Kuns84:



Spoken like a true mangina. Keep it up ma

a man whose wife has held him back from realising his goals is who is calling another a mangina?

Rot in the jealousy you have for us doctors over here,we dont need dummies like you working with us

bukatyne:


What has being a MD got to do with the fact a woman committing paternity fraud disrupts the family tree and DNA of the family?

Goodbye, no time for irrationality.

who is irrational between you and I?

Please go make dinner,your mind ain't equipped for intellectual discourse. You fit more in sweeping floors and mopping house than talking online

Kuns84:



Yes you do, yes fvcking do! Hence the numerous incoherent verbiage and lengthy trash talk.

Even women here can smell the desperation in your comments as you precariously try to prove your "decency" above other men

Being a pick me will not pay you bro

ignore my post,I will ignore yours henceforth.

rockstarB:

Congratulations. At least you're being wise.
If you read my post well you will see I am not being biased. No man or woman should be forced or coarsed into raising a love child.
My point only is that it would be easier for a man to raise a love child in a healthy way outside his marriage(if the wife wont file for divorce cos of that), than a woman. Its reality.

I never objected to this,I debunked the Op stance that once he drops money it settles it.
I also debunked the Op stance that motherly grooming,nurturing and affection is lesser than providing money.

I also debunked your stance on family tree and DNA gibberish

You and kuns84 interpreted it in your own way

rockstarB:

Dont mind him. For someone that did a DNA on his own child. If DNA disruption doesnt mean anything to him why did he do a DNA test on his own son?

stop displaying your ignorance online

bukatyne:


If you as a man does not understand the essence of family trees and DNA disruption as you put it, it is a shame.

It is not 21st century gibberish, it is fact.

now I understand why ladies came for your head in the family section.

I dont blame them for it.

Talking of fact . I am a medical doctor,upper year I will be through with my residency and become a surgeon over here in Texas .So dont tell me what is fact and not fact.

Romangalactic:

An openly confessed lovechild either way, and my opinion still stands.

Anyone can groom and nurture a child as good as the biological mother if you pay them to do it. My mother can do it for my child & my sister or relative can do it too, all free of charge even. But financial provision for a child is not something you can outsource to anyone so yes cash is absolutely more important.

stick to your opinion ,I will stick to mine. Have a nice day!

Kuns84:


Well, perhaps he's been so much bullied and subjugated by females on this forum. So much so that he now suddenly panders to the (f) audience for likes and cheap acceptance.

It's either that or his account has been hacked.. coz the thirst and desperation I sense from his comments doesn't strike me as the same person

Lol,you went so far with this?

Biglittlelois:



I am surprised this is coming from you.

ii am not a sexist. I am pro man,but that doesn't mean I will cheer them when they misbehave

Kuns84:


Good for you but I think you're firing all the wrong shots here.

Paternity fraud is very much relevant to this discussion.
. and as much as it is WRONG, you cannot equate the level of sacrifice, deceit and trauma it brings to a situation where a man has a baby mama on the side! ..Reasons? Well, I don't think I can explain it better than Bukatyne has.

bro,if you have being reading mynposts on this thread I was not comparing paternity fraud to a man love child.
The former is purely deceit and I will advice any man to leave the lady. Except a man marries a single mom or choose to adopt a child he should not be deceived or forced to cater for a child.

I was comparing a love child from a female(which she openly confesses from the onset) to the love child of a man(which he also openly confesses)

The Op was subtly using "providing cash" as a pass of bringing in love children.


Edited:
The op said the work of a mother can be done by anyone but a father's work cant be done.

Would a sane person type that?

Kuns84:
It's like someone has hacked Kingarthur21's account.

no one did..the fact I am pro man doesn't mean I should always cheer irresponsible behaviours from some men.I will have daughters some day.

Romangalactic:

Goodness,thank you so much for this breakdown. I don't understand why there are people still finding it difficult to accept that there is a very big difference between a husband having a lovechild and wife having a lovechild.

The intricacies involved, financially big part, are just different. Everyone knows that when a child is not able to eat good food or attend a good school, and he has a father,it is him that will be looked at as useless. Whether the wife contributes financially to the house or not is not an onlookers concern.

there is no difference between a love child from a man and woman,both invest(however differently).
You are comparing paternity fraud with a love child to excuse men infidelity.

Why not compare a love child(openly confessed) of a man and also a love child(openly confessed )of a woman...
What is the difference?

Dont tell me cash please, cash is nothing compared to grooming and nurturing a child

bukatyne:
Infidelity with children is different for men & women.

Husband:
A husband cheats and has a kid. He can decide to run a parallel family or bring the kid home if the marriage currently has no kids, no boys etc. The worst he will do is to bring the child home as 'his brother's child or uncle' s child' that is lie about the relationship. At No POINT is the wife deceived that the child is hers.

Wife:
She cheats and gets pregnant. Except the husband has established he is impotent or did not sleep with her during the window, he will automatically assume her child is his. So the husband invests all resources in a child that is not his right from when she is pregnant.

There is also wear and tear that comes from pregnancy and childbirth. So the husband probably ran out at 2am to get Ghana Jollof + Port Harcourt Boli for a child that is not his; he endured all the discomfort and abstained from sex for months for a child not his; the wife's body changed and he had to work with her through it for a child not his; he kept vigil when the baby was ill; he cheered when the baby took her first walk; when he grew his first tooth.

Paternity fraud is the difference between love children of cheating husbands/ wives.

Cc: Romangalactic

we are not talking about deception by the woman here.
We are talking about a woman bringing a kid that is not his and being honest about it(my dear husband,when you were abroad , I made a mistake and I am pregnant ) versus a Man bringing a kid that is not hers.
What is the difference?

No one is comparing paternity fraud with a love child because the former is purely deceit! We are comparing a love child from a man and a love child from a woman(with no deceit).

Why do think one is more tolerable than another?

You are woman(except you are a male behind this moniker),you should know better that raising a child is not just a man dropping money. If a man brings in a love child will the lady not nurture,groom and take care of the child?you think flinging cash is more than bathing a kid thrice a day,watching over the kid feeding the kid,,sleeping with the kid when admitted in the hospital(most men cant do such), changing nappies at night etc

As a single father(I am engaged to the mother of my kid though),he came to spend last Christmas with me,it was hell. He will climb everywhere,put my phone in the toilet,switch on the gas,not to talk of him waking up at night severally..I just couldn't do anything, I was tied down. I realised that taking care of a child is worth more than the money I send monthly for his upkeep.


So please concisely state the difference between a love child from a man and a love child from a woman,if both are honest about it!

rockstarB:
Because that child is a disruption to the family tree. A married man that has a child with another woman still gets to maintain his DNA through that child, the child is part of the family tree. It is solely up to the wife to decide whether she wants to be a part of the childs life or not, the man can as well raise the kid with the babymama outside his family. He gets to spend his money on his own child and all that daddy duties.
When a married woman cheats and gets pregnant for another man(if she gets caught), that child is automatically a bastard to the family, a disruption to the family tree. His sisters, brothers, uncles and aunts are not his real relatives.
A married woman that has the courage to get pregnant for another man should use same energy to raise the child with the real family.
Except a man wants to genuinely protect the image of the family, such child should be raised in his real family.
Say no to OMO ALE. Only a woman can bring a bastard to the family. A bastard child never comes through a man.

a myopic and sexist gibberish you put up.

No man/woman should be deceived/forced into raising a child from wedlock.
There is no excuse for it,you talk like one from the medieval times.
DNA disruption?family tree?
In the 21st century you are analysing from a sexist lens..

In as much as I hate modern day feminism,I agree it was needed to some extent to put sexist men at bay

Romangalactic:
In Nigeria, it is culturally the responsibility of a husband to be responsible for the financial needs of the children & wards under him. In families where wives are the providers there will definitely be no peace if the situation does not change for a long time.

I had an issue which I brought here sometime back regarding my fiancee and her pregnancy. Thank goodness my doctor allayed my fears regarding her fidelity by confirming that it's possible I am the father.
I know for sure that after she gives birth and I find out I am not the father, I will not accept responsibility for a child I did not father because I don't want to raise another man's child with my money. If I felt the need to do such a thing, I will adopt a child. That's my decision.

Now the matter here is, what if it's a man who got another woman pregnant and wants to bring the child into his family? It's my opinion that he has the right to do so because it is his money that will be used to take care of the child. The role of a mother can be performed by anyone if you pay them to do it and people need jobs, but you can't pay someone to financially provide for a child he did not father.

A wife who has a child from a man other than her husband should get child support from the biological father or just go to be with the man who impregnated her. The other option is to cater for the child's financial provision with at least 90% support if she wants her husband to consider accepting it.

I will like to read opinions from other people here

Plead
Ybaby
Mizwisdom
Pdudd
Risenphoenix
Capslocked
Pansophist
Bukatyne
Mstick
Lalasticlala

this sort of threads create gender wars..

A lady bringing another pregnancy to you without you knowing it is deceit. If you adopt or marry a single mom,it is understandable,you willfully chose to raise a kid out of goodwill(a kind heart and charity) but paternity fraud is a no no.

Finances are not the only contribution to child welfare. A lot of you guys feel "money" alone is all that is needed,and as long you are bringing money that settles it. Bringing your child out of wedlock to your marital home without your wife consent is wrong whether you provide a million for the child upkeep, because she will need to invest emotionally ,nurture and groom the kids. So dont use finances as a pass to randomly bring in kids.

And also she has no right to bring in kid(s )without your consent even if the real father is sending all the finances needed because you will need to invest emotionally and groom the kid

marimarempress:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-52782235

when you tell people to be careful of their words,they will proudly beat their chest saying they judge and are justified to judge others.

Until their loved ones are a victim of cyber bullying they will know the repercussions of trolling and judging others

Ximenez:
Don't get worked up over nothing.

Like i said, this is not Islam vs Christianity

This is islam vs humanity. Especially the countless numbers of people that have been slain while the terrorists shout allah akbar.

What if you or any of your family members was inside the world trade center on 9/11

this thread has nothing to do with Islam killings.. It is derailing.

Google is your friend,the number of people killed by the church during the crusade will always surpass the number of people killed by Muslims(even if you double it)

Know your church history,the Christian church hands are not clean.
In england thousands of women were burnt alive,drowned,etc for refusing to accept Christianity and for false assumptions of witchcraft.

How about scientists persecuted and executed by the church? Browse about Galileo death and others excommunicated.

Islam killed may be the ones trending now especially in most countries but that doesn't mean Christianity is spotless..

In France they are persecuted.

nengibo:

A simple Google search would have saved you from your folly

the only folly here is those of the Christians(including yourself) that derailed and trolled this harmless thread of celebrating the beauty of hijab to start attacking Islam.

The op is defence pointed out scriptures of the bible that is also guilty of what you drag Islam for,and you are calling it folly.

Offer a rebuttal to it or STFU!
Those scriptures are from the bible,you can't deny it,you and Ximenez and Elimon and othe r religious bigots that always troll and attack Islam should bow your head in shame and leave this thread for the Muslim ladies to enjoy

[quote author=Ximenez post=89880659][/quote]you think Christianity is any better?
You see why you Christians have no access to Muslim section,because you will troll them.
The op just opened a thread to celebrate those in hijab,she did bash anyone or shade anyone that doesn't wear it,you all have started calling Allah and attacking Islam just because some acknowledges that hijabian women are cute?

Take your derailing elsewhere and leave this people alone.