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What do u mean by see what I meant?, do u think we have to roll out the talking drums with fanfare for a mundane and routine duty of a president. If he cannot pull this off then he might as well step I side. I am sure my vulcanizer can do better than that.

[size=14pt]If we have a free and fair elections, the elections takes place, the votes are counted in front of everyone, the results in the wards correlates with what is announced eventually, there is transparency throughout the whole process why would anyone want to protest if they lost.

But when u have day light and blatant ballot snatching, votes casted has not been counted only for the resident officer to come out announce to the whole world some fictitious numbers, I would implore any sensible person to fight such charade.[/size]

Hurrican BB is blowing away all obstacles check this out.


[size=16pt[b]]Who is your candidat[/b]e?

Buhari(CPC) 101 (32.4%)

Dele Momodu (NCP) 1 (0.3%)

GEJ(PDP) 91 (29.2%)

Ribadu(ACN) 106 (34%)

Utomi(SDMP) 7 (2.2%)

Okotie(FP) 1 (0.3%)

Shekarau(ANPP) 1 (0.3%)

Others 4 (1.3%)

Total Votes: 312[/size]

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I would tell you what is good news[/size]

[size=14pt]1. JONATHAN SHOULD name one city or town that have 24 hours electric supply. This would have been a show case for better things to come.

2. Jonathan and some of his cabinets took a train ride today from Lagos to Jebba on the re-furbish Lagos-Kano rail road. That would be good news.

3.Jonathan took a boat ride Today from Warri to Lokoja to announce to the whole world the dredging OF THE Lower Niger up to Lokoja has been completed and open for business. That would be good nes

4. when they were executing Nigerians for been illegal immigrants in Libya where was the Nigerian Government.

5. Canceling and stopping that stupiiiid policy of putting all almenjeris into a hostel at FG expenses that would be good news, is he prepared to take on Alemenjeris from cameroon, chad,Niger,Mali,Bukina Faso and Guninea. How do u seperate a Nigerian Alemenjeri from others.

6. IF he stops paying mend for not working for the money,  that would be good news- monkey dey work, baboon dey chop.

7. Ex-Presidents don't need a penny from the already over-burdened tax payers in this country. If they have not made  money whilst on the sit too bad, that would be the joke of the year. Moreover majority of these so called HoS were illegitimate Governments.

8.  Organize a free and fair election as promise when he was elevated from the post of VP to President. I hope it would not be like that sham in Delta State.

9. I shall spare him the rest for now.[/size]

@IBRO YAYA,

Why are talking as if u don't know what transpires in your neck of the woods. I take it based on your handler u are Hausa, what do u mean Buhari has no structure. The man is the oldest love-peddler in town(I don't mean it in a derogatory way) he has a structure older than some contributors on this forum and even older than this Democratic experience. In the NW Jonathan is not winning one state get it clear into your thick head. Even Kaduna State which is the VP's abode they would be humiliated. Perharps Jigawa, but then Jonathan is only popular in the state capital which is the 3rd largest city in that state after Hadeija and Gumel

North Central, With IBB thinking of running there goes Niger State, Kwara would probably vote ACN Governor and CPC Presido. Plateau, Benue and Taraba are the only states GEJ would get votes in the NC. I thought he was strong in Nasarrawa not until he was pelted with the locals shouting "sei Buhari".  In the North East ZERO

The only hope for him and those thugs that he his lapping up to(Akala, Daniel and OBJ) is through thuggery and brutal force that might be the only way to hold on to Oyo and Ogun but if the people hold their ground it would be a fight to finish or a do or die for all and the last man standing would emerge the winner. Ondo might go Jonathan's way since Labor has fallen out with Tinubu but then CPC might be the net gainer here. We shall know in the weeks to come clearly where and who would carry the day in Ondo State.

Lagos is a no go area, Ekiti and Oshun should be ACN but then we shall monitor how Team BB's influence increase as the days and weeks pass by.

Jonathan seem to spending Money like no tommorrow are these d early signs of a man throwing in d towel b4 d whistle is blown. Na wa oh!!

The man might be playing his last card. It is either He would honorably throw in d towel knowing that whilst he was in power he helped his brothers in d creeks if he was defeated in d coming elections or  rather sadly and I hope not he is indirectly recruiting an army of disgruntled tribes men who would do his bidding wen they are called for duty. I would like to believe it is d former ather than d latter after all he only profess recently that one of his cardinal points is d eradication of tribalism from our polity.  I would want to think that he is too learned to get directly involved in d balkanisation of Nigeria.

But then what have we not seen in d last week, Gaddaffi's son who is suppose to be a Phd holder was on air in his country wagging his hands at his country men & women threatning them with fire & brimstone if they don't accept his family's continued despotic rule, The world has seen it all b4.

[size=16pt]Apart from Benue, Plateu & Taraba I am really struggling for where oga patapata GEJ would get vote in d North. Pleateu becos d Beroms would never vote Hausa/Fulani. Benue sef is very dicey with d recent Fulani invasion in that part of d country. Taraba seems to be d only state on complete locked down pro-PDP.

Kaduna d VP's home state is a bastion of Buharism. Shekarau has Kano on locked down. Kwara, Kogi & Niger cannot be trusted. The other areas in d NW zones & NE zones seems to be a no go area. Omo e be like say Jonathan don Jones oh.

Jonathan's only hope is to do, do or die in d SW by clearing d stakes, add that to d SS & SE that are already in d bag then he might have a slim chance of winning.

SWesterns protect your votes with all your might u are d weakest link.[/size]

It will happen if we all go out to vote, defend our votes.

[size=18pt]EACH POLLING STATION GO WITH 10 CAM-CORDERS IF IT MEANS U HAVE TO BORROW IT.[/size]

Quote from: KnowAll on Today at 02:13:08 PM
MY YORUBA BROTHERS YOU CAN VOTE FOR ACN DURING GOVERNORSHIP, BUT FOR PRESIDO,  IT IS BB ALL THE WAY


Anyone VOTING base on netpotism NEEDS prayer. BB all the way!

[size=18pt]You need check and balances in the House, u don’t want a rubber stamping House of Assembly.[/size]

[size=18pt]MY YORUBA BROTHERS YOU CAN VOTE FOR ACN DURING GOVERNORSHIP, BUT FOR PRESIDO, IT IS BB ALL THE WAY[/size]

[size=14pt]I think it is high time for Ribadu to stylishly withdraw from this race, b4 bUHARI'S  endorsement of Bakare, Ribadu was the leading opposition and contender. After the primaries and all the recriminations in the ACN so many Yoruba folks are unhappy with the Tinubu clan. How does one explain the house wife turned senator in Lagos State, who are they representing, definitely not LAGOSIANS.

The damage Tinubu and his cohorts has inflicted on the Yoruba psyche called primaries is irreparable, CPC is the party of choice in the SW NOW, we in the SW had great respect for Ribadu b4 the advent of that sham called primaries, what we would implore Ribadu to do is tactically withdraw from the race 2 weeks b4 the election PROPER thereby paving way for a smooth ride for the BB team. Ribadu should not worry, he would have his day come 2015.

As for Tinubu and his family they would be giving a bloooody nose by the electorates. If Ribadu turn down this proposal the SW should Know that Ribadu is playing the role of a spoiler knowing he cannot become second let alone win the election but ensuring Jonathan gets it after all Jonathan made it possible for him to come back to his father's land.[/size]

I thought IBB son's is Mohammed Babangida I no no say he get one illegitimate child called " Jonathan Goodluck"  

Mr Moderator please put this topic back in the politics section, although it is foreign it is also political.

What Shangothor is saying is true.


Black Muslims should see themselves first as Africans b4 any other thing. The Muslim Yoruba man sees himself first as a Yoruba man then every other thing comes second. Our Black brothers up North must also make religion a private thing rather than flouting and lording it over the whole society.

I mistakingly shagged Bianca Ojukwu, Oooops, I hope nobody heard me.

What Have You Done Lately For Buhari/bakare Ticket 2011?


[size=18pt]WRITING BOLDY & IN CAPITAL LETTERS SPREADING THE GOSPEL OF BB, SO THAT THE WORLD AND NIGERIANS IN PARTICULAR WOULD NOT LET THIS OPPORTUNITY SLIP FROM THEIR HANDS. THERE IS A VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CHANGE IF NIGERIANS KNOW BB IS NOT A REVOLUTION BUT THE CLOSEST TO A REVOLUTION WE WOULD EVER GET.[/size]

[size=16pt]The reason why I raise this question, is that the Libyans are more than convinced that the Black Soldiers fighting on behalf of Gaddafi are hired hands from Black-Africa, when it is a known fact there are ethnic Blacks in the Southern part of the country. Are this so called white or Arabic Libyans not deliberately stripping these indigenious black people of their right to lay claim and a stake in their country by insinuating that the black soldiers fighting on behalf of Gaddafi are Africans, would this people fear any better with the demise of Gaddafi?[/size]

This week, Libyan blogs addressed several thorny issues including racial discrimination, corruption and the responsibilities and freedom of bloggers
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According to Ahmed Bukhari (Taboo), everyone agrees that Libya "is one of the most race-oriented societies. You can ask any girl from the area of Zawriya or any Amazigh girl about that. You may also, if you can, explain to a young "Hamri" man in the south why he can't marry a "free" girl; why a Touareg can't drive a public vehicle in the city of Ghadames; why this or that tribe can't deal at all with this or that tribe; or why the residents of that area are despised by the residents of another."

In his blog, Bukhari suggest that the reader try to "attend the wedding of any black man who's marrying a white woman, or a white man who's marrying a black woman. See for yourself the number of comments and criticisms made by everyone. In reality, these marriages are actually rare. Black Libyan men are doomed to marry black Libyan women."

"As for the other colors, whether white, red, dark-complexioned or even purple, they can marry each other without any notable problems," adds the blogger. "If we look at the issue from another angle, we find that a white woman has the possibility of marrying men of all colors, even black men in rare cases, while the possibility of a black woman marrying a man who isn't black is very small."

Bukhari cites several examples of what he claims is serious racism in his country. "Perhaps one of the harshest incidents that showed black Libyans how they were treated differently were the acts of violence that broke out years ago against Africans in Libya. Because of a certain problem with immigrant Africans, Libyans would hit and assault anyone with black skin, including black Libyans themselves, who were assaulted by mistake. A poor citizen who was attacked had to yell 'I'm Libyan! I'm Libyan!' Just note the absurdity and humiliation that black Libyans were exposed to during that period of time."

As for blogger Ramadan Jarbou, he presents a recipe for reform and eliminating corruption, saying: "There are so many reasons that call for reform, including the spread of corruption, which we can even say has become socially 'acceptable' when poverty worsens, living conditions become difficult and the means to get by become hard to find."

Related ArticlesLoading "In this atmosphere, a new mentality gets established, and we see a willingness to do anything in order to achieve the desired ends," writes Jarbou. "Worse still, those who do this and become important and influential people are received in our modern societies with acceptance and great respect, even though in our recent past they represented examples of corruption and conscienceless behaviour and faced only criticism and disapproval."

"In this case, when corruption prevails and becomes 'acceptable', it will inevitably reach all levels of administration in this country, including the judiciary," writes the blogger. "The judiciary includes good elements and some bad ones as well, and therefore, reform must be introduced to its structure. This is not a difficult task: all we need to do is to review the reputations and behaviors of their members over the years, provided that such a review is done by competent people."

Meanwhile, blogger Fitouri offers the perspective that personal blogs mirror the nature of the blogger's society. "In my opinion, blogging, before being an act lying within the scope of personal freedom where the writer writes whatever he or she wants without restrictions, limitations or conditions other than what his or her conscience dictates, is a diverse work of art that can be high or low, and can also be different from one person to another in content and aim."

"It represents man's regional and Arab identity," writes Fitouri. "The blogger's image, as it appears to the rest of the sisterly Arab countries and the whole world, in terms of writing valuable and distinguished human content … reflects the cultural identity of the blogger's country and expresses the depth of his or her society's culture to the world."

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comments
Mohamed EL BAKI (mohamedelbaki) Posted 2010-01-07

All of these acts of discrimination based on skin colour, ethnicity and tribe are inadmissible and intolerable. Seeing this racism, social segregation and any other form of rejecting the "other" in our 21st century is inadmissible and intolerable. This holds true for the whole world, for the Arab-Muslim world, for our Maghreb countries, and particularly for the People’s Socialist Jamihiriya. All human beings are equal in rights and duties as male and female citizens. Within the framework of the Jamahiriya, it is all the more commendable that the Green Charter proclaims equality for all men and woman. Islam condemns racism, segregation and the rejection of others. Let us hope for the complete disappearance of racism and xenophobia and the rejection of others in all of our countries. Let us fight against religious fundamentalism and political and philosophical extremism, which lead to hatred and death. Let us hope that our country will have more democracy, more social justice, more liberty and also peace and harmony among ethnicities. The diversity of our peoples, languages, customs and traditions belong to our family, social and cultural heritage, of which we should be proud. This is the heritage of our ancestors. Don't all of the countries of North Africa — Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Mauritania — have a common origin in this diversity? Do they not share centuries of common history? Yes they do! In my opinion, we all have points in common. We have a history and an Arab-Berber-Muslim history! Our destiny is common in the construction and development of a better future for all of our countries. So, stop with the racism and the exclusion of others!

Thair El Heri Posted 2010-01-07

I am afraid at the office there is also predudice against employees from areas outside Tripoli. Focussing on the middle managment of most corporations or organisations based in Tripoli it is extrmely hard to obtain employment or a possition equal to your qualifications particularly if you cme from Benghazi.

zoumhani Posted 2010-01-07

So far, I have not had the privilege to read one of my articles on your website. This is nothing but a waste of time for me with you. -Thanks

سيتيماتيك Posted 2010-01-24

The statement of the blogger Al Boukhari - with my respects to him - is very rare. I have a friend who is Amazigh, married to an Arab Libyan, close to my relatives. He is white and married to a black woman. There are many examples. We have friends of all kinds - praise be to God, we are united by the flag of Islam. The brown, Amazigh and black are our brothers. Peace and mercy of God be upon you.

الهوني الليبي Posted 2010-01-26

Quickly and with all clarity: I'm a pure Libyan who has lived through many generations, as it is said. My statement is succinct but true. Honestly, there is nothing to say about severe racism in Libya. I haven't seen any clear racism in attitudes between people of black skin with regard to their brothers of other races in Libya. There are some, as there are in other societies, but not in the way presented by the brother. I know black people who married white and vice versa. By the way, everyone who belongs to a side thinks that he is rejected by the other side when he lives with them. I see it personally as a psychological condition of the individual. I know many black people. I might prefer talking to one of them rather than someone of my race. Wake up brothers, the sons of my country and other countries. I feel some kind malice by those who promote them. God knows!

ليبية امازيغن Posted 2010-01-28

Salam alikum. What was written by the blogger Ahmed Boukhari is true 100%. Here in Libya, we still endure segregation and racism, which are still deeply-rooted. For example, I am an Amazigh woman. I love an Arab man. We've been together for five years. However, my family rejected him. Now I am 31 and I'm not married. Other people came to marry me, but my family made up pretexts that they were black, of a lower race, or from a different tribe. It's difficult for a black man to marry a white woman unless he makes compromises. When she is older than him, for example, it's if he's rich. There are many young girls and men in my country who endure segregation. But to speak the truth, Libyan society is now gradually developing and is becoming open to all cultures. Praise be to God anyway!

الفزانى Posted 2010-02-01

My dear bloggers, I hope you'll focus on issues which constructively serve society. Don't you see that laws have filled societies and administration? With its power, corruption, anarchy, systematic plundering public funds. Write facts and don't be afraid of fat cats!

ابو الفقر والجوع Posted 2010-02-02

I am a Libyan from the tribe of Beni Welid. My father is from the tribe of Mechachia. I confirm you what brother El Boukhari said that the Libyans are racist by instinct. The black is a friend, but when he comes to marry your sister, you will tell him honestly, "Go, slave of slaves." There are even worse examples; in Zouara for example, the black can't eat with his white master on their occasions. I've witnessed this with my eyes - until the white man finishes eating.

مشار[b]ك Posted 2010-02-09[/b]

These statements are exaggerated. This is not at all true. Quite simply, two of my neighbours are black and married to white women. One of my neighbours, a friend, from a mountainous region, is married to a girl from Tripoli. The brother of a dear friend is black and married to a white girl. Why this exaggeration and injustice? Brother Ahmed, don’t falsify the truth, fear God! We are all Libyans united by the country, we sit, talk and communicate with each other in cafés without any difference between the son of a minister or the son of a guard, the son of the city or the son of a village, a white or a black!

Al saharan Posted 2010-02-17

It is very interested issue. Brothers and sisters, Please allow me to clarify this race issue in libya. I am black and Toubou, on the of minory ethnic group in Libya. For Sure there is segration between the ethnic groups in Libya we all should agree on this. Firsly I disagreed that there is race discrimination in libya comparing to the other part of world. Why? Because everyone who lighter believe that he or she superior the Drak person. I mean everywhere. Secondly the problem we have in libya is ethnic discrimination. Within arab tribe, some people are described as inferior to others arabs tribe. Within Black people some tribes are describes as inferiors. In my city there are: Two types of Arabs Zouwiya well who believes to be superior due to their wealth and numbers of men in the their tribe. others groups arabs are nothing because they are poor and less in number. Two types of Black tribes. Toubou is wealthy black tribe and large is term of family. The second black groups non tribe black descent of slave and still dependent on their ex mater's tribes. This ethnic deseases. It is our gouvenment's responisible to eliminate this evil believes.

abdel Posted 2010-03-22

I am French Tunisian. I am currently crossing Libya as a tourist. I was truly surprised by Libyan racism – even against Tunisians, Egyptians and Algerians. There is a great lack of tolerance.

Sarakhollé Posted 2010-04-28

I have just one question: Are black Libyans Touaregs, Berbers or just indigenous? It was quite amazing that most of them at the Ghadames Festival were black. Not that this bothers me, but honestly, I didn't imagine the presence of blacks in Libya. I want to know who they really are. I hope that the problems with racism will be resolved quickly.

Anonymous Posted 2010-05-02

To Abdel: What were you expecting of a backward country where a tyrant has erased any trace of culture and good manners, since he himself is deprived of them? Did you not see the vulgar behaviour of his arrogant offspring?

Anon Posted 2010-05-28

I am a half Lybian woman from Britain and what this blogger is saying is true 100%. My Fathers rascist attitude towards blacks is nothing short of disgusting and it shames me terribly. I have never even been to explore my roots because this puts me off. It's a shame and what makes me even more angry is that Libyans that have been in this country for 30+ years still have this backwards attitude that the other North Africans do not seem to adopt. I really feel sad about this because my son is half black and I am extreamly proud of that. We are all one.

candy_derna Posted 2010-07-07

Unfortunately racism is widely spread in our country. For example I am from the town of Derna, I notice that young people when choosing a wife, they prefer a white not a black girl although they praise the morals and education of the black.

الريفي Posted 2010-10-07

Praise be to God. Peace and prayer be upon His subjects. Salam.

طلال Posted 2010-11-13

Yes, there is a wide spread racism in Libya especially between the East and West, Black and White, and in the treatment of Libyans to Egyptians and Tunisians and between the ignorant and educated.

اويا Posted 2010-12-02

Salam alikum. Honestly, discrimination exists 100% in Libya. I have an opinion which you might consider racist but I think it is better that a white man marries only a white woman and a black man marries only a black woman or as we say in Fellagui “Everyone takes from his own skin”. Mixing up is an injustice even for kids they will give birth to. I don’t want anyone to say we are in the age of globalization and equality. For me offense is when you insult or oppress someone. This can be considered racist but mixing up races in colour is inacceptable for me. I repeat and reiterate it is an injustice for the mixed up children who don’t know whether they are white or black. Thank you!

Libyan Lady Posted 2011-01-18

All what I can say is that Libyans are brought up to believe in racism /prejudices. East Libya and West Libya; Blacks and whites Amazighs / Berbers and Arab origins. Libyans and other Northern Arab Countries. Prejudice in Libya is a way of living. I know this is sad to say about your own country but I am only saying simple facts of the Libyan reality. Prejudices and racism towards all that is different from oneself. Not to mention against the handicaped, the ill, the not-so-smart (down syndrome) etc. Libyans are living in the dark, they are completely controlled by their fears; fear of whatever is different due to ignorance. Ignorance causes prejudice and racism. Therefore, Libyans are considered ignorant as individuals.

Yolande Posted 3 days ago

Who are the white Libyans and would American whites see them as white; do they think of themselves as European descent? And who are the blacks. Who are the Arabs, Arab-berbers, tourags and toubou in relation to them. I notice that people from North Africa Turkey and even sub-saharan Africa consider any one light complexion white. I am form the caribbean of a mixtrue of African, Scottish and East Indian ancestry. I habve been told by a /Moroccan boyfriend and a Turkish fiance that my mother is white. However in America my mother is considered black. In America you could look as white as ever in complexion or as european as ever (facial features, hair, skin complexion assocaited with this human population), if you have African descent, you are black. It is called the "one drop rule". What people consider black or white is different in different parts of the world. The touareg consider themselves white, in America they would be black. Sudanese arabs would be considered black by ordinary americans, and Egyptians, Libyans,etc would be considered arab and brown, not white, despite some having light skin. Light skin in America does not equal white.some would be even considered black depending on how curly there is and if they did not speak or express where they are from. I for one sometimes is thought of as north african, esp. when I ahve ahead covering while at times I am though of as black or latin american.

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IT REMAINS FOR MR GOODLUCK TO TELL US THE INEVITABLE TRUTH, THAT NIGERIA IS ALSO BROKE. OR HOW ELSE CAN HE EXPLAIN HIS BELOW FAILURE PERFORMANCE. -1.5/100[/size]