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Morizo:
■ The spineless and corrupt supreme court didn't nothing. Its the directive of the president and for once he followed the expectations of majority of Nigerians and not few APC stalwarts.
Hopefully he sends a bill to National assembly scrapping SIEC and giving INEC powers to conduct LG elections

Why are you folks so blind to the tricks these politicians use against you all time and time again? They play the same script over and over and you all fall so easily for it, why?

alphaNomega:
Mrs. Mojisolaoluwa Kehinde Alli-Macaulay has been approved to be appointed as the Executive Director (Operations) of the Nigeria Social Insurance Trust Fund (NSTIF). This is the woman who diverted COVID-19 palliatives for her birthday celebration when Nigerians were going through hard times. . Do not forget these people

Interesting!

And the Nigerian people will do what about this? Probably nothing, as they have done many times before. 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐

MrEverest:
■ It’s also going to worsen corruption, bigotry and violence. Politicians or moneybags will simply sponsor their candidates with promise of returns on investments, knowing they are going to be in control of funds without any checks and balances. It will also become a battle between governors, senators, ministers and presidents as to whose candidates will emerge victorious.
Just like changing the national anthem and other policies by Tinubu, I do not see how this will benefit Nigeria or Nigerians. They’ve only succeeded in diversifying looting down to the grassroots. Many people do not even know who the local government chairmen are in their domains. Talk more of knowing how they’re running their affairs.
The welfare of Nigerians is never the concern of Tinubu, all he wants is how to perpetuate himself & survive against his unpopularity. His intention is to control the 774 LGA chairmen & use EFCC to intimidate those that fail to fall in line.

If the Nigerian people are not ready to start thinking for themselves, there is nothing anyone can really do about it all.

MrEverest:
■ It has everything to do with politics. Firstly, the hasty way they went about it is because of Rivers State where Wike wants to remain in control. Secondly, the drug lord is looking for loopholes where he can have direct access to LGA’s and bypass governors that may not be in support of him.
Anytime these criminals implement any policy with unusual speed, just know it’s never for the benefit of the masses, but for their own benefit.

WIth FG now directly connected to all 774 LGs, things have only just gotten a lot messier for those who may be looking to untangle the web of corruption in the country.

WantsandMore:
The problem is joint account, not this. Think guys

Wrong! The joint account is not the problem and never has been. The problem has always been politicians/officials overstepping their bounds and doing that which they have no authority to do. They knew this— it is clearly indicated in the Constitution that they have no authority to take from the LG account, but they did it anyway. The Governors had no authority granted them by law to dip into the LG account to begin with. Governors were only tasked with maintaining the accounts— keeping them alive— and making deposits into the accounts regularly. The moment the governors took to dipping into the accounts, they violated the law.

Shutting down the joint account is not the way to stop the criminal Governors from stealing from it or the pockets of the State either. Instead, you catch the thieves, impeach them, and prosecute them, making an example of him so others who come after them would know the law is not silent on such criminality.

Danzakidakura:
most of the Governors are thieves we are battling them now local government chairmen will join the thiefing business

See Nigerians here pretending to be outraged by all of the thievery that has been going on yet we never hear or read of any calls for their impeachment, and prosecution.

Danzakidakura:
■ they should first provide mechanism to curb massive corruption because it's inevitable

The governors obviously violated the Law by dipping into the LG accounts before now. No one is saying anything about what to do about the governors.

millionaireman:
■ Zombies as you rightly explained.
One gov would destroy what his predecessors built in the Imo state capital, and builds his own; infrastructures like Markets, hospitals, drainage system, flyovers, tunnels, roundabouts, etc, in the Imo state capital; his successor would demolish them and build his own. Government establishments that existed outside the Imo state capital before the state was created, had been closed down.

I really don't understand the Nigerian people at all.

Abbeytoy:
See them conducting election in next few weeks

Even if the Governors conduct elections, it does not change the fact that most of them are guilty of embezzling funds they were not authorized to touch or access for themselves. The people can instead resolve this issue by calling for impeachment of all implicated Governors, and then ensuring they are all prosecuted and all funds traced and returned to the LGS.

I do not understand why the Nigerian people do not desire to see their government work for them at all.

Zouzer:
■ Perhaps you should demonstrate your own "knowledge" of constitutional law by acknowledging the fact that in every federal system government, the federal government remains the most powerful among the three tiers, notwithstanding the level of devolution of powers. And by the way, in this particular LG financial autonomy case, you haven't provided a cogent explanation as to how the SC is "handing over power" of LGs to the FG simply because the SC ruled that the FG should temporarily withold funds as means of enforcing the provisions. You are the one that talking about the possibility of governors' failure to observe the judgement. If the SC doesn't rule this way, perhaps you might be right. Please, find something else to say!

Read the fking constitution, will you? Before all of this, the power to decide how much any particular LG gets and when belonged in the hands of the National and State House of Assembly. Shifting that power instead to the FG(executive) means giving more power to the FG over the LGs. The moment the FG takes over from both houses, Subsections 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of Section 162 of the Constitution would be rendered obsolete. Is this really how any country should approach governance? Basically, use one set of illegallities to resolve another set of obvious illegalities?

fergie001:
■ Who appoints members into the SIECs that conducts the elections?

The Chair person is selected by your Governor, kind of like how your president selects the INEC Chair as well.

Zouzer:
■ I suppose you are among the bandwagon of people that are saying the SC has rewritten the provisions concerning the LG in the constitution. What the SC has simply done is give a liberal interpretation in which case, it has reinforced what the original drafters of the constitution have in mind. The FG's sole role at the moment is just to withold the funds of states with caretaker committe, pending the period when elections will be held to install a DEMOCRATICALLY formed LG. Of course, this is just to give effect to this judgement for now. Going forward, governors will be hands off LGs and their allocations will sale through without undue interferences. It's not like as if the FG will continue to withold funds whenever it feels like.

Please go read your Constitution abeg before you continue yammering! Sadly, most of you are simply parroting the same delusions that have been fed to you by your politicians who use you lot to further what are their illegalities. See how you are busy arrogantly broadcasting what is ignorance of your laws without even realizing what you are doing.

FG has no right by Law to withhold money from States, the same way States have no right to withhold funds from the LGs. Nigerians keep saying they want true federalism but here you are all asking for the alternative by handing power over states and LGs to the FG. I don't understand why you people switch off your brains. Those states implicated are guilty of illegally accessing LG funds. It is up to the people of Nigeria to punish those governors and the people can do so by calling for their impeachment and then prosecution. Trying to solve a problem of illegality using another illegal act is a sure way of promoting corruption and ineptitude.

Segxydube:
■ Your own constitution tell you say make governors dey collect local govt allocation?

Your governors have been violating the Constitution all the while. They have been illegally dipping into LG accounts, against the Constitution. How does it then make sense for the FG to use an equally illegal act to resolve this?

Anguldi:
This could have been the best 💯

It is the worst!

Zouzer:
■ I don't get why some are downplaying the enforcement of the SC judgement. It is the highest court of the land and it has decreed that this should be so. The judgement must be obeyed without demand. This idea that governors would not obey is just moot.

The so-called enforcement would be in violation of the Constitution and would only shift more power over the LGs into the hands of the FG. It is anti-True federalism.

lereinter:
■ Embezzlement in lg can only happen in cahoot with the state government First, lg chairperson don't have immunity
Second, lg chairperson can be removed by councillors and state assembly members if they embezzle

1. There is no truth to this claim because, since 1999, the Law has never required the LGs to report to the State Governors. So, where does this assumption of yours come from?

The same applies as far as governors who embezzle but how come this has never happened before now?

BERNIMOORE:
Tinubu will follow the Law, Rivers expecially is the reason that this Judgement was Hastened, with the closeness of CJ Ariwoola wike FCT Governor Wike

Wrong! The very idea of FG sending allocations directly to the LGs stands in violation of the Constitution.

piriton:
Lagos have 20 LGs in the constitution but 37 created by a governor. Which one are they sending to now.

Tinubu was that governor.

DMerciful:
Seriously? I bet you have no practical solution and you know it . I'm sure its one of the reasons why you're where you are

I believe instead that you have instead proven during this discussion that you have none to offer but rants.

Cjsarima:
Which ye ye constitution. Who Nigerian constitution dey favor apart from the political class. Our constitution is our major problem in this country sef

Wrong! The Constitution does not favor your political class at all. Why do you think they almost always come up with ideas to try to circumvent it any chance they get? If you spent time reading it you would know this. That document is almost a mirror of the United States Constitution, and like every constitution out there, it is not worked by magic but by the efforts of the people

millionaireman:
■ Are you from the Imo state capital? Since 2007, state governors from Okigwe and Orlu zones have been using the federal allocations to the local government areas to build state capital to international standards and to designer's delight.

The acts you describe are all unconstitutional— they have been since 1999— and the governors implicated ought to have been impeached and sued by their electorate, but Nigerians seem rather comfortable existing as zombies in their democracy, so nothing much anyone can do until the people choose to wake the fk up.

YUSTECH3:
I am not understanding this o . Pls. Who can enlighten me. Am working with state in one of the listed states. Will this autonomy benefit the state workers or lg workers and also can the state decide on a salary scale different from lg

State workers have never had a reason to concern themselves with LG Workers though. LG-related issues have pretty much been defined as separate from state-related issues.

Mrexcell:
■ The judgement only makes the presidency more powerful to influence the internal affairs of states there's no guarantee that the local chairmen will even use their allocations judiciously to impact the masses in the grassroot. It's just a case of approving the movement of money to another group of nigerian politicians nothing too special.

Nigerians do not see this because they don't think for themselves. Rather they are puppets used by their many politicians to forward their numerous causes, all against the Constitution.

DMerciful:
■ Can two walk if they don't agree?
■ The protest you're calling for will not be successful unless it leads to a revolution. Revolution comes at a terrible short term cost but overall long term gain. Are we ready for it?

The Constitution is proof of the agreement.

2. I didn't call for a protest. I simply said Nigerians should use their place in the country to their benefit. Seems to me that Nigerians are content with the system as is. No place for a revolution in such a situation.

OkoYibo:
■ You go cry taya

I don't cry at all because I have watched over the last 25 years how Nigerian people have supported the very system they claim is corrupt and foolishly run .

press9jatv:
Supreme Court of justice under justice Ariwoola did extremely well on the LG Autonomy case in the Supreme Court of justice

If the FG goes ahead with this farce, it means the FG has no respect for the Constitution at all.

DMerciful:
■ Reforms are enablers for good governance but ultimately the people are the ones to execute.
For instance, we said BVAS should be used and we know that if BVAS is used, it'll almost eliminate overvoting but BVAS cannot run itself, can it?
The people that is keeping Nigeria in the status quo are less than a thousand while the rest of Nigerians are too divided to defeat them. Nigeria is screwed!

So, all this time you have known all of this yet you took to wasting our time mentioning reforms, the design of Nigeria, etc. Why did you think spending all this time ranting about the wrong things would matter?

Michaeltreasure:
■ I understand your point of view now. But can I say humanity is on autopilot mode now?

Does it not appear exactly that way once you take off the delusion-goggles handed to you by religious scammers?

DMerciful:
Well, when I was shouting before elections for people to vote wisely they refused. Elections have consequences!

But you pretended all this while that reforms were the fix-all to the Nigerian problem. Now you finally admit that the people have always been part and parcel of the corruption and decay that is the system? Jeez!

Michaeltreasure:
■ OK, ma. Then whose will are under then?

But remember what the Will of God is, it is a Law under which one is bound. If His Will applies only to those who are of the blood of Jacob, what that means is those who are not descendants of that bloodline are not bound by His Will. It is that simple!

DMerciful:
Its because of the very slim chance of things changing that I left with my family. I've dual citizenship now so I can only rant from my place of refuge

LOL... I am glad we now have Kenyan children to show other Africans the way. Kenyans are now the role models for all Africans.

Michaeltreasure:
■ So, if I got what you're saying clearly, we that are not of the blood of Jacob, are not under the will of God? I don't understand, mam...

That is exactly what God of Israel, and Jesus Christ said. You are not under the Will of God at all. Jesus Christ went on to warn His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Will of God aka God's Law — to the dogs — non-Israelites. The Law of Moses was equally handed by God only to the descendants of Jacob in the land of Canaan. Jesus Christ was handed only to the Lost Sheep of Israel in a different land, the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world. In both cases, only the children of Israel — the House of Jacob — were made the offer.