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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 6:46pm On Jul 02, 2022
OkCornel:
If you don’t know the difference between a Semite and a Caucasian, I guess you’re in the same group with them.
What is a Semite?
What is a Caucasian?

Arbitrary classifications that have no basis in reality.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 6:42pm On Jul 02, 2022
OkCornel:
For the umpteenth time, that is not a white man.

Understand the difference between an European and an Israeli. From the hair texture, skin tone etc.

And by the way, you can find Colton Burpo, Akiane Kramarik and other witnesses who corroborate same…then argue with them.

This is a different topic altogether which has been discussed on multiple threads on nairaland. You arrived very late to this party.
I don’t need to argue with Ms. Kramarik nor Mr. Burpo (and his Pastor father). A girl paints a picture of a white man in Chicago and calls it Jesus while a pastor writes a book claiming his son went to heaven. Only gullible people believe such.

But you people have been mentally enslaved for a while so I know I’m just pissing in the wind. Enjoy your Chicago Jesus. At least they can depict their god in their own image while y’all are seemingly incapable of such a simple task.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown:
OkCornel:
Their level of intelligence is in single digits, I don’t expect them to comprehend the basic logic you explained here.

My argument the whole time has always been on EXISTENCE.

Theirs is just all over the place.
Lmao. Stop talking about anyone’s intelligence dude. You with the Chi Town white boy Jesus.

Even if one ignores the probability of the “pious fraud” and agree that the dude really did exist, what does that prove?

Does it now prove a virgin gave birth to him in a manger, or that he could perform supernatural acts, or that the he was the son of the Jewish god?
The god of Israel has to be real for it to even have an “only begotten son” with a Greek name.

There is usually no argument about the existence of Mohammed but does his existence prove the incredible claims made about him or justify the madness of the Islamist murderers?

EA Adeboye exists and is a very pious man. But does that prove that he drove 300km on an empty gas tank like he claimed?
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 6:12pm On Jul 02, 2022
budaatum:
Not to claim he existed or not, but "he didn’t exist at all" is one possible reason he may not have been known outside his stomping grounds. How about "he did exist but I wasn't interested enough", or "his stomping ground was not my stomping ground" or "I was too ignorant or busy to know about him then and I now claim he never existed at all"? I could after all be the most popular and famous individual in the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun but not exist as far as an individual in Oshogbo or Kano was concerned.

Basically, can I not be known and unknown at the same time?
Or he didn’t exist at all because mythology and allegory do not relate fact and at best embellished tales if not outright lies.

Shango could be after all the most famous Yoruba king but not exist as far as an individual in Shanghai is concerned. Regardless, he couldn’t send thunderbolts to harm his enemies because that is an obvious incredible and improbable claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown:
budaatum:
KnownUnknown, MindHacker9009, do note that there is a difference between the existence of a Jesus Christ, and the truth of what is read about a Jesus Christ in the Bible.
What truth is read in the Bible?
The word “truth” ceases to have any discernible meaning when it comes to religious beliefs.

In normal usage truth is that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.

What is in accordance with reality about mythology of the jews that y’all place on a pedestal?

What truth is read about the Jew with the Graeco Roman name who was the “Christ”?


Abraham Lincoln’s existence does not validate the movie Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

Just like the existence of a Yeshua in the 1st century does not mean he was a “Christ” and all that it entails.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Become An Atheist by KnownUnknown: 12:35pm On Jul 02, 2022
Sweetplum:
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At the bolded, I hereby hand you over to Islamists. Since you love being suppressed. You are free to dislike Christian practice.
Peace.
They are free to come. I know for a fact that Allah can’t stop bullets.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 12:31pm On Jul 02, 2022
[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=114349990][/quote]You already said that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Become An Atheist by KnownUnknown: 12:29pm On Jul 02, 2022
Sweetplum:
It is cos it gives those practicing and others tolerance.
I won’t dispute that it has that effect on some people just like it has had the opposite effect on others. Historically, it has been very intolerant and it spread through violence and subjugation. It is also inherently intolerant because of its doctrines and dogma.

Sweetplum:
You are free to write gibberish about the Bible without the fear of someone coming to cut your neck.
That’s a lie. Christianity’s violence has largely abated but it is not extinct. Also, christianity doesn’t just limit itself to violence as it also tries to use the legal system to impose its will.

Sweetplum:
But pls, dare the Qur'an. I m begging you to dare them in Islam and you ll see that suya is different from barbecue.
The Qu’ran is just as nonsensical as the Bible. The god of an Arab doesn’t mean anything to me and I damn sure don’t believe some Arabian war lord spoke to something called an angel in a cave.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 12:23pm On Jul 02, 2022
MindHacker9009:
Shows how backward you are, you think youtube is only used by jokers like yourself, @OkCornel, @MaxInDHouse and co
Oh no!! YouTube is also used by jokers like yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 12:15pm On Jul 02, 2022
[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=114349655][/quote]Lol. Your multiple semester hours of YouTube education is something to behold.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Become An Atheist by KnownUnknown: 12:14pm On Jul 02, 2022
Sweetplum:
So...if Christianity brings freedom of speech, how dare an atheist insult that freedom.
How is freedom of speech dependent on christianity?
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 12:06pm On Jul 02, 2022
budaatum:
I don't think Jesus or Christianity could possibly have been significant enough for much to have been written about him or it during his time, and if anything was written it likely would not have survived. He was not exactly known outside his stomping ground until he was allegedly killed.

I think it would be like Moses of whom nothing at all was written about until many century's later, and not by or from eyewitness accounts or anything of the sort but from tales and stories passed down from mouth to mouth.
Not to support the asinine OP that he was created by the Romans, but what if he wasn’t known inside or outside his stomping grounds because he didn’t exist at all.

Tony Montana is relatively famous for being kicked out of Cuba, arriving in Miami, and turning into a legendary drug lord. But the story, even though believable, is total fabrication with the kernel of truth being that criminals from Cuba really did go to Miami and a few of them were probably named Tony.

Jesus could be based on a type of ascetic from that era and the rest of the story is based on a type of mythology that existed before Jesus’ was written.

Some of the tropes in the story are apparent if you one is aware of the ideas it based on.

Hercules performed 12 labors, Jesus had 12 disciples.

Jesus in a manger, the magi, gold, frankincense, and myrrh, “30 years”, “3” days in the tomb, the missing years of his life, etc are evidence of the trope
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 11:19am On Jul 02, 2022
OkCornel:
He’s a Middle Easterner (Jew to be precise)
I’m pretty sure that boy is from Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A. and is not a Jew. He is an American of European descent.

OkCornel:
A painting of Jesus by Akiane Kramarik.
Let me get this straight. White girl in America paints a picture of a white American and calls it Jesus?
It is a painting of a bearded white man. How is this Jesus?! Did the Jesus guy leave any picture or bust of himself that can be used to verify this girl’s painting?

OkCornel:
You can read up more on her story. Quite an interesting one. Also look out for Colton Burpo too.
There stories are unverifiable and incredible. A painting of a random white man is just a painting of a random white man. There is nothing more to it. Unless the Jesus guy appeared in the flesh and the girl then painted him, there is nothing believable about her claim. Even then, proof of the encounter would be required and the words of a little white girl and her parents are thoroughly insufficient.
The four year old white boy who went to heaven is even more ridiculous. I wonder if he wrote the story or his parent wrote the nonsense story.
Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by KnownUnknown: 11:00am On Jul 02, 2022
OkCornel:
I hope I will see something intelligent today.
Hey, intelligent guy!!
Who is the white dude on your profile?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Become An Atheist by KnownUnknown: 10:13am On Jul 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The man who singlehandedly killed thousands with just a jawbone wasn't fighting with human strength rather most powerful Thanos of the universe is the one fighting through that man's body. 2Kings 19:35
So while those fighting against him can only see one man in their midst all the forces of Titan is fighting against them!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Become An Atheist by KnownUnknown:
An atheist is someone still recovering from religious indoctrination. When you’re fully cured, you’ll realize that all spirituality is nonsense including your god, his god, and her god. And that goes for spirits, angels, demons, and souls.
All ideas of the “divine” are borne out of religious indoctrination and the definition of god is totally dependent on the vocabulary and knowledge base of the believer. So god can have all kinds of description depending on who is talking.

Also, the most popular gods are obvious mythological characters. The abrahamic religion is based on incredible and improbable tales. Incredible and improbable tales are usually not believed unless they form part of a religious belief.
Samson and his magical jawbone is believed by the faithful but the faithful won’t believe that Pegasus and his flying horse saved people. Unless of course some people collect the tale of Pegasus as part of a collection they term “the word of god”. Regardless if its Word of God or Word of Dog, the authors are remain human.

What’s an atheist? Someone who doesn’t believe in “God”

What is God? A “supreme being” that “created” the world.

What is a “supreme being”huh?
Who told you anything was “created”huh?
Even if the universe was “created”, what makes you think it’s your particular “supreme being”?

Again, what is a “supreme being”?
Is it akin to “human being”?
There are multitudes of human beings, can we assume there are multitudes “supreme beings”?


What is a spirit?
What is a demon?
What is an angel?

How are they different from other mythical beings like fairies?
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:49pm On Jun 28, 2022
sonmvayina:
Nah..

I follow my Igbo omenani..and odinani..just as my ancestors received it..
You oleaginous Jewphile, omenani and odinani are not even practiced in your dreams talk less of reality.
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:46pm On Jun 28, 2022
sonmvayina:
You need psychiatric evaluation,..please check in a hospital.

I will pay for it..
I would be worried if you called me sane. Keep your pittance in your pocket.
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:21pm On Jun 28, 2022
sonmvayina:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBSRiwy4T7k&list=RDLVLBSRiwy4T7k&index=4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F93OTYcQBKc
The Jewish “messiah” is America. It’s because of America that they have been able to establish an apartheid state in a land that doesn’t belong to them.

The magical messiah should have shown up when the European Jews were getting gassed and barbecued by the Nazis. Bunch of freaking nonsense.

Messiah my nuts
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:16pm On Jun 28, 2022
sonmvayina:
And you think the alternative is to worship an idol that was created by Rome?
And you think the alternative is to worship an idol that was created by Jerusalem?
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:15pm On Jun 28, 2022
sonmvayina:
Nobody is dwelling on the story.
Learn the spiritual messages in them.


The letter killeth
If the letter truly killeth, you’d be dead.

“Spiritual” is synonymous with nonsense.

“Nobody is dwelling on the story” but you.

sonmvayina:
The laws he gave to Jewish ancestors that they wrote down and called the Torah is the same law that he gave our Igbo ancestors and we call it the omenani and odinani and he also gave to the Indian ancestors that they call the Vedas..
Some Jews wrote down laws they came up with and you claim “he” gave them the laws. When some one says “he” impregnated a virgin, you starting clucking like a crazy chicken saying it’s impossible.
Just where do you draw the line? He can dictate laws to some stone carver on a mountain but he can’t f#ck virgins?
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 3:33pm On Jun 26, 2022
MindHacker9009:
If someone that never saw this event, tells you during the European colonization of Nigeria that one Nigerian man was born of a virgin and called himself the messiah. He fed 5000 people with one loaf of bread and two fishes, walked on water and did many great miracles but he was crucified by the european soldiers because some Nigerian priests did not like him and he rose up again on the third day, ascended into heaven and the messiah promised to come back soon and nearly two thousand years since he ascended to heaven he has not returned to Nigeria.

The question now is how did millions of people fall for this fable?

Better we now follow the 613 laws of GOD in the Old Testament that are applicable today than this BIG fable.

613 laws of GOD: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/756399/jewish/The-613-Commandments-Mitzvot.htm

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Sonmvayina and his Jew worship. His whole argument being that one story sounds ridiculous and farfetched but the story he believes in totally true despite it being equally ridiculous and farfetched.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Donations The Time For Show Off In Church? by KnownUnknown: 1:46pm On Jun 26, 2022
Toktee:
And their giving is limited to the church.

I visited my elder sister is very very rich.... She love church like her mind depends on it.


Three days ago she was praying in the morning and there is this point she made.. She asked God go help us to be of help to someone while we expect same from people around us.

Yesterday someone came to the house and was like it's been more than three days that she and her baby have not eating anything tangible.... I was touched.

When she returned I do not know how to approach her so I started by saying....
Sister there are some prayer points we need not pray cos if it's time to do it we will withdraw.... She asked me to go straight to the point.. I told her about the lady and her babe and reminder ber of her prayer point.... My sister flares up with a question...... Like what's ber business?, and pls her head is full pls.


That same night she send pastor 50k for my presence, house need to see how she the spend for church.



Who are we deceiving?

God or man?
The god of quid pro quo does not care about the poor. His followers know they have to bribe him by giving money to the church/pastor in order to ensure their prosperity and absolve their conscience of guilt from their deplorable existence.
Their Jesus may care about the poor but that’s only in the book of stories. In reality, their god has been a god of greed since the Roman government created their nonsense religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Something Better With Your “tithes” by KnownUnknown(op): 4:19pm On Jun 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The tithe is for God and God alone but since you people don't know what it means you may spend your money on whatever you think is virtuous. Know that the tithe has nothing to do with your charity works o, it must be paid to God not man! smiley
I don’t pay tithe to no one and I just gave a different perspective of what the tithe really is.
I may be wrong but I’m 100% sure “God” won’t object to what I wrote just like “God” has never collected a single cent of tithe.

Regardless, when you get instructions from the Governing Body, come back and tell me what “God” said.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Something Better With Your “tithes” by KnownUnknown(op): 4:14pm On Jun 21, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
An appluadible presentation. However, when we obey God, we know woe shall before he who doth not obey The Lord being a keeper of The Lord's House!
It might be “The Lord’s House” but there is always a “man of the house” called Pastor Reverend Father Daddy Bishop Randy Fella, Jr. And Mr. Fella, Jr, usually succumbs to the serpent of greed and starts feeding fat on the Lord’s supper.
Maybe their woe comes after they die and meet the Lord but that’s only doctrine. In reality, it seems “the Lord” approves of them.

Dtruthspeaker:
But, the question really is, is thy Church, truly the Tabernacle of The Lord or "The Place Where The Lord hath Put His Name" as Written? If not your tithe is a waste. Then it would be better if you gave to the poor
Is there really a Tarbanacle of the Lord when even the oldest Tarbanacle is the den of thieves and liars?

The only way there can be a “Tarbanacle for the Lord” is for the people to return to the communal style of the creators of the belief system that the Catholics turned to Christianity. If they can’t live like ascetics (who really wants to?!) , then they should at least own the church in common and abolish the hierarchy that leads to “divine exploitation”.

Unfortunately, the system is set up for exploitation despite the appearance that it is set up for the welfare of the adherents.
Christianity Etc › Do Something Better With Your “tithes” by KnownUnknown(op): 12:17pm On Jun 21, 2022
There is nothing new about clerical authorities getting rich of the flock but I’m sure some people still think and ask, what does god need more for?

The priests get to live comfortably because that is the way it has been set up since ancient times. Plato alluded to it in The Republic, the Priests(Levites. Even their name calls to mind “levy”) in the Bible and their tithes, ethnographical stories of ancient Egypt and the priests of Amun and Osiris, Charlemagne and the Catholic Church in Europe, the history of the Catholic Church (Vatican bank), prosperity preachers etc.
The argument was that since the priesthood included the smartest males in society whose job included both sacred and profane duties, and who could, by virtue of being smarter than the rest and having control of the military, turn into tyrants, it was wise for them to live in communes where they held property in common. Since they had no personal property and were fully dedicated to the diety and the law, the society had to provide for them, hence the tithe or levy.

Overtime, the concept became perverted and the priests became tyrants anyway and got very corrupt and wealthy e.g. Catholic Church who build wealth on earth while preaching heaven to the people.

Pay if you must, but maybe charity begins at home not church.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sadistic Nature Of Earth-life by KnownUnknown: 2:26pm On Jun 20, 2022
Image123:
Lol, so i had some honesty and rationality. That should make news undecided
It’s definitely news.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sadistic Nature Of Earth-life by KnownUnknown: 2:18pm On Jun 20, 2022
Image123:
i think i just confused a couple more people undecided Let me post cheesy
The only confused person is you and your ilk. When you conclude your verbose and meandering write up with the above, it highlights the fact that you know that everything you wrote is nonsense. The last vestige of honesty and rationality in you made you confess that everything you wrote is a confused mess that does not make a lick of sense.
You didn’t confuse anybody but expose the nonsensical nature of your beliefs.

What kind of person tries to elucidate, acts glad that he failed, and then laughs at the person he tried to teach?

Christianity is already deplorable and silly but you Christians and your prideful ignorance are something to behold.
Politics › Re: 70% Of Nigerian Politicians Are Lunatics – Peter Obi by KnownUnknown:
ofuonyebi:
Peter Obi is also a Lunatic
because is one of the blind politicians Nigeria have
who never learn that a POT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO CALL THE KETTLE BLACK!

You cant jump the gun...you are not a saint either
useless idiot
A whole lot of propaganda and nonsense about this character. Isn’t he cut from the same cloth as the rest? Search Anambra state on the internet and it’s the same type of news about strife, dysfunction, and incompetence you get in other states. So where does he get the gall to run his mouth? Egypt?


He left Atiku’s group of kleptomaniacs me now he is a saint? So all you have to do to bamboozle the cretins is to switch parties?
Christianity Etc › Re: UK Govt Shuts Down Tobi Adegboyega’s SPAC Nation Over £1.9 Million Fraud by KnownUnknown: 2:54pm On Jun 18, 2022
The U.K. goverment giveth thy God and church, the U.K. government taketh thy God and church.
God save the Queen, f#ck the rest of y’all.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sadistic Nature Of Earth-life by KnownUnknown: 11:28am On Jun 18, 2022
Today I learned that God is alcohol.
God is spirit and it has a spiritual body.
So, alcohol(spirit) in a bottle (spiritual body) like a Genie in a lamp.

Children have imaginary friends and we call it cute. Adults have imaginary friends and they call it spirituality. Clowns
Christianity Etc › Re: The Sadistic Nature Of Earth-life by KnownUnknown: 2:22pm On Jun 17, 2022
justcool:
Please calmly read comment again, and also my reply to wirinet.
I have answered these questions and I won’t repeat them again.

Thanks
You are in California!!!
Why do you think L Ron Hubbard's spiritual views have gained more ground than Oskar Ernst Bernhardt's. Do you think Oskar Ernst Bernhardt would be more popular if Tom Cruise adopts his views?

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