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Mgbadike80: my dear, most nigerian grads have no biz being in school in the fourst place,even the supposedly intelligent ones are totally clueless. I have a friend who made fourst class and was retained as a graduate assistant lecturer while pursuing her masters in environmental mgt. She was spending wks solving statistic with hand for her research. I suggested that she should use spss but she said that it can't run the stats at the department required confidence level, i tried to explain to her that it could be changed in settings or she use another package but she refused. I then told her to hack up an application by her self since she have been taking classes in fortran as part of her program but she keep dodging the topic, clearly making an A in that fortran class does not translate to knowing her to use it to solve even the simplest of problems. Both her and her supervising professor have spent all their career running stats by hand and are not adventurous enough to try something else. I just collected what brought me back to school and left them to continue in their darkness

Man, can you Imagine the backwardness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
an exploratory mind is really an asset. forget what class of grade one graduates with,
the moment, we shut down our minds to the plethora of opportunities out there we enter
stag mode (stagnation hyper rot mode). And these folks will want to put it to you that you're not educated if you're below their status!- paper wise? - even if it would take
her/them a month to get used to the software and overcome their phobia of the computer,
they'd be so used to the convenience that in retrospect they'd wonder how ever they
could cope with the foolishness to do things the long handed way. if only some people will
venture out and try!!. man, eduucation mean nothing ,paper wise,give me sb who is willing
to explore the new and diligent to learn over some paper guru anyday!!.

i downloaded the whot game (for nokia) but it acts funny in some instances. like hanging/freezing when the card deck is empty also it seems the computer opponent, wins by crook sometimes!! . how can i get the source code to modify it?
the game instructions needs to be re written for better clarity.

** very nice game overall. though..** .

dyu know of any cpp compiler for windows that wont produce bloated codes?!
and is quite consistent.(would like to build this source on windows)
pulled the source from github but with java the generated class files would be
a roughly the same size as the source files. with mingw it runs into megabytes for simple small class files!! wonder how it is on linux!

cediland

lordZOUGA: developing GUIs with qt C++ is probably easier than developing with java.

maybe, but qt's visual contribution made c++ a more viable alternative. visual basics drag and drop easy-as-cheese gui creation has spoiled a generation of vb coders.
qt is a million dollar+ effort ,mostly visual contribution to the c++ communty.
netbeans,eclipse are all following the ms steps and automating the gui creation process.
point: gui matters ,in the long run.

Fayimora:
@kambo Lisp has its flaws but talking about things like "poor GUI frameworks" is quite pointless, no pun intended.

Yeah right. looks and convenience dont also matter right?
java's great strength comes from among other things having a bundled gui framework, and networking library. tell me a programmer who got started on java wouldnt find it uncomfortable expressing himself with a faceless (guiless ) alternative where he has to juggle from a list of unstandardized infrequently maintained often shabbily documented alternatives with variable performances. Think of wat the c,c++,ruby programmer goes thru to fit a face to his apps and tell me gui and similar conveniences dont matter.

.. I read of some few selt taught programmers who've ventured into d darksides of computer programmg: compilers, Os dev,computer graphics etc. There's one listmania on amazn i saved a few years ago , the creators signature read "selt taught . Learng to write a compiler and an operating system" followed by a long list of books (he was ostensibly consumg).is d task Uphill? You bet. But theyre some crazy minority fellows out there!
I also read an impressive list by a self taught Mathematician. The s.t maths guy had more list of books thn amazon wud allow to be listed!
One comment He made in d end of his list was " and now no one will know more thn you do in these fields and if there's a Phd who knows more, You know how to acquire the knowledge on your own" (paraphrase).
Theyre ppl with animal ambitions, tht can commit to a course 4 years!
Author of D programming lang ,walter bright, spent 10 years on a c++ compiler and this is after havg written other compilers bf. He tot it'd b a breeze.
I dnt wanna mention the creator of clojure who spent 2 years craftg tht dialect.

@megaplaza
actually, theyre lisp jobs just like theyre cobol jobs. But theyre in d the dwindling minority.
Theyre legacy lisp systems and lisp corporations and heavily ai projects usg lisp . But in naija , i dnt thnk. To begin with ai programmg may require serious maths/cs credentials beyond knowledge of a language, lots of research fundg etc thngs we dont do here. In naija its all about rushg to make a quick profit the quickest way possible hence reliance on d most widespread tools.

EfeAriaroo: @Fayimora ... very cool. I just feel lisps should be used more. They force one to know more about programming. Example, through my time learning Java I never read about prefix notation, how code can be data, higher order functional programming, or closures, or macros or lazy programming etc I feel programmers need to know about these things.

ostensibly, but in my experience if u program w/o hand holdg and props on really interestg projects tht stretch ur mind, u'll discover , if u also appreciate elegance,
many concepts touted by popular technologies. Y? Some problems demand these new solutions.
E.g if u write som oop code for a while u'll com upon d mutability issue tht threatens d integrity of ur data. As u begin wrtg defensvely u wont know wen ull b wshg 4 lockable classes - the immutability provded xplctly by functional languages.
In other wrds, u can learn and encounter ideas even wen wrkg in isolation frm frml documentations of thse ideas.

Many chrstians avoid NDE , OBE talk cuz they arent educated in it. The bible says lil abt it. But d part of d silver cord on d frst story corroborates with sth the writer of ecclisiastes said . There hav been ample documented accounts of christian obe's . They dnt tally with some of d outcome of this stories here. The point this stories make is , seeing is believg. Since these xperiences are apparently real and negate the bible it cast doubts in d mind of a seeker about d authenticity of d bible.
All roads lead 2 God - cancer victim benedicts account.
YOUR Good wrks , earns you credits. Just keep being good ,Jesus not needed. - Dianne's account.
Etc.
The trend is very clear- to make d need 4 Jesus a laughable myth.
And d bible is very clear tht even "satan transforms himself into an angel of light.... "
theyre contradictions in nde's . Whose is correct? Y d confusion?

Put urself in d enemy's shoes 4 once.
If ppl know fear a bleak afterlife 4 rejectg God and wud consider acceptg Jesus just to avoid Hell ,wat wud u do to make them more reluctant.
1.) make some apparent unsaved ppl have an NDE tht has no Jesus,Hell,judgement,sin in d picture. Make d survivors of d experience live again to retell their story! Winng more converts to your camp (aftr all seeing is believg). With so many ppl convinced tht there is no hell,sin etc just bliss nd heaven, awaitg thm after death, the inclination to live upright moral lives will dissipate , Jesus and judgement will b a hollow myth in their ears.
They'll stay in your pen, deceived all is well.
Deceived cuz they heard some convincg NDE stories.

On the other hand, for those who u cant dissuade frm the truth,u can giv them a palliatve lie:
tell them there's no hell fire immediately after death ,tell them they'll soul sleep. Tell them tht those who dnt make heaven will burn like chaff and b anihillated instead of burn continuously forever. This will lure d sin lovg one who want to hav it both ways.theyll console thmselves wth d hope tht if worst comes 2 worse theyll just burn out.. Not so bad.
3.) you can introduce a lie,tht even if they dnt make it 2 heavn ,in d afterlife they earn enuff credits to eventually tip theyre scale heaven wards. Aka purgatory doctrine..
4.) Reincarnation can b introduced.. A person who believes he'll b reborn after death is less hesitant to toy with sin thn one who knows hell is real.
The whole point is to keep as many in The DARK abt wat awaits them if they continue dwn d broadway. Wen they FINALLY DIE for good,then theyll face d bitter truth-tht theyve been mightily deceived and theyre soul is damned.

Here is one : a dctors account .
"most patients say 'take ur big hands off me, ur breakg my ribs.'
but he was sayg the opposite: "For God's sake, dont stop! Don't you understand! Everytime u let go I'm back in hell!'
When he asked me to pray 4 him, i felt downright insulted. In fact, I told him to shut up. I said I was a doctor, not a minister and not a psychiatrist. But the nurses gave me that expectant look. What would you do? That's when i composed a make-believe prayer.
I made him repeat the make-believe prayer word for word to keep him off my back. Meanwhile, I resuscitated with one hand and adjusted the pacemaker with the other. 'Say it! Jesus Christ is the Son of God, go on and say it!' I said. 'Keep me out of hell,and if i live,I'm on the hook. I'm yours. Go on,say it!'
and then a very strange thing happened tht changed our lives.
A religious conversion experience
took place. I had never witnessed one before. He was no longer the wild eyed, screamg , combative lunatic who had been fightg me for his life. He was relaxed and calm and cooperative. It frightened me. I was shaken by the events. .....
Since then , Charlie has outlived three permanent pacemakers, ..'"
(source:To Hell and Back by Dr. Maurice S. Rawlings)

Many chrstians avoid NDE , OBE talk cuz they arent educated in it. The bible says lil abt it. But d part of d silver cord on d frst story corroborates with sth the writer of ecclisiastes said . There hav been ample documented accounts of christian obe's . They dnt tally with some of d outcome of this stories here. The point this stories make is , seeing is believg. Since these xperiences are apparently real and negate the bible it cast doubts in d mind of a seeker about d authenticity of d bible.
All roads lead 2 God - cancer victim benedicts account.
YOUR Good wrks , earns you credits. Just keep being good ,Jesus not needed. - dr. Maurice account.
Etc.
The trend is very clear- to make d need 4 Jesus a laughable myth.
And d bible is very clear tht even "satan transforms himself into an angel of light.... "
theyre contradictions in nde's . Whose is correct? Y d confusion?
Here is one : a dctors account .
"most patients say 'take ur big hands off me, ur breakg my ribs.'
but he was sayg the opposite: "For God's sake, dont stop! Don't you understand! Everytime u let go I'm back in hell!'
When he asked me to pray 4 him, i felt downright insulted. In fact, I told him to shut up. I said I was a doctor, not a minister and not a psychiatrist. But the nurses gave me that expectant look. What would you do? That's when i composed a make-believe prayer.
I made him repeat the make-believe prayer word for word to keep him off my back. Meanwhile, I resuscitated with one hand and adjusted the pacemaker with the other. 'Say it! Jesus Christ is the Son of God, go on and say it!' I said. 'Keep me out of hell,and if i live,I'm on the hook. I'm yours. Go on,say it!'
and then a very strange thing happened tht changed our lives.
A religious conversion experience
took place. I had never witnessed one before. He was no longer the wild eyed, screamg , combative lunatic who had been fightg me for his life. He was relaxed and calm and cooperative. It frightened me. I was shaken by the events. .....
Since then , Charlie has outlived three permanent pacemakers, ..'"
(source:To Hell and Back by Dr. Maurice S. Rawlings)

^^ it did.
my drive which was dual hosting windows and xp also got into a mess. i couldnt
recover a partition that was created by linux.. i read thru a for dummies book on ubuntu
and gat no help, so i quit. reformatted the system,reinstalled windows and bid linux good riddance.
little quirks like those put off a prospective user .

the very idea of making d computer graphcally driven was popularised by ms. in its day contemporary os'es were text/console drven (cp/m unix etc)
and very geeky. Wtout ths simplifcation its doubtful tht d computer today wud hav been as large as it is.

Linux was and still is a geek toy , too complicated 4 d average lay man. I dropped ubuntu cuz i cudnt get past 'sudo'. Yeah u cud map d wrd 2 simpler english but y d complication in d frst place. Installg software, uninstalling, etc even installg new windws os is such a breeze cf 2 linux. Other oses may b comg out of their cryptic caves but simplicity was never an after tot 2 windws.

python by necessity has 2 b slow. Ruby is slow too. Grails is slow too. Java is slower thn c,c++. I took a look @ pythons selling point, all those list trcks, stuff u dnt get outta d box in other langs , ruby's sellg point also - all those stuff sittg on an intermediate lang (c) wud b makg 4 som slow code. Despite d speed of processors it seems computg is @ a bottl nck and these bottle necks r keepg c,c++,assembly alive. New radcl foundations r necessary hope dna computg and d like as against I.Cs can deliver d much needed speed boost tht will make more intelligent langs and apps possible.

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truthislight: "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and when this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:40-54).
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Learn to read and study the bible well befor believing Satanic deceit.

Let me help you out.. it seems the bible is like a ball of wool and ur a kitten u keep getting tangled up when u open scriptures to understand..

The body isnt saved:
find this verse : "if any man be in christ he is a new creature old things are past away behold all things are become new"
"present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto the lord who is your reasonable service"

The body isnt saved, the mind/soul isnt saved.. only the spirit receives the life of God in it - by the HOLY SPIRIT COMING to make his home in it . (see romans8).

But Salvation is a total package that will one day affect the spirit,soul,body.
Since a christians spirit is saved, and has the nature of God in it-
The Christian's spirit is a faithful guide and wants to do right-but the christians body wants to do wrong
leading to the battles raging in every christians .. see Galatians 5 ..
The christian life therefor entails working in the Spirit (romans 8 v1,galatians 5.)
God is in the Christians spirit and the spirit man has the grace of God (Galatians 6 v18)..
(please read these verses for yourself -- even though u ar wishing for the soul sleep thing..)
Christians/all truely saved people await the redemption the saving of their BODIES (Romans 8 vs 23 c).
if the human body were saved - then they'd be no more death for the christian - i.e physical death..
but that isnt the case.

The human body is also called the "outward man" - think. if there's an outward man,then there's an inward man - your spirit . and the outward man is dying.. (2cor4:16).
that's Y even born again chrstians are subject to aging .. its death of the body..
But the spirit man,the inward man doesnt die...

in light of these you can understand the verses you quoted:

"there are celestial bodies and terrestial..." .
this is a comparison.. used to make the points of the chapter by the writer..
it doesnt say the human body when resurrected will b celestial ..

"the resurrection of the dead . it is shown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption.."
can't us see this is about the resurrection of the human body.it is sown in weakness - the outward man dies daily-
but it will be raised in strength - never to die ,decay rot..
the house of the spirit will b saved. with the expectation of the hopes of the christian in romans 8:23c.
infact, paul says, the christian has been given a part payment of his hope,the gift of the Holy spirit!
so the presence of the Holy spirit in Man's spirit is proof of the promise that his body will one day be
saved!!.
again read romans 8:23.

" it is sown in corruption it is raised in incorruption"
stop to think. which part of man is sown in incorruption - of spirit,soul,body 1thes5:23.
cuz the spirit of man is savd already, and according to 2cor4:16,the inward man,the spirit is not die (corrupting)..
it is his body! not his spirit..
the rest of the verse goes on to show the kind of body man will have wen raised up ..
its the kind of body Jesus had when he resurrected - can work thru walls etc.. an amazing body.. nothing like
the earthly body b4.
this is like planting a seed in the ground,the seed dies but a new seed is raised up.

"flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"- again debunking the myth your ilks believe that man isnt a spirit..
heaven is a spiritual place not like some earthly location hence it is not accesible by mere human beings ,ordinarily.

"we shall not all sleep..."
this is an euphemism for death . same as we shall not all die..
Not all christians will taste death.
i mean physical death.
for those alive when Jesus returns,they shall be physically trnsformed, romans 8:23c, then raptured to meet Jesus in the air.
This verse agrees with the previous verses i quoted : 1thes4:13

"but we shall all be changed! " - what part of us will be changed? not the spirit that is born again?
but the body - which is carnal and subject to decay.. this carnal body cannot enter the kingdom of heaven evn
though the spirit is saved,so to enter heaven it will b 'changed' in the 'twinkling of an eye'
thereby completing almost all of the salvation package - the saving of the spirit,soul and body.

"so when this corruptible has put on incorruption..."
Again,talking of the transformation of the human body of the saved person, when Jesus comes,
"and when this mortality has put on immortality .."

Again, like i pointd out earlier, this refers to the human body, because,the spirit of man is already a new creature -
(has eternal life)
besides, the human spirit is by nature immortal -whether man is saved or not - but his body is not hence is body
which is dead because of sin (romans 8 v 10a) ,
2cor4:16, is mortal, even after a person bcomes born again.
But God's plan is the salvation of all the human elements spirit,soul,body.
and at the coming of Christ,the human body will put on immortality - not his spirit!.

When this happens, then , believers will have a real laff in the face of death..
the human body was subject to death,even though man was born again - spirit had God life in it -
yet their body didnt and was subject to death.
But when saved man puts on his transformed body he'll laff death and mock it , death will
then have absolutely no power of over saved man - leading to the taunt - "where,o death , is your sting,
where o grave is your victory!!!" 1 cor15:55..

This does not in anyway contradict the casting of death into the lake of fire in revelations..
so dont get confused..
this means death's power is broken over saved man's body..
the verses of 1cor15. Dont relate to ALL men as you're trying to imply but to saved man..

Not that these verses relate to the rapture and not the resurrection of the tribulation saints or the sinner dead!!
dont mix them up.
after the rapture comes the tribulation,reign of anti christ, and then the intervention of Jesus,
1000 year or so millenial reign,binding of satan in the bottom less pit ,
reign of saints for that period, release of satan,
fir from heaven against the revolters,
casting of satan,anti christ,false prophet into lake of fire,
casting of hell death into lake of fire
and then the resurrection of the dead, sinners, trib saints, separation of sheep from goats,
and casting of all whose names arent found in the book of life into lake of fire..
nothing like soul sleep.
"hell will also give up its dead!!" - if there was soul sleep,
they'd be no souls in hell.
if there was soul sleep,the rich man in the story of lazarus wudnt be in hell, and lazarus wudnt be carried
by angels anywhere?
and they'd be no saints returng with Jesus, when the trumpet sounds... it would be only Jesus and angels.


Your opinion outstides of scriptures is irrelevant. ther's nothing like the satanic lie "soul sleep".

truthislight: "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and when this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:40-54).
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Learn to read and study the bible well befor believing Satanic deceit.

This verses quoted says nothing about the issue of this thread..
Hell is real, the dead go to hell if they dont accept christ
and the dead in christ go to heaven..
You've made no point..
Address my last post in the lines of the verses i quoted..
at least if you'll be honest you've seen from these posts that Man is a spirit!!!.

truthislight: "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and when this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." (1 Corinthians 15:40-54).
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Learn to read and study the bible well befor believing Satanic deceit.

satanic deceit-- ever learning ever researching but never ever able to come to d knowledge of truth.
if you read 1Thes5v23 and still come away with the conclusion that u aint spirit u have serious denail issues.

even basic logic tells you that that verse lists 3 separate things.
if you read the story of the rich man and lazarus and come away that it is a parable u get thnking paralysis..
jokers.. i gave my concluding verses to you..
and you ignored it..
continue with ur satanic delusion about "soul sleep"..


i'll address any thing you throw up but address those i confront you with.
like the verses i give in my previous post.

Atheists are you proud of where you come from?

if you dont believe in a God,then
you have no option than to believe that the whole world
is a physical thing.
and if so,you'll have to believe in the evolution myth.
which means that you believe you came from apes or somethng like that.

But despite all the inexplicable wonders of so called evolution-
like givin man a physical mind - with complex emotions,
man still feels insulted being calld a monkey.
man should be happy answering that name instead of being angry.
even atheists need some indoctrination to accept that they are
really higher monkeys.
Evolution cudnt evolve a physical mind that could naturally
and instinctively accept its roots.
too bad for evo.

Despite the so called lapses of religion,
the bible and i think major religions (i know only the bible)
gives man a noble origin. it paints a picture of a thoughtful
God who created man with the intention of nobility from the start.
with the gift of intelligence, with a notion of justice
. with the desire for freedom.
so much for religion but it creates a stark - but uplifting picture of the vision for Man-than evolution and atheism.

if you believe in atheism then you believe that in essence you are a
monkey,an animal , nothing more nothing less.
you'll feel kindred sympathy for other animals because you're no better than them..

orgasticdance: a kindred soul here; and one reason why I'm probably going to go through life alone without a wife or children. I'd rather not have been born--yes I've been suicidal before. In my selfish view it's criminal to bring children into this chaotic world with it's beauty and confusion and have them snuffed out of it in their prime or in their old age. But no lie, discovering this truth was one of the most empowering things to happen to me, but alas, as Schopenhauer said, 'with increased intelligence comes increased capacity for pain". Death be not proud!

To the religious faithful, what a comforting thought it is to spend eternity with our loved ones and in the arms of a loving father, but oh that's the great delusion -- every thinking man knows that life is nothing but a crack of light between two eternities of darkness.

i wonder wat u mean by thnking man cuz many intellectuals , distinguished thnkers, dont share ur view or arrive
at your conclusion..

FOLYKAZE: After death, we cease to exist

after death ur UNBELIEF ceases to exists! there are no atheists in hell!!.
on the death bed they're already smelling the smoke of the flames already!!
if in doubt ask thomas paine- research how some popular atheist's died.

after the fall of man in the garden of eden,
God told satan that the seed of the woman would crush his head.
Satan wanted to foil that prophecy by contaminating
the human race with evil dna.
fallen angels, came into the human race and took
for themselves wives. thru copulation the next generation
of humanity would be corrupted with satanic dna thus foiling God's prophecy.
this plan worked out:The offsprings of fallen angels and humans
were giants.
in addition to the evil crossbreeding,the fallen angels
taught mankind advanced forms of evil like abortions,
etc making sinful man even more evil.
The earth became totally corrupt so God had to end it all.
He dunked humanity in a global bath- the flood
and with the same stone, killed all the offsprings of
the fallen angels-the giants.
The flood wasnt just a judgement on sin but to stop satan's evil agenda.



what did the fallen angels teach man:
the art of warfare
jewelry and make up
astrology
vampirism
sorcery - cursing/curse lifting
introduced manking to psycheledic drugs
abortion

unnatural cross mixing of species:
mixing animals of different species together
to create wierd hybrids (e.g centuaurs,minotaurs, etc)



the technology of the pre deluvian world was far
superior to anything present man has.
confirmed in the book of eccliastes 1:9
"... there's nothing new under the sun"

"... no matter how far we've come in the name of science
and technology , it seems we are only catching up to what we've been
taught by these fallen angels in the pre deluvian world "


The ante deluvian world is of advanced technology is believed to
be atlantis.



[source: Age of deceit: fallen angels and the new world order]

My gloss:
the angels were not fallen angels , but legitimate angels
who got randy and wanted to copulate with mankind. seeing
beautiful woman.
They came down to earth to have a good time.
after the flood they left the earth for their abode in heaven,
their first estate,
but God didnt accept them,
they were cast down to hell and reserved in chains of darkness.
2nd peter2v4,jude1v6

this gloss is terribly inconsistent.
[end of my gloss]

the motivation behind leavg church early is still the motivation that makes ppl flaunt authority.
even if church services were shortened to 30mins some ar already down to 1hr most ppl will still chaff with impatience.
but the same ppl can talk crap on d phone for 1hr+,browse internet (fb,2go etc) , watch tv for hours.
if their boss wants them to work extra hours or even weekends they have no qualms!!..
They're som xtra ordinary situation that justify early leaving e.g nature calls etc but
the norm is just plain old rebellion and disrespect for authority. This is a sin..

Pastor Kun: Big mistake!!! Your pastor does not represent Jesus in your life neither is he an intermediary so stop comparing.

Yeah, u wish. just like your parents dont represent God in your life... and arent appointed by God over you.
What did Jesus tell peter after he resurrected?
No authority is constituted by man. it reads and he has set some pastors,evangelists,prophets etc in the church for the EDIFYING OF THE SAINTS so if you can't rspect those he has set up over you,you are indirectly disrespecting God!!.

in todays churches - people come in late, pick calls while sermon is going on, walk out anytime, carry on conversation
while message is being delivered, look down on the pastor for some material reason etc
then wonder why God isnt real to them, or Y God isnt revealing himself in the church..
There's a verse that says he who receives a prophet will get a prophets reward - the respect you show to
God's servant affects how much God can bless them thru u..
is also not suprising that sin is rampant in the church today? cuz ppl treat God with the same level of resepect they treat his servants and they'll b suprised when He says sorry, Heavn isnt like earth u messed up , no sin in here sir/ma.
depart from me..

anoda boring atheists debate?!!!!

Windows won market share to become the dominant os of today based on the followng tips..
hope the linux commnity learn from the wise sages @ ms!!


1.) keep it simple
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b4 windows operating systems had a geeky feel to it. if u werent intelligent a bit u cudnt get far .
windows took all that work away for the lay user.
Windows doesnt use ugly queer words as command parameters..
I remember encountering the word 'sudo' wen tinkering with ubuntu linux . i cudnt go further bcs i didnt
know what 'sudo' meant. how was i to know?!

2.) keep it visual/graphical:
A picture is worth a thousand words. windows put pictures and graphic objects over ugly
dos interfaces. Unix , etc wud never have been usable without this concept.
More lay users cud identify with pictures than terminals. one mor plus for windows..
Apple rode the wave even further and stole the fashionistas that wantd computers..
while unix like systems were slobbering over the power of their different shell's
windows was putting some mittens over the whole dos interface...
The average pc user wud never want to go back to some 'shell' after they saw a hard drive icon, again..

3.) keep it lazy
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point and click has made computing and using a computer much more convenient than typing commands...
this killd desire for geeky os's completely and lockd in market share for windows..

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I see i touched a sore spot over here.
Hmm.
Ever wonder y d innovators in I.T seem to fall withn a prtcular age range?
It's not coincidence.
@ dat time theyre not thnkg like d typicl older generation.
Infact, theyre thnkg is so disruptve it pools wools over d wrlds eyes.
Wat does ths mean?
It means lucratve ideas abound but typical thnkg will blind u to it.
Theyre so many new pg langs in d horizon, so much advanced research out tht d only way cpp,java,cshrp will keep up will require major rewrites Or addendums (added functions) no wonder they're gettg so bloated..
Here's an exercise. Abandon every popular lang u use 4 d nxt 3 years. Explore new ones.....
Read up scientifc/theoretcl virtues of new langs compare and contrast.
Com back with ur new mindset and u may never b d same...
Rember its the scope shift tht makes one generation blind mentally.
If d 3 year thng is over ur head, try a 3-6 month hiatus frm conventionality,where u xplore solely some new tool.
Stay positve.