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DeeTus:
Yes because certificates are not classified illegal exhibits unless if they are fake.

Second, on a tourist visa, she has the human rights to sight-see and go to a school, get admission with her credentials and return home to apply for an F1 visa.


Aside what Bigfrancis said, let me tell you the honest truth, she may not get a non-immigrant visa anymore due to this record and it really sucks.

No VO would be at ease to approve her non-immigrant visa probably out of "crowded intent". Believe me because her intent to return home after an intended trip has been jeopardized.

Again false, this got nothing to do with her human right especially as a non- U.S citizen. All these things you are saying is just theory, practically you got no chance in hell.

DeeTus:
Justwise, you may not understand. We are talking about tricky stuff that could go 50-50.

Nothing tricky here, you don't have any right to be allowed into U.S. They reserve the right to send you back at any point and you have no case in court. Let's not give people false hope here.

DARKLIGHT:
Oga Justwise, so there is no case?

Zero case!!

DeeTus:
I know but there's punishment for abuse of human rights.

Also, there's punishment for unlawful deportation. I wish it was me or my relative that was deported this way, then it's time to prove to the world why it's good to be smart.

I fear nobody!!

do we take that as a joke?

DeeTus:
Please give me this case, I have a very competent Lawyer. Technically, she's right to take her certificates, as someone on tourist visa can go to a school for a sight-seeing, in order to return and study there with an F1.

You just want to waste her money and time, she has no case and visa is not a right but a privilege.

@stanlovic

If you can't afford to study in Australia wait until you have the money, please don't come here asking for help on how to get bank statement.

erictack203:
@stanlovic.

This section should not be used to encourage or facilitate any fraudulent activity.

I have zero tolerance for such activity.

Portsmouth86:
Hi Justwise, here is my list so far, all filed in date order

Financial:
Bank statements (will be 12 months) which cross reference my payslips
Payslips (12 months)
P60's for 2014 & 2015
Letter from Employer- Employer giving this to me closer to application date
Contract of employment, and letter that increased my salary in May 2015

Accommodation:
Tenancy agreement
Letter from landlady- will get this closer to application submission

Council tax statement (inc 25% discount i currently receive)
Electricity bill
water bills x2
TV license
BT telephone bill

Evidence of my Status:
Certified copy of my UK birth certificate
Certified copy of my UK passport

Relationship
Virgin Atlantic Frequent flyer statement shows my flights from London to Lagos (2 x returns Oct 2014 & March 2015)
marriage certificate
Rebtel telephone records which are itemised (from 10th July 2014 to present) (this is the only way we really communicate as I call him everyday without fail for 1 hour and use whatsapp as an IM service.
Photos, many including our wedding and time together and with family.

This is it at the moment, from me anyway as his spouse, My husband will need to supply more I believe, could you please advise, when I need to send docs to Sheffield would my husband also need to submit photos too with his application? I have our marriage certificate here in the UK with me since i needed it to update my name on my particulars.

Can photos be printed onto paper, as I am reluctant to send these as they are precious to have lost

My husband is planning to apply end of October, so I will be adding to the above docs.

Sorry for the length, and thank you in advance

Kind Regards

Karen

Your list is good.
1.Are you going to printout the whatsapp call log?

2. Do you send money or gift to him from time to time?

Regarding the picture question...submitting picture printed into a paper is not a good idea because dated picture in its original state is preferred.

You will send the documents to Sheffield after your husband's application.

OGreene:
Justwise, you are yet to respond to my mail.

Is It ok to have 2 T-bills running in one account in one Bank? Coz I hv to put the 2 certificates for them and another cert for the investment running in Bank B making it 3 certificates in all

If that is allowed within the banking system then i don't see the problem as its nothing illegal.

zaenab:
We intend staying for 10 days

You can give it ago if your daddy can comfortably afford it and you can present evidence to support that, you also need to submit your own bank statement/payslip and employment evidence then explain why your daddy is sponsoring you and your kid.

kunle16:
Hi justwise

One can apply outside the UK . Please how do I pay for the Nhs health surcharge. Thanks

You will get that info on their website or the application page

Team16:
He had his 1st year cost defrayed by his brother, hustled for the second year to pay up, he has payed his brother back n got himself a new ride. The guy hustling mind tight. I asked him how he's doing it but he refused to let me in yet that when I land, he'll put me through. His course is oil n gas related though. Sharp guy from medical physiology here in naija to one tight oil n gas course I can't remember the name of the course. I'll ask him n update you later.

SMH.

I really feel sorry for some people who read some half baked truth here and swallowed it.

Motun123:
thanks for your response justwise. please hoe do i explain to them that my fiance did not invite me the last time? considering the fact that i told them i did not know anyone in uk when i applied last year. i need to know how this can be explained to them. I have printed out my payslip like i did last year when i applied. explain how i did not tell them last year i knew my fiance. please I sent you a DM yesterday as well, kindly respond. thank you

That depends on when you started dating or when the relationship got serious

@kobe79


Please avoid derailing this thread.

Team16:
Brother, God bless you for this input. I have read all the arguement and was reluctant to contribute but I think I'll do that now. Please all concerned housemates, Do not Do not, Do not discourage anybody in whatever he/she has set out to achieve in life. We should be careful with the kind of advice we dish out here cos believe you me, you don't know who's reading silently n the impact your advice is having on them. If certain questions are thrown to the house for example the present discussed issue, IMO refer the person to his faith n belief, like it's been said if it's in your heart, pray about it, believe n it will come to your hands. Now back to the matter, some of my men that left this country 2yrs back with few months rent n 1 term tuition are bubbling in canny now doing very okay, the other one just finished paying up the loan he took from his brother who sponsored him to maple land n has bought his car. If he has listened to this kind of conversation n probably his morale was doused by what people had said, he would still be in this scotch sun of Nigeria regretting his ass n complaining, but i loved his spirit he said to me guy am processing my visa to canada n amongst all our friends you are the only one am confiding in, so keep it to yourself i dont need your advice and i dont want anyone to discourage me, this is my dream n I must achieve it. My guy's in d house if after suffering in this country (to those who has suffered o am not referring to those who had diamond spoon in their mouth when they are born) and you find yourself in canada n you are complaining that it's hard n it's impossible, nwanne am still looking for that word in the dictionary to qualify you o (no offense) but get my point n advice, if you are sleeping on a 100 inches Vita or mouka foam in naija, please the day your plane touches down on that land, the first thing to buy is UTE (MAT) cos sleep has gone. Guys are making it over there, paying their bills, does western union bimonthly and you are here telling me it's not possible. Nnaa nwanne enter ekenedilichukwu or young come house cos that thing from village. If you are igbo n you get to maple land n you are making or supporting this issue bros please go n sell your foam get mat cos it's not sleeping time, it's called hustling time. Remember western union, guys are not playing with it across the bridge na sure thing, men ga agba beer nu (men will drink beer 4 ur head now). My own input. My tinklee advice. It's not compulsory you adhere to it. Like i will always say n like I said when my moniker was attacked when i joined. Whatever it is you want in life, let it be done to you according to your faith. Faith works, if you believe it then you can achieve it.

So that means he went with money then?

mirenda:
Yes directly into my account. I always recieve the alert in the company's name. Something like;

NGN123456.78 credited to a/c no 012****789 trGP*********June2015 at ABC BANK NIGERIA HEAD OFFICE on 01-Jul-15. Your Avail. Bal. is NGN876543.21

Then you got nothing to worry about, made a note of that in your application as the evidence is there in your account.

justwise:
Insurance is optional, you will not be penalized for not having one. You can apply for visa without one.

I have to correct that ^^

mirenda:
Hi

On proof of employment:
My employer does not give me payslips. Please how do I go around submitting payslips and letter of introduction from my employer.

Thanks



cc tnuola, team12, chrisviral, justwise

Do they pay directly into your account?

ugojay:
@Justwise--;Dmayb d person has been living with junkies..well,checkin some pics of d city,its not bad at all...atleast its better dan some cities here in naija

Bradford was redesigned in 2010, its now a modern city and your university is located at the heart of the city close to one of the oldest colleges in the UK, so student life in that area is a busy one. If you a party animal then you have enough clubs and bars just within 2mins from your uni

If you are not going to live in uni accommodation then search around BD1, BD5 and BD7 these areas are closer to uni

Successpro:
Please do I need Travel Insurance for the UK tourist visa.The whole family is travelling.@Justwise please assist. Thanks.

Insurance is optional, you will not be penalized for not having one. You can apply for visa without one.

Missdodo:
Hello all, I have an observation. I noticed that when i filled my form and stated that I had someone else paying for my trip, the follow up question was simply how much?!. but a colleague filled the same form and rather than the "how much" question, got questions like your relationship with the sponsor and why sponsor chose to sponsor your trip.

please why this discrepancy @ justwise n all.

thanks a bunch.

To be honest that is new to me, i guess the system is designed like that so as to avoid people giving a uniform answer for the same question.

justwise:
You completely missed the point! Don't go to Canada if you can't afford the fees and maintenance money to start with.

People are saying this in good faith and so that you don't make the same mistake others made and get stucked. Go home you can't because you can't afford the ticket or face the shame and stigma.

If you can afford to pay your fees and maintenance money at leas for a year then give it a go but leaving Nigeria with almost nothing and hoping to work and study to pay fees and bills is beyond madness.

Did you also read this ^^ part of my post?

AriseOCompatrot:
Chairman, I find it odd that you and Tinu are now jumping on Chrigo's post as if it is in consonance with what you guys said earlier. Tinu said categorically that people should not travel unless they have all the money complete. You (justwise) said anybody who travel without tuition and living expenses is PURE MADNESS. I even asked you if someone has 10k out of 15k tuition on a two year course, whether he should travel, you categorically said No! Your positions are at variance with that of Chrigo.
Jengetiele said people can travel with incomplete money and make a lot of money legally. Chrigo is disputing Jengetiele's claim as to how much people can make without breaking the law but Chrigo ended by affirming that people can make upto $10,000 a year legally by just working full time during the four months long break. In other words, Chrigo is saying that people can come with part money and work hard to make up the rest. Whether the stress of the work will tell on them or not was never the argument. It was whether or not they should venture out without complete tuition and living expenses.
And @justwise, I still dispute your claim that there is no other way of making money legally except through the 20 hours a week system or even the full time work during long breaks. If someone is gifted in designing websites or creating apps, whether or not the person is studying I.T. there, if that person works 20 hrs a week and can by the side use his software skills to design products that organizations there find useful, is that person engaging in illegality? If a lady who does accessories (beads and the likes) here in Nigeria, goes over there, takes up the 20 hrs a week offer, but on the sides is able to do beads she can sell to people of all races and creeds, is she breaking the law? If someone who writes scripts for Nollywood goes there and in spite of his course load and his 20hrs a week earnings, is able to sell a script for a short film to be aired during the toronto film festival, is he breaking the rules? Or someone studying engineering in Canny but in his spare time paints oil on canvass and sells as art work? I can go on and on but i'm sure you get my drift.
I am not in Canada yet so I am open to education from those who are there on whether the examples I have listed above are illegal. I have mentioned just four out of many other hands-on or intellectual gifts people can use to generate income outside of paid employment. My question is, would it be legal to do so? Let people knowledgeable and experienced with the Canadian system respond.
In any event, Chrigo, a well respected veteran of this thread, has swung the argument in favour of those who say that YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL TUITION AND LIVING EXPENSES COMPLETE before you apply to schools or for TRV or eventually travel.
Opposing views are still welcome

20yrs work limit is the same system in the UK, there is no difference, i went through the system, i worked the 20hrs and summer jobs to pay my way through education from undergraduate to masters. Whatever you do for money outside the 20hrs limit is illegal, web design, script writing etc, yes you may not be caught but when they do the law is clear.

And when you are caught the story will change to racism...they hate Nigerians bla bla bla


Yes you can have 3 jobs mostly 2-3 hrs cleaning jobs but at the end they all add up to 20hrs a week. During summer time you are free to work 24hrs round the clock but the truth is if you don't have at least one year of your school fees before coming these jobs can not pay your fees and living expense because you will be unable to save enough within that short period of time.

Again these jobs are not waiting for you to be picked up

ChriGo:
....My bros...sorry to say, I don't agree with the bolded statements...I want you to spit the way around it just like you said and lets see if there isn't any form of illegality involved....If you're advising peeps to come without having to pay tuition and don't wana share "how" then something is definitely shady about it.....Canada is not Nigeria where you break laws anyhow and think the government will listen to "reasonable explanation"...Muritala Airport is not far bro ....Its best to tell peeps the harsh reality...Its very possible to pay Tuition fee in Canada but definitely not the way you stated(Can't even see none)....Since students are only allowed to work 20hr/week, how much will you save after deducting bills wey fit make man go crazy...you realize you're left with nothing.....the way around this is to work cash Job which doesn't require SIN...with cash direct job, you can definitely work more hours cuz there is no way government would know since SIN isn't involve....with this, money can be saved but again working more hours would deter you from concentrating with studies which in-turn affects school grades plus its ILLEGAL!!(A friend almost got caught doing this).... The only legal way to do this is to work Full-time during scheduled break(You can work your a$$ off and make up to $10000 within 4 months break)... .This is what my classmates did....Majority all zoomed to Toronto to work their a$$ off so as to make enough money for tuition fee and other expenses....Its best to have at least two semesters tuition fee sorted out from Naija...after that, you can pay subsequent tuition fees yourself...THIS IS THE REALITY.....Canada is not heaven where everything is sure banker like baba ijebu....Jengbetiele, if you no want make people swear for you when dem land Canada to clearly see things themselves...You better tell them the Harsh truth biko ......

That is exactly how it's done. No other way around it legally.

Jengbetiele:
I was just reading through and i saw....people arguing about the possibility of paying your fees and surviving without bringing enough money from Nigeria. Dearest brethren 90percent of Nigerians and Africans I have meet here are paying their fees themselves with no support from anywhere. I was so confused at first because the mentality I had from here was paying your fees or surviving without input from home(Tuition wise) all by yourself is next to impossible, well my experience here totally flawed all that. There is a way around it; as a matter of fact you wont have to get yourself involved in any form of illegality provided you can work hard....well you wont even need to be told by the time you see all your room mates taking up 2 to 3 jobs closing from one job to resume for another, and having so much in their account to maintain and comfortably pay their tuition, you self go blend quick quick. And as regards the 20 hours per week for international student.....(there is a way around this too) I dont want to share how when you enter you go understand. Its nothing illegal, all i can say about that is where there is a will there is a way.... I am not encouraging anyone to go against the law because rules are rules and they are meant to be obeyed and i will never go against any myself but the funniest thing is even if you go against the minimum hours rules here and you have reasonable explanations, you wont be bounced "reasonable explanations" I have meet uncountable numbers of international students majorly Africans that came to Canada with just few months house rent and they are doing very fine. You may be thinking it could affect their them from concentrating.....you see life is so flexible here.....very very flexible. To cut the long story short, it is very very very very possible infact over possible.

Please share it here since it's not illegal.

ugojay:
@justwise: bad tins like;d city is full of chavs,drug dealers,well in dis 21st century pple can exaggerate tins dats y I can't really bliv d full story.

@pweedy-Dats great news..best of luck..

Hmmm,it seems I'm d only one goin to uni of bradford dis september

That person must be hanging around junkies and chavs. Drug dealers and chavs are in every city in the UK, i lived there for 6 years and never got troubled by that. Jobs may be an issue in Bradford though Leeds is just 20mins away which has more job opportunities and more vibrant.

OGreene:
Justwise, again with this leave letter you are talking about. I have the liberty to choose any month from now till December, I only want to request for the leave when I hv gotten a visa. Cant I explain in my application that I will req for leave after I hv gotten a visa. Whats the way around ds please

You are only making things difficult for yourself and giving the Eco more reasons to refuse a visa and doubt your intentions.

How can you apply for visa as somebody going on leave but you don't have leave letter neither do you know when your leave is starting?

Motun123:
Hello All, I am new here. I have gone through some posts in this forum and they have been helpful, however, I am still a bit confused and I need help. I applied for a visiting visa last year Aug and i was denied on the premise that transaction in my account is irregular and suspicious (I got a credit alert of almost times two of my monthly salary) and seems to them like i inflated my account for the purpose of getting a visa, family ties and no travel history. I work in a firm that pays relatively well. My fiance is currently working in uk , prior to when i even applied last year, but i told him not to invite me cos i felt my job and salary should be able to convince them that i can finance my trip, that was why i applied on my own, yet i was denied. Now, I want to reapply for another visa, my fiance and I are contemplating that he should invite me this time and we should let them know that he didnt invite me last year cos I was not engaged/in a relationship with him. I am actually confused on how to go about this application. I am scared of being rejected again. please kindly advise me on how to go about this application, thank you.
justwise and other gurus in this house, please helppppppp.

Yes your fiancé can invite you and include his bank statement, payslip and proof of accommodation.
You need to submit your salary account, payslip, employment letter and leave letter. If you have pictures of you and your fiancé submit that as well.
If there is any payment into your salary account other than the salary you need to explain the source.
Add any property or investment evidence you have

tolman061:
Hello house...Good day everyone

Pls i need ur urgent advise...I want to reapply for Uk visa again, i got 6months visit visa wit virgin passport around dis time last year,which i went immediately n spent my 1month for my annual leave. I was invited by my uncle which is like 80plus of age. He's ill now n he can't sit on d system n write invitation nw cos he was operated...n no one to help wit d invitation dis tym around.

Am planning of applying witout invitation,booking hotel for my stay n submitting my acct statement...Pls wats my chances of getting d visa? I av more than 1M in my acct n d money flows well. Hop d VO won't b wonderin y i didn't get invitation from dem dis tym around...I jst got US visa last month as well whic am planning to go...bt needs to do 1 or 2things in Uk...pls advise

Nobody can answer that with authority, just have to prepare well and apply then the Eco will make that decision

chimaamaechi17:
Hello justwise and others, I really need ur urgent responses to my question... Must bank account statement be printed out in coloured if I'm submitting to d embassy? I asked bec my sponsor's bank account statement was printed out by the bank in black nd white printer but very certified by the bank. thanks in anticipation of ur responses....

It does not matter at all.

Portsmouth86:
hi @Justwise, and Co

Please could you let me know what the up to date checklist is for the UK spouse visa application, I have pretty much got all my paperwork sorted, just to add last few before submission.

I also filled out the SU07/12 Sponsorship Undertaking form, as I had read in another forum that a husband was declined because he failed to supply it.

found it on this forum:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/immigration-for-family-members/sponsorship-undertaking-form-su07-12-t178721.html

thank you in advance, I hope you are enjoying the glorious sun here in England

Please can you list those documents you have already? Let's see if anything is missing

Portsmouth86:
I think I read it that it can take anything up to 12 weeks? I am sure Justwise and HFK will confirm

That is true, average of 3 months, can be quicker sometimes

phaara:
hello house

how many weeks visa taking now adays if documents subnitted to shieffeld

reply willbe appreciate

AriseOCompatrot:
I agree with you hundred percent sir!

But the discussion is about leaving without all the money needed and not about leaving without any money at all. Nobody would do that. There are people here who want to apply for a 2 year programme with tuition of 15,000CAD per annum. If all such a person has right now is 10,000 CAD, should that person apply or shouldn't he apply? And if he applies and gets admission and gets TRV, should he travel or shouldn't he travel? That I believe is what the discussion is about.

I await your perspective

No. That money is not enough for school fees let alone rent and bills