₦airaland Forum

SuperSixSeven:
Understand this: There is nothing such as a military grade tyres.

Somehow I don't understand what you are trying to say. Even your village mechanic can fix a flat tyre. The condition of this particular vehicles can hardly be estimated from the pictures you have uploaded. A flat tyre is at least no indication that supports your claim.

I strongly believe that the NA should be able to maintain any MRAP with very few resources and off the shelf spare parts - if they just want to.

No offense, but this is a ridiculous comment.

Eurosatory 2018: MICHELIN presents its latest military tyres


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u732xuJHhtA

SuperSixSeven:
Understand this: There is nothing such as a military grade tyres.

- if they just want to.

This is what a Run Flat insert is.

It allows military vehicles move for miles even if they are punctured by bullet rounds.

SuperSixSeven:
Understand this: There is nothing such as a military grade tyres.

Somehow I don't understand what you are trying to say. Even your village mechanic can fix a flat tyre. The condition of this particular vehicles can hardly be estimated from the pictures you have uploaded. A flat tyre is at least no indication that supports your claim.

I strongly believe that the NA should be able to maintain any MRAP with very few resources and off the shelf spare parts - if they just want to.

No offense, but this is a ridiculous comment.

Eurosatory 2018: MICHELIN presents its latest military tyres


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u732xuJHhtA

Nigerian made UGV armed with an array of HMGs.

Also a vehicle that looks like it can be used for storming buildings.

Nigerian made bomb disposal robots.

kabe1:
Please read carefully and point out to me where I said RUN FLAT TYRES?

SuperSixSeven, I'm waiting for you.

SuperSixSeven:
Are you serious here, Kabe1? (i dont think so) What are military grade tyres? Run flat tyres - how many do you need??

Please read carefully and point out to me where I said RUN FLAT TYRES?

Lurker4Long:
In the interest of intellectual honesty, here's the full defenceweb article, without the selective edits:

SAAF Gripens grounded

The South African Air Force’s (SAAF’s) Gripen fleet is temporarily grounded, with no aircraft serviceable, 24.

This is a funny post.

Is the report in my post fabricated or did you dispute any of them?

Did I not post a link, cite a source where I got report?

Why are you such a cry baby? It's embarrassing.

SuperSixSeven:
Weak argument here because of those MRAPs use commercial off-the-shelve spare parts.

A military grade tyre with run-flat inserts is commercial off-the-shelve?

This is a ridiculous comment. It's important we make comments on things we know.

SAAF Gripens grounded


The South African Air Force’s (SAAF’s) Gripen fleet is temporarily grounded, with no aircraft serviceable, due to a lack of funding and maintenance and support contracts not being renewed in time.


It is believed that half the Gripen fleet of 26 aircraft has been cannibalised for spare parts, while air crew have lost currency due to a lack of flight hours. This is compounded by a lack of PC-7 Mk II trainers available.

For example, there are only around a dozen Oryx available out of a fleet of roughly 40. Over the last year only around a third of the Hawk fleet has been operational. Much of the eight-strong C-130BZ Hercules fleet is unserviceable, although two aircraft are airworthy and flying after a major service, and two more are undergoing scheduled maintenance.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/saaf-gripens-grounded/

shadowprimezero:
With so many different platforms of the same class now in operation the same time, the Engineering Corps has a massive logistical challenge ahead of it in maintaining these platforms. NA Engineers wouldn't have been forced to make those atrocious Conqueror MRAPs as a stop gap if high command had planned better

The Nigerian army has purchased vehicles from China, the UAE and Nigeria.

I don't see any logistical challenge anywhere as most of our armour come from China.

The Conqueror vehicles were canibalized from various Nigerian army vehicles. It was just a necessity to provide troops with some sort of protection and not an indictment of the Nigerian army.

shadowprimezero:
While the Caimans and Maxxpros were second hand, NA still had no excuse not the procure spares and train its personell on extensive repair works. Their life of service could have been stretched extensively.

This argument is also faulty.

The vehicles that were donated to Nigeria were not all in a good shape. See pictures attached. You cannot claim that NA should have stretched the life of the MRAPs extensively when the said MRAPs were not even in a good shape when they were donated to Nigeria.

Look at the tyres.

shadowprimezero:
I wasn't talking about repeat orders per se, but NA's ability to conduct deep repairs and refurbishment of existing vehicles that were damaged. NA has done so in the past by refurbishing Cobras, Piranhas, VBLs,Vickers, and other old gen platforms mostly because they were able to build up experience on the platforms and had the option to cannibalise others for spare parts at SVP Bauchi.

Bro, you are contradicting yourself here. If the Nigerian army has done deep repairs in the past, can you post evidence they couldn't do same repairs on the Reva, Caiman and Maxxpro?

This is an example of a deep repair done on the Reva MRAP. This officially destroys the argument on NA repair capacity you were trying to make.

shadowprimezero:
Reva, Caiman and Maxxpro are no longer operational for this very reason.

Blowing hot air over nothing. The Caiman and Maxxpro were second hand vehicles from America. The Reva did not do well in Nigerian military service. If this wasn't the case there would have been a repeat order as we have seen with the Bigfoot MRAP.

shadowprimezero:
Reva, Caiman and Maxxpro are no longer operational for this very reason.

Says who? Can you cite sources to support this?

Even the US military doesn't use one brand of vehicle. How many different types of MRAPs did the Americans deploy in Afghanistan?

Lurker4Long:
-bigfoot
-reva
-isotrex legion
-ezugwu
-Kia
-caiman
-maxxpro
-phantom
-dongfeng
-ara

The NA logs and maintenance guys must have an enduring nightmare with so many different vehicles to look after. Plus, with no economies of scale, procuring spare parts must cost a fortune.

Reva, Caiman and Maxxpro are no longer operational.

100 units each of CS/VP3, Donfeng, Legion and Phantom were purchased.

ARA, Ezugwu and Viper are made in Nigeria.

I don't see how procurement of parts would be an issue considering the Nigerian army purchased vehicles from only 2 countries, China and the UAE.

Nemesis4you:
PF should preemptively offer a couple of them on loan to SF for a extensive spin in the field

I agree. Nigerian armoured vehicle designs have definitely matured.

Proforce PF Viper MRAP

bidexiii:
These babies are too beautiful.
How far mate

You don go enjoy your self finish na!!!

How bodi? Welcome back my guy!!

9 ton Nigerian army PF Viper Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle.

Odunayaw:
Reminds me of the Panhard VBL

It reminds me of the Otokar Cobra.

Odunayaw:
Sweet! Give NA SF a dozen immediately!

Regular troops too.

UPDF Plasan mortar system.

UPDF armour in the DRC

Nigerian made Proforce PF Viper MRAP.

Toju200:
I believe there's a video to this link pls

Will post it as soon as I see it.

Toju200:
who con decorate am like marriage something na

Nemesis4you:
Vsat antennas -> mobile communication terminals

Noted.

Nigerian Navy AW-139 helicopter pilot (Commander), undergoing training on Caverton Nigeria flight simulator in Lagos, Nigeria.

Nigerian made Ezugwu MRAP in 6x6 configuration fitted with PLZ high capacity surveillance camera.

Locally made Nigerian army communication vehicles.

Nimasa/Nigerian Navy ship launched UAVs.