehend. Attached again is what's stated on the UKVI website.
Lets wait and see when you or any other person repeat the same thing again.
toughest007: Baba, you or anyone isn't going to slap me if I am. But sadly, I'm not. I'd rather be objective and unbiased than otherwise. FYI, I went through your vox article, it's all chaff and reeking with hate!
On the other hand, you are truly and deeply a Trump hater, stemming from consuming bias narratives! Totally pathetic the way you are so fixated and grossly determined to hate.
His peers have assainated seating presidents of other sovereign nations, sponsored internal strifes and genocide, bombed indiscriminately etc, but it's petty talks within small neighborhoods that matter to you. Grow up mate!
Again, I don't read an article and crucify a person. Go back and read where I had already told you so. Why is this difficult for you to grasp?
Why are you ashamed to admit that you are Trump bootlicker? My opinion on him is out in the open.
You are afraid of facts hence the reason you refused to go through his dirty laundry.
The guy is not only a racist he is a crook, he is also a sex pest.
Let’s hope that what happened few days ago will be a wake up call for him and all his enablers
oselokak: My dear. I am a lawyer . Never have, never will attempt to tell anyone to flaunt the rules I have in no way attempted to mislead anyone. The threat of a ban is really not going to change the facts.
Refer to the rules Interpret it . That is logic and facts. I have asked anyone here with a contrary view to post the applicable rules.
Can you for once , stop siding with what you believe and consider for once that you may need to unlearn and relearn some stuff in life? I notice all you did was threaten me with a ban. Feel free to do that . It is not the end of the world love. Some of us actually have real lives IRL.
Kindly attack the substantive issue with evidence (from the UKVI rules or any official site not here say of from questionable email sources) Any other thing is you just being Nigerian and using your power to silence any contrary view.
For the avoidance of doubt , the embassy may ask for a re print , in which case it is advisable to leave the funds and have it ready to avoid the explanation of why. We have seen this happen on so many occasions.
Abegi why I dey even bother my life ? Let the ones that have accused others of not looking into a book , look into the bloody book and use their brains
lawyer or not that is not what i'm all about.
Material misrepresentation carries 10yrs ban, when you claimed to have the money in your bank account but in reality you have removed the money that is misrepresentation.
The embassy has the right to verify any document you submitted because you signed the disclaimer authorising them to do that.
Every single yr we argue this here and people like you will turn up to encourage fraud with all sorts of false claim.
toughest007: FYI, I don't base my opinion on reading [b]an article.[/b]
I thought we were talking about Trump. Which other side(s) are we also talking about?
Of course you ain't a Trump supporter, which is exactly why you'd read a single petty news source and crucify a personality without a balanced view.
You are truly a Trumper, you are just denying it as many do, how can you argue about an article you did not read? Trump supporters never deal with facts, they take their news from Trump, Fox news and OAN.
As an objective never-Trumper i was expecting you to point out anything in that article that is not true.
Nothing is true unless its written by Trump friendly media outlet.
Trump Has Incited Violence for Years even before J6, prove me wrong with material fact
toughest007: Now, your emotions have kicked in! So you are replying emotionally.
I'm never a Trump supporter and would never be. That won't make me less objective about him.
Trump's history of encouraging violence as an individual or as POTUS? Don't you find it quite petty and hypocritical to say he encourages violence, while downplaying what Biden is doing in Ukraine and what others have done elsewhere?
Be objective mate, stop consuming info from main stream media!
Can you dispute anything in that article? You keep going on about emotion and emotionless, fact-check that article and tell me where they got it wrong.
You can’t be objective when you’re arguing one sided.
It doesn’t matter whether he encourages violence as individual or as POTUS
toughest007: Justwise, you need to be surprised since I refuse to consume skewed narratives from anti-Trump blogs.
Go out of your ways to research personalities and don't always build your opinion about certain discuss on petty summaries. Haba!!!
I know you will say this , this is typical of trump supporters, if you are not for Trump then it’s fake news, nothing written against Trump is true but anything in his favour is the gospel truth.
That article outlines Trump’s history of encouraging violence.
missjekyll: I believe the police report said he was hit by flying glass. Assault rifles cause damage not just by percussion but also by cavitation. He wouldnt have anything resembling an ear if he had been hit.
I ask again "will he be supporting the ban on assault rifles?"
missjekyll: He was republican.He was only 20 therefore he was 12 in 2016. All he has ever known is MAGA chaos.
Thoughts and prayers to Trump and his family. Will he be supporting gun control henceforth?
Also why did he pop back to raise a fist? Presenting a lovely target for a headshot?who does that? Not very smart 😕 #baffling
I’m waiting to hear what he will say in the next rally next week, this election is not decided yet , polls will not give Trump much points despite this shooting
Zahra29: Apparently he donated to Biden's campaign...I'm sure more details will be revealed leaked about his political leanings prior to the shooting.
It's crazy how close Trump came to being killed, and sad that a civilian was a casualty. This will only reinforce his hero/saviour/ "chosen one" image to his followers.
The memes have started already. They'll definitely be trying to pin this on the Dems.
Yes I read in daily mail that he donated to Biden campaign at some point.
Just wondering though how that ear is still standing after being hit by bullet.
Zahra29: The shooter at Trump's rally has just made it even more likely that Trump is going to be the next US president. And now AP is reporting that the shooter has been killed/ neutralised.
Smh...you don't defeat far right rhetoric with violence- you're just playing into their hands.
Zahra29: The shooter at Trump's rally has just made it even more likely that Trump is going to be the next US president. And now AP is reporting that the shooter has been killed/ neutralised.
Smh...you don't defeat far right rhetoric with violence- you're just playing into their hands.
I have to agree with you on that, the shooter just made the whole thing even more difficult for Biden.
Democrat will be blamed for his especially as the shooter was killed.
All that said. I'm happy for Trump and other republicans gun loving people. Trump is having a test of situation he created, he loves and encourages violence on others while his lapdogs do the dirty job. The dude is tasting the food he cooked.
Travel › Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 18 by justwise(mod): 5:34pm On Jul 20, 2024
