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at leasthe are atleast 5-7 Black Billionaires and they did not steal money to make money.Maybe about 100,000 Plus Black Millionaires. Income of 2-5Million Dollars or more.There are at least 2-3 African Billionaires that i know of I Ethiopian, I Nigerian, and a dude from Liberia.Omon look and ye shall find. Dude Millionaires are everywhere in Yankee. The is something called the Housing boom and there was the internet and IT revolution created a lot of Millionaires. If it were not for 9/11 you would have more like 6 Million Millionaires in this country.But dude more importantly today Unemployment is below 5%. Best in the developed/Industrial world.

Ijebuman you are a complete hater, 4 someone that has travelled so much and is as exposed like u claim you are, i see why Nigeria is the way it is. We always see things from a myopic point of view.

Joftech

U have jumped off the fringe.Even if i worked in a factory is beside the point, but let us start from that premise, the fact is that until you understand that a job is a job is a job, you can never progress in that death trap country. Listen my Broda you cannot sit down in the High hills of Ogun State and lecture me about my reality. I do not work in a factory and sometimes i wish i did. U know that some factory worker make as much as $75 and as little as $9 per Hr. Now that Factory i guarantee you is doing far better than you. His job has health benefits, Retirements plans,paid vacation,Health care for his Kids,Injury Insurance better known as worker's comp, opportunity to grow in the company or factory. And he most likely will belong to a union that guarantees him not getting fired without a good reason.

U have the nerve to sit in Nigeria and look down on a Factory worker in Yankee. Please my broda you ignorance is coming to a full moon. I am not sure if you understand that Arnold Schwarzenegger an Immigrant from Austria with a dream and i think $20 came and is now the Governor of the fifth Largest Economy in the world.
Dude you have first generation Mexicans controlling Fortune 500 and 100 companies and their parents cannot still speak English. Parents picked grapes to put their kids thru school and today they have kids with seven to eight figure salaries.

Come on bro you can never use hearsay and internet links to tell me about a place i have lived in for so long. Just like i cannot educate you about Ondo or Ogun Politics for instance. Listen i am going to tell you for the last time there is nothing like a second class citizen. The same law that put the Multi Millionaire Dennis Kowzlasky CEO of Tyco currently in Jail for 50yrs +, applies to the guy picking Oranges in Tallahassee FL. You have to get that part of your imagination clear. Everyone loves to hate Yankee, but the truth is that it took me a while to come to my conclusions. U are not going to compare Naija to even Maine. The GDP 49 out of 50 states in the Union trounce that of Naija.

Kokscity threw a one to Punch.
Sage please help me tell this people that truth is hard to hear, but it is usually backed up by facts.

Fact all the Governors in Nigeria are Corrupt
Fact all the minister are Corrupt except the lady in Finance maybe
Fact our President is a thief
Fact our Vice President is a Thief
Fact there is 60% Unemployment in Nigeria
Fact Factory workers in Naija can be compared to sweat shop workers in China
Fact we are no longer the Giant of Africa only the Paper Tiger of West Africa
Fact 98% of Nigerian Men ages 18-30 will rather leave than stay and suffer if given the chance.
Fact our Military is corrupt
Fact our Customs is as corrupt as the Mob in the 1980's
Fact our Police share thier rifles with armed robbers.
Fact Most of Nigeria does not have good roads, no light and many times no water.
Fact MTN, VMOBILE AND GLO all make you dial over and over to get thru on their network.
Fact there is no railway service in Naija
Fact Nigerian Local Airlines are like playing Russian Roulette ask Gani
Fact most of the country survives from Hand to Mouth without any assurance of tomorrow.
Fact if you go a Public or Private Nigerian Hospital you are asked to pay even if you are dying

Conclusion or Thesis: Nigeria is a dying Country

Nice to Have

Na true story my broda i have her Last name too. and i confronted her in a reunion recently. But of course i do not hold any Grudge.

Kokscity Always Loves them female Rapist!
Volunteering for the Red Cross
And would be a guinea pig for a female serial rapist too.

First Hand Account Here:

I was raped in F.G.C ****** 199* By this Girl called Grace. It was our last term in school and i had taken SSCE and she was 2yrs my senior age wise. She had me visit her home since she was a day student and restrained me and raped my ass. But i must say i enjoyed every piece of it. I was not even sure at the time that i could cum. But Pain and Pleasure can be exciting.

Kokscity will host any female rapist.
Appointments not necessary

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Dude

Stop making noise and go to bed. Those people in New Orleans were short changed by a bureaucrat named Mike Brown which was Fired. But i hope you know that Fema now has only 300people in shelter and offers them $250k for new homes and what not. It was a natural disaster for Christ sake. I am surprised at your ignorance. Yankee is not like Naija stop deceiving yourself. There is Good and Bad everywhere but i am not sure if you know the power a CAT 5 Hurricane has, it just happened to hit the N.O which has a majority black population. Listen people in Alabama and Mississippi were also short changed. Dude you are now equating a phrase from a Rapper and his own personal opinion to form an idea of how America is. Please ask Kanye west how much he is worth and if he has a college degree. Them ask him which country gave him the mantel to say those words against the president on National TV.

Dude i am giving up on you. I am not sure if your family that are American are in contact with you, U are drowning in info of the internet and second hand versions of things. Are u sure u are not a woman? Making a lot of sentimental arguments there for a man. Well if you are a man, i think you should lift up your skirt, grab your balls and start making some sense or at least better arguments.

North America 4 Life

For the most Part Yankee is Great..........

Joftech

Trust me u are not a First class Citizen Either..........

A Humbles Man Opinion

Joftech

Another Lousy method of raising a white flag. Dude i now know that u are a complete Loser. There is nothing like a second class citizen. Have u ever heard of something called " The Bill of Rights"? O'boy u don dey yarn Opata for here. Everyone Citizen or Not have basic rights that cannot be trampled. And in fact many of those so called second class citizens have better rights than you. Cheap shots would not take you far. Make better arguments and stop saying crap that you do not know. It is 2005 and you said that whites have more rights than Blacks on a public Forum like this. Well common sense is not common my broda. I do not blame you. U can sit in Ondo State and yarn all this Opata. No una way when una no fit make eloquent point you stoop shamelessly to name calling.Complete absolute nonsense talk....Second class citizens are House boys and girls in Naija, Gatemen, Gardeners,Drivers who all work hard and get paid nothing. Immigrants make the fabric of this Nation and was built on the back of Immigrants. Never make dumb statements except you have the facts to back it up. It was Italians, swiss.Germans,Austrian,Polish, English, in the 1920's and 30's. Today it is Africans, Asians,Mexicans,Elsavadorians,Guatemalans,Jamaicans,Haitians, Cubans and u are too slow to understand change.

Landscaper=$30-60k a year
Chauffeur=$50k+ a year
Security=$9-32 per hour or even more.

Kokscity= (A Foul Mouth waiting to Explode ask wesleyanA)
America a country of Immigrants!!!!!!!

Ijebuman

I am a die Hard Democrat, i campaigned for Kerry in WV even if i must admit he was a lousy candidate,i donate monthly to Rahm Emmanuel and the DCCC because we need to take back the house in 06. But George Bush is not going to make me knock this land. Even with Bush it is still the best place to Live in. I do not like some laws and executive orders he has signed, but in 04 53% said they wanted him back in office and i have to live with that. If you say that Bush is bad then we are on the same page...But Bush does not affect my life like my county Government chairman and if you Know Yankee well, u will know well that "all Politics is Local". I still would like to know the country in your own mind that is the best place for someone to live in.

Freedom is not Free.

Joftech

The US is not a bed of Roses, but it is a better bed to sleep on. Let us not compare Nigeria to Singapore or Malaysia, how about you compare it to countries like SA, or dare i say Ghana, or how about we say Senegal. Now u are throwing a white flag by playing the "Conspiracy Card". That is a defeatist attitude. Like i said i have done 2 decades in Nigeria and a bunch of years in the US and trust me Razzmatazz is not how i feel. I clearly love this country and Thank it for the opportunity i was given and as a clear thinking Adult who landed here a few yrs ago with $200 and a dream, i must say i am thankful. Dude never knock it until u have tried it....... Naija is cool and all from a sentimental Point of view, but in terms of offering the Youth a chance? Please

Bob Marley rightfully said we need to fight for our rights.

Ijebuman

From ur Travels, where is the best place in the world and reason why?

One Vote here for Old Glory

Ijebuman

U have travelled around the US and you call a natural disaster like Katrina that clearly affected everyone and Michael Moores propaganda so called documentary as places to point for America's problems? Come on Dog this country has spent over $5Trillion on Poverty and clearly it is not enough, but per capita income is about $22k. But all the Marines and soldiers that fight as the best Trained and best equipped in the world. It cost over a Million dollars to get one combat pilot trained. Which other country invest in their people like that. All those poor people that join the army, marines,navy,army reserves,airforce,us coast guard" VOLUNTEER" and are paid reasonably well and have great benefits and give them free education ETC and all of them know the risk of combat and still want to do it. Willing to die for what u believe in is a Natural Human right ask MLK, ask Mandela, ask JFK, ask Rosa Parks................And On.

I have seen the soul of this Nation and people here have flaws and the society has issues, but there is simply no place on God's good Earth that compares to this Joint right here for real. Racism exist, trust me i see it every day but there are still servitude servants in Naija, racism and xenophobia in the UK, Nigeria and Cameron killing each other in Bakassi, Igbo Killed a Hundred Hausas in Aba recently, Race riots in France, Race Riots in Australia, Japanese are racist toward the Chinese, North and south Korea do not see eye to eye, Tutsi and Houto's killed One million of their fellow man and of course the Germans and the Jews had and still have Issues.

America has Issues and even with those Issues and the most diverse place on earth, this is still the best place "BARNONE" Place to live.......

One World One Dream
I had a dream and i made it Happen.
Bleeding Red,white and Blue...
SEMPER FI

Paddy_Lo

Once again you make very good points bro. Love Philly, Love South Street and of course the world famous Philly CheeseSteak. Nigeria is a real frustrating place and i went for fact finding and have been totally disappointed with the reforms i saw.Trust me i did not come with high expectations since i had been there only six month earlier. Any way i went to Accra on Vacation and you could see clearly that Naija was heading in a different direction and when Nigerians as much as we are travelled say things like we are giving up on Naija it sadens me.Foreign investment into the country has exceeded $80Billion in the last 20yrs and yet we cannot be guaranteed of Light. U know what F**K PHCN, F**K NNPC,F**k NPA,F**K FRSC They have all failed and Nigerians continue to fail themselves.F**K OBJ, IBB, MARWA, ATIKU, ODILI, KALU,ETC

Constructive Criticism is a Human and Moral Value.
Naija's please expect more of your country.

Ijebuman

Trust me bro more people would be better served armed for self defense. Of course they are some Lunatics out there but i can go into any neighborhood in this country and if my life is threatened i can defend myself thanks to the 2nd amendment. I am sure if you had the stats on people being killed by armed robbers on Nigerian highways you might just be surprised at those numbers. People's rights are violated by the cops in that country simply because they are armed. Infact i can argue that the man with the gun in Naija rules. An illiterate, untrained officer with a gun is God in Naija.

Ha! U are quoting a wingnut website, i live in this reality... There is simply no place better my broda.......Besides Freedom is not free, people have to die for it to be earned. Please forget it, the has been no terrorist strike in this country since 9/11 and that is a direct result of things like the "Patriot Act", and the "US VISIT" Programs.

Let Freedom Reign!
SEMPER FI

I might be in another state. No where near the delivery room, because i am not sure i can survive that experience. But i am not yet sure if i want kids, but if i have kids i will have my woman,baby mama, or wife sign a disclaimer that i do not have to be there. I am not a fan of blood....

Adoption is an Option

Seeni4Ever

Living in Greenbelt and that close to the White House and Congress, i am sure you know that when something passes the house,does not mean it is law yet. Make your audience better informed about the issue. The bill is part of a comprehensive Immigration Reform bill and might not even pass because of the hot button issue Republicans have in the Bill. Plus the are on a collision course with the White House because of the guest worker program and Bush might have an opportunity to Veto something for the first time.

Ijebuman

There is no other country on the face of the earth that is as free as this one.You are right they have improved their process for admitting people here. But i find it to be quicker and safer for citizens or residents. It is not a police state, u can still go to the white house and call Georgy Boy an Asshole and protest for years in front of the secret service etc. Anytime,anywhere you can move from California to Maine even to Toronto and do the speed limit or 10mph faster and not see one cop. U can go into a gun shop and buy a gun at least once a month. If u want to have sex with three women @ a time it is your business. The government is a government of laws and even the President has to abide by them. I am sorry you had a bad experience, but after 9/11 they had to respond.

Yankee= God's Own Country
Land of the Free
Home of the Brave
Only the strong shall survive
Live Free or Die
Strictly for Ballers
SEMPER FI

Omon

Like i said i just Came back from Naija and i am not sure why u telling me i am ignoring or giving up. Based on facts i saw on the ground, i tell you bro, it is not somewhere i would advice anyone to go and settle down without an option to leave. I went to invest and possibly relocate and i quickly realized that my country is Anti-small business. It is a dog eat dog world out there, and things are as bad as i have seen them. I lived thru IBB, Abacha, Diya, Shonekun, Shagari and it is still worse now with the so called democracy that we have adopted. I still want to know when last you visited Naija and make the case why i should go back home . I am willing to sell my home and liquidate all my assets, just make the case for Naija and remove all sentiments. You are a consultant for the FRN and i am an investor, make the case why i should come and invest my $'s in ur country.

Let Freedom reign

@ Omon

I am not sure where you r getting you facts from in the 50"s and 60"s, Africans American stood and fought for "their country". It was called the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. There was also the civil war in the US because Americans knew there was something worth fighting for. But the Average Naija man cannot see what to fight for, other than his immediate family or someone that speaks his dialect. Trust me bro the soup is not done here...... You have to believe in something for you to be willing to die for it. A lot of us do not believe in Naija and that is why leaving seems to be a better option. Omon i would never have gotten the options to expand my view of life in that distressing country. I Love my country but being a minority and seeing what i recently saw i am very pessimistic that things will ever get better except we have a revolution or Civil war. Countries like Venezuela, Bolivia, Bosnia, East European Block ETC Have done that a have gotten better results. I want to be optimistic like you but i just returned and things were worse than when i last went only six months prior to my last visit. Roads, Light, water, health services ETC have all crumbled......When last did u go?


Kokscity is willing to die for the US.
SEMPER FI

Joftech

I am still waiting for the Good things Nigeria has to offer. Infact in Utah you do not earn as much, but in Utah a town house cost about $150k and in parts of NY that town house can be as much as $4Million. So in NY you earn more and pay more, and in Utah the reverse is true. Come on Dog..All the world is watching and rate Nigeria as the Third must corrupt country in the world. Expect more from your country and stop making excuses for them.


Nigeria a Death Trap

Joftech

What are the good sides of Nigeria and comparer it to its peers. I am all Ears my Broda.Ur point about The US @ 45 has no basis because there is more accountability all over the world now and the US figured out how to live by a constitution which has guided them well for over 200 yrs. Please compare Nigeria to countries that are 45yrs or more and tell me what you see that is good about Nigeria and please use per capita income and GDP's as yard sticks.I will wait for a response!!!!!!

Naija a country in Decay!

2004 or 05 GMC Yukon Denali........Absolutely a great car to drive. 350hp of true Detroit muscle and a drive like no other. With 24 inch rims and atleast 3000+watts thumping in the background.

Car Freak

Loveth it is overrated,If you have to travel on Vacation, instead of London go to Mombasa Kenya or Malinde in Kenya. London is expensive as hell. I could not last more than 72hrs and i had planned to stay a week. Too many Nigerians in a small place that makes it feel just like Lagos with a touch of Abuja but with out the steroids Lagos has. Or do Spain instead if you want to travel.......Even Cape Town SA Absolutely Gorgeous!!!!

Joftech

There are about 3million Millionaires in the US, please forget racism there is more Xenophobia between the 220+ Tribes than racism here. There are more telephone lines in New York city population 9million than in the whole sub saharan Africa. Life expectancy is @ 75 and growing in this country. I am not sure why you would equate theives like Dangote that have ripped off Naija's wealth thanks to Abacha, and a country with a population of 300million and a workforce of nearly 160million and has an unemployment rate of less than 5%.Haba!Listen my friend the Nigerian government is reponsible for the welfare of it's citizenry, with Oil resrves to the tune of 40billion barrels and Natural Gas reserves up the wazu, you would think that some basic human needs i.e water, light and shelter will be atleast affordable. Listen in Ghana today they give you a weeks notice b4 taking power and you are wondering why Nigerian men are leaving. If i had the choice and i was holed up in Naija, it is a no brainer.........Look for a place where you can expand your mind and get the hell out that death trap.

(A sad Nigerian in an adopted country)

Joftech

I am sorry to bust your bubble, but i do not think Naija will make it as one Nation @ 60yrs old. Either the masses revolt or the will be a Biafra Nation. Life expectancy is @ 43yrs and falling, Police force is 94% corrupt, Nigerian Lectures make $210 a month on Average. Now all that is a recipe for disater my dear friend......If you are looking for a Good life in Naija, u must have great connections or a Last name that has a ring to it. Trust me It is a crazy place and even with a lot of money on hand i could not see beyond the artificial road blocks that is the infrastructure called the Government.

Mosiate more like 95% will ditch their lives and bounce out of Nigeria for Yankee. From Okada man to the guy selling recharge card on the streets, including the Aje butter in V/I. I am telling you that place has nothing to offer. The only country where salaries are paid directly from Natural resources. Forget Yankee i think 60% will leave for South Africa. And maybe even 40% would rather be in Ghana.

Paddy O: Spoken like a true Patroit.

Kazey, Please clarify between facts and your Opinion. The fact is most Nigerians would leave their country rather than try to make things work . Another fact is that only 10% of Americans have a US Passport. Now how can you say that Nigeria is a fun place to live and make ends meet, and you are telling us that convincingly from Malaysia. The country you are in right now, 15yrs had a worse Per capita income than Naija and now the reverse is true. Naija is a death trap and i have lived on Both sides of the Atlantic. I came back from Naija only about 2weeks ago and wanted to cry for my country and fellow Naija men. Unemployment @ 50% or more. PHD Holders that have graduated for at least 12 yrs cannot find work. Corruption is as rampant as Pure water, and of-course Nigeria's third rail "Armed Robbery" is on the up swing again. Please read the national Dailies, we cannot even fly a sound airline that has a well maintained fleet.

Now compare it to Yankee or better still the State of Texas. Light guaranteed, Health services a phone call away, Unemployment 5%, no state income tax, Governor takes home a salary and does not need to steal from state coffers. Accountability of the Police force, U live without having a fence like a fortress, freedom of speech,freedom to assemble, basic human rights defended and on and on and on!!!!!!

Yankee is God's on Country
Land of the Free,
Home of the Brave,
Live Free or Die,
If you can dream it,u can make it Happen.
God Bless America, Barnone the best place in the world to Live. That is why there are people from every tribe,race, color and creed come here. If you can get out of Naija please do so. Young men are just forsaken in that decaying country of ours.

SEMPER FI

Dude! I mean Ralex! U are making me pull off the hair on my neck . I am literally thowing up on your behalf. The writing on the wall is clear " U ARE WASHING A CAR FOR ANOTHER MAN TO DRIVE" Save yourself and Bounce........

Don't knock it if you have not tried it. I think the husband is lacking if the wife is looking. Trooper keep trucking along just make sure it is on the DL. Not saying i have done it, but i do not know how i would react if the oppurtunity arose. Kokscity stop lying to yourself, you will jump all over that C*****.

Chocolate

Here is the crazy point of view from a mad man. I think that you need to tell that asswipe to pay you all the back child support he owes, and put him on a very strict visitation process, and make sure his guilt tears him up. Now how you tell your son that he has a father after 10yrs is the tough one,kids at that age are very impresionable. But if he already has a Father figure in his life i recommend you treat the biological father strictly as a sperm donor. But i think a child is always a blessing and i am not sure what the Laws are in the UK in terms of child support and custody and all, but if i were u i will go "Rambo" on his behind. I am sorry but u need to remove the sentiments and just look out for yourself and your son and treat him like he is simply a "sperm donor". I would address this from a business point of view and make sure your son is taken care of. He did not do nothing in 10yrs, there is no reason to expect anything now.........So ask that wanksta what he has to offer your kid after 10yrs and depending on what you hear make a decision from there. And by the way when he calls tell him to correspond with you via email...... So you have records.

Rubbish=S**T