₦airaland Forum

RiceProducers:
Of course it can never be this cheap. Don't also forget this country is under comprehensive US sanctions. They won't get specialised equipment like some avionics, displays, ejection seats, some materials for carbon fibre, some engine alloys, chips et.c..which means Russia would need to get close to 100% local content for these sub components of components of systems.
This means they would be developing a lot of stuff locally. How then can this aircraft be cheap?

RiceProducers:
They are joking. That's $90m at least. Don't forget they are exporting to partly finance the development of their own line of aircrafts to tackle F22s and B21s

RiceProducers:
You are not a JF17 fan. Me too but we need it. Block 3 won't come before 2023. We need at least 3 more JF17 Block 2 and at least 6 nos of M346 FA for LIFT / quick response CAS

RiceProducers:
Can you see the different camo schemes?. Some of them would be used in southern Nigeria

RiceProducers:
Advertisement purposes OR maybe to obviate cost of specialist manpower to do a re-assembly in Naija. Americans are also costly because of elaborate security arrangements

kabe1:
Nigerian Air Force A-29 Super Tucano

Nemesis4you:
So it has IWB , thats clears it up

Nemesis4you:
Sukhoi set 25-30 million dollars for a 5 th gen aircraft seriously

Thats a salesman trap IMO

Whyem15:
Wait first, how much did we pay for the JF-17s?

NTSA:
Internal weapons bay helps to reduce the radar cross-section thus increasing stealth. Maybe the Russians are compensating it with other features. I have also read articles claiming stealth is becoming useless.

Nemesis4you:
From what i know a true 5 th gen fighter will be expensive to procure , maintain and operate

This very reason will keep 4++ gen aircrafts going for long with incremental inclusion of advanced features like sensor fusion , active stealth features , unmanned wingmans etc

Unmanned wingmans will definitely be a big factor followed by unmanned combat bomber drones definitely in a collaborative fighter bomber role with manned fighters in the loop in the background for support, direct intervention if required etc

Nemesis4you:
Internal weapons bay

Though i will prefer to wait for the official confirmation wheather it has it or not

Xbee007:
So happy to see this. Look at the camaraderie! Makes me wanna join the air force.

iblawi:
Who set the parameters first of all?

That one no concern Russia. They might even have better parameters. Even China is not building theirs to fill such requirements.

Every nation knows what's best for them.

Nemesis4you:
Unfortunately there is no standardisation regarding 5th gen parameters for obvious reasons

So end of the day publically everyone accepts the OEMs designation

Publications & armchair analysts opinions are at the end of day personal opinion which might be unanimous or not , correct or not

What i said regarding it not being full 5 th gen is bec i suspect it has no IWB , but if OEM says it is 5 th gen than it is, as the norm is to follow OEM claims regardless

I simply posted my opinion nothing much to it

Nemesis4you:
I kind of doubt it is full 5th gen more like the Korean KFX with external weapons carriage

jteku:
Is it safe to deploy the shoot before touch down

Xbee007:
It is time NAF look into the theory of sabotage. All the aircraft technicians and people who work close to the aircraft hangars need to be properly profiled.

I strongly suspect the airfoce has been infiltrated. Loosing 4 aircrafts within 7 months cannot be a coincidence.

Quitam:
A military aircraft reportedly crashes in Kaduna state.
https://dailypost.ng/2021/07/18/another-nigerian-military-aircraft-crashes/?amp=1&utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Lurker4Long:
More details emerge...

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/landing-gear-mishap-unlikely-to-affect-bronco-iis-chances-in-socom-competition/

AskiaHarem:
Wow wow slow down we first half to see if the stagnant Russian economy can even afford to produce them in bulk. Remember the su57 and T14 Armata? Years later still only a handful of those things exist.

Coolliot:
To fight who with it or deter who? We can't fight any country that really has enemies that require stealth aircraft....it better we stick to out jf17 hopefully block 3, and maintain our local champion and build infrastructure and economy with human capacity. A country isn't only about its military.
Mind you the Security issues Nigeria has now, isn't about strong or weak military, it's about the other variables that affect human wellbeing that are lacking. Provide and environment that makes the citizens happy , and security would slowly creep in.

Roan77:
Do you think we can afford this aircraft, maintenance and operational costs?