₦airaland Forum

Stormtrooper11:
Absolutely. We're in the process.

Good news!

Stormtrooper11:
We were told to go back to our homes. The motorbike battalion NA arrived. Made some speeches, saying we should go to bed. They left. Arrived home, saw plenty broken molotov cocktails everywhere. Still tensed. Learnt they are coming for us. They have advantage. They are on higher ground.

You need to ensure that you are vigilant and safe.

I will advice you leave that entire area. Do what you need to do to stay safe.

Man get only one head oh.

Stormtrooper11:
My area is under attack. Gunshots. We just ran away from home. People screaming. Just pray we make it

I hope you're safe.

iblawi:
The air force kept getting funds because they keep proving the war can't be won without them and they will keep getting more.

I wish we can get KC-390 and mi-17 in good numbers. I really think jf-17 will come before transport planes because the deal have reached advanced stage and it will be the only strike role left unattended to.

Transport aircrafts are also on the pipeline and the likely type that will be bought have been looked into ( KC-390, C-295, not sure)

I feel sorry for the navy sha but buying 1 frigate, 1 LST, 1 hydrographic ship, etc is crazy to me but when it comes to patrol boats you will see 300+. I wish they can prove why they are important.

KC-390 was inspected by our former minister of defence when he was invited to Brazil.

However Jet engine transport planes seem to me like a more expensive proposition than propeller driven transport aircrafts.

I think the C-130J should be our target, considering we have experience flying the C-130 already, there is manpower on the ground to fly & maintain the aircraft.

I would only consider the KC-390 when Air Peace finish building their MRO facility. They are the largest user of Embrear aircrafts in Africa.


C-295 was also offered to Nigeria through the Air Force, former CAS, S.B Abubakar said he was going to move the proposal up the chain for approval at that time, but we have heard nothing since then.

We need additional MI-17s for real, with these new fighter aircrafts, A-29 , CH-4 & M-346FA, do you think NAF would still purchase additional Attack Helicopters? I don't see that possibility.

I really have doubts about additional JF-17s, but we would have to wait & see.

Nigerian navy has gotten approval to purchase 2 additional OPVs.

As for the Frigate, the Navy said they would lobby to get funding to buy a replacement for Aradu, no funding received yet.

They also said when the LST is delivered, they would place order for an additional unit.

For me, I would prefer NN get a minimum of 1 Frigate & 2 Corvettes.

However let's see how things progress.

Salatavor:
a vivid narrative of our failure... These picture here represents the conventional strike capability of the Nigerian airforce... Just these 3 planes... If any country that knows it salt attack us by hair. We will have to defend our lives and future with these Chinese planes...

You need to spend more time learning basic diction instead of worrying about who would attack Nigeria by "hair".

iblawi:
Single engine F16 or single engine gripen E/F or the single engine J10 will fit am sure.

JF-17 has it role to play and that role can only be fill best by a single engine multirole fighter jet. It's very normal for NAF to go for the latest block available.

Advance trainer aircraft can't fill the role of a multirole fighter jet even if it has 4 engines.

Why I also think additional JF-17 purchases might be in jeopardy is the Nigerian Air Force has received a lot of financing in the past 6 years, and for good measure.

However FG might want to look at funding the Navy next.

Navy would be needing Frigates and Corvettes, also another LST, so funding might go for that purpose.

iblawi:
Single engine F16 or single engine gripen E/F or the single engine J10 will fit am sure.

JF-17 has it role to play and that role can only be fill best by a single engine multirole fighter jet. It's very normal for NAF to go for the latest block available.

Advance trainer aircraft can't fill the role of a multirole fighter jet even if it has 4 engines.

I think before NAF goes for any new JF-17s, they most likely go for a Transport plane.

Our C-130s are getting really old.

GreenandGold:
Someone needs to recognise him as Africa's biggest "unofficial" military reporter. He's everywhere.

Oga Military Africa himself

DSS Special Operations Tactical Unit

Odunayaw:
Who is this person sef

Lionel4power

Indian Navy & German Navy exercise in Gulf of Aden yesterday. Ships involved are INS Trikand with German frigate Bayern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH1QQdfSzKw

Odunayaw:
Are you sure?

Because the numbers of the M346 cast doubts on the JF17 na

There's no way NAF would purchase the JF-17 now. It's very unlikely.

The purchase of this aircraft (M-346FA) would be a very huge boost for air operations, when you add the Tucanos & the CH4 drones, we have a capable air deterrent.

I think this purchase means we won't see Attack Helicopters any time soon either.

Xbee007:
It also carries some of Super Tucano weapon package.

Same number of weapons station as the JF-17.

This really bad news for the JF-17.

It seems to be a very capable platform. I will need to read up more on the aircraft.

Whyem15:
At that quantity and with delivery starting within a relatively short period, are we getting used? It's important to know about this so as to be able to estimate how long they will last.

This contract might have been signed a long time ago, the denials are to prevent uproar in Nigeria.

I would think we are getting brand new jets.

Remember NAF got nearly 1 billion dollars in the recent supplementary budget.

Odunayaw:
Ah! The JF17 must have failed in the eyes of NAF niyen

That's what I think, but we cannot say for sure though.

It means the Alpha Jets can now rest after 45 years in service.

The venerable dodo bird!!!

Xbee007:
24!!!

This is a huge number, it means the Nigerian Air Force simply has no excuse to deliver.

They even purchased the FA variant, you can imagine.

Top of the line aircraft.

JOSCOFELIX:
but this present chief are full of secret procurement. both the nigeria airforce and the company denied. chai fear who no fear nigeria ooo

Secret procurement breeds corruption, it should be totally discouraged.

This is my humble opinion.

JOSCOFELIX:
last last we go invade egypt

I no follow you talk oh!!

JOSCOFELIX:
every well catch fire ooo. Good planing. they should have plan for attack helo and transport helo.
but uncle kabe1, i heard that some top level both retire and active service chief are not happy with j 17 performance . please how true is this. just asking . thanks

This is what @riceproducers was also saying.

I haven't seen any open source to that effect though.

jakeporeshenko:
Incoming

This is incredible news, fantastic purchase.

Africa Intelligence was right after all!!

jakeporeshenko:
Incoming

@riceproducers

Breaking: the Nigerian Air Force has received Federal Government approval for the acquisition of 24 M-346FA fighter attack aircrafts.

Contract agreement for 12 aircrafts has been signed and deliveries will commence this year.


Source: Nigerian Air Force Documentary

shadowprimezero:
Whats up with the metal frame on the RDRV?

I think it's for climbing, breaching.

I wish Nigerian Special Forces use a multirole, multi mission vehicle like this.

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South African Navy Frigate

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Nigerian maritime security assets conduct simulation exercise

South African Special Forces RDRV

BlackBaron:
I think you'll find same levels of vitriol towards Jonathan, so any insinuations my views are political are dead in the water. Borrowing a leaf from the media, I choose to address him as such cos of his increasing strangling of our freedoms. (Old habits die hard you see)

He has indeed provided more materials than most others, however we're still experiencing heightened levels of insecurity.

Haven't seen a defence review before as that, cool. So what's the update on how it is to be implemented or...?

You can read wide I believe, rather than issue conjectures that my opinions are based on emotional outbursts.

IDP camps in Plateau (Reported in the media)
Farmers abandoning farms in parts of North (highlighted by UN, Think Tanks, Media Reports)
Reports of families selling land to fund ransoms (Reuters report, Senators et al)

So, I'm here due to the same reasons you are. We can agree to disagree but this is my opinion on the situation.


Fela kuku has a song for you. Lol
(I dey play o)

It's not even about Jonathan or Buhari, what I primarily disagreed with in your earlier comment was an oversimplification of the security issues, threats we face in Nigeria.

As Nigerians we have an important part to play, it is the Nigerians from our society that go on to become President, Governors and et al.

So if we don't change our attitude towards our country, collectively for the Better, where do you think that change would come from.

Argue with me all you like, but a high, disproportionate number of Nigerians are comfortable committing crime, irrespective of whether they are in government or private sector.

If we don't fundamentally change as a people, we cannot expect to see better security.

There is no government on earth that can provide total security for it's citizens, however for countries like Norway for example only a very, very tiny number of them are adversed to committing crime.

I completely agree that the buck stops with Buhari, but we also have our important roles to play.

JF-17 Block 3

BlackBaron:
I do not understand why Buhari should NOT be blamed?

Can you point out to me where i said Buhari should not be blamed?

In times of win/achievements, it is not Shehu Shagari that would claim the spoils.

BlackBaron:
The Nigerian Armed Forces has a culture of apathy and dysfunction. Over time, this behaviour has been learnt, adopted, increasingly internalised, and passed down generations to the present state of affairs. Essentially, the current crop of defence Chiefs are a product of that system.

Rt Gen Buhari rode to power on the wave of solving increasing levels of insecurity and was one of the major critics of the previous administration with a promise to ‘lead from the front’.

Clearly using a political undertone and using political bias in your argument, but that's fine.

Has Buhari provided the tools the military requires within available budget to ensure that our armed forces have the right equipment to combat insecurity in Nigeria?

Has the President put in place the mechanism to eliminate corruption in procurement of arms, favoring deals instead of black market purchases?

Has the President appointed competent individuals to lead our Armed Forces, with the likes of S.B Abubakar, Buratai and Ibok Ebas?

Has Buhari ensured local participation of Nigerian companies by signing Executive Order 5 in the procurement process?[/quote]

BlackBaron:
Just like a FTSE 500 company would elect/select a leader to turn around their fortunes or steady a rocking ship by identifying areas of weakness. In that time, lack of elements of leadership have been GLARING with Buhari.

All previous failings should have been enough to provoke a defence review and innovative adjustments applied. Human components, updated leadership training for officers, adopt best practices, revamp army culture, recommendations to plug operational gaps, intelligence gatherings, and so on.

So can you explain to me, what this is?

Submission of Report of C’tee on Review on Armed Forces Act CAP 20

The need for the establishment of necessary institutions and framework to meet the yearnings, aspirations of citizenry, officers and men of the Armed Forces in order to lay solid foundation for an enduring and sustainable legacy for the Armed Forces cannot be overemphasized.

This remark was made known by the Honourable Minister of Defence, Mansur Muhammad Dan-Ali, while receiving the final submission of the reviewed Armed Forces ACT CAP A20 Laws of the federation of Nigeria, 2004, in Abuja.

While addressing the members of the committee, the minister stated with delight that the combined efforts of the report of the constituted Committee has contributed towards his dream of leaving a legacy of a strengthened and sustainable legal framework for regulating the Armed Forces of Nigeria.

The Constituted Committee were mandated to critically examine the Armed Forces ACT of Nigeria, collate views from relevant stake-holders and to come up with a reviewed ACT that is comparable with what is obtainable in other developed democracies.

Minister added that the reforms made by the Reviewed Committee will go to annals, of history as a ground breaking efforts geared towards bringing the Armed Forces ACT up-to-date in this 21st century, consistent with international Standard and the best practices.

BlackBaron:
Instead, we are still playing from the same old military era rulebook, buy new equipment and think we can build a successful army when we haven’t addressed the human factor.

https://defence.gov.ng/2019/08/21/submission-of-report-of-ctee-on-review-on-armed-forces-act-cap-20/

The NAF is currently made up of six commands namely: Tactical Air Command, Special Operations Command , Mobility Command, Air Training Command, Ground Training Command and the Logistics Command with headquarters in Makurdi, Bauchi, Yenogoa, Kaduna, Enugu and Lagos, respectively.

BlackBaron:
Let’s not get too hung up on this thread too, but read through the indices, study the dynamics of what NA failures is doing to communities.

IDP camps springing up in Northern states, food famine due to deserted farms, migration from the North, already impoverished families selling up lands to richer folks to be able to pay ransoms. Who should take the blame for this otherwise?

You made claims you cannot prove, emotional outbursts that is consistent with most Nigerians, no research, no investigation, just unfounded claims.

Nobody is happy with the level of insecurity in Nigeria, but to make claims that this government hasn't made the necessary investments, Passed necessary laws to ensure that the level of insecurity we currently see in Nigeria is nipped in the mud is a blatant lie.

These investments haven't yielded the positive outcome that we want to see, but their has been real commitments.


In my own assessment, and irrespective of our political, tribal and religious views, we as Nigerians need to understand that the security of Nigeria is also our responsibility irrespective of who's in power.

I am not absolving this administration, the buck ultimately stops at the President's table, he is responsible, but we also need to do our own parts.

These criminals whoever they are, government or people are from our communities, they didn't appear out of thin air.