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babajeje123:
You didn't remove his post or threaten to do so because the argument suit your narrative. You were entangled in the brawl otherwise you would have done those.

LionInZion:
One even said people who don't tithe won't make heaven. You can imagine such guilt tripping coming from someone you respect and follow religiously. Yet folks will argue "no one force you to pay tithe"

davide470:
Lol I will hid your comments o. Justwise and Co.

KOVIC19COVID20:
I thought I was the only one who noticed.
it’s like there is some voyeuristic orgasm she gets whenever ‘Church’ is mentioned. Even if she’s on Nairaland holiday. As soon as church is mentioned, she will rush to castigate.


What I know - for a fact (and based on my UK experience) and the experience of thousands of others is that we have amazing stories of how God used the Church as a place of comfort for us when we arrived as newbies in this obodo UK.

For every 1 negative experience that some people may have, I dare say there are thousands (nay, millions) of positive experiences. But guess what? A microscopic few, very vocal minority makes it look like the ‘Church’ is a horrible place. Far from it!

Ps: Who else notice that there is this certain individual who is like Justwise’s doppelgänger. Whose moniker starts with the 1st letter of the African country that Priti Patel (and now Suella) wants to send small boat arrivals to. The individual’s moniker ends with the letter of the alphabet that rhymes with eggs. The individual Always, always concurs, seconds or supports any post by Justwise.
😉😉😉😉😉

babajeje123:
Not at all, cos that's what you do most time. Using you moderation privileges to intimidate others. Very similar to what bullies do.

jedisco:
You sound pained even to the extent of breaking rules.
Not too long ago, you said you were forced to pay tithe. Was it with a gun you were forced?
Even though you regret it today, you should take responsibility for your actions.

babajeje123:
This is bullying and display of unnecessary ego. The guy was right in fact I was going to post the same thing but got busy with other things. Leadership should be by example

rinzylee:
Wail ..... I will TITHE till I am no more.


The more I engage you , the more I see doubts to the placement I accord you sha.

So rather than lose more of that value, I'd stop here.


The CHURCH will keep marching on and prospering whether you Justwise brings a farthing or not. Know this and know peace nwannem.

If a crazy folk wronged you in church, forgive and forget and stop acting like Paul of Tarsus before he met Jesus.



Enjoy my man!!!

rinzylee:
Man sometimes the way you understand amazes me o. I expect better from you. I am not in any way shying away from topic or feeling uncomfortable in any way.

If you can't understand simple jokes, wahala dey.


The OP threw a very valid point, because Justwise would have shut down or deleted any post that starts to derail original intent of the thread, but as usual because it is a matter concerning Church and Pastors, you are very happy to let it stand.


Admit your fault baba and quit these type of behaviour.



I tire sha

Solumtoya:
@justwise, If this Tithe and Church argument was done by some other people, you would have deleted it all and said it was derailing the thread and off-topic.

Please, you guys can create another thread for this and share your thoughts there. It doesn't concern our conversation here.

rinzylee:
I agree o. Oya we hereby end this topic 😂

rinzylee:
Chai... my brother. I have told you. You just have an issue with the CHURCH. I can't help you.


I say again...No One has forced you to TITHE and no one will ever notice that your £$€¥ is not reporting to the Church account.


People who TITHE don't complain.

dustydee:
Brother, I think you are mistaken. First, what is tithe? Then what does the bible say about "paying" tithe. Was the instruction to pay tithes made to christians or the Jews? That passage you quoted, Christ was talking to Jews (The Pharisees) not Christians. What about parts of the scriptures that says you should use your tithe to buy alcohol and drink?
You mentioned "essence", if tithing was essential, why did Christ say it was not important?
If you choose tithing as one of the laws to obey, why are you not obeying the other 600+ laws?
I agree that giving is essential and good but why do we use it to build edifices and buy private jets. Christ said "Go ye into the world . . ." not build me palacial places of worship. Since I realised the truth about tithing, I have refrained from "paying" it. I concentrate more on my giving.
It is not recorded that the disciples paid tithe or ordered people to pay tithes.

rinzylee:
What if I told you that the command in the New Testament isn't even just 10%, but your whole life.

Tithe na beginner stage my brother.

See eh, there's a point you get to in your relationship with God and you eventually understand that your whole life and possessions belong to God.


I think you are still having issues because you think you are giving to Church. You don't see your giving as unto God.

I showed you 2 scriptures, 1 by Jesus and another referencing Jesus by Paul.


Mathew 23:23 Read in NLT version and Hebrews 7:8 also.


The church is the Body of Christ. Whatever we do in Faith is established in heaven.


I can't help your angst towards the CHURCH.


TITHE is for running the Kingdom projects and taking care of God's servants.


Let me ask you.... Has the Church shut down since you stopped TITHING? I assume you did tithe in the past.

People who understand are still TITHING.


AND YES TITHING is RECOGNISED and approved by JESUS.

It is neither an old or a new testament practise.

It is older than Abraham and Moses who are the bedrock of the old testament.

You don't pick 1 and leave the other.


Dear JUSTWISE People that genuinely TITHE do not complain.

rinzylee:
Ok I see your points which are very very valid.


Now let me try to do some explaining and I stand to be corrected and would appreciate any contribution too.


To start with, TITHING precedes Jesus Christ. It was even practised before Abraham came. So it is not a new testament or modern age fabrication. Infact Jesus made a very emphatic statement in Mathew 23:23 NLT translation "“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

As much as it is a command by God, I will also say that He will not kill Mr A or Mrs B if they default , but there are conditions He has put to the obedience of that COMMAND. Infact, every blessing or promise in scripture has a condition to experience it. Even SALVATION which is FREE is based on the condition of REPENTANCE and BELIEVING in the finished works of CHRIST.

rinzylee:
😂 😂....my brother...we will keep defending the FAITH. He will come around someday.


The question I always ask "what did Church do to you ?
Did anyone force you to pay TITHES or OFFERING or to SOW a SEED?


Why you dey drink paracetamol on top person headache?


Yet, if army man slap you for naija, you go shout sorry sir.....

But Las Las JUSTWISE and Lexusgs430 na my men o...highly cerebral homosapiens.

OGsponstaneous:
@justwise read your mail

Lexusgs430:
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-ban-funke-felix-adejumo-from-coming-to-the-uk-to-defraud-the-people-and-the-country

Lexusgs430:
Unfortunately, they have extended this crime scene, to the UK ......

At least they have started to rebel...... Who remembers the funke visa saga ........ Slowly slowly, the charity commission and NCA, shall catch up with them ........😜😂

rinzylee:
Smh... this is very terrible of you sir.

Enjoy the moment!

Hkana:
Dependant

lavida001:
Call his name with your full chest 🤣

Religion is one of Nigerias problem.

Solumtoya:
Imachakwa! Normal na, Justwise and Lexus no dey use ear hear Church. They come with full force whenever Church is mentioned.

Viruses:
Perhaps you didn't 'approach with your eyes wide open and senses on guard'. You have yourself to blame.

A church is a community of people with the same/similar beliefs and practices. There is nothing wrong in advising someone to seek help in a community be it religious, professional, traditional or tribal community. Your expectations and approach is what matters.

Don't lose guard because you think they are holy. Be at alert.

Hkana:
Hello house, what career path can someone with experience in retail banking transition to in the UK. Career path that comes with sponsorship.

Cc justwise ticha zahra and anyone else who can help

rinzylee:

😂

I no dey bother myself again 😂

Regex:
It is quite funny how our enemy outside the country is usually our country men masked as a religious fellow.

Gift7428:
You might not really need a church or mosque if you know what you are doing. NL sef is enough for you to get the right information. Go to church to serve God genuinely. Most of my coursemates who did this church thing still didn’t achieve anything better than me. I am a child of God tho 😂

koonbey:
All very unfortunate but all very unrelated to the church in question or churches generally.

Or if the man had been a 'well respected' man in a university and had given you an academic book instead of a Bible would you be citing him as an example of how you were victimised by a university?

Lexusgs430:
My point was, religious houses is NEVER a magic bullet....... Approach with your eyes wide open and senses on guard .......

wallg123:
Justwise I think first direct has the highest interest rate for savings @ 7%
https://www.firstdirect.com/savings-and-investments/savings/regular-saver-account/