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4cassava sticks: are you a monkey? these nairaland people sef na wa o! why are you trying to force a religion on me?

are brain dead . Whose forcg a religion on u?. U seem to hav problm interpretg simpl sentences. Or are d 4 cassava stcks d implements for divination?...
Guy b proud of who u ar.

nnofaith: so god himself must have been created by something or someone!

the Bible states the properties of God which amongst other underscore the requirements for d design of intelligent lifeforms.
Only an infinitely wise being can compose human dna!
If this being were not omniscient he'd b imperfect and still learng and by tht virture couldnt create somethg as preciselu coordinated as a planetary solar system (my gloss).
But the bible says he has no beginng or end. You cant accept ths because man thinks relatively. U can only imagine a being from your background of collectve notions and emperical experiences.
Too bad, a termite burrowed in some sub soil wudnt b able to make sense of Quantum physiques. Infact, all the worms in the earth cant understand the source code of the latest windows Os! Well. Y try. Its beyond them. Period. All u can tell them, is "this is an OS" usg a language they can understand,

if God is a created being then He isnt God, ? And the being who created him is God. And if d being who created God is God, then wu created dat being(if God had to b created!).. The argument degenerates recursively into infinity.
Sorry, the fact tht u r on ths planet shows theres a God. Fundamental principles of life are wanton and evo is to much of a dirty falsehood to even consider.

4cassava sticks: four cassava sticks

ashamed of ur religion!? Boo.
Ths is a faceless forum.
Who really cares who/wat u worshp. * dnt bother replyg*

[quote author=Da-ny-ell]@Kambo, how can you say that they already are the light of the world when their actions prove otherwise? Even the church is becoming secular every passing day (you haven't addressed the remaining ones though). And um..... I know I am not an authority on this issue, I am just asking an honest question since I was once a Christian that strived to live solely by the teachings of Christ and I got fully discouraged when fellow Christians started calling me a fool for applying Jesus' words literally (especially the 'do not worry about your life' part). I still try to follow his teachings though, I just think that some of them might be impractical.[/quote]@da-ny
i blv d bible by faith. No physcl proof of God. Thts wat God xpcts-dats y as an atheists/agnostic waitng for some emperical physcl proof- u wont get. God WILL NEVER GIV U. Jesus said one of d proofs to ths Generation is his empty tomb.
Go and reason it.
I ddnt say, christians are d Light of d world, Jesus said it.
And wat he says stands.
You are not ur fathers child by action only but by birth. But u can go and act contrary to ur family values outside. Christians hav Gods nature in them - wen they bcome born again. - . But you hav to grow because ur born a new born babe.
How dyu grow? By feeding. " earnestly desiring the sincere milk of the word tht you may grow thereby"
exercising: "pray without ceasing". Prayg often. Prayg in d Holy Ghost
resistg temptation: so many temptations, endeavourg to practice d truths u learn in d bible etc.
Researchg christianity: in my experience most christians ar a lazy bunch. They hav lil interest in God or His thngs bynd d superfcial.
Infact, wen christian discuss arise they chnge topics.

"the church is becomg more secular"- i admit it. But the church is as spiritual as its average members. However, the bible is your creed not man. Endeavour to liv by d bible standard not man.
I've been adviced to lie many times but i said no. because i know better. Tht doesnt mean i dnt fall and sin but i hav 2 keep reachg.
Whether church members all do it or not, d bible is the standard.

"i once tried to live d christian life but ... ".
The christian life is HARD it's not for babies,but then gettg into som ivy leagues and excellg is equally hard. But, God will help. You hav 2 b sold out and committed. It's hard because a part of us still loves to do evil,it is d struggle wth this part of us dat givs d friction. But if u practice u'll get stronger.
Sadly, i know no youth livg d christian life around me. Infct, i've com to see dat to unmask a person i hav to tip d money bait or d anga bait and d unfold.

"i thnk som of them ar impractcl"
christianity, isnt about rules and chores. But if u begin practcg u'll get to like d life.
Read good christian books. On d worry aspect books by keneth hagin hav really enlightened me.
There is d power dimension to christianity, the faith life, u shd research this also. Without knowg how faith wrks ur christianty cud b dissapointg. Faith is cool.
But start lil.
Nothg God tells u 2 do is impractcl. Anyway, this thngs r for born agains ,if uve gone prodgl u first need to repent and reconcile sincerely wth God.

4cassava sticks: If you didn't claim to be perfect, then you don't have the right to question anybody's morals including those of Jesus and his followers. Stop being a bigot.

No I am not a christian.

wat ar u?

ooman: Many religious people have asked this question - What do atheists live for? Well, we all have different views, but a general answer is presented in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emso122BNW8&feature=youtu.be

Another religious person asked atheists



Answers from Atheists:

Dave Hitt: When I was around 20 I did learn that nearly everything I believed in was a lie, which I had suspected for quite some time. I didn’t kill myself as I felt more alive, more full of joy and potential than I ever had before.

flagellant: Your question is biased in the extreme and I find it difficult to give you a civil answer. You seem to be saying three things:
1. Your life is nothing without religion.
Speaking personally, I found religious indoctrination so offensive and limiting that I determined to throw it off when I could, some fifty years ago. My life became much more meaningful when I did this: I didn’t have to put up with the superstitious nonsense I was being taught at Sunday School.
2. You find it surprising that people can live perfectly normal lives with neither God nor religion.
3. You would kill yourself if you were to discover that everything you believe in is a lie.
Are you really serious about that? All the 'god’ and 'religion’ stuff that you espouse is so ill-founded that yours is a foolish assertion: there is not the slightest evidence for 'god’ and, indeed, such as there is is rather against it. Perhaps you mean 'the only way you have to describe the depth of your belief is to say you would kill yourself if you were to find it false.’ That’s not much of an argument, though, is it?

Eric_PK: I’ve heard this question from theists often, but I’ve never understood it.
There are tons of things that give life meaning. Having a family. Helping people out. Leaving the world a better place. Part of being an adult is figuring that out for yourself.
I frankly think it’s a little pathetic if you can’t find anything good in life other than religion.
As for being upset after finding out that people have been lying to you for years, most atheists go through that.

Reed Braden:I’m actually happier as an Atheist than I ever was as a Baptist.
When I realized that everything I was taught in church was a lie, I shrugged it off: The people who taught it to me believed it completely, so they weren’t intentionally lying to me, plus Bible knowledge (while I studied it for years and knew a great deal about the Bible) comprised such a small fraction of everything I knew about the world and the universe in general, so I wasn’t losing much.
Also, if you would kill yourself after learning that the divinity of Jesus is a myth, what did you do when you learned the truth about Santa Clause. (Please tell me you already know about Santa Clause.)

George Ricker:In answer to the question you asked, here’s an excerpt from my book, Godless in America:
“... we atheists find meaning in our lives in many of the same ways theists find meaning in theirs. We find it in the relationships we have with family and friends and in the interactions we have with society as a whole. We find it in the joys of creativity, the satisfactions of productive work, the pleasures of sensual gratification, and the challenges of intellectual pursuits of all kinds. We find it in the appreciation of the world around us and of the beauty created by other human beings. We find it in all sorts of ways that are made no less valid or less rewarding by the absence of belief in a deity. All of these things make our lives meaningful. None of them requires god-belief as a precondition.”
Speaking only for myself, I can state that once I had stopped living under the influence of gods and religions, I felt like someone who has just recovered from a long, lingering illness. It was as though I had emerged from a fog that had clouded my mind and made it impossible to see the real world as it really was. It’s a state of mind that I can recommend without hesitation.

Ask The Atheists

Life as an atheist is the best life there is, for only then do you achieve full humanity and exploit your mental capacity.

full humanity.
Full mental potentials.

Jesus: "i am come tht you may have life and have it more abundantly"

Jesus: "and i will send you anoda comforter. Comforter=helper,strenghtner,advocate,teacher, and He will guide you into all truth .."

Jesus: "ask that you joy may b full"

the christian life is worth considerg. Even though, many christians are still growg.

Christianity: ur full potential is to b like God.
Atheism: "achieve full humanity..."

ooman: You are not an accident. Evolution is not synonymous with accidental inventions.

You are the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution, live like it.

evolution , predtermined tht they shd b a man after Nonlife birthed Life!
Evolution wrked dramatically weavg amazg strands of new life until it reached its magnus opus: man and his baboon cousin.
Then slowed dwn. And stopped being so ambitious...
Man caught religion and now the evolution police it out to spread the word..
The gud news tht we came frm monkeys. Share a common ancestry with chimps..
Time is d great cause agent in this case..

Logicboy03: BS.....YAWN

an illogical response.

Deep Sight: Its glaring. But who won't see, won't see.

dat's y d bible calls them fools.
Havg eyes they cant see. Educated to d highest degree they cant think.
See wat satan has fed thinkg man with?
Put nails,saw,timber,roofg sheets travel to d next solar system party and hav grandbabies. Get bored of tht life, zap back to earth (billions of years later, if u cud live eternally) And lo and Behold, chance,randomness,natural selection wud hav built u a villa. With a jacuzzee, central heatg, and wiring! This wudnt happen in a year but after many years as if randomness acquires capability in time. !! Junk and garbage. God help the atheists..
They want to teach (indoctrinate) children with these poo.

Kay 17: Science does not say so. Science does not say the Universe appeared from nothing. And it is contradictory cos Nothing is the absence of a cause, function, object and anything; hence to claim the an absent cause triggers an effect is contradictory. Either its there or its not there.

So your God designer scheme is built on nothing!

enlighten me about d scientifc origin of life,d universe, man .
Anybody wt an open mind will see i ddnt say wat ur insinuatg.. "God designer debate built on nothg..". Empty talk. I prefer logical well thought out refuttals .
Not attaks on personality (if God did ths...) or circular questions.
Nobody is forcg views on u. U make ur choice. Awaitg a response.

Kay 17: Yet you believe this grand design was created from Nothing by God?? Isn't that impossible and contradictory?

absolutely non contradctory.
First, science believes the world came out of nothg. Nothg created somethg- the root and foundation of evolution.
There was Nothg then there was somtin- impossible.
The bible never says there was nothg, but says God has always been , this eternal God (no beginng,no end,all knowg,all powerful) - first created Heaven (his abode). Then earth. He created earth Out of Nothing.. Startg the process of wat wud become the universe with his spoken Word!
He God used a process human are aware of:imagine , believe and not doubt, speak (act). This faith process creates physcal reality.
But for the process to b effective a potent force agent must pre-exist. This agent is God's word which comes out of his mouth.
The life in his words created physical reality where there was none.

Throughout the bible this process is repeated.
To get born again - u BELIEVE in ur heart tht Jesus is Lord then SPEAK .. (BELIEVE/SPEAK=CREATES REALITY!).

JESUS looked at fig tree, disatisfied with it, (BELIEVED tht it wud die wen he cursed it) and SPOKE ("no man eat fruit of you henceforth".. (BELIEVE (NO DOUBT)/SPEAK)..
PROVERBS:18 VS 21 "DEATH and life are in d power of the tongue"
hebrews 11 vs 3: "through faith we understand tht the worlds were framed the WORD OF GOD, so that the things which are seen are made of thngs whch SEEN (physcal reality) were not made of things which do APPEAR (Faith and words) cannot b seen."

heb11v6: "by faith it is impossible to please him:..." . God interacts with man on d basis of faith. Faith brings results. Not fear,not pity.

Randomness generated complex systems (absolutely impossible)
there was nonLife which created Life. (a physical stance tht is unreplicatable. Billions of Experiments to confirm this fact HAVE FAILED. LIFE CANNOT COME FROM NON LIFE).

The creator angle isnt a physcl take. It is a Spirit being with beyond humanly comprehendable properties. He instigated d process.
Designed and built the world.
Infinitely more plausble.
Randomness doesnt possess bias or singularity , hence a random process wud have created more worlds all with inhabited equally distinct beings. But tht isnt d case.
God made man. And God gave man his religious instincts which is y men in all cultures and races seek their Maker. But there is a devil who'll lead man d wrong way or feed man lies. Or try to convince man He doesnt need God but cant quench the God seekg urge in man.

Jesus said, if u hav a mountain (a problem , hinderance) you shud apply the faith teknik and d problem will begone.
Sorry, only wrks for BELIEVERS.
Faith is a vast subjct but Nothg can stop it.
The devil, is so against faith,because once ppl know about it, he will b rendered powerless. Thts y he is so out to increase atheism-, take d bible out of public places, mock faith. But the RESULTS of practicing Faith are INCONTESTIBLE..
FAITH IS COOL. GOD IS COOL.
ENJOY LIFE..

Kay 17: Yet you believe this grand design was created from Nothing by God?? Isn't that impossible and contradictory?

absolutely non contradctory.
First, science believes the world came out of nothg. Nothg created somethg- the root and foundation of evolution.
Randomness generated complex systems (absolutely impossible)
there was nonLife which created Life. (a physical stance tht is unreplicatable. Billions of Experiments to confirm this fact HAVE FAILED. LIFE CANNOT COME FROM NON LIFE).

The creator angle isnt a physcl take. It is a Spirit being with beyond humanly comprehendable properties. He instigated d process.
Designed and built the world.
Infinitely more plausble.
Randomness doesnt possess bias or singularity , hence a random process wud have created more worlds all with inhabited equally distinct beings. But tht isnt d case.
God made man. And God gave man his religious instincts which is y men in all cultures and races seek their Maker. But there is a devil who'll lead man d wrong way or feed man lies. Or try to convince man He doesnt need God but cant quench the God seekg urge in man.

@ logicboy

jayriginal: Exodus 33:21-23

21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

if u question ths , then based on d same bible u shd also know d story of Elisha and his servant who were sorrounded by enemy soldiers. The servant only saw the enemy and was petrified with fear but God opened his eyes after elisha prayed and He saw other beings. Beings in Chariots of Fire more in number thn d physcal enemies.
Point: God cud have opened Moses spiritual eyes to see him instead of Assumg a physcal form.
Besides, these verses prove or
claim tht man is a spirit being livg in a physcl body havg a physcl experience .. And typical man cannot interact/see/explore d spiritual world as he wills.

2. Still on d elisha story, The enemy army were smitten blind At the wish of prophet Elisha.
Point: spirit beings can cause physical effects. Despite they being aphysical.

Iow,some physcl phenomena are spiritually caused.


Point2: not evrythg can b xplained away physclly.
Atheists confrnted with a blind trop of soldiers wud either outrightly deny tht thyre blind or say the troops connived to close their eyes etc or attribute the event to some physcl agent!
(Isaiah 37 v 36)
In Isaiah, there's an angel tht massacred an entire troop of ambushg enemies. The troops numbered about 185 000 yet the angel killed them all in one night.
Point: spirit beings aint subject to physcl limitations. If d angel slew @ d rate of 1 being a second,which is superfast,and his speed remained constant(humanly impossible),it wud take him 128+years to complete the task!! But he did it in 1 night!
I.e roughly under 9-10hrs of darkness. (7pm -5am).

Incredible!?. Humanly impossible. Even mans most advanced weapn cant do this at this speed ,without mess (harmg destroyg othr thngs).


@ human rate. 2 he wud wear out his joints frm raisg and slashg his arms.

Mudley313: Harvard researchers? but how come harvard nor publish the report themselves but leave am up to a satirical christian apologist site to so. looking closer, this article was published in February and says that the journal article would be published next month. It wasn't. well, what's new; the religious always claim things without providing any actual proof of anything. christians, must you resort to lies to try and prove your non-existing gods existence? smh

smh @ god not being able to prove himself in simple english but choosing a long dead language to do so

smh @ bible gods regression from direct interventions and even speaking audibly to people to going totally silent in proving himself

https://i.imgur.com/SeOnW.jpg

smh. Ur denseness to not understand ur constitution.
Body,soul,spirit.
Somtin, u can never know as an atheists.
Smh. Ur ideology 4 a god if he exists doesnt change The Fact ,if he exist. In other wrds, my expectations of how u shd bhv doesnt confirm or negate ur existence. U xpct God to speak to ur hearg, (ur xpctations. Inner model) , He doesnt , therefore He doesnt Exist .. Smh @ ur woefully wrong thnkg.

Kay 17: Nooo!! That's entirely false! In fact most atheists[b] can't accept the belief that a God created the Universe out of nothing.[/b] Stop peddling lies

one fact all must face tht is incontestible is THERE A UNIVERSE . WE ARE ON IT. Atheist thnk it propesterous tht an Intelligent Being designed it.
But no atheist witnessg a far less complex man made system (all human systems are simple compared to the most advanced systems in nature)
doubts tht such system came about by CHANCE.
A car, a computer, a matress, a bottle, look around u , u see human artifacts, and some systems. U may never see d designer of ur phone/laptop/computer but u never question how they were made.
But, using d same logic on a system much more complex more intricate so advanced tht scientsts worldwide are stretched in pondering it , displayg amazing precision and order , seems SO STUPID ITS UNTHINKABLE! AND atheists work to remove such thnkg from our social system.

The bible sums it up with a sentence. "the fool says in his heart there is no God".

musKeeto: No, it wasn't. And I don't fear death, btw. What is there to fear? For some though, it could be the fear of the unknown.


Life is purposeless, the earth will keep spinning if all life. But man has an innate ability to create his purpose and experience love, joy, happiness.. Or do you think atheists do not possess the capabilities to experience these?


Na. It's only logical to point out that fear of death isn't exclusive to atheists.

based on absolute stance on some issues , d illogicity of some outcomes (human bhvr) , contradicts the proposed models (e.g life is purposeless).
Man has innate (inbuilt) drive to be productive. Bt man is a cosmic mistake? A fluke . With a purposeless future...
Other organisms of lesser intelligence also display purposefulness: ants,bees, beavers , falcons to name a few.
They display organzation and order, and direction. If man and organisms possess purposefulness then it is in them as a constituent property and not somethg Man tot up. If randomness injected purposefulness in man then randomness displays will,choice and discrimination . First in creatg only 1 class of being man vastly mor intelligent thn all other class of beings. A random process shd produce beings with different shades of properties but the nearest class of being to man in intelligence is objectvely speakng a m.oron.
This is impossible. Logically and mathematically.

If man is d product of a meangless and purposeless system, he shdnt hav a highly develped nonphyscal system- emotions. He shdnt also hav a predisposition to religion..
He shud also display vast variations in lifespan instead of all humans hoverg around a preset max limit (100+ ) . Since man is d most complex product of a random process, with incomparable intellect, bestowed by d random process, he shd commensurately hav longer life thn a tree or a turtle..

There's no physcl combination of non living thngs tht can create a livg thg...impossible. Which is d barefaced option left to believe if there is no God.

4cassava sticks: Id[color=#000000]io[/color]t, I am a theist and there is no law that says that only atheists have the right to insult.

Do you understand the meaning of universal? there are still ibo people like muskeeto arguing that they are biafrans. Does that mean that it is not universally accepted that ibos are nigerians?

i understand d meang of universal , how does it make my statement, Illogical?
There's an appeal against incivility by d Mods. In ur reply shw my error and giv corrction , if itheres an error.

Logicboy03: See liar......religious people are the biggest liars on earth!

Produce one scientific paper that claims that evolution is false- the theory is false.

Liar.....back up your claims now

Leadg q. U shd say provde a link to credble sources provg tht many scientists debunk and reject the evolution theory...

musKeeto: And atheism has nothing to do with science. It's a philosophical stance on the existence of God.. Even if some scientists reject evolution, some atheist also do not accept it(or even bother, like in my case) while some theists do believe in it..

Personally, the origin of the universe doesn't really bother me. The more we ask, the more we will ask...

really.
But d thrust of intellectual refuttal of God is provded by evolutionary propositions, among others. Evo is a main thrust. Ur philosofcl stance demands physcl evidence infact u dnt blv cuz of lack of physcl evdnce provg d exstence of God.

4cassava sticks: erhm. . . .evolution IS a universally accepted scientific theory. Go and read a book ignoramus

stp actg like an atheists endg evry sentence wth an insult. Or ar u 1.
U dnt know wat universal means or wat acceptance means.. Or u ar unaware of d counter debates in d scientifc community.

4cassava sticks: Atheism is the humongously stupid idea that whole universes can magically pop out of nowhere.

I have never seen anything that beats that kind of foolishness.

i tell u. Of all ditches to fall into it has 2 b d undiguised glaring unmistakable pit of a barefaced un feigned blatant in-your-face Lie. Evolution isnt even a universally accepted scientific theory , many scientist reject it.

[quote author=Da-ny-ell]So far, no one has come out to explain how Jesus' teachings have been put into practice in their everyday lives.[/quote]Explain to you!? ar you their judge.. go to church or read a good christian book and yu'll have som (documented) examples.

how many christians lifestyle can you observe at anytime!? . Anyway, i'll concede that finding a true christian is hard.
very rare. maybe. incase , you decide to convert to christianity, the bible has got to b ur behaviour shaper not
the actions of your fellow church members.

[quote author=Da-ny-ell]* In another part, Jesus told his disciples
What this means is that followers of Christ are supposed to be unique individuals that every other person would try to emulate but we all know that isn't the case with Christians. There is absolutely no difference between a Christian and an unbeliever, the only thing is that Christians try to cover up their real behaviours with pretentious self-righteousness and arrogance.[/quote]you subtly subverted the meaning of what Jesus said. Jesus didnt say , christians are suppose to be the light,
He said "You are..." ,christians are already light.
They are already , not trying to light. The task is letting the light out.
in anoda verse he says "Let your light so shine....".
You can have a car but still trekk. that doesnt mean you arent a car owner.

musKeeto: Heb. 5:7
7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear...

some versions use the word "fear". But that doesnt mean - fear of death, gripped by terror.

here are other versions:

" NIV: " ... and he was heard because of his rverent submission."

LB: ".. And God heard his prayer because of his strong desire to obey him at all times".

But notwithstanding,
your argument was out of point.
Y should an atheist who doesnt believe in God fear to die?
He will afterall become matter, life is purposeless and aimless. man creates his own luck etc
so drawing the Jesus example to answer an inconsistent behaviour is just illogical.

Logicboy03: ehem sir,

We are talking about a being that lives. Being outside time is meaningless and absurd. If God is outside time, god can not think or have thoughts. Your thinking is based on time one successive thought after the other.....


Have you seen an invisible animal with such power?

because in your small mind you know the boundaries of possibility.?!
The scientists in research labs all over the world are still learning still discovering..
yet you make absolute statements. YOu dont know enuff.
That's Y HE saves you all the trouble by simple stating the facts in the B-I-B-L-E.
and gives the HOLY SPIRIT TO guide you into more truths.

Logicboy03: Your thinking is based on time one successive thought after the other.....

Einstein said time is a dimension.
so Time is a phenomenom like gravity. For this physical world.
YOu also assume that GOD shares same properties as physical Man, and therefore
subject to the same limitations on man.

musKeeto: Why was Jesus afraid to die?

unsubstantiated. provide a verse.

ooman: that shows how much atheism can make one productive

similar counter arguments could be made for christianity. so these argument is invalid.
But i do see that , God reserves the best for himself. This is a trend even in world history.
America , as a nation founded on christian principles , has affected more nations on earth than any other nation.
entertainment,education,the internet, - all has the American stamp on it.
The software seun used to create this forum, has american marking all over.
So the greater credit should be given to the creator of the engine that run's NL.
On the technological feat bases, seun,is a strategic and proactive user. mean while in the software world,
accolades go to the innovators. seun doesnt fall into that category.
e.g
zuckerberg - co wrote facebook . technical maverick.
stall man -
google -
gates,Bill -
etc - all these guys built the technology that brought them fame. not just download a software, tweak it,reconfigure and deploy.
so think before lumping..

However,that said, credit should be given to whom credit is due.
seun has done a great job starting NL.
other christians/non atheist have also done great jobs starting something.. . it cuts both ways.

manmustwac: @post
I sometimes wonder why is it that an atheist who are just a small minority in nigeria happens to be the person who owns the most popular forum in nigeria?

proves that the market place for large discussion forums is small. The nigerian market cant absorb more than one large site. Nigerians also think typically, e.g everybody raves over BB, when in other countries its not even the rave.
Nairaland, has taken almost 10 years to gain 1million members.
In the U.S, they're countless forums like NL, all drops in the bucket.

Biblically, God says what you sow is what you reap..
and God bless the wicked and the righteous. if you work hard , you'll eat the fruit of your labor, God isnt unjust, he doesnt need you to worship him to allow you enjoy ur labour.

Soloblincus: I was in d bathroom wen i heard a male voice say ''there is only one way'', it did not say jesus. Initially, i thought some one was trying to trick me back into theism, so i quickly opened d door bt nobody wuz there but d voice came from d ceiling and the only other person at home was my mum. I remember concluding dat my mum might have planed it to lure me back to her church. But till date, dat experiece still remains a mystery. A friend of mine said dat i must have been stressed out and heard noting but i know wat i heard.
When i was 'born again', some of my prayers were nt answered, others were, though i did nt jst wait 4 god, i made efforts.i remember oneday when i was about 10yrs old, i was hoping that nepa restores power to enable me watch a favourite program on tv. Two mins b4 d start, i remembered matt 7:7, and i prayed, as soon as i said amen, power was restored. That was one of the tins dat made me strong in faith in d begining, but honestly i never got such a fast 'answer' again.
In all, i feel there is a God, though i dont understand him and can't proof his existence but i am 200% sure he is not jehovah neither is he allah or any of these man made bosslike characters.

interestg story. Hope u find d truth in d end. ask d one thru God (ur sure exists to lead u to him).

ooman: scared of being burnt alive by xtians of muslims.

y shud he b afraid 2 die. After all, "there is no God no eternity no Hell 2 go to . Just nothng ... "

kola oloye: What are you insinuating?

he is insinuatg,nay proving, tht the Bible and your koran expound diametrically opposite ideologies , hence , they are not from d same inspirational source. Source= spirit being.

SeanT21: @black

"Then Jesus said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

Thomas said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." John 20.27-29"

Jesus never rebuked anyone for doubting,only for refusing to consider the evidence" Doubting is not a sin. Deep Down I don't blame U for doubting.After all you did not see God walk on the water and you did not see him raise the dead,etc.

Read and Study THE BIBLE is the only answer to your problem!!

Ask God to sustain your faith

dont misinterprete scriptures. Doubting is unbelief and it angers God. Never ever quip this nonsense again.
The children of isreal cudnt enter d promise land because of their "unbelief". The Bible calls unbelief "evil".
Jesus wasnt physically present wen Thomas doubted but on appearg he Rebuked thomas for doubtg the testimony of his resurrection Without any physical evidence. Wats dat drivel about "refusg to doubt the evidence"?