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Lexusgs430:
Goke7 Goke7 Goke7........ How many times did I call you.......

Stop seeing things, that doesn't exist...... Or else, I would buy you miracle soap to wash your sins away + miracle water to douse your tension....... 😂💦😜🤣

Na lie , that miracle soap is as fake as papa J, VDM don try the soap with some disabled people and nothing happen

Goke7:
I think you were away then but you need to see how Oga Lexus was dragged like Shege on this thread because of the rent money is a dead money issue, it took days before people came to his rescue even missjekyll has been dragged for seeing things differently too and I can't remember anyone coming to her defence, unless we are beginning to have different rules here for other people—just an observation.

lol dragging Oga Lexus is like dragging VDM, e go come back stronger

Feel free to drag missjekyll, she is a politician, dragging is in line of her work lol

AgentXxx:
Zahra29

The main issue people are having with your comment which you seems not to grab is the timing of your arguments. It should come later when it is all calm and not at the moment when POC are living in fear being harmed or maimed.

If your family were in the position of harm during this riot, I believe you wouldn’t come here defending why they were being attacked.

An important aspect of emotional intelligence is timing.

I;m totally with you on this, i got no prob with Zahra's view on this but i have prob with the timing.

Let me also say this for a record, we need people that see things differently like Zahra and put it out without personal attack.

jedisco:
Thank you for this, I find it soul destroying when I see black folks take a guilty look when migration is discussed. Despite the fact that a miniscule number of Africans have ever left their abode, it's somehow made out that moving around is a privilege to us but a right to others

Like I said previously, the more I know about human history, the more unapologetic I become about migration. Reminds me of a chat I had with a white British folk at my workplace. Chap was trying to insinuate a grand plan to get people from Africa into the US. (I.e illegal migration). I told him that being British, he should more than everyone else know migration is as old as man. You don't like my presence, too bad, I don't care.

To Gerard who talked about deporting 2nd gen... like I asked, how far back do we go? Should Australia/U.S or Cad start deporting White folks back to Europe?

This post captured my thought about the two characters you mentioned, so no needed repeating it again.

Goodenoch:
But just to clear the air with regard to why I (I'm not speaking for anyone else) won't engage with Treadway or Gerard - it's simply because I consider them unfit to engage.

One of them a few pages ago was calling people here apes unprovoked. Nobody insulted him or anything. The other one manages to weave potshots at Muslims into every post. I made the decision not to engage either one for any reason since then.

I'm happy to debate and disagree however strongly but I'll not speak with people whose baseline is disrespect or bigotry and contribute to this place becoming an online beer parlor.

dupyshoo:
I hope he does.

Done.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy8497l7dx8t

lavida001:
I laugh at your own country. This are the things you lots say that pisses them off. You get British passport doesn’t make it your country. We all know who the natives are, you are just a British passport holder the indigenes know themselves.

It does 110% natives or not. Surely indigenes know themselves but they share equal right with black/ Asian British passport holder.

Sadiq Khan, has been the mayor of London since 9 May 2016. to be re -elected over and over again shows that those with your view are in the minority

What this racist thugs are doing is not different from what some tribes in Nigeria are doing during this #EndBadGovernance, many used the opportunity to call for Igbos to leave Lagos, even before this protest Igbos have faced harsh treatment in Lagos in particular, norther part is another story completely.

dupyshoo:
https://www.gbnews.com/news/riots-labour-councillor-suspended-cut-throats

This shows some far left can be very violent too. This councillor is not different from the Tory councillors wife. He too should be arrested for inciting violence.

Pretty sure he will be arrested before the end of today, he should be treated the same way those thugs are treated.

Zahra29:
It was actually online rumours that the killer was an asylum seeker that sparked the initial protests, but nevertheless...

I agree.

The UK is such a terrible, racist place.

1 million immigrants a year is far too small. They need to stop moaning and as reparations for colonisation, they ought to throw open the borders and welcome everyone who wants to come - via air, sea and land. No checks or controls should be necessary as all immigrants are good, honest and a positive contribution.

I know but why will you bother to check if the rumours is true or false? He is black so the rumour most be true.

seuncyrus:
Tim Scott got married two days ago
In an interview Friday with The Post and Courier, Scott said he prayed for a wife nearly every week for the last 30 years. But today he’s grateful to have met Noce exactly when he did. These guys will do anything to save face

pls don't make me laugh, he should come out...

Zahra29:
No I don't.

I believe the ONLY factor at play in the mind of white Brits is race/racism. No other issues or concerns whatsoever.

The average white Brit is fascist, anti-immigrant, not to mention lazy and benefit scrounging. The fact that protests/ riots (including others like Harehills) are taking place in areas known to be deprived/in need of levelling up, is purely coincidental.

But as soon as the police round up these far right thugs and put them in prison (hopefully very soon), Britain will return to a paradise - prosperous, safe, equal, harmonious and integrated communities everywhere from Teeside to Chelsea, noone on benefits, there'll be plenty of money to go around - we can spend even more on "asylum hotels" and open one in every town and city.

We won't even need Parliament much as there'll be no issues to discuss or solve. Instead we can all congregate at Dover and lorry ports to welcome the increasing number of migrants arriving by boat and lorry. Perhaps the BAME community can even sign up to house them like the Ukrainian refugees were housed.

You sarcastically saying the quiet part out loud, if Axel Rudakubana was a 17 years old white boy do you think the protest will happen?

The UK should be the last country on planet earth to moan about immigration, the UK approximately colonized 105 countries, killed, displaced and looted as they go.

Zahra29:
It's not your fault dear. It's Keir's - sleight of hand from him because when he spoke of smashing the gangs, he infact meant the Gangs of London.

Why would he want to dismantle the gangs that are ferrying over people to the UK via a legal and low carbon emission route?

Do you really believe that this protest is about poverty,, deprived towns, underfunded public services, cost of housing asylum seekers etc?

Zahra29:
[b]And what goes to the local community for the public services needed to cater for the new residents? [/b]I'm not saying asylum seekers should not be provided for, but let's be reasonable - they are physical beings, not spirits, and they require access to hospitals, schools, GPs, probably mental health services, employment and L & D services for those eligible to work and more. Is the government making these funds available to the council or is it only the hotel owners that are cashing out?

Govt can save money by getting able bodied off their lazy backside and into work, single mothers/fathers with more than two kids should start looking into family planning . Govt should stop getting involved or dragged into foreign wars by America.

Govt can spend on local communities even with the money spent on asylum.

ReesheesuKnack:
By your logic, it means circa 3billion pounds on hotel bills is bang for buck?

Can you provide any official source to support that claim?

Zahra29:
💯

We should be able to have a broader, rational discourse about some of the underlying issues and general discontent felt even by those who are not protesting, without being accused of supporting the violence.

I made a similar post yesterday about the humongous cost of asylum hotels. It's staggering when one considers the daily cost running into millions, especially when you factor in that these hotels are strategically placed in areas which are already relatively deprived. Why are there no such hotels in Maidenhead (T Mays former constituency) or Yorkshire (Sunak's constituency) or other middle and upper class areas? Is the govt providing additional funding to areas like Tamworth and Rotherham to support GPs, hospitals, schools, law enforcement and other public services or are these communities expected to just make do somehow with hundreds/thousands of new residents when they are already underfunded as it is.

There's a reason why protests /riots are not taking place in leafy, suburban areas. Poverty/class/inequality is a big factor and this applies not only to these riots but also the Harehills riot last month in the Roma community, and other riots like the Croydon riots in 2011. What happened to the levelling up agenda to address the issues of social inequality, lack of opportunities and under investment in such towns?

I didn't support the Rwanda scheme but I agree that if Keir doesn't "smash the gangs" as promised and stop the boat crossings asap then the Rwanda scheme is going to end up looking like a silver bullet in comparison.

Interestingly Italy is about to roll out a similar scheme, but in Albania, and some other EU countries are looking to follow suit if it works:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-does-italys-migration-deal-with-albania-work-2024-06-04/

That money goes back into British economy, its not given to asylum seekers to send back home, its a contract given to British companies, hotels housing asylum seekers are owned by British people, they employ people to work in those hotels and asylum centres.

Zahra29:
Justwise, these protests/riots have been mainly directed at IlLEGAL IMMIGRATION. It's a difficult situation because I'm sure there are genuine asylum seekers, however a few issues that have been simmering in these communities are:

- the amount of money spent on asylum hotels. Several million a day, how many billions of pounds is that a year? Meanwhile pensioners are losing their winter allowances, schools are underfunded, no money for adult social care, £20bn black hole in govt finances etc.

- how come the asylum hotels are not being put up in middle class areas? Why not Clapham or Richmond or the nice parts in Manchester or Surrey? Why are they in deprived areas that are already struggling? With no added funding - GPs, hospitals, schools etc will be under even more pressure with hundreds of new residents /asylum seekers until it becomes a "Hunger Games" for public services. Politicians don't mind because they live in naice areas - just like in America - immigrants are welcome by the Dems as long as they are NIMBY (Not In My Backyard)

- there have been increasing reports of asylum seekers that have committed heinous crimes e.g. the recent acid attack in London, stabbings, grooming/raping of british girls etc. Women are now reporting that they are scared to go out at night in certain parts of their towns that used to be safe.

- there have been several terrorist attacks since 2005- the London tube attack, Manchester arena, the Lee Rigby killing, attempted suicide bombings on hospitals, cars being rammed into pedestrians in London etc etc carried out by men from a certain religion. There are fears that potential terrorists will be among those coming via boat and the government does not know who is coming into the country. It is also a big part reason for the anger against that religion being displayed in the protests.

- perceived "two tier policing"

These are a few of the issues that have been simmering and have tipped out into the open after the tragic Southport attack. Ireland has been staging protests for months now - they recently burned down 2 centres that had been earmarked to house asylum seekers.

Yes! yes!! and yes!!!, however, however Zahra29 how do you know who is legal or ilegal immigrant? These plonkers wouldn't know who is legal or illegal, we don't walk around with our immigration status on our foreheads, so anybody with a dark skin is a target.

All the issues you highlighted above are all valid points but that affect both black and white Brits, so my question is..why the selective outrage?

Why are they not protesting in Palace of Westminster, council offices, HomeOffice etc?

Zahra29:
And these ones will be dealt with by the law as well. Hopefully there will be arrests on all sides as there have also been attacks and mob violence from the MDF in places like Bolton.

My point is that the underlying issues will not go away - unless they are addressed by the government, it's only a matter of time before the next protest or something worse happens.

I hope you also realise that that there are many black and ethnic people who don't work and who rely on benefits - aka benefits scroungers. Even the immigrants who are able to claim benefits do so happily e.g. Poles and Bulgarians. Some have become experts in scamming the benefits system. Not sure why the term benefits scroungers is reserved solely for white Brits lol.

That will never happen, no govt has the resource or the means to eradicate poverty or immigration completely, we will always have people living below poverty level, moving in and out of poverty.

Immigration makes this country rich and prosperous, the middle and upper class can not do without immigrants, these work shy lazy bones are benefiting from immigrants, their carers, bus drivers, trian drivers, cleaners, uber drivers, delivery drivers, doctors etc are most likely immigrants who pay heavily into the system while these hate filled benefits scroungers stay home to claim

White Brits make a living out of benefit, they know benefit system far more than immigrants, yes immigrants claim benefit but nothing compare to white Brits

Zahra29:
And when black people (many on benefits) rioted, looted, vandalised and some killed in 2011, who/what was the cause of their "miserable condition"?

When the Romas (many on benefits) rioted and looted and attacked the police last month, who/what was the cause of their "miserable condition"?

Yes, race is absolutely a factor but the common denominator in all these violent protests is class/poverty/inequality.
Someone said that it's a fight between Poor white Vs Poor Brown instead of against the elite ruling class. You don't see the same riots and protests happening in middle class or affluent areas do you?

This is what the Home Secretary said today about the riots:

Lots of people have concerns and views about crime, about the NHS, about immigration, but they don’t pick up bricks and throw them at the police, they don’t try and set light to a hotel where people are known to be inside it, they don’t loot shops as a result," Cooper tells the BBC.

She adds that she supports peaceful protesters who want to raise their views - but says that's a "world away from the kind of "violence and thuggery" currently taking place.


Beyond the thuggery and violence, there is a silent majority - many at home not protesting, who are angry about the issues the Home Sec called out - NHS, immigration, rising crime, winter fuel payments being stripped from pensioners while millions are spent each day on asylum hotels etc. People who do not support the violence but agree with the underlying frustration of the protesters.

Just like in 2011, the issues are not magically going to go away by putting some people in jail (for 6 months🙄). These riots will be quelled but the government will have to address the root causes at some point, otherwise it's just a matter of time before something flares up again.

Yes call them even worst names if they engaged in violent protest, people protest for diffrerence reasons, this particular one is about race and started by racist white thugs.

You said: You don't see the same riots and protests happening in middle class or affluent areas do you?

No i don't see such in middle class areas because they focused their time and energy working, doing business to make even more money and grow to even upper class. Rather than blaming immigrants for everything, they should get off their lazy backside to get something doing, many in middle class areas are also immigrants, they did not come to this country with truck loads of money, they worked tirelessly to better their lives.

Yes i remembered what happened in 2011 , that one was started by black thugs and they were dealt with by the law.

Zahra29:
Yes I do.

Hopefully the riots will calm down in the next couple of days. Brits typically don't have the rioting stamina of the French or the Bangladeshi.

Farage hasn't actually commented on the riots as far as I'm aware. Tice on the other hand has been vocal on Twitter highlighting that there has been violence on both sides of the riots. Legally I don't think there's going to be much to stick on them because they haven't actually called on people to go out and fight and destroy property. People will be held accountable for their own actions. It's like blaming Labour or Corbyn for fomenting the 2011 riots in which several people actually died.

What is more concerning is the damage done to police trust, cohesion and community relations. The cities where the more violent protests are being staged e.g. Rotherham, Sunderland etc exposes the deep anger and tensions that have been brewing over many years fuelled by deprivation, rising crime, inequality and a feeling of abandonment by the government. Similar reasons for previous riots, and these issues will need to be addressed by the government sooner or later.

We hear this everytime protest like this is going on, its the same excuse, this protest is about race, each time a dark skin committed a crime these racist thugs used it as an excuse to attack immigrants, they assumed that Axel Rudakubana is illegal muslim immigrant, they attack mosques and hotels housing asylum seekers.

They are all happy to call Yamal Spanish special player, nobody worried about the fact that he is a son of immigrants, watch the Olympics and count the number of black athletes bagging in medals for different countries outside Africa.

These shameless lazy bone benefit scroungers blame immigrants for their own miserable condition

FreeSpirited:
Guys it seems I'm about to be scammed while trying to apply to a school
.
I saw one application site www.studyinpoland.biz

I followed their site, and their whatsap, and also communicated with them as instructed through email. I sent all my documents, passport no and preferred course.

Few days later they congratulate me that I am eligible for the course that I only have to pay 300Euro...to get the admission letter as per the norm to the institution they got for me.
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Unfortunately, the school which is Nicolas Copernicus Uni, seems to have a different school deadlines/calender from the one the site says after I researched .......and I couldn't see any other link on the internet that says that school offers Public health. Shay no be scam be this?

Then, I try to change University and course, yet I couldn't find the link to apply into school like Poznan life uni.....Abeg how do u guys apply . help before I'm scammed.......I saw www.educationpoland.pl but I'm scared it may be another scam

I need application link
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https://www.umk.pl/en/admissions/

Go through that link to see if your chosen course is there

FreeSpirited:
Guys it seems I'm about to be scammed while trying to apply to a school
.
I saw one application site www.studyinpoland.biz

I followed their site, and their whatsap, and also communicated with them as instructed through email. I sent all my documents, passport no and preferred course.

Few days later they congratulate me that I am eligible for the course that I only have to pay 300Euro...to get the admission letter as per the norm to the institution they got for me.
.
Unfortunately, the school which is Nicolas Copernicus Uni, seems to have a different school deadlines/calender from the one the site says after I researched .......and I couldn't see any other link on the internet that says that school offers Public health. Shay no be scam be this?

Then, I try to change University and course, yet I couldn't find the link to apply into school like Poznan life uni.....Abeg how do u guys apply . help before I'm scammed.......I saw www.educationpoland.pl but I'm scared it may be another scam

I need application link
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Why are you using fraudulent websites for admission application? You did not see their official website here? https://www.umk.pl/en/

If what you are looking for is not in the official website why do you think other website will have it?

Pentagon007:
Mods justwise DisGuy What can we do for Nigerians to start building apartments in the way we see in Europe?
Please move to front page.
Mynd44
Seun

In Nigeria we waste space a lot and we don't have strict urban planning, in many countries like the UK you can not build a house or do an extension in your house without getting a permission from your local council else it will be taken down.

Lexusgs430:
How do you expect Trump, to change his Trump - Card.....

That would simply silence his trumpet 🎺🎺🎺.......😂🎺😭🤣

His Ego, is simply what makes him Trump...... The only thing that could have silenced that trumpet, was if that guy attended all his gun lessons........😜😂

No I wasn’t expecting him to do anything different but I was wondering why he bothered to attend. Black job he meant unskilled jobs , low paying jobs etc because illegal workers goes for such jobs.
Fox News or OAN will not ask him such questions.

missjekyll:
I am very grateful to whoever advised him to go to this.
He lost the few black votes he had.
I m doubly sure now that he ll lose and I rest my case till November

Those first set of questions were perfectly legitimate questions but Trump could not help himself . I don’t know why his handlers allowed him to appear on that program, Trump got no regard for decency, I thought after the failed assassination attempt he will be more of a peacemaker but no he kept on doing what he knows how to do best.

Zahra29:
Mixed messages perhaps lol....but new data appears to show that working while sick actually costs the economy more than taking time off. So look after your health, know your company's policy on sick leave and take time off (with a sick note if necessary) if struggling with your physical or mental health.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/work-while-sick-cost-economy-b2588311.html

Really mixed messages, I attended a seminar yesterday on working wellbeing and the speaker presented a data that shows that sick leave cost the UK about 3million hours per month, honestly sometimes you don’t know what to believe.

RalphJean:
The dangers of a one side story.
MissJekyll here hasn’t bothered to watch the publicly available videos on the beating the police officers were subjected to by those thugs.

That police office was clearly dazed and befuddled and kicking was the least he could have done in that situation. It’s a miracle he did not discharge any firearms (if any).

There is no protection for the police in this country probably because they don't carry gun, we don't want the American style of policing but sometimes you are attempted to wish

missjekyll:
We disagree on this.

No worries.

missjekyll:
Treated by who? Kicking is the least? I do not fully understand your points... can you
explain please?

By the public especially the ethnic minority, i understnad that we have certian level of resentment towards the police because of their actions in the past but in general police are not getting a fair deal.

Yes that guy deserves more than just a kick on the head

missjekyll:
I was saying that at the moment that the man was kicked in the head and stamped on with jack boots, he was already prone and not resisting.

That was excessive force even deadly force and that's why the police officer was suspended .

Policing is an honorable profession especially in the UK where they police by consent. They ve taken a hit in recent years but are trying to build back up a reputation.
Videos showing unwarranted use of force only undermines that.

I have to disagree with on this, police in this country are treated worse than actual criminals with little or no respect. Kicking that guy on the head is the least I expected if you have watched previous videos.

The family of the ‘victims’ has put out a statement showing concerns for police officer.

Atturu:
After paying the deposit and doing all the necessary stuffs in Nigeria, can I be allowed to pay the rest of the school fees in the UK?

Yes if your school allows that but be definitely sure that you have the money and that you are not hoping to work to pay fees, rent and bills.

missjekyll:
What really is the deal with JD Vance? Why does he brag so much about having children and seek to demean the child free? Dude has never heard of hubris

Trump supporters, how far? Una de support this kain thing?

That nasty one? Only Trump can pick individual like him

AgentXxx:
Tbh, we haven’t decided yet but anyone whose finance would make the visa application easy and straightforward. kindly advise on the best method.

If you can sponsor the trip while he uses his business as tie to Nigeria.

Oemmy:
Please,can someone assist me with list of schools in the UK that accept £3,000 deposit and low tuition fees of about £15 and below for undergraduate courses

If you got no money to study in the UK then don't start what you can not finish.

Your next step now is to use untouchable loan to get a visa and travel to the UK with money