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FreeIgboho:
You must be kidding, right? Because if u r serious, then u r a very shallow thinker, not qualified to be having this discussion. Here’s more teaching: Matrix is a good way to look at it. Everything in the matrix has a name but nothing there is real. So they can feed ten legged cows into the matrix and start calling them hhfskgunkun, doesn’t mean they exist anywhere. There are even names for things that never existed or no longer exist - unicorn, dinosaur, and such. But here’s the only thing you need learn: In Neo’d reality in the Matrix nothing is real (including Neo himself) except Neo’ consciousness!

Did “they” feed a bunch of signals into your consciousness and call it the Matrix?

Are “they” real?

FreeIgboho:
Just like Neo, the ONLY thing we can be 100% sure about is consciousness (the fact that things are being perceived)

Consciousness is not real. Who is Neo? What is the Matrix? What fact? What things are being perceived?

What is perception?

Wait, are you real?

……am I real


……what does “real” mean?

FreeIgboho:
You must be kidding, right? Because if u r serious, then u r a very shallow thinker, not qualified to be having this discussion. Here’s more teaching: Matrix is a good way to look at it. Everything in the matrix has a name but nothing there is real. So they can feed ten legged cows into the matrix and start calling them hhfskgunkun, doesn’t mean they exist anywhere. There are even names for things that never existed or no longer exist - unicorn, dinosaur, and such. But here’s the only thing you need learn: In Neo’d reality in the Matrix nothing is real (including Neo himself) except Neo’ consciousness!

Okay, you’re not real. You don’t exist anywhere. Even your thoughts are simulated. This exchange is not really happening. We are inside a quantum computer. Lmao
Wait, even the quantum computer we are in is a simulation.

CalvinGaye:
Wow! There must be something Spiritual about this. And I'm not talking Religion here. Before one churchgoer quotes me now and start talking end time bla bla bla!

I'm into the deeper Aura. The place carrying the paradigms of ALL Earthly Existence.

Have you been to the deepest Aura? The place carrying the instantiations of all possible existence.

Righteousness2:


Very very soon! A Mysterious Mystery will Shake all the Corners and Nations of the Earth. The Rapture is upon us.
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Mysterious mystery. Wet water. Fiery fire. Mountainous mountain. Canine Dog. Feline Cat.

FreeIgboho:
You tagged me. Well here’s some teaching:
Like I’ve said, the ONLY thing we can be 100% certain exists is thinking (consciousness). If you say otherwise, then tell us how you are certain anything else physically exists

The one that doesn’t know anything except reality is like the Matrix.

From whence come the subjects of your thoughts if not from the external objects that you perceive?

You can think of a tree because there are objects humans refer to as trees but you can’t think of hhfskgunkun because it doesn’t refer to anything in the external world.

Now if I say hhfskgunkun is another word for camel, then you will be able to think of hhfskgunkun as a camel.

In short, your thoughts prove the existence of the external world unless you’d rather pretend that your views aren’t nonsensical.

Even thoughts of god are limited to human or other natural superlatives because no one can describe what they don’t know or doesn’t exist. Any thought or idea you have can be traced to the perceptible physical world that exists.

That’s why god is the king of kings, the all powerful, omniscient, all wise, the lord who is brighter than a thousand suns whose voice roars like thunder. The lord who is a pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night. The summation of all consciousness etc etc etc

TenQ:
Aren't there many things that exist but are not physical
examples
Light Energy
Heat Energy

Note:
Physical things are also forms of Energy E=mc2

Seriously?!
You give light as an example of non physical things on one hand then use light as an example of physical things on the other hand. What kind of reasoning is this?

Just believe by faith as you’re asked and leave science alone. You’re just embarrassing yourself.

TenQ:
It simply means NOT in the physical realms

You know what else is NOT in the physical realm?
Rambambadoo the super duper artificer of the multiverse.

TenQ:
Some kinds of people despise truth: some by self deception others by confusion and some by noth thinking deep enough.
If the brain is really fogged, what can one expect?

So which of the despisers of truth are you or are you an amalgamation of the three kinds?

What are you doing to defog your brain?

TenQ:
It is liquid
It is funneled through your outer skull

Probably that's why your reasoning faculty is fogged!

The outer skull is made of spirit material so it is very permeable. That’s why the essentials are funneled through it.

If my reasoning faculty appears fogged when I spew the same type of arguments you make, what does that make your reasoning faculty?

TenQ:
What powers your body hardware?
Your CPU or the operating system?

My body hardware is powered by liquid emerald and unobtanium funneled through my outer skull.

People who don’t understand science and then try to use the knowledge base as support for their superstitions are amusing.

What is the mass of your consciousness?

What is the volume of your spirit?

The soul is like a software.

Crystyano:
There's no such thing as what you consider as a spirit....

In other words,
Your definition is impossible....

Are you aware of something called sarcasm?

Judging by the writings of the “enlightened” ones on this thread, I can surmise what a spirit is.

A spirit is the product of infinite mass multiplied by infinite velocity ignited by the divine energy that endows all living beings with the Most High frequency.

sonmvayina:
Beware of ignorance..it's is worse than slavery..

Take a good look in the mirror, if the Torah allows.

sonmvayina:
You are still learning...you will get there, but not with this mind set..

The confident way you people spew nonsensical ideas is amusing and amazing.

Thoroughly enslaved people. I would love to see a pope that isn’t melanin deficient and we will see the simple minded depravity of the whites as they leave the Catholic Church. The event would be known as the Second Great Schism.
It would be akin to the right wing savages in America who haven’t gotten over Barack Obama’s presidency. Meanwhile, these…….genii…….are posting the painting of a white boy and calling it god. Thoroughly enslaved people.

https://doctrineofdiscovery.org/dum-diversas/

Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas on 18 June, 1452. It authorised Alfonso V of Portugal to reduce any “Saracens (Muslims) and pagans and any other unbelievers” to perpetual slavery. This facilitated the Portuguese slave trade from West Africa. The same pope wrote the bull Romanus Pontifex on January 5, 1455 to the same Alfonso. As a follow-up to the Dum diversas, it extended to the Catholic nations of Europe dominion over discovered lands during the Age of Discovery. Along with sanctifying the seizure of non-Christian lands, it encouraged the enslavement of native, non-Christian peoples in Africa and the New World.

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso – to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit – by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

sonmvayina:
That's what God is...consciousness... Personified.

The confident way you people spew nonsensical ideas is amusing and amazing.

OtemAtum:
According to the origin of the universes, the first created beings including Yahweh, Atum, Allah, Moloch, Chimides, Euchlydes, Vishnu, Enlil, Enki, etc were told by God Almighty (Summation of Consciousness) to go into the universes and make findings. Most of the first beings ended their mission of making findings by settling in one planet or the other, originated religion there and make the people of those planets believe that they were the Almighty God. Then a time came when some of the first beings, e.g Atum, Ra, Jupiter, Olorun, Chimides, etc stopped being religious and faced findings (science) being the original reason of their existence, but some of them like Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, etc. refused to give up on religion and face science. Then at this point, there was battle between the beings who wanted science to reign and those who wanted religion. Then the gods of science captured the gods of religion in a spiritual cage. Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Esu, Sopono, Enlil, Anu, Siva, etc. were among the thousands of beings captured by the gods of religion.

Lmao

LordReed:
If god is nature why does nature need worship? Or belief any how?

Sure you don't need to be bothered by people who don't acknowledge your god as long as you don't bother us in return.

The most glaring problem with their “god is nature” nonsense is that they unwittingly exclude humans or things they find disagreeable about nature. Some include humans and say “god is the universe having a human experience” but when you ask if god has “virus experience”, they call YOU crazy!!!

Furthermore, does speaking in tongues mean speaking other worldly languages that people can translate and understand, or is it about making speech-like sounds?

A person speaking Tagalog fluently without any familiarity with the Philippines is different to a person making sounds that can be dismissed as gibberish.

Strongair:
Why Is it That White People Dont Use African names for Baptism?

Why are Africans using English names for baptism and not African names?

White god, white saints, white names, are symptoms of the white noise called Christianity.
Even the Hebrew names have been bleached.

budaatum:
A response from your Pastor

Dear Congregant,

I'm sure it seems like a lot of work to you, all that Praying and Studying and Teaching and Counselling and etc, and to you I might be failing. But remember I travel in a convoy of tinted glassed suvs, and fly everywhere in a private jet. You pay me thousands to educate your children in my private schools so my children can go study in schools abroad.

So you just keep paying your tithes on time and the Lord God will take care of God's own.

From a successful pastor.

Praise all the gods and all the pastors!! Halleluyah! Hallelume!!

Hear ye hear ye!
These are the anointed words of a deacon
Pay thy tithes and offering
For my meal of rice and stew
Is not complete without chicken

If Eve is a scientist, then Snow White is a professor of science. They both did “science” by eating the apples.

macof:
Is it not the book you got this information from? Abi my eyes dey pain me?



You have already told everyone what the book is about in many of your comments not just this one. You have stated the book knows some “homo erectus” and reincarnated “homo sapiens” who lived between 100,000 - 300,000 years ago by name
You have stated there were floods between 195,000 -230,000 years ago which destroyed civilisations and historical records

Like lmao how the hell is this even an issue you are trying to pass as facts? Or are there actual facts you are yet to mention?

Now i will ask you this because before you are even able to identify a fact in the book you need to have already known about the information being presented, you can’t know a new information to be fact without prior knowledge of the subject matter
So i ask, have you ever read actual history, anthropology, palaeontology or evolutionary biology books? Maybe text books or academic journals by experts in the fields?
Or you just take otem’s word for it? Is this book the first book you would ever read?

So do tell me the facts because so far you have done a horrible PR for Otem or go call otem himself here since you say he’s on nairaland

Lol come and stop me from talking about it
Look at you get so worked up and emotional
Are you in a cult? Is this book some kind of precursor to a cult initiation?

The guy is Otem defending his arrant bullshit and then pretending that he doesn’t believe it.
Imagine a “free thinker” promoting revelations as knowledge or something worth venerating. A f#ckng joke. He has multiple accounts for the absurd ruse.

KingJahzmineKing:
Thanks brother let me quickly add this calculation...
N>14
I>9
G>7
E>5
R>18
I>9
A>1

14+9+7+5+18+9+1=63
....
63 backward is 36 states of Nigeria

Dtruthspeaker:
I like the connections but I have to ask where are the numbers 14, 9,7 coming from? How did you attach it to Nigeria?

KingJahzmineKing:
According to the English Alphabetical order, A is 1 ,B is 2.......down to Z which is 26

Dtruthspeaker:
Wow! This I applaudable, I am indeed impressed! Clap, clap clap!

Good to see people delivering deliciously Good thinking.

Now, the Satans will try to replicate their evil version as they always do.

This exchange is……….

A001:
That confused commenter that has no job offline and keeps himself busy by following me from one thread to the other, is better ignored.

Don’t mind me. Just catching cruise like they say.

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A001:
The Report comes handy to handle nonsensical posts.

You don’t say!!! That’s surprising!

A001:
Arindin, an epitome of confusion.

Don’t be harsh, homo. I’m a bit confused because I spent some time guarding Jehovah’s spiritual cage and didn’t have anyone to talk to except Domino Reverad.

A001:
How is A001 the same person as Otem? Ode.

Am I also the same person as the authors of the other books I've shared on Nairaland? When you've a single-digit IQ, you'd make such a bogus claim.

Okay, OtemA001 with the astronomical IQ.

A001:
I thought my signature made my field clear.

If you're not an Ifaodu devotee, that means your knowledge on it is not deep as some of your comments have shown.

Okay. I can do so when I'm less busy.

I don't understand what you mean by the highlighted. According to Otem, he was given the content of the book via revelations from Atum in a number of languages, but mainly Seriot, which he says it's a dead, ancient language.

He gave an explanation of this in the book, and the mechanism of the information transmission even has a scientific explanation.

Then, I don't know where the author told you he wrote the book based on assumptions. That's your assertion, not the author's.

It's common knowledge that most of the histories of our forefathers are lost or never recorded/documented. Thus, it's quite possible those histories of the deities are true.

I feel your main grouse with him is because, unlike religionists, his approach and style to narrating the histories of the entities looks scientific. It's all physical, nothing superstitious, supernatural, or spiritual.

After all, what's seen as supernatural or mysterious by humans with our limited intelligence and senses doesn't seem so to an advanced being or a highly evolved entity.

Many things he says about gods and goddesses may not sit well with an adherent like you (just like the average religionists) because of your emotional attachments to these deities, but an agnostic like me finds the work quite seminal, especially due to the author's scientific approach to things.

Who will read Otem's book and research objectively about the histories of our local gods and goddesses and those of Allah and Yahweh in the text and online and still see these deities the same way? I doubt a honest, highly intelligent person won't change his attitude toward these deities.

You clearly know very little about the literature you're commenting about hence your erroneous statements about it.

If not for the book, I will still continue to see our native culture and deities as evil and demonic as Qur'an and the Bible preach. Only a person who hasn't read the literature will post such ill-informed opinion about it.

As said earlier, it's your opinion which holds no water with an agnostic like me.

Interesting.

Okay.

Even without reading Ifaodu corpus and the books you read, I know the highlighted already thanks to Otem's book that narrated histories on how these two foreign religions are connected to and have their roots in our indigenous religions and many of such in Africa, especially ancient Egypt.

It's obvious you're criticizing something you know next to nothing about. It's unreasonable.

A001 defending his work as Otem is very amusing. Why don’t you go write some nonsense and watch a Chelsea match?