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debolay: @justwise

Please i need your opinion on this

My mum in law has a british passport (got it in the 80s). for reasons best known to her she didn't file for her daughter (now my wife age 31+) we have 2 kids. First child was given birth to in the uk. we all have uk visas, i visit the uk frequently.
my mum inlaw now lives in ireland. she suggested that she can process my children's documents in ireland especially my first child because she was given birth to in the uk. Please how possible is this?

That will be a miracle, those kids are not hers, its almost impossible

Afam4eva: Dude, when did my personal experience now require a source. You London people sha.

You are using your personal experience to make a bold claim as if you are speaking from IMF report

Afam4eva: You people think every discussion is a black and white issue. Are we not talking about the economic opportunities in UK? Are we not limiting the discuss to just that? Who said anything about the educational standard?

Afam4eva you know what? I can't get my head around this issue of comparing the UK and Nigeria you do each time topic like this comes up.

How can you compare two countries that are totally different? The difference between the UK and Nigeria is like the difference between night and day

Afam4eva: And i make up even more tiny percent of the population of Nigeria and as a social recluse i have one of the fewest friends in the world. Imagine how many of the friends of other Nigerians come back every years. Do you want to tell me that you as a UK resident does not see people coming back home every year? Lest i forget, i have more people in the US than in the UK yet most people who are coming back home are those who live in the UK. Doesn't that tell you something?

Source? Give me a link where you read that from

Afam4eva: A lot of people that i know that go to the UK now, only go thereto study and return thereafter.

You started this by moaning that there is nothing in the UK, that the UK is 50yrs behind, its a dead zone...bla bla bla.

At the same time your friends are paying millions a year to study in the UK? A place that got nothing to offer? Why did they not study in Nigeria and save millions in fees? I mean..Nigeria is full of opportunities, people love each other and live in peace.

ize prince: @justwise/ vicjustwise, why re u guys benching austria student thread na? E no make sense dat way na, I (we) re left out on d whole student visa issh here nd the most annoyin part is, if som1 creates a new thread concernin austria u guys will just come out 4rm no where nd close d thread...thas not just wise.

Why not start helping out here https://www.nairaland.com/700645/how-convenient-student-life-austria/2#17118258

That is an Austria thread. What else do you want?

Afam4eva: I didn't discuss anything relating to frequency with you. Stop putting words into my mouth.

Discussing frequency is pointless because you can't possibly have 20 friends returning back from the UK every year.

How many Nigerians live in the UK? Any idea? How many Nigerians leave Nigeria for the UK every year?

Afam4eva: ok. Roughly 20. Mind you i don't have loads of friends.

Exactly! 20 of your friends returned back from the UK every year?

Afam4eva: What does it matter. What matters is that compared to before, a lot more people are coming back home.

It really does matter, give us a figure, lets put this issue to rest.

Afam4eva: Too numerous to count. Why do you ask?

I need a figure Afam4eva, i'm sure you can count number of friends you have that returned back to Nigeria.

otswag: that is very true from sources that got it very recently.Except ur source's from ppl that got it years ago.Of course they'd be some exceptions but I'm talkin about the greater majority. Those that eventually stay there afterwards are those that have to come back and succeed in getting their visa's renewed.

Again you are wrong, foreign students going for Msc courses for example are given 16months visa, a year for your course and extra 4months to sort yourself out.

Msc courses don't last one year, start Sept and finish June or July, so you have August till Nov 30th to look work.

So its not one month as you stated earlier and you can also extend your visa in the UK if you are going for Phd for example or got a graduate job, you don't have to return to Nigeria to do that.

Afam4eva: I said Leaving not Living. I have a lot of friends who lived in the UK but have returned and all of them have bad tales of their experience in that country and some of them are even citizens.

How many of your friends returned from the UK?

otswag: yes I agree the majority are suffering in nigeria but a good reason many of the nigerian immigrants in uk are seemingly able to "cope" there is because they get pity and help from other nigerians already there who many times are illegal immigrants.Even when u get a study visa or something to the uk,the duration is set so that it expires just about a month after you graduate making it difficult to get employment there so its obvious they don't want you around.their recent immigration laws buttresses on that fact.the truth is the standard of living is a lot better than here but its highly overrated.Even the citizens would confirm that so kinni big deal?

That is not true

erico2k2: well thats a 50-50 argument bro, how about the NI?

The NHS employs 'them' in good faith, there is no indication that they are illegal immigrants, papers presented are all genuine, so NI will be paid to the govt.

Dodgy companies who employe illegal immigrants do that purely for financial gain, those illegal workers will not be in their payroll, its cash-in-hand, this is not the case with the NHS.

claremont: The current ''Con-Dem'' government in the UK is gradually starting to toe the line of Australia in pursuing racist policies against immigrants. The fact of the matter is that the reason there are illegal immigrants in the UK is primarily due to the failure of the UKBA to perform their job. If they do what they are paid to do, then there wouldn't be a need for this campaign in the first place.

Part of that job include removing illegal immigrants right?

Afam4eva: The UK has been left behind by the world. There's very little to celebrate in that country.

What do you have in 'other world' that is lacking in the UK?

erico2k2: False, some people are illegal and work in teh NHS(fact)

Yes but they don't apply for that job with forged or visiting visa, they apply with either impersonating real person or with stolen document

Afam4eva: You can dispute my claim instead of coming up with this whole "You really need to travel". You've still not answered my question. Why are Nigerians in the UK coming back in their drives if the UK is as sweet as you'd want us to believe.

All that exaggeration is coming from your head, there is no truth in it, Nigerians are not leaving the UK in numbers as you claimed. You are just making things up as you go.

Afam4eva: There are also millions of Nigerians in Cameroon, does that mean Cameroon is a bed of roses? People will always go to places they think will change their lives for the better. But whether their lives will change for the better is another kettle of fish. If the UK is a country of opportunities like you would want us to believe then tell us why a lot of NIgerians even the ones with relatively high paying jobs keeps moving back to Nigeria. The UK and the British empire is history. The whole world have moved on the the British are still holding on to the past because there's nothing else to hold on to. The empire is as redundant as they come.

You really need to travel a bit, you are still living in 1908. You don't sound like somebody who know jack about the UK

Afam4eva: The educational system is better than what is obtained in Nigeria. The point people are making here is that UK is not the place one goes to settle. They have ok schools and relics that attracts tourist but as far as settling down in that country, it's a NO NO. Btw, i would never even consider schooling in the UK because i rate the American, Canadian and Irish education higher. UK as a country has become redundant.

You seems to be the only person with this narrow view,the UK embassies around the world still experience long queue of people seeking for visa, so which planet are you living on?

Afam4eva: Gbam...Most people i know are only going there to school after which they remove their shoes and take off. It even makes better sense living in a lot of African countries than the UK. The UK is dead.

Why do you preferred studying in the UK than African countries even as its far more expensive to study in the UK?

Btruth: .........been there, done that. I've always advice people that there's nothing left in the UK, excepts you are going on holidays or on a business trip.

Sorry guys!, there's no place like home.

That is contradicting, there is something there if its good for holiday and business.

Oh i get it!! They are not dashing out freebies any more...

AjanleKoko: That's the interesting thing.
How is it possible for British nationals to lose their jobs to illegals?
Can't get my head around that. How is it possible?

Its profitable but risky to employ illegal immigrants because the company will pay them below minimum wage and avoid paying NI to the govt.

adaobi123: Lol

But the immigration force can forcibly make their way in, remember ?

Yes but without their passports you can't deport them, many destroy or hide their passports away from the house, getting TC from embassies is not easy as many embassies are not in a hurry to corporate with UKBA

adaobi123: I know right ? They should just stick with house raiding thing they are used to.

illegals don't open doors for strangers any more

ferdiii: Okay...still have not seen any hidden comments on Igbo men being deported or Yoruba men being forced on them as their leader at Oladipo...kind of selective abortion here.

I have a burning hatred for tribal comments, you can say it and get away with it in other sections but not here.

By the way you are not suppose to be commenting because you are banned, you service it no matter the ID.

ferdiii: Justwise, do you have a button for deregistering? I would like to know so that when it is time to move on I will delete two accounts:ferdimako and ferdiii or at most call on you to.

There is no such button, if you have had enough of nairaland then you leave quietly the way you came

Seriousbusiness: Some people ll soon come to say UK is for all.Biko!!

Yes thats right, for all legal immigrants

adaobi123: Interesting campaign.

But I think some people will need to be forcibly removed though, I don't think they will just leave because a van says so.

Its waste of time and money, how will immigrant who can't read or speak English language notice that?

Walspring: I give special thanks to God Almighty cos i was DENIED visa today at US embassy Lagos.. STRANGE THINGS HAPPENED SO I GOT STRANGE REPLY. kindly please read it and advise me

I got to the place by 6:30AM after i was told that i cant pass through car park down to the embassy cos that was a short route for me. When i got there i saw people on the queue and met a lady who asked me how many passport was need and i said 2 and she still asked me to allow her use my phone to tell his brother at the parking lot to bring passport photograph for her.

After less than 45 minutes people for interview stated by 7:30am was called on the queue. the we all line up for checking of documents... Well i must say this US spent most of their money on securities cos i observed that they have more than 7 securities either armed or unarmed. After i was told to sit down and we started primary school play when one person will sit turn by turn, i cant remember when last i did that but i did it today at the US embassy well and later it go to my turn with 4 others and we are escort to the main building..

[b]THE STRANGE THINGS:
while i was praying with my prayer points cos i attend MFM, A guy was sitting beside me and he saw my prayer points, after some minutes he said when we get inside i will let him also use my prayer points and i said no problem... Eventually we got inside different time but strangely we sat close to each other and the first words he told me was that he was pointing to 2 different VO's in stand 4 and 6.. I no send this guy message oo but he said the GUY in stand 6 always deny people and i told him i dont care cos God is in control and advise me not to go there when my number pop up there.. Instant this guy finished saying this to me i started praying back and telling God anywhere my number pop up God should favour me cos i have less words to speak and holy spirit should do the rest of the speaking for me.. Unfortunately for me while praying i dont know when my number pop up for BIO-METRIC and i missed my RIGHT TIME there... The same thing goes to the guy cos i was 122 and the guy was 123.. I just raised my head up and i saw 124 but i didnt take note that i had already missed my right i have to meet a security man and explained to him but the security man asked me to wait that my number will still pop up (I used the OT of a[/b] girl in NL here ).

Inside my mind i keep saying God take control but i still never knew am missing my right time until i look at the number screen and i saw when the one of 120 move till 141 and the one of 124 is already in 168 for BIO METRIC while INTERVIEW number are within 114 to 118 and i dont want to miss that too since i missed the BIO METRIC... So i had to approach another security man who came inside from outside and it was this man that order the security i told before to go and meet the guy at stand 7 or so it was then i realized i was DELAYED for something to happen... Instantly there i said GOD turn this delay to blessing until i went for my bio metric.. This same guy immediately he noticed i solved that he stood up from where he was and went to the same VO who did my bio metric and came back to me asked if the man give me my Passport back and i said NO and he said the man didnt give him too.

Instead for 122 to call, the guy number was called 123 and it was the same person who the guy told me that usually deny people attended to this guy while i was waiting looking at him how is was denied, Although through their conversation i noticed what he told the VO about his wife was not correct to what he filled on DS-160 so he got denied and he was still there trying to tell the VO how many times he was denied and reason too.

After 1 or 2 minutes my number was called on counter 2 so i immediately disappear for God to appear and let his will be done.

This is my interview below;

VO: Good morning
Me : Morning Ma
VO: Which school are you going?
ME: California State Uni, fresno ( I looked up i saw 2 VO's but i dont know why?) STRANGE oo
VO's: Which course
ME: Computer science (Major)
VO's: Pass me you documents
Me: I quickly pass am... (Another STRANGE things cos Documents before any other things)
VO's: why do pick the school?
ME: I told thhem school has unique facilities in learning and it have one of the biggest libraries in the California State University system and also they have a well structured course curriculum and how they also teach their student and practical stuff too cos my course requires practicals
VO's: who is your sponsor?
ME: my lovely mother ( I looked up again the VO has increased to 3 just because of me) 1 was typing and asking me questions while the rest where looking inside the system but i dey surprise oooo.
VO's: What did she do for work?
ME: She retired as a matron at the Lagos state general hospital Ikeja, but now she owns an Enterprise Company where she is into multi trading business of general merchandise sales and supply of pharmaceutical drug and equipment both wholesales and retails.
VO's: which school do u finish from (High school)
ME: I told them Skylight Comp college
VO's: Which year do you grad from High school?
ME: 2011 and i told them i have to resit in 2012 cos i did neco while the school accept WAEC
VO's: which other school did you apply to?
ME: i told her 2 different school in different states although i didnt apply to them .... (instant she check her system and i dont know why but will they know someone apply to 1 school and the person claimed more than 1 cos i would have love to tell them 1 school but since it was advised here that if you say 1 school is a big DENIED)
VO's: Which test will you take when you get to the school?
ME: I told them just the tests which was stated on my letter, but it sounds STRANGE to me cos she knew i will take those tests there while i was expecting them to ask me if i take any standardized exams so that i can finish them there cos that what people do say when they sharing their testimony. (maybe i was denied cos i didnt write the test here?)
VO's: they started looking into the system together and the main VO started saying am sorry blah blah blah blah and handed my documents back.
ME: INSTANTLY I SAY THANK YOU JESUS cos i came, i saw unfortunately i didnt conquer today cos i but i will conquer tomorrow.


Big thanks to God for this interview and all that happened cos that GUY is a GUY I MUST MISS TODAY but only God knew why i didnt miss him when i got to the main hall cos i miss him while i was on my way to the main hall although i pity him thinking he can benefit from my prayer point but this GUY was USED to STOPPED me cos my GO will always say STOP THEM BEFORE THEY STOP YOU and the LION IN THE US EMBASSY swallowed me today but when next i re apply the LION CANT SWALLOW ME cos i will DESTROY him with power in the name of JESUS.

Big thanks also to BIG FRANCIS, OLAWARLEY, RICKY ROSA, IMPERIOUXX, GBOYEGA, SIMON and other in the house that i didnt mention your names but i cant stop crying here cos i disappointed you all to by not sharing a good news with you especially OLAWARLEY cos you encourage me to work with power for prayer and fasting which i started fasting since july 1st up till this morning. Finally i fail God cos he already promise me this but all is well... Right now I WILL PURSE, I WILL OVERTAKE AND I WILL RECOVER BACK ALL WHAT I LOST TODAY cos i will never stop my journey half way until i reach my goal and get this my US STUDENT VISA. (Amen)

1, I need you all in the house to tell me where i went wrong here and
2, I need you all in the house to tell me where i went wrong during my interview with the VO's
3, can i still re apply cos my school dead line of resumption is August 22nd
4, can i still see Lagos date for interview as from tomorrow till August 18th?
5,can i still use my I-20 since its fall admission?
6, can i wait and apply for the next admission which is WINTER?
7, Add more advise you think i need

You really need to get your proprieties right, you went for visa interview but you spent a great chunk of the time praying, did not noticed when your number was called, blaming the wrong person for the refusal. How will you know why you were refused when you were busy doing the right thing at the wrong time?

[quote author=mr_king]Apparently! This campaign is targeted at Nigerians!!![/quote]Yes because Nigerians are the only people living illegally in the UK?

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