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viaro:
I don't know what you mean by nature being 'disorganised'. There could be chaotic systems in nature; but not that nature is therefore chaotic and disorganised. As to whether nature is indifferent, that does not say anything about what 'nature' is, or how you employ that term here.

As regards diseases, I don't think it was used in my comments earlier to mean organisms. If you look again, I first mentioned it (I suppose) as a response to DeepSight's idea of a propelling element for survival (not a propelling organism). As a "factor" in biological systems, I was of the mind that diseases are NOT a propelling factor towards life for the bodies they attack.

the discussion was primarily on the struggle of every organism to survive. that in itself proves the chaotic character of nature, NOT on some systems.

viaro:
Enjoy, amico mio. . enjoy _{i woulda tagged along, but my e-jailor (nuclearboy) would be on the lookout!}
That does not address diseases - it rather tries to defend the biological systems which try to develop resistance, but not the diseases in themselves. Would you say that the diseases are a propelling factor towards life for the bodies they attack?
Nope, the meteorite thingy is arguably hypothetical - and 'extinction' is not limited to meteorites hittng the earth.
Such as. . ??
But just what is "nature" here? And again, how does this 'survival' determine the proof that the topic set out to accomplish?

Nature is chaotic and disorganised, and indifferent. The purpose of life is reduced to survival and all life strive for it including man. Diseases are not organisms but effects of parasites who strive for survival also. Mutation always does not occur to exactly fit a particular environment.

they simply got stuck !

adam was created in our image, a lesser being was borne out of adam, thus god is male. ancient ignorance.

institutional irrational thinking would end. bloodshed over dead people would stop.

its simply an opportunity to act stupiD.

rubbish, give it to the haitians! thats the worst book, aside form the bible, i have read. its too worthless and a get richer scheme by their bisexual pastor.

i wonder where all the theists are? its the same old sad story.

the unnecessary violence of today has been promoted by irrational religious ideas. the prophet mohammed and his cronies have used this medium of Islam to conquer and bring destruction to two third 0f the world.

for such a dream to come to pass, a revolution is needed. a massive urge for change. splitting the country would not change anything worsen matters, we need to take matters into our hands.

deols:
since you got nothing to guide your life, i aint surprised

guide me to be a suicide bomber?

naija. just another thief.

due process should take place. if there are allegations for misappropriation, then the laid down protocol should be followed. he should be investigated, and there is nothing wrong with that. if he is innocent then it would self-evident. all these campaign fueled by blind loyalty is unnecessary.

i do not there is anything wrong with the need for accountability, its a necessary evil of taxation. blacksta shuld not be victimized doing the right thing, the fact that Fashola is building roads does not exempt from criminal responsibility.

its funny that the conclusion, God cannot be found or know to exist is drawn, when its being accepted beforehand he exists. besides its a subtle admission of his non-existence.

there are still some than shut and blind themselves.

@op, that guy is crazy!

49cents:
@k17
Mary's dead and unconscious
your assertion shows you don't know that death is not unconsciousness and unconsciousness is not death; what i suspect you call death is the separation of the body from the immortal soul that animates it. When you die you will still know things, feel emotions that are nonsensual like regrets and joy regarding how death meets you (may yours and mine be joy).

that our prayers "to" her are thus worthless
well i would say much as your earlier posts suggests that you may not even be christain, so o have to know where you really stand

the seat of human consciousness is in the brain. if the brain dies, then perception is lost. eyesight, feelings, thoughts and movements end. what evidence do you have that there is consciousness after dead?

the foundation of trinity was laid in this meeting. at that time, their was a massive proliferation of Christian movements and doctrines. there was the need to reconcile all these differences and create a single church and a particular doctrine. one of the main issues was the relationship between God and Jesus. the Arians argued that Jesus was simply one of the creation of God. the Alexandrians felt that Jesus merely being a creation would compromise the Message or Gospel and the importance of the sacrifice.
the Alexandrian view was that Jesus was of the same substance as God, yet not a creation of God. the Alexandrian view was accepted and the Arians were persecuted, exiled or executed. these were similar to the power struggle between Stalin, Rykov, Kamenev and co.
The early church relied on the same swords that persecuted them to spread their Gospel and destroy rivals.

drop 10 percent for a heaven

i could follow allah and his illiterate camel riding messenger for a babe.

impeach that man for misconduct and absence from office. the watchdogs ( parliament ) are dumb.

arsenal will qualify for europa!

freedom of speech sometimes has a price.

then why are you on this forum?

blacksta:
Another useless thread - If you an athesit - then stick to your poo - if you believe in the existence of God then good for u . but why try to force each other opinion yourselves - absolute waste of time and energy

You should all get a life

stingers cannot bring down stealth. its mainly helicopters.

deep sight is terribly confused!

good way to burn[b] taxpayer's[/b] money.

mary is long dead and unconscious. your prayers are worthless.

@ deep sight, it better you start your church and preach your imaginary god there. religion provides the definition of God, yet its rejected by agnostics on what basis? religion has always preached that reason and God are incompatible, that God is far different from man.

Deep Sight:
I hardly have the words to address you.

What is the meaning of what you have written? ? ?

You say atheism has reason as a guiding lamp. That's hoggswollop. What rationality is there in stating that -

1. The world as we see it needed no preceding cause and/ or -

2. That cause could not conceivably be intelligent ? ? ? ? ?

You are very !/xqz"??11*%$£! when you assert that reason defies teh existence of God. Do you know what reason is? Ehn? Ehn? ? ?

Agnosticism is simply a position that declares - "we do not know and it is beyond us to ever know" - now that is a vastly more honest and reasonable response than the atheistic view.

all the nonsense you made is pure cheap speculation.

they should have tried out worthless prayers!

deep sight start your church! the subject of supernatural is highly subjective, they are usually centered around religions. to point at a particular supernatural activity is almost impossible.