₦airaland Forum

DMerciful:
Nigeria cannot work! It is not designed to work! Let's restructure to a confederation or outright separation. We cannot work as we are.

Una rants fill internet with nothing to show but more and more rants.

DMerciful:
■ Your first point shows you did not understand my previous comment. There was electoral reforms in 2022 that Buhari signed after refusing it four times.
■ Yet, did the reforms of 2022 translate to credible elections? Absolutely not because INEC did not follow the spirit of the ammendment and the Supreme Fraud ratified their non-compliance

1. So, he did sign it after all?

2. You said reforms are what the Nigerian people have been calling for. And here you now say that reforms that the people supposedly called for did not produce the magical results expected by the people. What do we then conclude from all of this? Is it that reforms do not solve anything at all?

Michaeltreasure:
■ Thanks for this. I'm still wondering why people attribute evil occurrences to being the will of God. The same people go about shouting God's will for me is that of good and not of evil.

First of all, Scripture makes it abundantly clear that the Will of God — the Law of Moses as well as the Gospel/Law of the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ—belong only to those who are of the House of Jacob i.e. descendants of the man named Jacob. Religious entities ignore this fact stated in Scripture to instead assert that God of Israel, against His very declaration, belongs to every other out there.

Yes, if you are not of the blood of Jacob — not an Israelite— you do not need to concern yourself much with the God of Israel who swore His only people are the children of Israel.

DMerciful:
■ Madam, was there no electoral reform in 2022 after Buhari refused to sign it for four times?
■ What did INEC eventually do? Ignored the BVAS and IREV. Did the Supreme Court not make a mockery of the reforms by saying INEC can choose whether to use the BVAS/IREV if they so wish?
■ Nigerians called for that electoral reform and were persistent before it was approved. I never said all Nigerians wanted it. We do not have that unity for good things. Blacks cannot govern themselves. I said it, its the absolute truth and its genetic!

1. Please stop lying! Buhari did sign an electoral reform into Law, but what he signed has nothing to do with any of what you mentioned. https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/513810-updated-finally-buhari-signs-amended-electoral-bill-into-law.html

2. You mean this very same BVAS/IREV or another one?
https://punchng.com/how-bvas-irev-failed-first-elections-stress-test/

3. So, you let the political class come up with and then make demands on your behalf— demands they probably benefit the most from—, and when these demands fail, you blame the government? Come on now!

DMerciful:
■ Don't act like you're new in Nigeria. The large majority of Nigerians are corrupt esp those benefitting from the status quo.
■ Its not as simple as you make it seems. The establishment is highly corrupt and unyielding....but something would eventually give

So why did you lie that Nigerians had in fact been calling for a reform of both INEC and SIEC?

2. It is not simple even though they have never in fact attempted to do it. So, the Zombie people who do nothing at all are not at fault, it is always the highly corrupt and unyielding system that is always to blame? 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 Abeg, make shame dey catch una small! 🥱🥱🥱🥱

spiSeyi:
This guy media gragra is too much , only those in the neighboring Ivory-Coast & Ghana can account for the miserable lives of Burkinabes . Is it not the same French who colonized Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia, Rwanda and some European countries can't stand this countries in terms of development. Blame game is the major reasons for the backwardness of Black African community. He is no different from the power hungry & selfish leaders who have improvirish Burkinafaso

Exactly!

DMerciful:
■ Nigerians are calling for it alright but the political class knows they're unpopular so avoiding the reforms that would end their political careers.
■ I have a feeling that 2027 would be different. Any attempt to rig that election like 2023 will result in a revolution. There is likely to be a revolution before then due to Tinubu's abysmal performance

Please don't lie! Where are these Nigerians calling for it? Where is the evidence that these requests have been received by their representatives and senators? Where? Let's stop with these lies for Pete's sake!
You say elections are rigged by Governors, yet to date, not a single record of a call for impeachment of any single governor by the state senators or reps. Why?


2. See... it is 3 years before 2027, but rather than demand change now, most are waiting for 2027 to see what will happen. Imagine that nonsense?

DMerciful:
■ Supreme Court should not ratify fraudulent elections. Both INEC and SIEC should be reformed so that results are transmitted in real time and voting is by biometrics. I don't have all the answers but whatever is required to make votes count 100% should be done. For cost management, INEC and SIEC can use same material like BVAS and IREV

So exactly what is stopping the Nigerian people from calling for these reforms today?

DMerciful:
∆ Not cancel the state electoral commission or INEC but reform both so that credible and transparent elections are guaranteed.

In all honesty, without credible elections, forget development even in a 1000yrs

LOL.... So, it is no longer to remove SIEC from State hands but to reform it. Ok, in what way can SIEC be reformed and why would you need the Supreme Court to make that happen?

Rhymezz:
give your reasons sir

All the Supreme Court can do and did was reassert the Constitution.

DMerciful:
∆ Seems we're talking of two different persons. We're talking of Prof Odinkalu's interview on Channels.
His point is if elections at the local govt are not credible and the outcome always favors the party of governors, then nothing will change.
Bottomline is Nigeria's problem is lack of credible elections(vote don't count) and as such the politicians are not accountable to the people

So should we also cancel INEC because people have also complained numerously of election rigging at the federal level?

004gist:
∆ Debt is debt.. Tinubu should clear all debt owed.
Meanwhile otti has started paying off backlog of debt he meet on ground. Judiciary has been cleared and so many. While that of teachers he promised them last month that immediately they wil be receiving the funds in trenches
The delay was caused by Biometric registration to flush out ghost workers off the system but now all now set to pay them

I no blame you at all. Nigerian political touts are pretty much all the same whether supporting Tinubu, Otti or any other Nigerian politician, all very insensitive and inhumane bunch of individuals.

babasolution:
∆ Facts are lived experiences,if my parents had good times in the military, is that not a fact?

So, the opinons of your parents, that limited unverifiable pool, is where you choose to draw your facts from?

004gist:
∆ When will Tinubu clear all debt owed by Buhari?
Word bank, China and EU countries...when will tinubu pay off this debt?
Government is a continuous process tinubu should better clear the debt at least he brought Buhari

Clearing of debts should take a backseat to paying off salaries owned workers. This governor has been drawing his salary from the state purses as compensation for work he has been doing since he took office, right? So why shouldn't the workers get paid for all their work till now as well?

Munamu:
∆ After reading the comments, I conclude that most do not know how the supreme court always arrive at its decisions. Being the supreme court, it can interpret the constitution the way its likes for the benefit of the general public. Looking at section 162 of the constitution of FRN(as amended),the allocations of local councils should go to the States' coffers. But this has been severally abused,and justice not done to local govts. The Court has the power to interprete the law according to justice and also to serve justice according to law. In this case, the supreme court has to move slightly away from the constitution because that section 162 has not really served justice to the local govts.

The Law has been abused? Explain what you mean by this please.

004gist:
∆ That is debt owed by past administration

And so? He has been in office long enough for him to have resolved that issue though. What is taking him so long? Don't tell me you don't know that Government should be continuum ?

Never4getU:
The man said the truth though. Obi can't be saying he wants a greater Nigeria but whenever the govt make a good move he's always quiet but very critical on issues that portrays the same govt in a bad light, isn't that hypocrite?

The government made no great move in this.

GanagiBitrus:
Ok noted.
There is a NL thread on top GDP Countries. Have you ever wondered why no black nation is ranked high on such list despite being blessed with huge natural resources?

I don't wonder about such things because looking at the way things are run in Nigeria for example, it is clear to see why.

babasolution:
∆ Same folks tell me TINUBU was bad, and I was very aware of that as an adult by then.so they likely know what they are talking about

I see... So you rarely base your opinions on reported facts but rather what you are told by others, including your parents. You are definitely a typical Nigerian as well.

babasolution:
∆ My folks always tell me they enjoyed the military era,however I grew to teenage age during the era

Your folks are examples of typical Nigerians. I mean we have folks who equally say that Tinubu was a good governor during his 8 years in Lagos even when the records and present evidence reveal the opposite

GanagiBitrus:
Use Nigeria as reference. Leave Kenya.
You can't do what Kenyans did or are doing.

How can I use Nigeria, a place where the people would rather exists as zombies, refusing to educate themselves of their own rights and responsibilities under their own democratic system, and refusing to make clear demands of those whom they have elected, as reference for Pete's sake? How?

Democracy is a governmental system by the people for the people. Nigerians do not see themselves as the power and authority in their system. They literally abandoned their rights and allowed the dogs they hired to work the system to run free. How can that be a reference for democracy or sanity?

GanagiBitrus:
∆ Well, I used GOOD DICTATOR to represent other System of Govt aside Democracy.
But I still main that blackman is too crude for Oyibo kind of Democracy. It can be adapted to suit us.
China is not practising Democracy but they are progressing. That's my opinion. You are entitled to yours. 👋

So, in your mind, the Kenyans using that very same Democracy to change their destiny as speak, are not black, right? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Blackman, save yourself from zombie ignorance!

GanagiBitrus:
I said GOOD DICTATOR.
Read again before you jump on my mention like a goddamn junkie.

There is no such thing as a Good dictator!

babasolution:
∆ Leadership is important, only a young,strong,able leader will deliver NIGERIA

LOL... So long as these Messiahs you keep pining for are of Nigerian blood, they will continue to ruin your lives as the ones there today and past have been done.

babasolution:
∆ Not everyone will agree that the military era was worse than now

Liar! You were probably not born or of age back then. that is what I instead suspect.

Another unhinged individual! Go asylum where you go find him mate. The man needs treatment for what may be a form of OCD and not attention from irgher equally unhinged individuals.

babasolution:
Only a young,strong,brave and able leader can liberate Nigeria, not weak old men

Stop yapping nonsense! Only the Nigerian people can save their own selves like the Kenyans are doing today. So long as the Messiahs you lot keep pining for have Nigerians blood on them, you will continue to ruin your own selves.

GanagiBitrus:
Democracy is too refined & sophisticated for Black Africans.

A GOOD DICTATOR is still preferred. 👍

You people are sick! You quickly forget how useless your lives were under dictators not more than 25 years ago? Why would you wish that experience on your children?

Michaeltreasure:
I usually hear of statements like, "What happened is God's Will, whenever a disaster happens. I don't understand. Is the will of God evil? The Bible says God loves us and has good thoughts towards us, if that's the case, why are bad things attributed to his will?
Below is a sceenshot of a persons comment on the Jos school building collapse...

In Scripture, the Will of God simply refers to God's Law in the particular dispensation. For instance, in the Old Testament, the Will of God is the Law of Moses whereas in the New Testament, the Will of God is Jesus Christ - the Gospel and Law of God in the Kingdom of God.

The ignorant application of the term by those who are of the religions of men, Christianity being one of them, have no link to that found and described in Scripture.

Zooposki:
∆ State Joint Local Government Account just probably means all the sum of money of all the LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS in that particular state and not necessarily the state and LGA monies/accounts joined together.

That is exactly what it is. And the power to decide who gets what and how belongs to the National and State assembly, not the Governors. Clearly, whatever power s the Governors have been exercising over those accounts does not come from the Constitution meaning they, the Governors, overstepped their bounds in this and ought to be penalized and maybe even prosecuted.

DMerciful:
He is not wrong, he is spot on.
Did you watch the interview?

There is nothing"spot on' about any of what he said as he was merely repeating the same narrow-minded solution that had been fed him by politicians over the years.

Let me put it to you this way. It is utter foolishness to delete/repeal the law in an attempt to resolve an illegallity. What the Governors did was illegal. That is the stance of the Law. Calling for a change in the same laws as a solution is stewpidity.

@* The Constitution does not bestow the right to dip into LG accounts to Governors. This means that a Governor who does so does so against the Law and as such should be penalized for it.
@* The Constitution does not grant Governors right to decide as far as LG elections. This means that all Governors who meddle with elections at the Local or National levels do so against the Constitution. ...

... I can go on but the point is the lack of respect for the Constitution by the people on both sides of this is at the root of this and so many other issues in Nigeria.

RichBoy247:
∆ Person wey we don catch with meat from the pot of soup. Wetin he wan talk?

Please waka pass me!