This is wat happens wen ppl exalt d wrds of one mog over d wrd of God in d bible. They set themselves up for deception and delusion.
A 6 yr old cud hav called of his cheap bluff by pointg him to d wrd but ppl are moronic they like being decieved.

Marraige in the NT is to be btw light and light (two believers) not light and darkness (darkness = unbelievers) but even then, this is d general will of God its broad. In individual cases God could have a more specific will,but it will never violate his general will. E.g among christian suitors God may tell a lady tht her intended choice is not His will for her. She can ignore God's voice and go ahead but she'll regret in d long run. Y? She chose d wrong man.
Yes,he was a christian or claimed to b but GOD knows the future and knows the BEST man for her .
But God doesnt force his will on ppl. If the christian goes ahead and disobeys God's leadg God will only be able to bless use and prosper them only to a limited extent but not to the fullest extent tht wud hav been d case if the christian was fully and completely in His will.
Some blessgs God has ar directly attached to His will and plan 4 d person in question so if d person fails to reach that level he wont enjoy the rewards. E.g if God told abraham to marry sarah as a young man and abraham went 4 a fertility test and discovered sarah was barren and reasoned tht he wouldnt be a grandpa at age x etc and did the "wise" thing , ditched d barren damsel for another contender, he cud hav acheived his goal and God wud hav blessed him as much as He cud but abraham wud never hav been as blessed and prosperous (i dnt mean riches per se) as he cud be outside God's will for his wife: sarah.
He wudnt b d father of many nations,he wudnt b a patrairch,
he wudnt b the father of isreal,
he wudnt b d iconic example of faith, God wudntve established his covenant with him but wud hav to go in search of some1 else.
etc.
He cudve been rich and had many children and thts it.
The wrst of all is abraham wudnt know wat he's lost by not obeyg God's will for a partner.
In summary there's a general will and a specific will of God. The specific is always in harmony with d general but is prtculr to d indvidual in question. Both are needed to enter into d perfect will of God where d best of his blessings are and it applies to marraige too.
Anoda example, isaac was in a barren land, egypt was thrivg economically, coomon sense and reason suggested tht isaac relocate "abroad". Isaac was about to until God spoke to him. God's suggestion looked and sounded foolish - to d rational mind - but Isaac foolishly obeyed God, this obedience ushered Isaac into God's perfect will for his business location, and as a result of Isaac being in d perfect will of God for his business site He reaped supernormal profit. He sowed in the land and in one year reaped a hundred fold. Not one fold or two fold or ten but a hundred . Two fold wudve been a hundred percent returns, one fold wudve been a break even zero returns so a hundred fold return is 10 000 percent returns on initial investment. Cud isaac hav achieved this in egypt ? No. He cudve made some money and been better of thn he was in d barren land but he wudnt be as blessed as he cudve been if he were in d perfect will of God. In egypt he also cudve encountered avoidable difficulties: armed assassins,law suites, accidents etc.

macof:

This is how NL atheist think.

They expect an organic like being living in the sky, sitting on a throne.

Christianised mentality is wat most have, and until they release themselves from such mental point of view they can't be free thinkers hence being fake atheist

As I always say "God" is a term of personification

free thinkers u say, free to swallow d brazen lie tht nothing created Life intelligence and you .
Yet after tht nothing stops creatg somethg again.
Over a truth tht a being created life and earth as we know it. A principle tht repeats itself behind every intelligent human creation .
Wen u use a computer , phone or appliance u know sombody or a group thought it out, designed and manufactured it and created a manual on how to use it. And created customer care support for troubles and issues. Its pitiable tht for inanimate things a person can understand this but applying d same thought to man himself as a product of a creatve process it suddenly bcomes laughable and ridiculous. A more implausible idea tht man and the wrld sprung out of nothg suddenly makes sense and is more acceptable?
Pathetc how atheists think. Really pathetc.

dorox: Most ladies use the description 'God fearing man' as a proxy for a man that is compassionate, caring, purpose driven, and with strong family values. If you can demonstrate that you have these qualities and above all, that you are quite able to provide for the family, you will be fine with them.
They just want assurance that after marriage you will not turn them to your personal punching bag, be sleeping around town like a dog while neglecting the needs kf the family.
I know many ppeople who are not God fearing but have an ambudance of these good decent qualities and are married to christian women.
The sad thing is that there are many bible thumping born again christians that routinely beat their wives and sleep with other women while being active in their church.

the hypocrisy in christianity is unquantifiable.
But hypocrisy is found wherever men gather but christians hav been instructed to know better.
Ananias and his wife lost out tryg to con God they taught they were foolg man.

We need an anti corruption programme tht is water tight. Else the space programme will b anoda leak in d nations treasury.
Besides wats d real impetus 4 d programme. International-metooism? "china went to d moon , america went, now india has seen d big rock in d sky . So therefore naija must visit too?"
america has d budget the depth manpower and curiousity to pursue a space program. Russia has but we dont. America wants to build space stations, is investgatg the habitability of outer space to humans and investigatg inter planetary travel mayb dreamg of inter galaxy travel. They'll die for their vision.
Theyve proven ad nauseam tht they can acheive difficult goals.
Naija nko?
Since democracy presidents hav been promisg constant power and where are we almost 20 years later? The property owners are holdg the masses to ransom so tht the slavg middle class even to leave in slums - an unimaginable phenomena in developed wrld.
We dont need a space programme. We need a pogrom to purge the old rats tht hav entrenched this country in perennial degradation.

We need an anti corruption programme tht is water tight. Else the space programme will b anoda leak in d nations treasury.
Besides wats d real impetus 4 d programme. International-metooism? "china went to d moon , america went, now india has seen d big rock in d sky . So therefore naija must visit too?"
america has d budget the depth manpower and curiousity to pursue a space program. Russia has but we dont. America wants to build space stations, is investgatg the habitability of outer space to humans and investigatg inter planetary travel mayb dreamg of inter galaxy travel. They'll die for their vision.
Theyve proven ad nauseam tht they can acheive difficult goals.
Naija nko?
Since democracy presidents hav been promisg constant power and where are we almost 20 years later? The property owners are holdg the masses to ransom so tht the slavg middle class even to leave in slums - an unimaginable phenomena in developed wrld.
We dont need a space programme. We need a pogrom to purge the old rats tht hav entrenched this country in perennial degradation.

the wrship of GOD is seen as a condescendg grovellg thing by atheists and agnostics etc and so the label the christian God as an ego maniac.
For religious folks its more like dry mechanical motion . No soul in it.
But while true tht unbelievers dnt overtly wrship God , they do covertly. Y because God evokes wrship.
An evocation that is as irreligious as a stutter or a knee jerk.
But they dnt know that they wrship.
If u had an audience with a brilliant scientists and vacationed with a lavish billionaire and shared the thoughts of a renowned stateman and strategised with a brilliant chess champ or general. You'd come away very impressed. Possibly over impressed.
You'd literally wrship.
You'd see how their thoughts are light years above yours and so unconventional tht very few see it yes so elegant in their simplicity.
You'd feel like you've not even strted.
From d billionaire u'd see how he makes money literally out of thin air. How u too cud live in d same house in d same poverty stricken neighbourhood and in time he'd zip past u in income.
For d scientists, you'd marvel at his discoveries. And when he list and shows you his awards you'd want to have his autograph, a pix with him etc.
This is adoration,its worship and its not fake ur so impressed you express it. You treasure it.
So how much more if u met the person who created - put together,fashioned- every part visible and invisible in the impressive ppl u met? Ur jaw drop from impression.
But jaws are still dropping even though ppl dont see God. Jaws drop wen these ppl consider the wrks of God, though they dont ascribe it to Him,
Doctors marvel about the wonders of the human body, many live and die studying just a subset of man, it took extra powerful computers with tonnes of storage to document the human genetic code.
Who made this.
So many scientific and technological inventions are inspired from creation so called nature and scientist are looking more and more to "nature" for more inspiration because so many of what man is battling with are trivially solved in creation. E.g in computers so softwares are being designed to solve problems the way the human brain works. Traditional approaches wont cut it.
Mathematicians obsess over the beauty of an idea . They explore abstractions for years some spend all their lives wandering in the neighbourhood of a notion.
They marvel about its properties . Physicist openly admit that their phenomena in nature tht they cannot formally completely describe. In a nutshell,they marvel at somethg God created in an instant and entire generations still cant think it out! Generations of geniuses!
It took centuries 4 the mathematical framework of "the calculus" to b finally put together without which we wudnt even b havg a modern age yet the concept had been in existence and in creation since the beginning. It was just too rich to b easily understood.
So when an encounter with the Person behind all this marvels is had. A being who creates Planets - with nothing but a spoken word.
Who fixed the sun in space and it has never failed to give light for even a microsecond , contrast tht with Nepa (phcn), who created the phenomena called light and gravity affixg to them exact mathematical properties.
And who has enough intellectual marvels to engage the most curios intellectual. Who imagined substances like Gold and diamonds tht humans wud like them- just the color and d bling.
If any one met a being like he wud wrship Him without even thinkg twce. The wrshp wud b automatic.

Do atheist ladies want god fearg men?

If belief in God is irrational,
Belief in generative self-replicating intelligent and unintelligent something spontaneously emanatg from NOTHING is what? Rational or jaw dropping (fill in the rest).
Sombody sold the wrld d most incredible lie he cud come up with an a select few bought it. Provg tht you can convince som ppl to blv anythg.

Lisp may hav been ahead of its time but it never really caught on. Never went main stream. Lispers capitalised on its obscurity to make it even more racist. But lispers never really tried to market lisp to the main stream market. If they did its adoption rate wudve increased,instead they formed a cult around lisp where initiates were indoctrinated to regard anybody who didnt code in lisp as not very smart.
Too many artcles by lispers carry this tone of elite superiority about them.
Some coders attracted by the mystique of lisp and d arrogance of d average lisp clawed their way into d lisp gang. Well, d rest of wrld moved on ignoring lisp .
Then paul graham wrote his web app in lisp made some money and brought lisp to d limelight again with his essays but he too cudnt shake d condescension out of his write ups.
For one, lisp was too cumbersome to get into. You had to be a decent emacs user. Wat if u dont care abt emacs? Ur in a bad spot. This is nothg short of shabby marketg. All other recent languages made usage easy. Java: any text editor and the compiler.
C#,vb - visual studio + free compiler downloads for any language. Python : idle,
lisp! ? Smh.
Y didnt lispers simply make an easy to use version? They were too busy wrshpg lisp for tht.
How is a lisp program packaged and deployed? Nobody knew.
Lisp has too many silly parentheses , learners complained
. The complaints were swept aside and the idiosyncrasies were justified.
Wat ar all these odd soundg syntax names like apropos,car,cadr,cadadr, speak english man. This was again swept under d rug. A customer knows an inconsiderate seller is bad business. The algol wrld left lisp behind and it withered in its
niches.
Recently some1 with a lil more wisdom re visited the lisp issue re vamping lisp and marketg it properly to the mainstream and contrary to d crappy assumption tht the average c-like programmer is too dumb to grok lisp, many hav been won over and investgated lisp.
This version is clojure. The wrk of rich hickey.
First, he built it on established technology,the jvm. No more ugly routes to usage via emacs.
He, targeted a large group of programmers - java programmers.
He made clojure interoperable with their language speedg up its adoption. If clojure succeeds it will b because of the viral marketg of the java converts. Without java clojure wudve failed.
He made usage easy and accessible. Inbuilt REPL , like python and ruby , and unlike former lisp versions makes lisp more familiar and adoptable.
If clojure succeeds it will b because somebody sold it to the wrld more smartly than the other lisp advocates did.

Notepad++ and the command line does it for me.

start with fp: erlang clojure lisp ml ocaml haskell scala first before movng to oop. U'll never b same .

rutchiekens:

As long as programs are bringing in enough income, there's no need to get a job. It's how successful the products u create are that take u places not the degree.

if everybody thought "money first" we'd still b in d medieval or industrial ages. Scientific advancement and break throughs creates wealth for more people than one hard wrkg person or company ever can.

In theory ur right but in reality the theory fails. To create a signifcant application as a solo programmer takes serious commitment in tim and money. You're looking at least 6 months of intense programming . Larger apps can take 1 to 3 years, solo coding.
In this time , u'll incur production cost - fuel, computers, internet mainly.
Wen ur thru. Next comes the marketg phase: this comes with its own costs. The solo programmer now has to wear the marketing hat.
You'll incur phone call, transportation, stationery, etc costs.
You'll hav to incorporate or register a business name to b taken seriously. You'll incur legal cost getting minimal legal safe gaurds in place against gettg shafted.
Then you'll incur health cost cuz ur physcally exertg urself to sell the product (u can ignore this but it wont ignore u).
Then hopefully you'll clinch a deal. Not every body with a laptop and an idea can develop it fully into software cuz of d costs so in reality creatg products from scratch with little or no cashflow is fantasy. Degree or no degree.
This is where a job is a lifesaver.
U do ur part others handle d rest.
And like i said, in d labour market degrees giv holders greater advantages.

jobs - starring ashton kutcher. Kutcher was the film. He carried the whole show on his shoulders. Mike markurla's character delivered too. Wozniak (the whiz brain behind the technical marvel tht gave apple its edge was not fully developed in this movie. Woz was the technical soul of apple. Steve jobs was d face and managerial psychopathc driver of apple. Nevertheless woz shudve been more developed. Twas a memorable film. After sometime u just forget every other person and focus on d man jobs. A film to watch after the kids have gone to sleep exhausted from being on d roof tops with the avengers and dodging bullets and clutching pillows in "olympus has fallen" (not watched yet) etc. A film to heat ur musing element.

rutchiekens:

In any part of the world, getting a job has to do with what you know or who you know. U don't a degree to work, that's just Nigerian mentality, its only for courses like medicine, some major science courses u'll need a degree to work but not for anything related to computer, people only hire lawyers because they do not understand anything about d law. In nigeria, the only thing students studying any computer related course do is calculations from their first year to their final year and yet by the time they get to d real world its all about CCNA, CISCO, web dev, web security, software dev, which u can learn in one year without going to d uni.

it's tru tht u dnt need a degree but the business wrld isnt static. In the labour market there's discrimination on many levels and d non certified aint havg it easy.
As a programmer i can acquire phd level knowledge in programming all from books but a professor (a professor just has a phd and publishes academic papers) cud create a greater impression and command far more for a similar invention hav scores of colleagues to network with , hav access to international institutions tht would bar non "educated people" simply because of his "proof of knowledge" - his degrees!
Say you're a renowned scholar in computer science phd you cud be invited and funded by microsoft or amazon to pursue a pet project of urs tht is off interest to them.
With no phd nobody will look at u.
All the ppl u've mentioned and their certifcations arent for intellctual wrk. Infact a bsc doesnt qualify many 4 intellectual research only a phd does! Tht's y most industry changers are phd's.
Your computer,laptop etc is built on von neuman's paper on machine architecture tht the memory and cpu shud be together. The programming languages we learn ar only possible because of alan turing's wrk. Etc if these ppl were not thinkg on the theoretcal we wudnt hav d practl reality we hav today. So knoledge matters.

how did u meet ur wife?
A. On the streets. She was passg by and i whistled to her
b. At a nightclub/pub, i was high then i approached her
c. In church
d. On facebook


most couples wud luv to say c.
Most girls wont b ashamed of c.
Its d guys tht ar slackg.
The issue is mor of how to do it rather than the venue.
Keep it short, go straight to d point, then go back to concentratg on d sermon . No chit chattg and frivolousness.
E.g if she's sitting in d next seat, during a pause in d sermon or bf d sermon the guy cud excuse her, "excuse me". She'll look at u and ur eyes will lock.
Deliver verbally and cue her.
Be polite to stiffle the token objection she'll put up.
"sorry , i hav to do this but u caught my attention/interest..."
continue,if she doesnt cut u off.
Close .
"can we meet after church in a less formal atmosphere"
or
"i'd like/lov to meet u later ... "
scribble ur number before her so she sees u action isnt pre meditated.
Fold it and hand it to her like its nothing.
Dont ask her to call you tell her wen to call you,like you'd both agreed on who'd call.
"so i'll b expectg ur call btw 5 and 6p in d evening.."
or
"call me btw 5 and 6 , i'll b free then.. "
Service continues. Total time less than 2 minutes.
If she brushes u off, sit there and bear the embarrassment or ask the usher to find u anoda seat or
wait till servce is over to walk her out and try a second time.

macof:

Jesus was already dead when acts was written so if u want to quote Jesus quote from Mark

wat point are u tryg to make?
Or ur just arguing 4 atheism's sake.
Can u summarize the posters viewpoint and my reply to prove tht u know the direction of our arguments? If u cant there's no need respondg to u.

Kendzyma: Sm1 brot up diz verses last sunday and d pastorz wr nt abl 2 gv comprehensibl xplanatn 2 diz..i want sm1 2 plz xplain it cous its lik a contradictn....proverbs..26:4>answer not a fool according to his folly,lest he b wise in his own conceit...vers 5>ansa a fool acordin 2 iz folly,lest he b wise in his own conceit....
Plz xplain cous i dnt no wich 2 believe

the verses aren't contradctory but u need wisdom to apply it.
If somebody is sincerely questiong u to learn u give a sincere explanation e.g nicodemus sincerely sought out answers from Jesus . Visited him at night and Jesus took time to tell him how to be a child of God. Jesus explained tht except a man b born again he cannot enter the kingdom then elaborated tht theyre two types of birth ,fleshly birth and spiritual birth because nico wondered if he an old man wud enter his mothers womb again.
Nico was a sincere seeker and got a answer and elaborations.
But some ppl ask not out of curiosity or sincerity but to trap the questioned and ridicule him. You can talk urself blue in d face and waste ur wrds it wud b no use on this kind. This is where d wisdom of this verse comes in.
1. You giv the fool an answer tht shows how glaringly foolish his question is. Instead of explaing ur energy away?
E.g wen d pharisees and so on wanted to stone a woman caught in adultery , they came to jesus with a question to trap him.
Stone her or let her go?
If jesus said stone her,he was right accordg to mosaic law but wud contradct his image as a merciful teacher he was known for. If he stood for mercy ,he'd b accused by d pharisees of havg contempt for mosaic law and dishonorg it. He'd also contradct his earlier statement tht he didnt come to abolish d law but fulfill it?
It was logically bullet-proof.
Jesus turned the tables on them wen he asked the one without sin in their midst to cast d first stone?
He answered them accordg to their folly.
Here anoda one.
A student was tired of learng all d boring subjects in school and asked his teacher why he had to learn all this useless things.
The teacher asked him how he wud like it ? Like wat? D student asked.
How he like his hamburger with onions or mustrd. The student got d gist. Stay in school and get a good job or dropout and wrk for minimum wage at a fastfood joint askg customers how they'd like their burger!

On the other hand sometimes u've got to answer a fool appropriately to disprove his foolishness else he'll convince others of his foolishness and gloat in his smartness.
In the parable of the good samaritan. Luke 10vs29: says the questioner wanting to justify himself threw a second question to Jesus . Jesus didnt didnt go into long talk but used a parable to show the foolishness of the questioner as well as answer his question indirectly.
After d parable Jesus then turned the question back on him vs 36 " ... Which of these three men do you think was a neighbour to the man who fell into the hands of robbers ... ".
The man who asked the foolish question answered it with his own mouth :vs 37

macof:

See mumu

Jesus himself said "I came only for the lost sheep of Israel"



the apostles rebuked Paul many times for Preaching to gentiles
so Where's the truth in wat u saying.

Jesus- yeshua was a failure, no one even calls his name, instead we all "hail zeus"

ur fool and a fool like you has no business tryg to construct or reply to a logical argument because ppl like u only know how to degenerate into emotional empty responses.
I'll reply som1 who has somethg better /more logcal to say.
To exonerate urself cud u show where the "apostles" berated paul "MANY TIMES" for preachg to the gentiles?
Acts 9v15 ".. This man (paul) is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the gentiles and their kings ... ". Can u read this? Is it in ur bible?

Jesus died 4 the whole wrld . Not d jews only .
You argue about a God u dont believe in and try to interprete scriptures u dont even understand then make comments baked in ignorance!

Logicboy03: ooh....the branches of atheism must be much worse than the roots.

let's not even talk about the tress

Without roots theyd b no tree. And d root is d same no matter d flavour of atheism.
Bloated Pride and rebelling drives atheism.

Alfa Seltzer: Jesus’ mission on earth was to modify Judaism for the Jews, as their Messiah. In Matthew 15, Jesus said: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” And, in Matthew 10, Jesus told his disciples: “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Now, given that very few Jews converted to Christianity, so few that Paul later put the focus almost entirely on Gentiles (non-Jews), it becomes apparent that Jesus failed in his primary mission. But, not only did he fail to convert many Jews, he also failed to foresee that failure. Remember that in Christian dogma, Jesus is a god and can foresee the future: “Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he (John 13:19).”

Now, recall that the Jews were fully primed to expect a Messiah; they were told in the Old Testament that the Messiah would be one of them, a Jew, and would lead them to renewed greatness in the world. They should have been eager to accept a reasonably convincing candidate.

Further, Jesus was born into, and spent virtually his entire ministry in Jewish lands. He also took special care to act in ways which would fulfill Old Testament prophesies concerning the Messiah. In entering Jerusalem, for example, to accord with scripture: “And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written (John 12:14).”

Interestingly, the Gospels disagree on just what Jesus rode, but all were trying to make the passage fit what they thought the Old Testament called for. John says Jesus rode on an ass, Mark and Luke say he rode on a colt, while Matthew says he rode on both an ass and a colt . . . somehow.

The Gospels also claim that Jesus was regularly followed by great crowds of mostly Jews. For example, Luke 12 reads: “In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all . . . “

Tens of thousands of Jews must have been eyewitnesses to his sermons and miracles. Yet, they were largely unconvinced. Many would have seen him turn water into wine, heal the sick, cast out demons, and resurrect the dead. Why didn’t the word travel like wildfire throughout the Jewish world of this miracle worker, a hero of their own, given all those eye witnesses?

According to Judaism, Jesus was seen as a false Messiah by the Jews in part because he was not an ordinary human being, as was prophesied, but claimed to be a “son of god.” Perhaps those early stories about Jesus and his miracles “oversold” him?

Whatever the reasons, so few Jews bought into the Jesus-as-Messiah story that Paul decided to concentrate on spreading the “Good News” to the Gentiles instead. Of course, the Jews’ rejection of Jesus doesn’t prove he wasn’t the son of god, but it should raise a very large red flag. Something very strange is going on here. Think about it: The son of god was sent to god’s chosen people and they largely rejected him, so god didn’t get what he wanted? How can such a story make sense to anyone?

According to the words of the Bible, it seems pretty clear that Jesus not only failed to convert the Jews, largely, but he also failed to foresee that he would fail. Does this sound like the work of a god to you?

plausible sophistry but like i've said bf most atheists attacks on d bible are peurile.
Please read d books of ephesians and romans. The eternal plan of God was to reconcile man to himself thru d death of Jesus-a man.
So tht jews and gentiles (non-jews) wud b reconnected back to God. The jews rejected Jesus,they spurned and killed him but this was accounted 4 in Gods divine plan because by so doing they opened d way 4 d gospel to b preached to d gentiles. The jews to this present day ar still holdg out on God but Gentiles are being reconnected but in d end the jews will b reconciled back . See ephesians 3v6. Romans 11vs 11 " ... Rather , because of their transgression ,salvation has come to the Gentiles to make isreal envious. 15."... Their rejection is the reconciliation of the world.. "

One statement tht is repeated by Jesus in d new testament is accordg to ur faith b it unto u.
Christians are at different faith levels.
One christian has a disease and seeks medical help while another seeks divine help . At the end theyre both cured ,hopefully,but if d one who had no faith for divine help tried to pretend to believe God , he/she wud hav been in a worse condition because d faith just wasnt there. He/she had wisdom to seek help believg God to wrk thru d human instruments of dctors and nurses.
So on d body gaurd issue if a mog fears his life is in danger he can act in faith and believe God 4 protection or if d faith isnt there or not developed enuff He can do d wiser thing and put overt measures in place to safe gaurd his life by hiring body gaurds.
By the way believg God is wrk.
Its better to eat well hav enuff sleep and exercise and maintain health than believe God 4 a cure to some disease contracted thru careless living.
Its bttr to plan and monitr ur finances than believe God to get u out of debt
its better to drive a car with front and side airbags and strap on ur seatbelts than believe God to reset broken bones after an accident.
Precaution isnt faithlessness but wisdom.
Sometimes paul slinked out of a city at night . Was he faithless? no!
Tht was God's wisdom 4 d moment.
Y do christians lock their cars? Y not believe God all d time to secure it?
Y do large conventions post security men to watch peoples cars? Cuz some ppl there a car thieves not worshippers . But they can just believe God to protect d cars? Yes but their faith may not b at tht level so they hire and post security personnel to gaurd d cars and problem solved. Not d most spiritual solution but it wrks and God fills in d rest. But d bible says except the Lord watch the city the watch men lie awake in vain! So it's God still doing the watching from behind d scenes but God needs somethng to wrk with which is faith!
So if a mog dnt believe God he can do things his own way . Hopefully it shud get d job done.
On the other hand as the christian grows in God God wud begin nudging him to come up higher meaning use ur faith more.
At a point d baby christian shud hav outgrown taking drugs 4 every minor ailment but if d christian hasnt grwn in his faith he'll suffer for it cuz a bigger ailment will wipe him out.
E.g cancer but if all d time he'd been buildg his faith , he'd b able to withstand d cancer. Same applies to this mog's . God may require some to hav grown up higher in their faith 4 protection but if they insist on being babies and puttg their trust in arms of flesh (body gaurds) and horses and chariots (armoured vehicles) and walled cities (secured dwellings) and not in God - they too may one day learn a bitter lesson tht only God can protect.

After programmg for some years the intermediate initiate to d cult of digital procreation will notice two roads and chose which he will follow. The cs road or d pop road.
Pop = plain old programming.
Cs = computer science road.
Both roads hav enuff jobs and challenges to occupy their adherents for lifetimes but so far only one road is academically recognized which is such a sore waste. Some ppl like programming hav been programming 4 years but wen they enrol in university to study cs they tank out. Reason - they hate cs.
Others love to muse over an algorithm and never descend into writng code. They create algorithms like A*, shortest graph path, quicksort , random number generators etc. These are the intellectual purists and philosophers - their time shudnt b spent coding.
And d programmer with fire in his belly shudnt b restrained from producg his marvels.
Point is the educational system has got it all wrong. Trying to make everybody the purist first.
But most folks endure cs programs just so they cud code. Calculus 1,2,3, linear algebra , number theory never gets used cuz they'll b buildg web apps or business apps or apps tht dont need all those stuff. So y learn stuff u'll never use?
Meanwhile , software jobs in industry look 4 ppl who can learn framework x,y,z and already know framewrks a,b,c very well. Can learn languages quickly , know design patterns and software engineering basics and enuff formal maths and logic to not create a disaster in d long run.
These skillset wud take the equivalent time it wud take to complete a traditional cs degree to come to grips with yet without all d unnecessary cs junk.
Most employers tht want cs graduates dnt hav the remotest intellectually stimulatg wrk to engage a true cs nerd.
How many compiler optimization , database design, operating system wrks are beckoning in d job market?
How many compared to build-me-a-shopping-cart,accountg-app,
database-front-end out there.
Fact is even if there was a real sciency app needed, this apps sink to become foundations tht programmers hav 2 build more non-sciency apps for!
Yes there was apple which built the iphone os which millions of developers are buildg apps upon but not the competing os'es.
A programming degree IMO wud b rich , rich enough for the holder to pursue graduate studies in SE or CS (after some upgrade).
It wud be street smart. The student wud learn business systems, lots of programming and one third or one fourth of d maths in a typical cs programme.
The focus wud b on intense programming and software development and design.
Say year 1. Maths , humanities,
year 2. Business ;marketg,accountg,law lots of case laws relatg to business.
More maths.
Year3. Programming in up to 5 languages, creating software systems from scratch:idea to deployment. Using build systems,api's writg documentations, case studies of software disasters and success stories. Pitching ideas to potential investors raisg capital (business education in year 2 wud come in handy here).
Software disclosure craftg etc
lots of framewrk use and creation.
Software efficiency and run times studies.
A bit of S.E - software architectg languages:uml etc
year 4: more S.e , software estimation, working in teams, headg teams , learn 5 more programming languages, work on final year project that takes at least 6 months to complete. Etc
by the time the student graduates He's a well rounded developer but not as sciency as a cs major but not as cheap as a vendor certified coder or 2 year niit/aptech product.
His degree confers prestige and commands respect from the market place and he can hit d ground running right out of school not costg his employers expensive resources in retraing while he realizes a lot of wat he was taught in school doesnt apply and if he needs more intellectual challenge he cud pursue more theoretical cs studies or if he wants more engineerg wrk pursue S.E path or if he is more of a tech business visionary pursue business routes .
It strts with universities recognizg tht cs and programming are relatec yet distinct enuff to deserve their own paths.

"if i cant understand or figure out God with my head,then He doesnt exist.
If i can't create or devise or find rational model for God that satisfies my curiosity then He doesnt exist - to me".

Assumption: if there's a God then i can understand how he works.
Perfectly.
If there's a God,He shud act accordg to my expectations .
My mind has no limits and can understand all things.


Flaw: if there's a God he may or may not choose to explain himself to me.

Flaw: like an ant cant reason out a human being , man may not have the capacity to mentally dissect God - humbling. Cuz He's tooooo much to even wrap ur head around Him.


Summary: atheism is based on pride and rebellion.
Pride, cuz the atheist sceptic assume their minds can determine and reason out all things- given ample time. Atheists think they know better,they read about acts of God in d bible and believe they
cud hav judged situations better than God . Y did God do these y did God do that, did He hav 2 do these, cudnt he hav done it this way instead etc (see i'm smarter than ur so called God).


Rebellion , as a result of overflowing pride the atheistic mind holds God or belief in God to ransom for their willing submission to him. They say in other words if God wants them to believe in Him,he must submit to their terms or they'll spurn Him and (hopefully He'll miss them).

Mr•Olodo:



thanks my fellow Olodo

go try out d suggestions bf thankg.

original king1:


guy so u wicked like this Simply tell him to "Go n Die"

wicked 4 wat? Sombody asks a question and i giv him gauranteed solutions and u say i'm wicked! Dyu hav a problem with d truth?
Pls think bf u post.

Its actually quite easy just persistently live against God's will and u'll hav them. But they dont need to scream wen being cast out.
Consume alcohol everyday for a year wen u get addicted uv gotten d spirit of alcohol. If u work hard enuff the sight of a bottle of beer wud u make salivate.
View porn wen alone , at every opportunity u hav add to it patronage of p.rostitutes,be patient and keep wrkg on it eventually, God's protection around ur spirit will dissapear and like Job u'll b accessible to them spirits. U'll bag d spirits of lust.
Wen u get offended try to exaggerate it,even if ur calm by nature ,wrk up a the anger to wrath this will give the devil place and he'll come in with the spirits of murder unfrgivness wrath anger hate etc
chill out on drugs and mind alterg substances instead of movies.
Act as the (evil) spirits around u lead u.

Hang out with the mentally insane. The wilder the better.
Sleep in asylums if u can .
Like the mad man of gadera in d bible, these ppl ar usually teamg with legions of devils. It wont b hard to gain some.
If u'll wrk at it u'll get there. Seek and u shall find is scripture tht cant b broken.it will wrk 4 u.
Finally, invite him (them) in.
Just say evil spirit of (mention the specialty) please come into my life .(Be sincere wen prayg this). To make my body and mind ur home and play ground. Go around prayg this for a year and ur life will never b same,spiritually.
Come here and share ur testimony.
Good luck.

Has it occured to u tht some of spendg cud be for gifts to others?
Or did Jesus condemn giving also?

Poster ur writeup looks like something from a KEH (kenneth Hagin) book. If so, give him credit.
Plagiarism is evil too.