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LordReed:
I don't need to read the rest to understand that you are more eager to accept that aliens are responsible for the feats of human ingenuity than you are to accept human ingenuity for itself whether or not you have a racial bias.

Eurocentrism or “white supremacy” is
insidious that its victims happily parrot its nonsense and denigrate themselves. Notice how virtually all the “alien knowledge” is attributed to the ancient achievements of people with highly pigmented skin. It’s either that or they whitewash the images of these ancient people or attribute everything ancient to the Greeks, the founders of “western” civilization.

GloriousGbola:
Go easy on the hyper aggressive militant atheism. All it does is rub people the wrong way.

Another kind of fanaticism, if you will.

I’m not an atheist or militant. I know my prose “can rub people the wrong way” but it’s still the truth. “Catch more flies with honey” but I really wanna kill these flies. Leave seeds on their minds that their gods, who look like other people, are nonsense. Even if the seed doesn’t sprout, there will always be a voice in heads whispering “this is nonsense”.

GloriousGbola:
Hitler genocided jews

Burma also genocided Muslims

So did serbia

Just to name a few more recent incidents of religious persecution.

Forget hitler and the Jews or the Burmese Buddhist savages and their Muslims. European and colonialist Christians take the cake. The ones who justifies their savagery by denigrating the humanity of their victims. Now, there victims are the mourners who wail louder than the bereaved celebrating ignorance in the name of religion.

“Despite some problems with this story—What was so terrible about seeing Noah drunk? Why curse Canaan rather than Ham? How long was the servitude to last? Surely Ham would have been the same color as his brothers?—it eventually became the foundational text for those who wanted to justify slavery on Biblical grounds. In its boiled-down, popular version, known as “The Curse of Ham,” Canaan was dropped from the story, Ham was made black, and his descendants were made Africans.”

Bishop Stephen Elliott, of Georgia, also knew how to look on the bright side. Critics of slavery should “consider whether, by their interference with this institution, they may not be checking and impeding a work which is manifestly Providential. For nearly a hundred years the English and American Churches have been striving to civilize and Christianize Western Africa, and with what result? Around Sierra Leone, and in the neighborhood of Cape Palmas, a few natives have been made Christians, and some nations have been partially civilized; but what a small number in comparison with the thousands, nay, I may say millions, who have learned the way to Heaven and who have been made to know their Savior through the means of African slavery! At this very moment there are from three to four millions of Africans, educating for earth and for Heaven in the so vilified Southern States—learning the very best lessons for a semi-barbarous people—lessons of self-control, of obedience, of perseverance, of adaptation of means to ends; learning, above all, where their weakness lies, and how they may acquire strength for the battle of life. These considerations satisfy me with their condition, and assure me that it is the best relation they can, for the present, be made to occupy.”

https://time.com/5171819/christianity-slavery-book-excerpt/?amp=true

Can you imagine?!! This animal calling people “semi-barbarous” while displaying every characteristic of a uncouth rapacious savage. What do we have left of the African diaspora after centuries of this Christian nonsense? A bunch of slavish people living in pitiful conditions with their minds shackled by superstition and arrant nonsense. Thinking some fucking Jewish version of Zeus is their deity and some dude popularly depicted as white is his son.

The Christians say your skin is the “curse of ham”, and y’all nod along like fucking lemmings.

Christian bigotry is definitely not like the past but the virulent hatred that underlies the religion since it became the tool of conquest is still there. The European wealthy class still operate under Dum Diversas with the help of their myopic and disgustingly ignorant African “leaders”. Perpetual slaves. As for the Arab slaves, the Christians learned some of their animal behavior from your Arab masters.

And the overrated Jesus character can gnash his teeth all the way to his hell.

budaatum:
Sounds like a Trinity.

Is there some other Christianity, one not constituted with Roman, or Catholic, or European?

Oh yeah? Add the the present day Nigerian Christian institutions, it becomes a Quadrinity……..like the “four elements”.

No, I just clarified the Roman origin to prevent any reference to Egypt or Africa or the myriad of other claims when it comes to the ultimate source of the beliefs that forms the foundation of Christianity.

budaatum:
What is "white JuJu"?

Would you abandon it?

Christianity as constituted by the ancient Roman Empire and proliferated by the Catholic Church and its European offshoots.

I already did. I abandoned it due to the prima facile absurdity that it entails. Now that I am gaining understanding of the prototype, I marvel at the brilliance of the originators of the prototype and feel nothing but disgust for Christianity considering the strife it has played a huge role in, caused, or excused for 1500 years now. Pity and sometimes disgust at its victims.

Ken4Christ:
You are already condemned since you don't believe in Jesus - John 3:18. You are just waiting for the execution of your judgment.

By Jove, how can I be executed when Jesus, John, and any other Jackass would be barred from Utopia?!! All that blood and guts in a fiery lake threats only work in Christians. Since we are talking about Utopia, Christians aren’t decent enough to be allowed. You and your god can go to hell.

Ken4Christ:
Chronic unbeliever. The d
Chronic unbeliever. The devil is happy with you. And your space is already booked in hell. I can just imagine how they will torture you for your foolishness.

Ken4Christ:
I hear you. Your brain will reset when you get there.

I’m not going to hell. I’m going to reside in the mansions the lord made suitable for me. 12 of them.

Ken4Christ:
Unbelief will escort you to hell. They love people like you. Keep it up.

Hell is nonsense created when the philosophers/priests had to create an authoritarian figure and consequences for people they were trying to civilize. The idea of hell/land of the dead/Tartarus/etc was borne out of the setting of the sun to explain where it went at night.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus cursed the fig tree and it stopped producing. This affirm the fact that the spiritual controls the physical.

The Mesopotamian god borrowed by the Hebrews does not exist, talkless of his “son”. Jesus did not exist nor curse a fig tree. There is no reason to think such a character existed if you don’t hold particular religious beliefs.
To affirm the so called “spiritual”, you can’t point to a supernatural occurrence in a book, especially a sacred book. You have to give real evidence that is incontrovertible.

I read in a profane book that the Emperor Vespasian (who some believe had a hand in editing the gospels) healed the lame and the blind because he was “divine” but I would be stupid to believe such. Why? Because, it’s outside the bounds of rationality.
Would you believe me if I told you that I met a 450 year old man on the banks of the Euphrates who could breathe under water without equipment? Or maybe I read it in a sacred book. Does that make it believable?

Ken4Christ:
He can ask a plant not to grow and it will not grow. The world is ruled by words.

Tales by moonlight.
Unless they refer to something and can create some type of mental image in at least one hearer, words are nothing but noise produced by muscles in the throat and mouth. If you could time travel to the past and meet some ancient English people, your words would probably be noise to them because they wouldn’t understand. And sometimes, words are just noisy nonsense regardless of the hearer. Christians speaking in tongues is an example.
The world is not ruled by words unless you believe in an imaginary and magical human-like entity that can abracadabra things into existence.

Ken4Christ:
It is God who ordained it to be so by the word he pronounced.

That’s your belief. For those who don’t share your beliefs, it’s the equivalent of saying “sky wizard cast a spell so the trees can grow”.
Your claim only makes sense when you substitute god for nature because that’s what god(s) is(are).

Ken4Christ:
This is why a fig tree stopped producing overnight when Jesus cursed it.

Jesus is also a personification of nature, not a real person who cursed a tree. He is an allegorical creature l.

Ken4Christ:
Everything in life is presently sustained by the word of God.
The day God says its over, this present age will end. And that day is coming closer.

Yes, this present age will end just like other ages ended but the world did not end. If you understood what an age is, you will realize the present one doesn’t end till around 2150 C.E., then it will come around again in around 26000 years. Why?
To put it sacred terms: Because “god ordained it that way”.
To put it in sacred terms: It’s the “laws of physics” ,meaning description of nature.

Ken4Christ:
But it is true. If it was not first created in the realm of the spirit. It will never appear in the physical. The spiritual gave birth to the physical.

It has never been shown to be true. You can’t just say things are true or untrue because of sentiments. The idea of “forms” or in your case “spirits” was created when the philosopher/priests did not have the knowledge of the physical world that have since been accumulated.
The idea of “animating spirit” was borne out of ignorance of how some things have life and motion while some don’t. While mankind hasn’t figured out the whole of existence, we have found “spirits” and “forms” to be crude ideas about nature’s functioning.

Ken4Christ:
The fruit trees were created in Chapter one but they were not yet visible in the natural world. Chapter two was just a physical process to make them visible. Everything you see in the natural first existed in the realm of the spirit.

Ahh, the “theory of forms” the ancient Christian “thinkers” borrowed from Plato, who borrowed it from more ancient people.

tctrills:
Or saved a billion souls

What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster who has saved a quadrillion souls?!! The almighty FSM whose image is in every living thing.

BelovedCityWatch:
May the Grace of God rest upon blessed souls here,
and The Blood of the Lamb cleanse from all impurities, Amen!

Before the lamb, there was the calf! and the successors of those who created the calf and the lamb continue to fatten on your ignorance. The successors aren’t as smart or clever but they still have you believing in “impurities cleansed by blood”.

The two principles religion is founded on
1. Deceiving the vulgar
2. Cultivating ignorance

Barcalee:
Religious slaves,even the educated ones too. But Jesus said even him does not know when the end will come only his father in heaven

Pointing at their shackles while your shackle chokes you. Talking about “jesus and his father” and “jesus coming back” like the perpetually enslaved. What is coming; from where? How will super duper Jew who never existed come back?
Shango is also coming back. May he strike you with lightening.

BelovedCityWatch:
hahaha! Na so e pain you?
I'm not nice at all
Bye felicia.

Bless your heart.

BelovedCityWatch:
it's only a "simple minded bastard" that will use a left hand describe his father's house. Nevertheless your rants doesn't tally to our discussion here, moreover we have almost 24hours of light daily here even without using Electricity Generator and we thank God for the new beginning in Nigeria, it's better you relocate from the slum you live in to a better environment,bless you.

Keep dreaming, you benighted bastard. Write insults then end it with “bless you”. Bleep you. My response was more than appropriate to you morons and your stupid religious fantasies.
Well run societies have 24hr security and they don’t have to thank some silly god for it.
Now go put on your generator and fight the darkness since you only have “almost 24hrs” electricity. Thank your god you are not located a fault line otherwise you fuckwits would be battling the “demons of earthquakes” and the “principalities of tremors”

Maynman:
Bro, the English word for brain comes from “brain locker” so when you say I have a brain, you mean I have a brain locker. But what does the thinking in the brain(brainlocker) is the mind, you can call it soul or Om.
I’m not talking about the location of the mind, I’m talking about the mind itself, can we extract it?

I don’t care about your mumbo jumbo, whether you call it brain locker or foot locker. Soul, Om, or Mo.

LordReed:
Maynman, seems you are conflating brain and mind. Brain is physical, mind is immaterial. Brain in inside your head aka brainbox while mind has no physical location.

I think the word you are looking for is intangible not immaterial. The mind may be intangible but it does have a physical location or it is the intangible function of a physical object, the brain/nervous system. The so called “immaterial” is just another way to refer to spirits and souls.

PastorMIsBack:
Sometimes it is burnout. 10 seminars in 10 days is excessive but some don't know how to say 'No' politely. They want to be everywhere maybe because of the 'envelopes' they are given at the end, or because they don't want someone else to do it. I don't know.

Some pastors rarely take holidays away with their families because they don't want another pastor to take over the pulpit as they fear the congregation may love the message of the locum pastor more or something like that

STFU!!

11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

With the sorry state of power generation in Nigeria, you assclowns have been living in darkness for 40 years. Lucky for you simple minded bastards, the country is not situated on a fault line like Japan, otherwise you’d have 40 years of earthquake destruction with no progress on how to fortify buildings.

Just like the “slavery in the garden of eden”, your so called understanding is nothing but your interpretation of the allegories. You don’t understand them and your arrogance won’t let you admit that it’s just your interpretation. The quote below should read “That is your interpretation. My own interpretation is that those……”

budaatum:
That is your understanding. My own understanding is that those…

Interpret- to decide what the intended meaning of something is.

Understand- to know the meaning of something that someone says.

MindHacker9009:
Because sense is not common if not believers would have known by now that the Jesus Christ being preached today is a BIG SCAM.

But your God is totally not a scam.

sonmvayina:
Which part of the new testament remotely makes any sense?

This is not about the New Testament. The question is about the logic in the Hebrew Scriptures. If logic means sound reasoning then sound reasoning can be found within scriptures because they exist independently of scriptures and are just included in said scriptures. Therefore, both old and new, and dare I say future testament, have sound reasoning. However, they also contain illogical ideas
So, if your knowledge of self lead you to find reason within the Hebrew Scriptures why criticize others who found reason in the New Testament? After all, they both contain sense and nonsense. The nonsense are just exceedingly clever.

sonmvayina:
I exist, therefore I am..

I think, therefore I am (exist) Cogito ergo sum
What you wrote is a mere tautology.

Cogito ergo sum is an overrated quote. Do things have to think to exist?

sonmvayina:
It's all about knowledge of self...the Hebrew Scriptures makes perfect sense to me, because it is based on logic...

Really? Show the logic in these scriptures.
If “knowledge of self” led you to conclude that the Hebrews scriptures are “logical”, why criticize the “knowledge of self” that led others to Jesus and Christianity?

sonmvayina:
Worshiping anything outside of yourself is idolatry..

Similar to worshipping the imagination of some other people?

peggywebbs:
Lol... you think I haven't read it? That's why I'm laughing at you. It's either you hate reading or you have limited education. If you can't understand what is in front of you, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying stop engaging in arguments you have no knowledge about. Read a book to save your life.

If you've read that article, it will explain to you clearly how Zeus is not the God or Allah. God or Allah, is not a sky God or thunder God. Zeus only wields the weather as a weapon, like Thor, he controls the thunder and sea storms. He is considered the head of the Greek gods. Zeus is the father of the Greek gods and considered the ruler of men.

God is not the ruler of men, he is the Creator, Father, he doesn't control the storms or thunder, he owns it all, he made them all.

Stop confusing yourself. In that same article, they mentioned that the Hinduism equivalent of Zeus is the god Dyaus. Thor is the Norse version of Zeus. They all control the weather, they are all seen holding an instrument Thor like Sango, holds a hammer, Zeus holds a Lightening bolt...the hammer and the bolt all control the thunder and lightning.

Read a book to save your life.

After all was said and done, Zeus created man, Brahmin breathed the breathe of life, Vishnu preserved life, and Shiva commenced his cosmic dance to sustain the universe and in time destroy it. Gilgamesh flooded the world, Yahweh dried it up, then Pyrhha and Deucalion gathered and tossed stones behind themselves. Pyrhha’s stones turned into woman and Deucalion’s stones turned into man. Afterwards, Prometheus taught them to use fire. One day Thanos got fed up about the misery and strife in the universe and started gathering the infinity stones. The rest is history.

MindHacker9009:
FALSE

The Jesus Christ preached today is a creation of the Roman Empire. To prove this even his own disciples could not recognize Him after His resurrection and he forgave the Roman soldiers that crucified Him but He could not forgive His own disciple Judas that helped Him to fulfill His mission to the Cross.

The statement makes zero sense.

LordReed:
Again when you can bring me evidence of this hell we can talk, till then it remains a figment of your imagination. Reality is more important to me than Jewish mythologies.

Rise up this morning. Smiled with the rising sun.
One little bird sits by my doorstep
Singing sweet songs of melody pure and true
Saying, this is my message to you ooh ooh.

He said, my name is Moses the raven
I am here to tell you about Sugar Candy Mountain
Accept my bread of life
Say goodbye to misery and strife
No hell.
Just Sugar Candy Mountain.
Where all the animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

I said, sounds the same as that Hebrew crew
God loves everyone but chose the Jew

Image123:
Can you imagine the misery of hell? If you knew, you would wish for the misery you talk of compared to hell fire. Sickness is inevitable on earth, it doesn't negate any Truth.

Treat this like a vacation brochure. Pick your hell.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

Hismasterpiece:
Do you believe that Christians go to heaven when they die? If yes, then why do find it so hard to believe that non-christians go to hell when they die?

All Christians go to hell. Pick one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

sonmvayina:
The whole idea of Jesus is all based on lies and fabrication..

But the whole idea of God isn’t? Is the god of the Hebrews not based on lies and fabrication?

sonmvayina:
Just learn God's laws and obey them. It includes not making the image or likeness of anything on earth, heaven and under the waters below the earth...it prohibits creating a god in the image of a man..desist from it. Don't be deceived.

Some ancient Hebrews told their people not to make image or likeness of anything and call it god. How is that “God’s law”? Are the Hebrew scribes “God”?
How does it apply to people who don’t venerate the Hebrews?