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IntelChief:
Then let her at least take the guys approaching her serious. What is hard in that?

People like you need to be publicly flogged for this level of idiocy in what is the 21st century.....

IntelChief:
1. My elder sister is around 32 years and still not serious with marriage. Her only focus is on making money and she had been very successful in that aspect. She has a well paying job and is not only comfortable but also supports me financially sometimes. But I just can't imagine why she is not disturbed about the fact that she is still single at her age. A lot of guys I know had been approaching her but she never accepts even a relationship offer from them, talk more of marriage. (And am very sure that she is not a lesbian or any of that).

2. As a church guy, I have seen a lot of women stock in this not being married thing and jumping from one church to the other seeking for husbands. Some of them, out of desperation, fall victims in the hands of fake pastors and sharp guys. I really don't want my sister to go through such.

3. Initially, I wasn't disturbed, but right now, this issue is burning not only me but also my aging mother. My mother had even stylishly urged my sister to go get married on several occasions. But she won't. What really got me mad was when I was discussing with my sister some days back about her future plans. She told me stuffs like planning on travelling abroad for greener pastures, bla bla bla, but made no mention of marriage.

4. Honestly guys, I am tired. And as a man in the family, I am thinking of changing it for my sister. Am planning on threatening her that if she doesn't take the issue of marriage serious, I will go physical with her and teach her some lessons. But the issue is that she is my elder sister and I have some respect for her. And my action might end up affecting the bond in the family.

1. Clearly, your sister is not as small-minded as you seem to be as an individual.

2. So because of that, you expect the same will happen to your sister even though she does not seem to be concerned about such things even now?

3. So, because she didn't mention marriage and to you, marriage is an ultimate achievement, you would rather have a situation where your sister is dragged into living in the same tiny world you obviously exist in?

4. I put it to you that there is absolutely nothing wrong with your sister as she seems to have a clear idea of what she wants for herself and her life. You, on the other hand, don't even seem to know your left from your right and that seems why you think it is your place to push your views on your sister, going as far as to claim you are the man in the family and all that rubbish talk.

Leave the woman alone and focus on getting your life correct abeg!

ochibuogwu5:
please do not be tired of *asking for the HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT*
thus "HOLY SPIRIT, help me to pray in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to forgive that person that hurt me in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to be forgiven by that person that I have offended which I have confessed to You now even as I move to ask him/her for forgiveness directly in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, please help me to say the truth concerning this incident no matter its human interpretation currently or in the future in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to allow Jesus Christ Crucified to live/manifest through my whole being (spirit, soul, body and circumstances) today (15-10-2022) in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, please help me to be consoled by Your presence in this my waiting time for Your appointed manifestation of Your revealed word in my life in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to trust You afresh this second and every fresh second of my earthly existence that You are working out something in my life right now and when that thing manifests, it will surprise me because it will far-outweigh what my own human efforts or the intelligence of all the being (human or spirits) in the seen and unseen realm can achieve for me in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to study Your word written in the holy bible and let every alphabet, stroke, dots, word and sentences mix with fresh faith in my heart in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to hear Your voice speaking through my heart and from the letters of the holy bible simply, clearly and obey them completely and immediately in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, help me to hear your voice speaking to me through my fellow human being, circumstances and other visible/invisible things then be able to discern them appropriately and obey them immediately in Jesus name. Amen."
"HOLY SPIRIT, please help me to be consoled by Your presence in this my moment of human earthly loss of a family member or friend beyond what human sympathy and condolences can offer since you alone knows the depth of my emotional attachment to this person while he/she lived on this earth in Jesus name. Amen."
....

Where in the entirety of what are the Gospels did Jesus Christ in fact state that His followers are to ask anything of the Holy Spirit?

Did Jesus Christ say to ask His Spirit for anything?

Crossroad1:
As long as the money keep flowing in and they keep enjoying the affluent life and life of glamor they are used to, no matter the abuse, they will keep staying...
The fear of what people will say if they can't keep up with the type of life they're known with...
10-20% will stay cos of good dick and good penising as have seen different examples of this around me..
I know a family who are so poor, the wife is suffering and the woman no gree commot cos of dick... The day I see the man dick from trouser, fear catch me... Royalroy

Insecurity, low self-confidence, and low self-esteem are the major reasons why a woman or man would choose to stay in an abusive relationship. All other suggested ideas simply do not cut down to the root of the problem.

englishmart:
Life may be spiritual but it's experienced physically. The spirit realm however has always been explained to suit individual analogies. Life in the spirit isn't uniformal.

I hate these meaningless soundbites you folks confuse with Christianity!

Debater:
No specific names or dates are associated with the church's shift from observing the holy day on Saturday to observing it on Sunday. At first, especially when many Christians were converted Jews, their holy day was Saturday. However, because the Resurrection and the beginning of Creation had both occurred on the first day of the week (Sunday), the church soon observed that day instead. (More Gentiles were becoming Christians as well, which contributed to a desire to shake off Jewish customs.) By the end of the first century, Sunday worship was the norm. We can assume the change caused some friction, for in Colossians 2:16 Paul admonishes, "Therefore do no let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."

It's important to note that the Sabbath was not simply moved; Christians altered the observance as well as the day. Hallmarks of the early Christian "Lord's day" celebration, according to Justin Martyr (ca. 100-ca. 165), included readings from Scripture (particularly the Gospels), a sermon, communal prayer, and Communion—very different from Jewish Sabbath observance. By Jewish standards, Christians don't keep the Sabbath at all.

All this is meaningless jabber related to the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 -13

Jesus Christ, the Christ in the Word Christianity did not mandate a day of worship for His followers much like it is specified in YHWH - God's Old Covenant Law of Moses. Instead, Jesus Christ taught His followers that He is the Lord of the Sabbath meaning every day is a Holy day for all of His servants to do the good works He has commanded of them. Every follower of Jesus Christ is under a mandate to live Holy - continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - until the end.

englishmart:
1. The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

2. For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

1. Jesus Christ lived a righteous life according to the Standard that is the Old Law of Moses, and died a cursed death, in order to pay off the ransom owed by those among His people who would choose through Him to live under God's New Law and Covenant in the Kingdom of God. By dying as He did, not only did He earn Righteousness which He was able to pay their ransom with, but He also overcame the power of the curse on those who were cursed among them, and by His resurrection, overcame the power of Death as well.

2. Your example of yours falls tremendously short in this case.

OkCornel:
1. John 3 v 3 mentions no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again. Where did Jesus list that second point you mentioned (eat his body and drink his blood) in his discussion with Nicodemus in John 3 as a criterium to see the Kingdom of God?

2. And just to add, are you telling us the Old testament saints would not see the Kingdom of God too?

3. a. You obviously or deliberately missed the point. You have to be born of the spirit right? Why was David asking God not to take away his Holy Spirit from him? Or was David no longer filled with the spirit of God? David's heart was not cleaned up? A man after God's heart would have his prayers unanswered?

4. Will these righteous men see the kingdom of God? Yes or No. If yes, were these men "born again"? If no, how would they see the kingdom of God if they were not "born again"?

1. Read up on what the very same Jesus Christ went on to teach no on the subject of eternal life, which is promised to those who are born-again.

53 Jesus said, “Believe me when I say that you must eat the body of the Son of Man, and you must drink his blood. If you don’t do this, you have no real life.
54 Those who eat my body and drink my blood have eternal life. I will raise them up on the last day.
55 My body is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56 Those who eat my body and drink my blood live in me, and I live in them.
57 “The Father sent me. He lives, and I live because of him. So everyone who eats me will live because of me.
58 I am not like the bread that your ancestors ate. They ate that bread, but they still died. I am the bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.” - John 6 vs 53 - 58

2. God's promise to them in His Old Covenant never included access to the Kingdom of God so how could they have had access to that which was never made available to them in the Old Covenant?

3. In God's Old Covenant, God "anointed" individuals whom He chose with the Spirit of God.

16 The Lord said to Moses, “Bring to me 70 of the elders of Israel. These men are the leaders among the people. Bring them to the Meeting Tent. Let them stand there with you.
17 Then I will come down and speak with you there. The Spirit is on you now. But I will also give some of that Spirit to them. Then they will help you take care of the people. In this way you will not have to be responsible for these people alone.
18 “Tell the people this: Make yourselves ready for tomorrow. Tomorrow you will eat meat. The Lord heard you when you cried out and said, ‘We need meat to eat! It was better for us in Egypt!’ So now the Lord will give you meat. And you will eat it.
19 You will eat it for more than one, or two, or five, or ten, or even twenty days!
20 You will eat that meat for a whole month until you are sick of it. This will happen to you because you complained against the Lord. He lives among you and knows what you need, but you cried and complained to him! You said, ‘Why did we ever leave Egypt?’”
21 Moses said, “There are 600,000 soldiers here, and you say, ‘I will give them enough meat to eat for a whole month!’
22 If we were to kill all the sheep and cattle, that would still not be enough to feed this many people for a month. And if we caught all the fish in the sea, it would not be enough for them!”
23 But the Lord said to Moses, “Don’t limit my power! You will see that I can do what I say I can do.”
24 So Moses went out to speak with the people. He told them what the Lord said. Then he gathered 70 of the elders together and told them to stand around the Tent.
25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to Moses. He put on the 70 elders some of the same Spirit that was on Moses. After the Spirit came down on them, they began to prophesy.[c] But that was the only time they ever did this. - Numbers 11 vs 17 - 25

The nature of these anointings was not permanent as a man could have the Spirit of God, one day....

9 Just as Saul turned to leave Samuel, God turned Saul’s life around. All these things happened that day.
10 When Saul and his servant came to Gibeath Elohim, Saul met a group of prophets. God’s Spirit came on Saul with great power, and Saul prophesied with the prophets.
11 Some of the people who had known Saul before saw him prophesying with the prophets. So they asked each other, “What has happened to Kish’s son? Is Saul also one of the prophets?” - 1 Samuel 10 vs 9 - 11

... and then a wicked spirit the next.

14 The Lord’s Spirit left Saul. Then the Lord sent an evil spirit to Saul that caused him much trouble.
15 Saul’s servants said to him, “An evil spirit from God is bothering you.
16 Give us the command and we will look for someone who can play the harp. If the evil spirit from God comes on you, this person will play music for you. Then you will feel better.”
17 So Saul said to his servants, “Find someone who plays music well and bring him to me.”
18 One of the servants said, “There is a man named Jesse living in Bethlehem. I saw Jesse’s son. He knows how to play the harp. He is also a brave man and fights well. He is smart and handsome, and the Lord is with him.”
19 So Saul sent messengers to Jesse. They told Jesse, “You have a son named David. He takes care of your sheep. Send him to me.”
20 So Jesse got some things as a gift for Saul. Jesse got a donkey, some bread and a leather bag full of wine, and a young goat. He gave them to David and sent him to Saul.
21 So David went to Saul and stood in front of him. Saul loved David very much. David became the helper who carried Saul’s weapons.
22 Saul sent a message to Jesse. “Let David stay and serve me. I like him very much.”
23 Any time the evil spirit from God came on Saul, David would take his harp and play it. The evil spirit would leave Saul and he would begin to feel better. - 1 Samuel 16 vs 14 - 23

... and there was no eternal life installed to any of those of the Old Covenant while they lived. Eternal life was only guaranteed if they succeeded in dying as righteous men.

The Old Covenant's temporary anointings do not in any way fit with that described by God Himself where His New Covenant is concerned in Ezekiel 36 vs 25 - 27 - and in no way compares in detail to that explained by Jesus Christ in His teachings.

Think about it. If a man can be righteous one day and unrighteous the next - Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 32 - as is the case with Old Covenant living, wouldn't it mean he would have to be born of spirit one day, and the next un-born-of-spirit and so on and so forth?

4. Again, according to Jesus Christ, only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God, and it is only through Him - the New Covenant - that anyone can see God. So, without being born-again and without being a part of the New Covenant, no man can see God.

OkCornel:
1. A fallacy in your position is assuming “born again” is just a New Testament thing.

2. So what do you make of the author’s prayer in Psalms 51 v 10-13?

3. By the way, Job was not an Israelite…yet he was deemed upright by God so…

1. I am afraid the fallacy here is born from your lack of understanding of what it means to be born-again. You see, according to Jesus Christ, to be born-again means to enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 -, and according to HIs teachings, the following are the minimum of necessary steps to gain access to the Kingdom of God.

@ You must believe in Jesus Christ
@ You must eat His body and drink His blood in order to obtain Eternal life
@ Baptized in water to show that one is changing from following the OLD WAY to following the NEW WAY
@ You must be born of spirit*. Note that even all those who enter the Kingdom of God through the Broad gate that leads to destruction(Hell) are also born of spirit.

2. What David spoke of is not of being born-again. Instead, it reads of the Old Covenant anointing which he likely first experienced when he was anointed king by the prophet of God in the same Old Covenant. That is nothing like being born-again.

3. Abraham, Abel, Noah, Enoch, Shem..... were also recorded as righteous men by God, and none of them were Israelites. Is there a particular question associated with this or something?

* Not to be confused with the Spirit of God since Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in His teachings that only those who know the truth and are set free by the Truth - those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - will be baptized by the Spirit of Truth aka Spirit of God - John 14 vs 15 - 17 & John 14 vs 25 - 27.

OkCornel:
1. So Simeon would not see God? Simeon is not pure in heart nor born again?
Is that your argument?

1. Simeon was an Old Covenant Law of Moses righteous man, and the promise of that Covenant only guarantees the righteous Life forever in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

What this means is that for Simeon to see God - a promise made by Jesus Christ to those who are of the Kingdom of God - , he, Simeon, would have needed to adopt God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, and then lived a life of Righteousness based on the New Covenant Standard, in addition to the Old Covenant Righteousness which he already had.

Hismasterpiece:
1) 1 Timothy 2:1-2 NASB95 — First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.

2. The Word of God is the final authority.

1. So, did any of Paul, Timothy, or the other Christians during their time lead this tranquil and quiet life that they supposedly for? I mean Jesus Christ made it awfully clear that there will be none of that for those of that generation. So by suggesting that Timothy pray a prayer contrary to that which was revealed by Jesus Christ, was Paul by way of prayer able to stop that which was prophecied even through the prophets as far back as Daniel?

From what we read of history, there was no such tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity for not even Paul, the one who suggested the prayer, and certainly not for the other Christians of that time. So, to what end was that suggestion of his?

2. The Word of God is Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ never said His followers have to pray for nations, kings, politicians, and the lot.

naijamanyoutube:
I arrived Lima, Peru on the 9th of October and I have started to explore the city and see what it has to offer.I heard a lot about the Peruvian food and how it's the best in the world. Well it's time to find out for myself.I hung out with my new Peruvian friend, to check out the city center and have a meal.
Once I saw the picture of the Fish and Crab soup I had, I knew I had to try it. The other plate is what my friend had. After eating we checked out some places. They have a lot of big Catholic Churches, and we checked out one of them. The food was very delicious. The food, including the drinks came out to almost $30 dollars.

What are the name of the soup and other things you ordered?

OkCornel:
1. Is the question whether they were judged righteous because they were pure in heart? OR...you are disputing what Jesus said "Blessed are the pure in heart, FOR THEY WILL SEE GOD"

2. My argument/position obviously has nothing to do with the first question. You were the one who brought up the argument that the beatitudes only apply to those who are born again...hence my asking, were Job, Ruth and Rahab born again?

3. Was Simeon in Luke 2 v 25-32 also born again? Well...John 3 v 3 holds the answer which connects all the dots; Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again".

Those who are pure in heart are obviously born again as well...be they Old testament or new testament. Since according to the words of Jesus "the pure in heart will see God"

1. I don't dispute what Jesus Christ said. Instead, your twist on what Jesus Christ clearly said is what I dispute.

Right before Jesus Christ began His Work, He is said to have established the context of His teachings beginning in Matthew 4.

12 Jesus heard that John was put in prison, so he went back to Galilee.
13 But he did not stay in Nazareth. He went to live in Capernaum, a town near Lake Galilee in the area near Zebulun and Naphtali.
14 He did this to give full meaning to what the prophet Isaiah said:
15 “Listen, land of Zebulun and land of Naphtali,lands by the road that goes to the sea, the area past the Jordan River— Galilee, where those from other nations live.
16 The people who live in spiritual darkness have seen a great light. The light has shined for those who live in the land that is as dark as a grave.”
17 From that time Jesus began to tell people his message: “Change your hearts and lives, because God’s kingdom is now very near.[c]” - Matthew 4 vs 12 - 17

He didn't approach the people, in any wise, as just any teacher. Instead, He approached them from the very beginning as one who was promised by God through His Prophets, the agreement of peace that they had all been waiting for.

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. The only way to the Father is through me.
7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father too. But now you know the Father. You have seen him.” - John 14 vs 6 - 7

The same Jesus Christ is also written to have made clear that without a relationship with Him, no one can see God. So, clearly, what He said in Matthew 5 vs 8 applies only to those who are of Jesus Christ .i.e. of the Kingdom of God.

2. Clearly, according to Jesus Christ Himself, one must have a relationship with Him in order to access God via the Kingdom of God. So, I still don't know why the mention of Job, Rahab, and Ruth. Are they recorded to have seen God outside of Jesus Christ or what?

3. Your questions are confusing. Did Simeon see God? How did you establish this claim of yours that Simeon was pure of heart and so hence born-again?

According to the same Jesus Christ, to be born-again, one has to be born of water and born of Spirit...

1. There was a man named Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees. He was an important Jewish leader.
2 One night he came to Jesus and said, “Teacher, we know that you are a teacher sent from God. No one can do these miraculous signs that you do unless they have God’s help.”
3 Jesus answered, “I assure you, everyone must be born again. Anyone who is not born again cannot be in God’s kingdom.”
4 Nicodemus said, “How can a man who is already old be born again? Can he go back into his mother’s womb and be born a second time?”
5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.
6 The only life people get from their human parents is physical. But the new life that the Spirit gives a person is spiritual.
7 Don’t be surprised that I told you, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows wherever it wants to. You hear it, but you don’t know where it is coming from or where it is going. It is the same with everyone who is born from the Spirit.” - John 3 vs 1 - 8

... so how could Simeon have circumvented Jesus Christ's own decree as regards how to become born-again?

Dainy1:
What is your take on this?
...
For married men, would you let her? What would you advise?

Would a husband allow his wife and partner to contribute to what is their own home?

Or would a husband who sees himself as a Lord and ego first over his wife(servant/slave) allow her to contribute to what is his home alone?

kkins25:
My Bible?? are u atheist now? Or are trying to score points as well? lol.. My "beliefs" exist as the opposition to yours. in other words, if "thou art religious, i am thy nemesis"

I have never said your Bible is the Word of God. Never once!

As for you being my nemesis,you are nothing close. You instead assume that in your confusion about your own beliefs are mine.

It is not my job or place to provide you or anyone with proof which you seem so desperate for. No human provided me with such during my own search for God so for you to think I owe you that means you are definitely operating under some sort of delusion of your own making. Ascribing silly claims to my person will not change this.

MindHacker9009:
This news has made me to remember some time back when a friend told me a pastor laid hands on his friend and his friend started seeing stars, is there a connection here

See Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 33 for what God said regarding them.

JJfrank22:
That same bible says can two walk together except they agree Amos 3:3

Light and darkness has no relationship to add friendship with the world is enemity with God.
Shey I don dey quote bible ni

Marriage is all the agreement that is necessary for two to walk together in this. There are no other agreements necessary that is why two people from different backgrounds, different educational levels can enter into marriage.

Brunosamel:
I have done that already

So what is the point of this thread then?

Lifestone:
You in this world now, therefore you should marry. The point is that two can not work together except they agree, go find your soul mate elsewhere

Has marriage been ab absolute from the beginning for everyone? No, so why pretend it to be no more than the choice that it is?

Two cannot work together except they agree and since marriage is an agreement between two individuals, that is all the agreement that is necessary for that to happen. No two married individuals cqn agree on everything. Instead all that matters is that they agree on being married and that is that.

Brunosamel:
I careless if she is a Christian or I do not have anything against her beliefs and I respect it what's difficult about her respecting mine.

Well, why not continue by respecting her choice then?,

Chris2863:
Make she continue dating you so that one day the evil spirit in you go just wake up show her shege

What evil spirit do you mean?

JJfrank22:
Abeg, let him find someone like himself b4 he puts a girls life into a mess

Puts what girls life in what mess ?

Jesus Christ never said a Christian cannot date or marry an athiest after all He made it clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 . So, there is no reason to somehow believe she will fare better with another Christian.

Lollittaa:
During sex, men give, women receive. More like plug and socket. A man can ejaculate and orgasm within minutes, it's not so for many women who hardly orgasm via penetration. Patriarchy is responsible for men paying for sex. Sex should be free, because it is mutual. Or else, women should do the paying. Patriarchy seems to favour men from a distance. But truly, it favours no one.
Women need pre-intimacy before the main action before they can enjoy any satisfaction. Men don't. Men should be paid for going the extra mile to provide sexual satisfaction to women.

This one missed the economics 101 lecture on demand and supply. The one who needs the service is the one who pays for the supply. It does not matter that men have to do what you perceive as more work in order to get the service to suit their taste.

Brunosamel:
She have been trying so hard to convince me to accept him and I refused, I told her only Divine intervention will change my mind. Being an atheist has been fulfilling to me and I want to remain like that

After all set and done she told me I shouldn't call her again she is breaking up with me I said cool. Life goes on I can change my life for something I don't believe in. This one of the reasons I don't like opening up to the fact I'm an atheist due to the fact people will always try to convince me.

So what if she broke up with you for that reason, so what? Move on and find yourself someone else who won't break up with you because of that. Simple!

Epositive:
Polyandry is common in the West. There are a lot of polyandrists there that some even include it in their bio on social media.
Welcome to the world.

These ideas are repressed in other societies is why you don't read much of it elsewhere.

In Nigerian society, for instance, women are still fed lies that only men are polygamous when in fact women are also able to, even the married ones, venture out to seek other love interests, and if allowed, make a home with the same, just as the men can.

Jeon:
Women are polygamous in nature.

Know this and know peace.

BABANGBALI:
According to her, they live in one house and even sleep in one bed. whenever one wants to sleep with her one has to get out of bed to give them space. They decided that if anyone gets tired of living such kind of life is free to leave and start a new life..

Different strokes for different folks !

Steep:
Where did I say Jesus was God the father?

Where exactly did I say that you said that?

Jesus Christ is not an angel, but He is God and also Son of God.

Steep:
What did John 1vv1 say?

Translation, John 1 vs 1 is saying Jesus Christ is a God but Jesus Christ is not God, the Father, as He, Jesus Christ, is less than God the Father.

Jokerman:
Fallen Angels. Read the book of Enoch. These fallen angels are also principalities in high places and under the earth. Many of them now parade themselves as gods e.g Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Ra, Medussa, Hermes, Isis, Osiris, Amadioha, Queen of Heaven (Disguising as Mary) etc.

Interesting! So you believe the book of Enoch is God's Truth?

Steep:
how was he able to brake chains?

What were the chains made of? Rope, Steel, Iron? What? How strong were the links in the chain?

Steep:
You are deluded. Book of Enoch that was written as far back as 2 BCE .

ROFLMAO!


So, was the [url=https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/items/TheCompleteBookOfEnochStandardEnglishVersionJayWinter/The%20Complete%20Book%20of%20Enoch%2C%20Standard%20English%20Version%20-%20Jay%20Winter.pdf]Book of Enoch[/url] also written by Enoch at that point in time?