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Hmm I really don't want to start picking on what you said one by one but since you ask for something to read. please visit.

http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html

it should be very educative i think 

But wait a minute, lets be honest, is that what the world especially Nigerians refer as big boys or big girls?

From what i know, the moment you are able to flaunt your heavy wallet, they would automatically give you the "tag". Its more of the monetary well being rather than the social, moral part of someone. That is the way I see many people use it back in Nigeria. Just being honest, and I am sure many of the posters here belong to the group of people that use the tag to those mentioned in the later.

Its just the mentality. Just like the class system. Have you heared a lady said, "He is not my type", really if you find out, it has nothing to do with the social or moral part, its just the "level" as they call it. The same applies in this situation. In Nigeria, I repeat again, you are called a big boy or a big girl if you are well to do, as in rich, especially when you use sophisticated stuff. Ride a ferrari at 20, and hear what they would call you .
That is just what I realised. Or na lie?

Just two things, his real estate theories and stock theories, wouldnt even work the way he said it would, even in the USA.

Dont tell me his theories on Option calls and puts, would work in a real stock market. Or his buying a lot of estate houses is true? Kiyosaki made his money from the books and the Cashflow game, in short the Rich Dad company, not from the ventures he claimed to be involved in. Thats why I said he was full of crap.

hahah that easy. We all wish it was that easy. Man idea is one thing, for it to work for you is another thing. Thats just the reality you would have to live with as an entrepreneur

hmm well yeah, you never know which one would turn out good as in you get what I mean . Just playing around doing everything I can while I can.

you just need a few things and you are good to go.

1. A good book on interior decoration
2. A Desktop. (maybe 5 units)+ one notebook for mobility.
3. A laserjet Printer.
4. Internet Connection
5. A generator.
4. Office chairs and table and file cabinets. Preferable two sets. lots of comfortable chairs for working area.
5. A set of cheap 3-seater in the sitting room with a center table a newspaper rack, a rug in the middle plus a cool sound system (preferably a 3 CD changer).
6. A mobile phone preferably a PDA phone (for your schedules)
7. A kitchen gas cooker and a wadrobe for your untensils.
8. A book wardrobe plus CD rack.
9. Reading lamp stands for the reading tables.
10. A Fridge and a dustbin.
11. A bed, a clothe wardrobe, a laundry stand, and a shoe rack.

With all this you are good to go. You don't need a t.v , what are you watching?

Besides your wallet needs to be thick, and a good flow of regular income must be ensured, before you can decide to shift on your own , funishing alone can take all your money just like that . Approximately my list would cost you almost 900,000 Naira. Just like that.

worked for him

I run currently

1. An Ebay Shop
2. A Web Hosting Business
3. Adsense Income Ads from 3 portals.
4 Some other websites i have percent in, which earn from membership.
5. Some other real life investments (shares in some setups like house,cafe etc).
6. Forex, Autosurfs and some other HYIP programs.
7. Web design and intranet apps development, when I am in the mood.

I am going to earn in the next coming month from.
1. An investment club which would be online based.
2. A blog i got partnership in, so another adsense income.
3. A payment gateway which is under process to be launched.

I guess thats more of it

I said this before and would always repeat, not everybody can be self-employed nor even a businessman. We must have every part of the quadrant to balance everything. If you are a business man who would be your employee? That is if every person chooses to set-up his or her own business based on what you belief as the best way out of the mess? yet you condemn those that choose to go for the employee quadrant.

What i see in nigerians' is that, they like the comfort zone (remained employed without taking risk).

And what is wrong with the comfort zone?, I am sure most of us here are fed from the comfort zone.

I really don't understand why a lot of people out there, think anybody working for another person, must be an idiot, for making such a decision. I guess most have being reading too much Kiyosaki's book, I suppose. Kiyosaki, only deserves the credit for paradigm change not condeming the employees. Besides he is full of crap, I have read all his books.

white shirt and black trouser. Like the malaysian police.

Which means u can live without window based apps

So I suppose being rich and pampered is Ajebota. Dem !! I am Ajepako.

You are misinformed. Nigeria is a lovely place to live and have fun.

Please visit ICANN site and read on domain conflicts. Yes it concerns them, and globacom wouldnt pay a dime if they decide to follow it up. The name is trademarked.

Ah yes thats very true, didnt think in that relation. Trademarks. People are just funny this days. Why would u do such a thing? Well I think globacom does not have time for such troubles. They get enough from their competitors .

Well Mikerowesoft would testify to that. hehehe although he had his way sortof. Cos the domain was actually his name with the soft, but M$ didnt feel comfortable with it and well you know the power they got. hehehehe.

hehehe Haba now Okafor, wetin my depending on Mummy and Daddy has to do with this, all i was saying was this thread wasnt the right place to advertise your stuff, there are other threads meant for that. Thank you.

Now back to my debate.

What is the essence in employing about 2000 people while affecting the demand-supply adversely?

So what you are saying now is this, you prefer the availability of a product at a cheaper price rather than taking care of the welfare of the people. People can continue roaming about the streets without jobs, whilst the price of one commodity(cement for goodness sake) that has no real direct effect in the livelihood of the masses remains cheap.

Now I am the one with the NIgerian mentality now. WHat a price to pay for one persons greed, of getting to have a way of selling his own commodity, rather than allowing someone that can provided jobs for the masses, to do it.

What I said is that his business skills have affected the lives of so many ordinary Nigeria in much negatively because of the high costs that came about.

Anybody that can afford to import cement is not an ordinary Nigerian , my brother. And we can live without cements. All we need is good education, availability of jobs, and basic ammenities my brother. Thats just the way it is.

If it is a Nigerian mentality. then so shall it be. I am a proud Nigerian, unlike some people who have turned a whitemans soil as something to associate themselves with.

You should keep your crazy Nigerian mentality to yourself.

Oh yes I would, atleast I don't claim to have an americana mentality. Thank you.

I would rather call it a server side scripting language, which was developed with a focus on web applications. Even though you can develop desktop apps with it, using the PHP-GTK. Although not really much can be achieved. And you actually have to compile the interpreter with the program to make it portable. But the lady asked for the meaning only, I suppose.

skima:
Its a web development language. Its was used to develop this forum. Thats why you are able to post and read real time.

Wouldnt really like the idea of linking a web development language to real time output nor even interactive response.

Web development language does not necessarily mean dynamic!! HTML (Hypertext Makeup Language) is a Language I suppose? not a programming language but a template language used for web development, if I might call it that. But it does not make your development dynamic, so not necessarily.

it was firstly Personal Home Pages, But later on changed to Hypertext Preprocessor. The first P letter I really dont know how they got rid of it, but then here it is.

heheh poor guy, I wonder what he would use globacom.com to do now . Well guys that is exactly what I am saying, a Nigerian company just wouldnt, spend millions on a name, especially domain name.

I for one don't understand you.

You accuse Dangote of getting a share of ill gotten gains of government officials in his businesses. Are you very sure? Where did you get your facts? Can you give us a proof to such accusation?

Do you know the history of Dangote? We should be very carefull in making factless accusations.

The case with Dangote is that he invests in Nigeria but look behind the scene and see who really owns the investments - Babangida them.

Have you heared about the Dantata family before? I doubt it They have been rich for 10 generations ++ if I am not mistaken. They are born merchants, and that is just what they do? The just a guy who doesnt like fame. And he is the main guy behind Dangote's Achievement today in terms of fundings. Dangotes Uncle is Dantata.

You mention some rich early millionaires. I for one don't know others , but by mentioning Isiaka Rabiu of Kano, I know the guy quite well. The guy with the biggest white house in Kano, hmmm, well I think now you do not know what you are talking about. have you heared about what he did in Saudi Arabia? Or even how he and many of his comrades nearly got Bank of the North banckrupted due to not repaying loans worth billions?

If his products are doing that well, why don't he export them to international markets just like Cosmos Chemical does with its Dudu-Osun African Black Soap.

You honestly lost me here, so there was a motive I suppose? To advertise your products, thats pathetic. Please let us not allow personal grudges to ruin our judgements.

okafor:
Obasanjo took over and declared cement import illegal unless it is imported in bulk and bagged in Nigeria.

lolz well lets put it this way, you prefer to be importing the bagged ones rather than bagging it in Nigeria, and creating Jobs? Is that what you are saying? This really I don't understand. The government from what I see is just promoting local establishment to explore more local added flavours to import, and thereby benefiting the public in terms of creating job opportunities etc. If it does not benefit your rich uncle and so be it. He is an individual, Dangote is employing people to bag it. And thus creating job opportunities. Your uncle has the money, he should look somewhere else.

Dont you see that? its like the recent case of scratch card, I am sure if your uncle was the main importer of the scratch cards for this mobile companies, you would complain again. I really don't get your point.

Innovative guy coming in? and who told you Dangote is not smart? heheheh see the guys o, you dey try a Hausa man , they are born traders man and Dangote has the money and the runs, just dont go into his territory. Nigeria has 120 million ++ population , how many can you provide goods too?

Lol read a lot of Benzo's related books? Are you sure? Because I really do not want to start throwing down real facts from multiple sources, and too lazy to do that now.


inyang? Your company sells goods to companies or individual clients overseas, and get paid after delivery. Internatiaonal Supplier services I suppose. Even dropshippers expect you to pay before they deliver :p. Are you very sure that there is nothing like "Letter of Credit" or any form of security? And you did mention that some companies do not pay, well bad debts happens and thus i suppose that applies to try to authenticate your first statement.

Your company is overseas i suppose, because you said you do a lot of businesses in Nigeria. Are you sure that your company gets no gurantee at all, they just supply like that? Are you sure? Where is your company? What do you supply? and May I get supplies too, because I would really love such deals . Even local supplies do need gurantee, my friend.

Yes I work with Nigerians, and I still stand by that statement, Nigerians are too sleek to be trusted and I add the sentence. There are right guys arround too, and I for one am lucky, but how many right guys are out there?

Impression? hmm lolz. Well I am speaking from experience here.

Banks all over the world, not only in Nigeria, would need some good evidence to know what they are borrowing out would not be a bad debt, and such bringing in such context in this situation does not apply at all. Comparing Nigerian market to offshore market is a bit too far stretched don't you think ?

clears throat. hmm I invest a lot, in very very risky stuff, yes its gambling with your money, yes you have to have the guts, yes I know I am crazy. But turning 10 dollars into 1 million in one deal, is not what I classify something to dream of, I am totally with Seun.

There is nothing like the fast way too riches to the majority, its just the selected lucky few, that probably fell into the luck of being in possession of something pricely. And I guess we fall into the majority category and thus building your dreams based on speculation would lead to dissapointment at the end. I just hope nobody is investing in domains to sell to a Nigerian company for a million , if you are, its all good, I wont be the person that would buy it from you. No matter how a domain name is good, it is in the same level with the lousy domain name, if you dont market it. And a lousy domain name can be marketed so good, that it would becoming more worthy than the good domain name. Thats what we call branding I suppose?

Names like Nike arent cool. But they are powereful names now, due to the branding and marketing of that name. Automatically it sips into everybodies brains.

inyang:
What is causing the laughter? People are already buying Nigerian services online with cc already.

Examples please........... That would be really appreciated

inyang:
One lesson from the dot.com meltdown is that selling cheap to generate volume does not always bring (a) profit in the future.

Jeff Benzos wouldnt agree to that, and I neither. Just a quote from one of my blog post on a relative topic.

A canonical “dot-com” company’s business model relies on network effects to justify losing money to build market share, or even mind share, through giving their product away in the hope that they could eventually charge for it. (It’s worth noting that Amazon.com and other successful survivors of the era (*.com crash) proved this strategy sound in the long term.)

And by the way if I must rephrase what i said before, on "pay after delivery shop", I was just being sarcastic there. Hello!!! No Nigerian would setup such a shop, whereby you pay after he delivers his goods. If you intend to use escrow services, there are too expensive for just single items, and besides that would be too loopy. Common guys, you should know better.

The idea of foreign partners? common it only works for a few, and depends on the services you want to provide. Nigerians are too sleek to be trusted. It would be a risk, which a lot of people would think twice before doing that. I for one use such concept, and I do classify myself very lucky in getting the right guys. How many right guys are out there?

Now i can't stop laughing. Nigerian citizens located in Nigeria, having an online mall to sell things to people overseas? Well they better don't use, the Products are from Nigeria label,

And honestly I would have to rest my case. I wonder which message boards, or where the person would even get the mailing list (such channel might be considered spam), especially from a Nigerian !!, another scam in disguise. Anywayz I better rest my case. People overseas buying things from Nigerians using credit card. Brother It just wouldnt happen. Maybe after this generation . Except it is pay after product delivery shop, that might do the magic, who knows

Well honestly you don't want me to start on the issue of starting a business online. Besides you "claimed" you are involved in one, I really doubt so.

If you are in Nigeria let me do a quick calculation on what you would be incurring setting up an online business.

Internet:
Assuming you have a 24/7 connection at home, thats 15k a month, your profit better be more than that.
Assuming you use the internet cafe to take orders, in the scenario of sales, and setting up, I wonder what particular you would
sell.

Web Hosting? ok assuming webhosting, you take the orders and go to your bank to check, Internet cafe bills, transportation cost, lets say approx 20k a month. Your web hosting business better be very profitable.

Assuming you sell stuff, that means they must be cheaper or unique products, which you get from overseas, that means you have to pay via credit card, or lets say you use wire, I am sure you should be familiar with bank charges.

Now back to phone, phone bills, calling clients etc....

Back to assuming your business is from home, minus the cost of the internet connection, you need a computer? you need a generator? you need a good room? That comes cheap?

ok now i have not gone into the cost and capital needed for the web front to be standard, as in you would need a web designer to design a standard website, then also you would need a web hosting company to host it. you would need an SSL certificate if you are processing credit card payments, you would need to pay a gateway monthly.

And don't forget your product is alternative, means it must be CHEAP.


And i have even forgotten the publicity and marketing part, how would people know you exist? search engines only? hehehe most Nigerians would see you only in the dailies, that doesnt come cheap. lets say 20k per ad?

Think again my friend, it doesnt come cheaper

Settled in Nigeria.

Not only that, but do remember that the capital needs to start up a successful business are greatly reduced with the possibilities the internet offers.

This is not true, do your research on setting up a business online. Read on e-commerce related subjects.

lolz hmmm.................... Nigeria our Nigeria, I think if NYSC doesnt appreciate it, you should turn it around for your own benefit. I am not a fan of the word "appreciation" especially when it comes to parastatals, organisation or even from the so called people besides the governance of MY HOME COUNTRY, our greatest Nigeria. The thing about this is quiet simple. If they don't get anything from your stuff, especially monetary gains, if it might be applied, they don't appreciate it nor even go to the extent to acknowledge it, and the same goes for your current burst, you want something from them, that is the award to acknowledge your effort, but unfortunately you werent given.

I think you should look somewhere else. But don't make a decision that would affect the 120 million plus population, because someone somewhere refused to appreciate your work. Its that someone somewhere, that deserves the punishment. thats all i got to say. amigos.

Lord what is happening to my Nigerian brothers