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Locally made Rockets for Nigerian Air Force Aircrafts

Xbee007:
That the drone are in-country is not even a debate. The COAS clearly said they are already within the country and ready to be deployed. In fact, you posted it here on that day. I just wish to know the make of the UCAVs.

Ch-4

Wing-long

Ch-3

These are the types ordered.


Air Marshal Abubakar further disclosed that the acquisition of 3 variants of UCAVs; 2 x Wing Loong II, 4 x CH-4 and 2 x CH-3; were part of efforts to enhance the NAF’s intelligence gathering for air operations

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[b]OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS RECEIVES BOOST AS CAS INSPECTS ONGOING REACTIVATION WORK ON F-7NI AIRCRAFT, COMMISSIONS INFRASTRUCTURAL PROJECTS IN MAKURDI

The drive to reposition the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) into a highly professional and disciplined force through capacity building initiatives for effective, efficient and timely employment of air power in response to Nigeria’s national security imperatives, is receiving further boosts as the Service is set to take delivery of additional aircraft, including 3 JF-17 multi-role fighter aircraft and 8 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (UCAVs), whilst also reactivating several existing platforms such as the F-7Ni fighter jet. This was made known today, 9 November 2020, by the the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, who was on an operational visit to NAF Base Makurdi to assess the ongoing reactivation work on the F-7 aircraft.

While in Makurdi, the CAS also commissioned some infrastructural projects, including the newly-remodeled and fully-furnished NAF School of Air Intelligence (NAFSAINT) as well as a block of 10 x single bedroom and block of 6 x 2-bedroom accommodation for the Pakistani pilots and technicians who would support the JF-17 aircraft during the first year of its operations in Nigeria. The CAS was also briefed on the progress of some ongoing Research and Development (R&) projects, which include a handheld single-rocket launcher and 6-tube rocket launcher, being jointly executed by the 131 Engineering Group and the 633 Central Armament Depot (633 CAD) Makurdi.

Speaking after assessing the progress of work on the F-7Ni aircraft, the CAS expressed extreme delight that the Federal Government’s support to the NAF was yielding great dividends in ensuring the Service has the required platforms to more effectively secure the Nation. He noted that this was evident in the volume of ongoing reactivation work on several grounded aircraft to bring them back to serviceable status. “Recall that, just last week, we were in Kainji to assess the progress of ongoing in-country Periodic Depot Maintenance (PDM) on 2 Alpha Jet aircraft. Today, we are in Makurdi for the reactivation of the F-7 aircraft and, by next week, we will be in Kano to see what is going on with the Life Extension Programme (LEP) of another batch of 3 L-39ZA aircraft”, he said.

Air Marshal Abubakar emphasized that these activities clearly showed the level of seriousness with which the Government is working to ensure that the NAF gets some of its grounded aircraft back to flying status. He revealed that, out of the 9 F-7 fighter jets earmarked for reactivation, 7 aircraft, which require high level, in-depth maintenance by the Original Equipment Manufacturer, were being disassembled for freighting to China due to the unavailability of all the necessary maintenance and test equipment within Nigeria. He however highlighted that 2 of the aircraft would undergo Life Extension Programme within the Country, which would be executed by the Chinese technical partners, with support from NAF Engineers and Technicians, using equipment in the recently reactivated Machine Tools Workshop at the 131 Engineering Group. The idea, he said, was to ensure that the NAF has adequate number of serviceable aircraft whilst also building the capacity of NAF personnel in line with what was done with the Alpha Jets in Kainji as well as with the C-130Hs and the L-39ZAs aircraft in Ikeja and Kano, respectively. “This clearly shows that all hands are on deck. We are working round the clock to ensure that we have what it takes in terms of capabilities as well as capacity to ensure that we provide the required security for our people and our country”, the CAS added. He further disclosed that the UCAVs being expected from China had been packaged for shipment to Nigeria, while the training of the NAF personnel to man them is ongoing in China.

Speaking earlier during the commissioning ceremony, the CAS stated that since 2015, the NAF had prioritized the provision of good living accommodation for personnel as well as befitting hostels and state-of-the-art training facilities for its schools. These efforts, he said, had greatly enhanced the output of NAF operations and given the Service several technological breakthroughs. Air Marshal Abubakar further noted that the current security challenges facing the Nation had necessitated robust, unique and diversified approaches to military operations, particularly in intelligence gathering. “Upgrading our structures for intelligence gathering is one of those approaches. As such, the importance of this event cannot be overemphasized”, he said.

Air Marshal Abubakar further disclosed that the acquisition of 3 variants of UCAVs; 2 x Wing Loong II, 4 x CH-4 and 2 x CH-3; were part of efforts to enhance the NAF’s intelligence gathering for air operations.[/b] He added that the equipment alone cannot deliver accurate intelligence. According to him, “the NAF is not oblivious of the fact that it would always need skilled intelligence personnel to translate the information from these machines into actionable intelligence needed to formulate plans, make decisions and take actions. As such, the Service is keenly developing the knowledge and skills of intelligence operators for this purpose”.

While reminding personnel to justify the resources being expended to improve their knowledge, skills and welfare, the CAS urged them to do all within their power to ensure that they deliver desired results for the security and progress of the Country. “As a Service, we must strive to meet the expectations of the country at this time of our heightened involvement in curbing insecurity. We must efficiently protect the citizenry and our critical assets and, as much as, possible support the civil authorities in ensuring the safety and security of our society. We must ensure we put in our best to ensure that the Nation’s territorial integrity and sovereignty are not undermined by individual or group of individuals”, he said. The CAS expressed his profound appreciation to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari, for his support in ensuring that the NAF is better skilled and equipped to fulfill its statutory responsibilities. He also thanked members of the National Assembly for their continued support to the Service.

Earlier in his welcome remarks, the Commandant NAFSAINT, Air Commodore Ernest Owai, while expressing his appreciation to the CAS for his unwavering support, stated that the School, in keeping with the CAS’ Vision, had continued to review its curriculum and manuals in accordance with the dynamic nature of the intelligence statecraft to ensure the provision of accurate and timely intelligence to support NAF operations. He said the upgraded facilities would provide the much-needed relief and enabling environment for more effective impartation of knowledge. “As the CAS always says, ‘you cannot give what you do not have’, hence the drive for capacity building. We are indeed thankful to the CAS for improving the lot of the NAFSAINT and for continuously showing uncommon commitment to meeting the needs of the School”. He assured that the facility would be judiciously utilized and properly maintained to serve generations of NAF personnel that would pass through the School.

Other dignitaries at the ceremony included the Chief of Defence Intelligence, Air Vice Marshal Mohammed Usman; the Commander Operation WHIRL STROKE; Air Officers Commanding of the Tactical Air Command and Air Training Command; as well as other senior military officers and heads of security agencies in Benue State.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
9 November 2020

jln115:
Well they delivered @Kabe1s Patrol boats just a couple of days ago..........

To a private security company, not the Nigerian military.

jln115:
Maybe since Nigeria received patrol boats from SA @Kabe1 has changed his tune

If Nigeria needs drones you could always come South

Pic: Battle proven Seeker 400

Pic 2: Milkor UAV which can also be armed.

If you can't deliver for the South-African National Army, how would you deliver to Nigeria?

You can't deliver to Egypt.

The patrol boats you delivered to Nigeria are for private security, not the Nigerian military.

Toju200:
they could be more the clip is too short.but I saw two

OK, I've seen it. The green one and desert camouflage vehicles.

shadowprimezero:
1. How does any of that matter if the drone is able to achieve such extreme levels of success and almost single-handedly changed the tides of wars in Syria, Libya, Iraq and now Azerbaijan?

2. Turkey is working towards fully indeginizing all critical components across all of its drone classes. Typical example is when Canada suspended shipments of optics about two weeks ago, it took Turkey less than a week to integrate and test new optics from Aselsan with very comparable results to the Canadian one. Ditto for engines, Turkey is already working on one with Rocketsan and Aselsan and has just signed a defence agreement with Ukraine on further engines amongst other things, including for its next generation fighter jet currently in development.

In conclusion, Turkish defense tech is moving at an exceptional pace and has already proven itself. Nigeria would gain a lot by establishing a working partnership. Sanctions on Turkey's defense industries seem to be having the exact opposite effect.

Aselsan CATS EO/IR was integrated to the Bayraktar TB2 UAV. The first test flights with MAM-L munitions was done and carried out the first strikes using CATS' targeting system.pic.twitter.com/e1YXVvIenJ

— Cemal (@Acemal71) November 6, 2020

It didn't change the tide of war in Syria, after initial losses, government forces were able to deal with the UCAV problem with the deployment of Buk & Tor systems.

In Libya, yes, in Azerbaijan, they have also been very effective.

Turkey does not have the technology for any sort of full indigenization as you have claimed, from the infographic I earlier posted, all the critical parts used in TB2 are imported.

The Aselsan optics you refer to, if we dig a little deeper still has western parts. It is also clearly more inferior than the Wescam optics currently in use.

Look at the T-129 helicopter for the Philippines and Pakistan, deliveries might never happen. The ships for Pakistan also relies heavily on western parts.

In conclusion all the evidence shows Turkey doesn't have an indigenous, independent defence industry. All the claims of Turkish made systems are a ruse. It's like saying Pakistan manufactures the JF-17.

We are better off buying critical weapon systems from China, Russia or directly from the West. Thankfully our military planners have identified this problem and are doing just that.

New photos of seaward defence boat 3

shadowprimezero:
If only Nigeria would invest in buying the Bayraktar, with MAM-L and MAM-M missiles . IMO, that would even be better than the Tucanos. The Turkish drones hands down won this war for the Azeris and it did so in just over a month.

https://mobile.twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1325421621503516672

I will not advice Nigeria to go for any advanced "Turkish" system.

They are only Turkish in branding, not practice.

mekussa:
They say action speaks louder than words.
I remember how we shouted down someone on this thread who was advocating for the massive use of drones in the N.E.

Look at the damage done by drones in Armenia. This happened in a space of months. I don't think BOKO BOYS would survive if they got this level of damage.

They don't have to be Turkish, Chinese attack drones would do.

You didn't get the actual crux of that debate. That individual was saying drones should be used to target foot soldiers. That's not the best method of employment of UCAVs.

What Turkey has done in this conflict, there's no proof to show Azerbaijani are the ones conducting these drone strikes, is that they have used the drones to target armour, SEAD missions and large grouping of soldiers.

That's how Drones are used.

Also note, Drones are slow moving aircrafts, they can be targeted easily by more modern air defence systems. We've seen this in Syria, Libya and now Armenia.

We need to have a mix of highly capable offensive systems. If we add the 8 UCAVs which we just procured, plus the 4 units previously in service we would have a good mix of offensive assets for LICW environment.

shadowprimezero:
If only Nigeria would invest in buying the Bayraktar, with MAM-L and MAM-M missiles . IMO, that would even be better than the Tucanos. The Turkish drones hands down won this war for the Azeris and it did so in just over a month.

https://mobile.twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1325421621503516672

What advantage does this give to Nigeria?

Xbee007:
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As you can see, we are all right. Like we predicted this was going to happen.

The US has the power to frustrate us out of our holes, it's best at this stage we start pandering to Biden.

Jonathan, Obasanjo and Buhari have all been quick to congratulate and show support to him.

Hopefully it translates to a meaningful relationship.

Russia is clearly not a reliable partner, and China can only do so much.

Modern combat

Azerbaijan, Armenia urban street combat.

Azerbaijani forces have defeated the Armenian army and taken control of the second largest city in Nargano-Karabahk, next objective would be the capital.

Footage shows Armenian soldiers engaging Azerbaijani soldiers.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZrcK5z6Lc

Toju200:
Update from the front line.
Troops yesterday dealt with BHT
We had some casualties when the terrorists fired an RPG.
May their soul rest in peace

CJTF and Army Foiled an ambush on their convoy thankfully no casualties or injuries.

I hope NA sustains the momentum of Op Fireball.
I saw a large convoy yesterday of military vehicles good to see some Ara MRAPs
Preparing for an offensive.

Post video link.

How many ARA mraps?

youghs:
So guys, can we now say the possibility of getting the super tucano is now slim since the democrats have won the US election.

I think Biden might let the Tucano deliveries for Nigeria fly. However I really fear for future support for the Tucanos.

Biden is simply an extension of the Obama administration. As we all know, Obama's administration was very hostile to Nigeria.

They initially blocked the Tucano purchase from Brazil, after the Rann Bombings they blocked Tucano deliveries again for Nigeria.

Obama frustrated Nigeria's efforts to buy arms from Israel. The ones we bought from Pakistan, they also frustrated it, denying Nigeria right of air passage in the middle east region.

The issues we had with South-Africa was primarily as a result of America frustrating Nigeria's efforts to buy arms from other countries.

This really is not looking really good for Nigeria's military, they have the power to also frustrate our defence industry.

To avoid problems we would be forced to go suck up to them.

jln115:
I'll tell you once you admit you blatantly lied

You guys take this internet thing to seriously.

I made an error, it wasn't deliberate.

So tell us how many years is it delayed for?

jln115:
Do you have amnesia? Didn't you state how long it's behind schedule?

Now why don't you man up and admit you blatantly lied!!

I want you to tell me, so that in the future, I'll be certain.

jln115:
You didn't ask me how many years it was behind....... Next time don't make spurious claims

That's why I'm asking now, how many years behind scheduled is the Badger IFV?

jln115:
Literally what I said!!!



Next time don't lie so blatantly!!!

Why don't you tell us how many years behind schedule?

I said it is over 3 years behind, your government agrees with me.

jln115:
When did I make spurious claims mate? and maybe your memory is foggy but I never specifically talked about Denel??

The Badger contract which you claimed wasn't delayed.

We all know Denel is coma awaiting the final nail!!

jln115:
mmmmmm.........

When next you make spurious claims.

The Hoefyster project for new Badger infantry combat vehicles for the South African Army is the biggest threat to Denel’s financial stability, board chairperson Monhla Hlahla has said.

In 2018 Denel formally indicated to Armscor it cannot complete the project within timescales, specifications or budget and requested a reset of the contract.


This means the programme is years behind schedule.

INTERNAL SECURITY: NAF TO DEPLOY UCAVS, CONSTRUCT RUNWAY IN GUSAU AS GOVERNOR MATAWALLE COMMENDS CAS FOR EFFORTS TO RID ZAMFARA, OTHER NORTHWEST STATES OF ARMED BANDITRY

As part of efforts to further boost the effectiveness and efficiency of air operations in the fight against armed banditry in the Northwest of the Country, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is set to deploy 4 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (UCAVs) as well as construct a runway and ancillary facilities for the UCAVs in Gusau, the Zamfara State capital. The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, disclosed this today, 5 November 2020, while on a one-day operational visit to Gusau to inspect the site for the proposed runway and other facilities, which are expected to serve as the Northwest UCAV Base for the NAF. The visit, which began with a courtesy call on the Zamfara State Governor, Dr Bello Mohammed Matawalle, also afforded the CAS the opportunity to inspect some facilities at NAF Base Gusau.

Speaking during the courtesy call at Government House Gusau, Air Marshal Abubakar, while profoundly thanking the Government and good people of Zamfara State for their support and hospitality to the NAF since the establishment of the 207 Quick Response Group (207 QRG) in the State, expressed satisfaction with reports that NAF personnel operating under Sector 1 of Operation HADARIN DAJI had been performing their assigned tasks professionally, in synergy with other security agencies, whilst also ensuring cordial relationship with host communities. He disclosed that he was in Zamfara State at the instance of the Commander-in-Chief (C-in-C) of the Armed Forces of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari, who had authorized the construction of a runway and ancillary facilities in Gusau for the deployment of 4 newly acquired UCAVs to cover Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi and Katsina States as well as parts of Kaduna State.

[b]While highlighting the capabilities of the UCAVs, the CAS noted that the unmanned aircraft could remain airborne for up to 26 hours providing persistent presence over areas of interest. He revealed that the four UCAVs were part of the 8 UAVs recently acquired by the Federal Government to enhance the Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) as well as strike capabilities of the NAF not only in the fight against armed banditry in the Northwest and North Central but also in counterinsurgency operations in the North East. He revealed that 2 UCAVs were to be deployed at the newly established 203 Combat Reconnaissance Group in Gombe and the 2 others at the Air Task Force, Operation LAFIYA DOLE Headquarters in Maiduguri. He added that these were in addition to the 22 brand new aircraft already acquired by the Federal Government for the NAF in the last 5 years, along with the 19 additional aircraft being expected before the end of the second quarter of 2021. The CAS noted that these additional aircraft included 12 x A-29 Super Tucano attack aircraft, 3 x JF-17 Thunder Fighter Jets, an additional Mi-171E utility helicopter as well as 3 special missions aircraft that are expected to be handed over to the NAF from NIMASA for maritime air operations.

Speaking further, Air Marshal Abubakar revealed that about 195 NAF personnel were undergoing various ground and aircrew training in 9 different countries across the world to ensure that as soon as these additional aircraft arrive Nigeria they would be effectively and efficiently utilized to further enhance the security of Nigeria and Nigerians in the various theatres of operation. He further disclosed that, while the main purpose of the new runway facility being constructed was to service the UCAVs, other aircraft could equally use the airfield once completed. He however noted that the deployment of the new UCAVs as well as the personnel to man them would require the emplacement of additional infrastructure at the NAF Base, [/b]which would undoubtedly require additional land. He therefore appealed to the Governor to provide the additional land for the NAF. The CAS ended his remarks by encouraging the Royal Fathers and Spiritual Leaders present at the event to support the NAF and other security agencies by providing intelligence which, he said, was critical to the effective conduct of operations in sub-conventional warfare scenarios like armed banditry. He noted that such information would always be treated with utmost confidentiality and further cross-checked for accuracy before use.

In his response, Governor Matawalle appreciated President Muhammadu Buhari for swiftly responding to the cries of the people of Zamfara and acceding to their request for additional facilities that would enhance the security of the State. He stressed that Zamfara State would remain eternally grateful to the C-in-C for authorizing the construction of the runway as well as the deployment of the UCAVs to Gusau. He equally thanked the CAS for the speedy action taken to commence implementation of the project, whilst also commending him for the unwavering commitment shown by the NAF and the tremendous contributions made by the Service in dealing with the menace of armed banditry. The Governor emphasized that security was not the exclusive responsibility of security agencies but required the involvement of every member of the society. He therefore urged the people of the State to heed the CAS’ call by providing useful intelligence to security forces.

Speaking further, Dr Matawalle said the Zamafara State Government, while continuing to apply both kinetic and non-kinetic means in dealing with security challenges in the State, would continue to exhibit zero tolerance for any subversive elements who provide information or safe havens to bandits or support their operations in any way. He noted that it was auspicious that the CAS’ visit coincided with his meeting with Royal Fathers and Spiritual Leaders in the State, which had been convened to further galvanize their support for the Government towards dealing with the issue of armed banditry in Zamfara State. While assuring the CAS of the State Government’s continued support, the Governor gave immediate directives for the provision of additional land to the NAF.

The CAS, who was accompanied on the visit by the Air Officer Commanding Special Operations Command, Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Charles Ohwo as well as the NAF Chief of Logistics, AVM Mohammed Yakubu, and other senior NAF officers, was thereafter conducted by Governor Matawalle on a tour of the land allocated by the Zamfara State Government for the runway project.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
5 November 2020

Lurker4Long:
Come now this is getting tedious. Australia v Indonesia, whom will US prioritise?

And I see you've still not bothered to explain this:

Let's agree to disagree.

Lurker4Long:
A certain US ally called Australia, with whom Indonesia has been at odds for a long time now.

Indonesia is a US ally in the Indo-pacific region.

You have not told us why the SU-35 fighter deal was blocked.

Lurker4Long:
Unlikely, considering how long it will take before the last Tucano is delivered. Also, the 3 RD-93 engines for the JF-17 were delivered early 2018, after CAATSA and with no waiver being necessary.

What some are over-looking is that outside of Europe, CAATSA specifically says Russian exports will be blocked if they threaten US or allies national security. That's why the list of countries have been able to buy, without applying for waivers.

Look, I don't know the reason for the delay, but facts available right now make a nonsense of the sanctions excuse.

Whose National Security is Indonesia threatening with the proposed purchase of SU-35s from Russia?

President Muhammadu Buhari gave the nod for the rescue operation by American Special Forces who stormed a location in Nigeria to free Philip Walton, the American hostage who was kidnapped in the Niger Republic in a cross border attack by motorcycle-riding bandits.
Daily Trust got additional exclusive details of what transpired from an impeccable intelligence source.
Reports at the weekend showed that the American, who was living in the village of Massalata near Birnin Konni in the Niger Republic, was snatched from there by one of the many kidnap gangs based within Nigeria.
United States security officials sought for Nigeria as soon as they got a report of the kidnap of their citizen in the border region between Nigeria and the Niger Republic where incidents of cross border kidnaps have been previously reported.
The Americans got back to Nigerian security officials as soon as contact was made by the kidnappers who called the kidnapped person's family with a Nigerian number. The kidnappers were said to have demanded a huge ransom.


Daily Trust learnt that Nigerian intelligence officials quickly traced the number to a specific place in a village in Illela Local Government of Sokoto State.

With the American elections just days away and the polls showing him behind the Democratic Challenger, Joe Biden, President Trump is under pressure to show a positive side of American power.
It is no surprise that American security officials put in requests to Nigerian officials and followed up with phone calls by Mike Pompeo, the American Secretary of State. Nigerian officials in turn reviewed the situation and advised President Buhari to approve the request of the Americans to cross the border from Niger and mount a rescue operation.

Lurker4Long:
Let me try this in simple terms:

Kabe: we haven't received 6 choppers because of sanctions against Russia

Me: But Nigeria and other countries have received Russian equipment since sanctions, so there must be another reason

Kabe: But the ambassador said it's sanctions

Me: Do the sanctions not apply to the other materiel received by Nigeria and others?

Man, this post you made shows you understand nothing about the politics of buying arms.

Indonesia backed out of buying SU-35s from Russia for what reason exactly?

You know what, It's futile continuing this discussion with you.

Lurker4Long:
I see you're pretending that list of countries who received Russian equipment since the sanctions, doesn't exist.
The evidence stares you in the face, but "the ambassador said..."

Lol, what evidence are you talking about?

Can you enlighten me, so we are on the same page.

Lurker4Long:
Strange sanctions these...that Nigeria can receive some Russian equipment but not others

The Russian-Nigerian defense cooperation is complicated due to sanctions targeting Russia, the ambassador noted.

Nigeria Has Received 6 Russian Mi-35M Helicopters, Expects 6 Remaining - Ambassador


"Sanctions against Russia do not help this cause, as you can imagine. Russia is a reliable partner that always fulfills its obligations. We will definitely agree on the supply of the remaining Mi-35 helicopters, and then we will see what we can do as part of the law," Ugbah added.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sputniknews.com/amp/world/201910111077019504-nigeria-has-received-6-russian-mi-35m-helicopters-expects-6-remaining---ambassador/

Lurker4Long:
Strange sanctions these...that Nigeria can receive some Russian equipment but not others

If you have evidence, please post it.

It makes no sense that when you are asked for proof to support your claims, you resort to sarcasm.