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youghs:
If I may ask, what do we need these for? The A29s can perform the role of this aircraft.

We need them to replace the Alpha Jet & L-39.

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*GOC 81 DIVISION NIGERIAN ARMY VISITS PROFORCE LIMITED* …………Commends GMD and staff for visible transformation

The General Officer Commanding 81 Division Nigerian Army (NA) Major General Lawrence Fejokwu has expressed satisfaction and commended the level of ongoing transformation and achievement in Proforce Limited under the leadership of the General Managing Director (GMD) Engineer Ade Ogundeyin. The GOC made the commendation while on a working visit within his Area of Responsibility (AOR) in Ogun State.

Major General Fejokwu said he was delighted with the ongoing expansion in the defence factory which is a sign that something greater is in the offing. He was optimistic that with the state of the expansion and transformation in infrastructure, equipment and general facilities at Proforce Limited, the Company would soon be able to provide more than the basic needs of the military. He stated that part of the reason for the visit was to collaborate with Perforce on how the 81 Division could harness the benefit of having the factory within the Division AOR. He informed the Proforce GMD that some of the operational vehicle that were beyond economic repair would be backloaded to the factory for repairs.

The GOC and members of his entourage were briefed with a presentation on proforce Limited and Proforce Intelligence. The visiting team was also conducted round the transformed factories and some production lines where the GOC inspected some products and materials produced by Proforce Limited. He disclosed that with the level of progress of work and the zealousness of the staff of the Company, he would continue to be an advocate of Proforce Limited.

Responding the GMD Proforce Limited Engineer Ade Ogundeyin expressed his delight and appreciation to the GOC for finding time to visit despite his tight schedules. He stated that the NA and proforce has been working partners for some time now and that the NA is part of Proforce. He noted that with the ongoing relationship between the 2 parties, the Boko Haram Terrorist activities would soon come to an end. He disclosed that only Africa can solve Africa’s problems, hence the need for commitment by various stake holders. The GMD used the occasion to thank the NA for her patronage which has brought Proforce to the limelight of the international community.

Highlights of the visit included the presentation on Proforce Limited, guided tour round the factory and interactive session. Others were group photograph and exchange of souvenirs

MAN1960:
Kebi can you please show an example of fast patrol craft
Am learning

A fast attack craft is a small boat that can fire missiles.

See picture.

However classification of ships differ from country to country.

I had initially made a mistake on what CNS meant by a FAC. In Nigeria we classify the Ocea boats we bought from France as a Fast Attack Craft. They don't have missile firing capabilities. They are only armed with at most a 20mm gun.

We classify Nigerian made boats as IPC (Inshore Patrol Craft). That's the one the CNS was referring to that the Navy has purchased 300 units.

RiceProducers:
I am beginning to come round to the view that the NN acquired them as FPBs but decided on the FCS design to permit the operation of rotary wing UAVs.

I read somewhere that 40 UAVs are on order by the Navy. They must be going on OPVs and purpose built FPBs that can take rotor craft UAVs




Does not really matter I think. These are not fast patrol craft but FCSs. The boats are designed for security and carrying civillian personnel and cargo. May be the Navy asked for that particular spec for their ops, I don't know but they are FCSs.

Nothing wrong in us enjoying a debate irrespective of our views.

It seems the Navy would be getting Fast Attack Crafts.

Africa Intelligence is still running with this story despite the denials from Leonardo


Pakistani option has Italy scrambling to defend sale of Leonardo combat aircraft

The Italian government has embarked on a diplomatic campaign to strengthen military cooperation with Abuja as a means to lock in the sale of 24 combat aircraft to the Nigerian Air Force. But it is facing a circumspect air force command and competition from Pakistan.

https://www.africaintelligence.com/central-and-west-africa_business/2021/08/19/pakistani-option-has-italy-scrambling-to-defend-sale-of-leonardo-combat-aircraft,109685910-art

kabe1:
This is what is obtainable in the Nigerian Navy, don't know what @riceproducers is arguing over.

The Chief of Naval Staff mentioned a couple other acquisitions in his speech at IMDEC in Ghana.

Apart from the Damen boats purchased from Vietnam, we are getting Fast Attack Crafts & OPVs

NNS Kano & NNS Ikenne

Lurker4Long:
The use of that pennant denotes Nigerian Navy ownership, not just operation.
For example, the 7 or so 35m Sentinels delivered by Paramount Naval Systems for commercial Nigerian clients, all use the MV pennant. I'm not sure but I think some of them are crewed by NN personnel, yet retain MV.

This is what is obtainable in the Nigerian Navy, don't know what @riceproducers is arguing over.

Hennynitan:
DAMEN COMPLETES SEA TRIALS OF 40M PATROL VESSEL PAIR FOR NIGERIA
By Baird Maritime - November 20, 2019


Damen Shipyards Group has completed sea trials of two patrol vessels in a series ordered by Nigerian maritime security company SR Platforms.

The two vessels each have a length of 40 metres, a maximum speed of 29 knots, a range of 2,000 nautical miles, and a 140-square-metre aft deck for transporting personnel and cargo as well as for accommodating equipment for firefighting and oil spill recovery.

Both vessels were readily available in stock at Damen Song Cam Shipyard in Vietnam. Upon delivery, these will be deployed by SR Platforms as fast support intervention vessels on a contract with a major international oil company.


Is this the same contract or a separate one?
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat-world/maritime-security-world/non-naval/damen-completes-sea-trials-of-40m-patrol-vessel-pair-for-nigeria/

It's hard to say if it's the same.

However contractor patrol vessels do not bear a Nigerian navy pennant.

RiceProducers:
So these are FBPs to you?. Well they are not. These two are field crew supply vessels for the oil industry. They will be slighty armoured but won't carry offensive weapons. Pls show me the budget item no. from 2018 or 2019 where it shows procurement of FBP from Damen.

The statement from the Nigerian Navy is clear, 2 x FBS, designation/name of a vessel differs from country to country.

A contractor owned vessel would not have the pennant of the Nigerian Navy.

Both vessels from Vietnam and are named NNS Kano and NNS Ikenne.

Show me the budget item no where the procurement of 12 x Super Tucanos fro. America is detailed?

You need to show proof your claim.

RiceProducers:
These ships are guarding oil installations and moving oil field logistics. They are not paid for by the Navy. They are privately owned and to be partially crewed by Naval ratings

You have a habit of arguing pointlessly without any evidence.


Nigerian Navy expecting more platforms before end of 2020Published 2 years ago on December 18, 2019


The Nigerian Navy says it is expecting the delivery of more platforms before the end of 2020 to join her fleet to further boost the Services’ maritime security operations.


Rear Admiral Tariworio Dick, the Chief of Training and Operations, Naval Headquarters, disclosed this on Tuesday in Abuja, while giving the Nigerian Navy score card for 2019.

He explained that the Service was expecting these platforms from various manufacturers from within and outside the country.

“In 2019 the Nigerian Navy acquired some platform to boost her maritime security operations among which are 20 x Riverine Patrol Boats, 20 x Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) and 2 x 25 Man House Boats,” he said.

Dick listed the platforms expected to join the Services’ fleet in 2020 to include, ​1 x 60m Hydrographic Survey Ship from Ocea France, 2 x 40m FPBs from Damen Shipyard Vietnam, and 1 x 43m SDB III from Naval Dockyard Limited Lagos.

https://newsverge.com/2019/12/18/maritime-security-nigerian-navy-expecting-more-platforms-before-end-of-2020/

RiceProducers:
These ships are guarding oil installations and moving oil field logistics. They are not paid for by the Navy. They are privately owned and to be partially crewed by Naval ratings

Can you post any sort of evidence to support this?

Coolliot:
Is that planks of wood?

Yea, it's a type of water resistant wood.

RiceProducers:
These went to a private company.

Nope, Nigerian Navy Vessels.

NNS Kano and NNS Ikenne.

kabe1:
2 units of Damen 4008 FCS patrol boats destined for Nigeria from Damen Song Cam shipyard, Vietnam.

These ships have been delivered to the Nigerian navy.

Nigerian made Proforce Leopard LAV

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Nigerian maritime security surveiling assets.

shadowprimezero:
Indian High Commissioner's recent visit to NN HQ after the recent unusual visit from the Turkish Ambassador. India and Turkey recently lost out on the LST contract to DAMEN. They're probably vying for the new major NN contracts

I knew the visits were quite unusual.

They all visited Navy headquarters to drop tender documents.

dragon2:
Something we have the capability of building here and providing jobs for, is what we are exporting wealth to other countries. .
I would rather spend that money on expanding the capacity of Nigerdock than buying more patrol ships.

The navy said after SDB 3, SDB 4 would be started though.

However i agree that we need capacity to build these patrol ship's locally.

bidexiii:
This is good news for the NN.
But why more OPVs @kabe1, why can't we go for armed Corvettes with some missiles ?

It's good news that we are buying new ships no doubt, but like you i wonder why we keep buying Offshore Patrol Vessels, especially considering that we already have a large patrol fleet.

I was thinking that with the purchase of the LST, installation of Falcon Eye, Nimasa C4i systems and the new patrol ships from Nimasa, our OPV buying days would be over.

It's incredible, how many patrol ships do we want to really own at the end of the day.

Toju200:
plus a 45m patrol vessel from polytechnologies china

Yet another patrol boat?

We really need proper fighting ships, we just keep piling on the patrollers left right & center.

willybaby:
PROFORCE ARA MRAPS proudly Naija... My highlight of the parade

I agree.

kabe1:
I agree with this.

my own assessment is that getting a frigate might not be the best purchase for Nigeria, as speculation is rife that we're getting only a single unit.

For me i would prefer we hold on, instead purchase 2 Corvettes. That would make more sense in my opinion.

Of-course China & Germany would be the most likely suppliers for a Nigerian frigate for obvious reasons, but we'll still have to wait and see.

We can as well kiss this day-dreaming good bye

BREAKING NEWS

Nigerian Navy would purchase 2 x additional OPVs

Worthy of note is the support from Mr President and Commander-in-Chief. Specifically, Mr President has shown tremendous support for our fleet recapitalization effort. Recall, the recent acquisition of NNS LANA, again contract has been awarded for a sister ship to NNS LANA which is the 35m Hydrographic Survey Ship. Also, construction work is ongoing on the LST-100 and we have just received yet another approval for the acquisition of 2 x OPVs.


https://www.navy.mil.ng/2021/08/16/remarks-by-the-chief-of-the-naval-staff-vice-admiral-az-gambo-am-psc-ensprsa-mtm-mnim-musni-fces-mipm-mesp-fiips-fcai-at-the-dinner-run-ashore-in-honour-of-the-nigerian-navy-graduands-of-the-nation/

Chad

Chad parade

Chad military parade

Chadian army Type 59G MBT

Nigerian Air Forec A-29 Super Tucano COIN aircraft.

Coolliot:
I don't think Nigeria would be getting a Corvette to replace aradu.,.they would be getting a proper frigate. I don't think India or Turkey would have a chance, i think the countries with a high chance would he China and Germany.

I agree with this.

my own assessment is that getting a frigate might not be the best purchase for Nigeria, as speculation is rife that we're getting only a single unit.

For me i would prefer we hold on, instead purchase 2 Corvettes. That would make more sense in my opinion.

Of-course China & Germany would be the most likely suppliers for a Nigerian frigate for obvious reasons, but we'll still have to wait and see.

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