₦airaland Forum

Nigeriafirstlad:
After the flood devastation South South region is now seperated.

How will I go home this Christmas, I don't have a helicopter.

Amedino99:
unles they explicitly state their intentions, I'm not trusting those innit boys one bit. Would be a good addition tho.

You don't select yourself for national team selection.

At best you may make private communicationd you wait to be approached.

Because it's not just a footballing decision Samson Siasia and Salisu have shown there is more to what we see.

Meliforme:
I don't think it is down to his footballing.

He was in the shop window in Frebch league one had one season end of the season nobody interested. He had to descend to Turkey .

It has been downhill since

V.O. is now top of the goal scoring chart in Seria A, two good games including a hat trick and he is top dog. Excellent progession.

It's not easy but he has done it, the season is young can he keep it up.

Then that big move to , who knows Real, Barca, Man U. etc will come in , let's see.

BannedLarge:
Iheanacho sef has at least given us one World class season. He has shown that, he is capable of performing when he is mentally prepared

He has had only one good season at Leicester city in 2020/21 he was among the top 14 goals scorers with 12 goals, that's very good but not World class.

He has returned to his mediocre self one again.

Meliforme:
Defensive awareness and sharpness is one of Awaziem's forte, and it is one of the qualities he has above the others.

What makes you think that Omeruo is not it right now? I want to know.

Regarding Balogun, is pace the first quality you consider in a CB.

I am yet to put a finger to the reason why Bassey started games ahead of Balogun at CB position in Rangers FC. I don't think it is for footballing reasons.

Bassey is a fullback, it is written all over his game, i mean his skills and decisions. As it stands, I will pick Awaziem, Balogun, Omeruo ahead of Bassey, they thrive better at CB.

So why has his career always been on a downward spiral ❓

Culminating in him playing in the backwaters of Europe in Croatia.

fabyom:
By what criteria is Sadiq and Moffi better than Onachu. I am waiting.

Thank you

Righteousness2:
That's great Mr. Yul. The office of a Minister of God is a great office. But you must need to put your house in order so the devil will not have legal right over you.

Make peace with GOD and your Orginal wife. The wife of your youth.
Do away with your concubine. She is not your wife. She is your Sin/Fornicating partner.

Mr Righteousness one question ❓there is man who was a King that God described as " A man after my own heart" indeed the lineage of Christ can be traced through him. Of which Christ is often called , " Son of David"

How many wives and concubines did he have please❓

The nation of Israel, God's chosen was birthed from two wives and two concubines, God's plan, what say you ❓❓

When was polygamy proscribed and or made unlawful, please dont use conjecture or assumptive probability ❓❓❓

When you have established these by purity of scripture then substantiate SIN in this regard , if you can ❓❓❓❓

If you know the word of God �� you cannot be decieved. However, if you don't, then you are already DECIEVED you just don't know it .

daveP:
I think you're assumptive rather.

The attributes you mentioned are enough to make way in the EPL. He doesn't have to be a Mo Salah or Harry Kane in his first season.


Regardless of that angle, he has just what it takes right now to play EPL.

Aspa shining beyond expectation, that's his homework to do. He knows that too. Very much.

Make way and play in the EPL a very big YES , but to THRIVE he will need more.

Thrive in the context of a top 5 goal scorer in the EPL at the end of each season.

With regards to the bold , V.O. is yet to exceed expectations in Seria A , in what is his now third season.

Unless you want to do unnecessary praise singing and over hype.

TheGoodJoe:
Writing long epistle does not change that your point is totally myopic. It is strictly from a bias point of view.

It is ridiculous to use two games against Liverpool, on one Liverpool were torn to shreds by Napoli to say a player will find it difficult in the EPL.

It is not logical for even a baby football watcher to think so. You are wrong here. Long Epistles and verbal attacks won't change the fact that you made an illogical point

You keep using your perception which is already prejudiced.

Where did I say V.O. will struggle, I said if he is to THRIVE he will have to improve.

gatecrash123:
someone that has over 280 goals and almost 100 assist shouldn't be be considered as a world class?
Shay u dey whine me ni?

He has scored 90 EPL goals in the premier League over near 260 games over 11 seasons, he has never been among the top 5 goal scorers in the EPL in his career.

Indeed his last 5 season in the EPL have been Largely anonymous, maybe you have a different definition for world class.

What's your definition of world class please that may help to understand our differing positions

TheGoodJoe:
No matter how you try to downgrade Victor OSIMHEN, your negative views does not mean anything.

A game or two is not enough to judge a player. Learn that today.

No big club will ever use two games to judge a player. Every great player have had numerous poor games. Even Theirry Henry and Messi.

So that point does not add up in any way.

Here we go again , your perception is not my position.

Because I don't get all emotively euphoric about your favourite player does not mean, I have DOWNGRADED him .

I don't do praise singing thats your department.

Because I refuse to join your V.O. choir doesn't mean negative disposition towards your idol.

Get a grip stop acting up and misrepresentating matters to suit your parochial one track narrative. And anyone who doesn't agree is your enemy of progress.

Sychophancy and praise singing will not help a player, but constructive even harsh criticism will.

I did not say no big club will sign him , if you go back I used the term THRIVE. It's one thing to join a big club it's another to thrive.

AndSunGorilla:
First leg before he got injured, he showed the same liverpool shege.

So much shege, he got a hatrick and three assists.

daveP:
Chai. I want to understand your angle. But Konate has quieted some good strikers in EPL and got rounded up by small boys in the same league. Add unknown regulars. If we are to use 1 game to conclude abilities, then even RVP and Rooney will be nobodies today.

Nunez is still upcoming. I very well want to assume you saw the number of articles written about if he can fo it in the EPL? He is still adapting till now. For VO, he personally knows he will need to up his game if he gets to the EPL. And that he can't do alone either. So no need to make a fuss about it? He is climbing that ladder and i don't see him stopping. You can't deny the effort isn't there since he returned from injury. When EPL comes, anything can happen. But he will get through. That i believe.

You are being assumptive, I did not use one game to make any conclusion, CHAI ! ! !

Football is like psychology there are more probabilities than conclusions albeit informed probabilities.

This is why last seasons super star can be this season flop. Consider Sanchez outstanding at Arsenal a big flop at United.

But I deviate, l looked at V.O. attributes that have given him great success so far.

I reiterate, pace, blind determined relentless raging attack. He is physical but not overly ,( wouldn't call him a muscle head) good aerial ability and finishing. However , guile, trickery sublime skill and technical ability are not his attributes.

The EPL is extremely fast and physical much more so than Seria A, French league one and the Belgium league. For him to thrive at a top 5 EPL club he will need more.

He is well known now, do you know that clubs have access to hours of footage of individual players and they prepare meticulously covering every detail. It's quite normal for individual players to go analysts and say give me 2 hours on V.O.

My view is simplistic , which is what he experienced in his two games against Liverpool is a precursor to what he will find week in week out playing in the EPL. But with greater expectations, as a top goal scorer from Seria A.

Odunayaw:
You'd know all about the gutter because that's where you constantly reside

Go and check my initial comment to you and see the rabid response you gave to it

Now get off that moral high horse

Go back to the school of civility and until you do.

You will be given the best answer SILENCE

gatecrash123:
you don't have a point. olivier giroud played an entire 90 minutes without touching the ball, he also played 546 minutes without getting a shot on target. You can't tell me giroud is not a world class footballer . Mind you he scored two and assisted two in their ucl match yesterday

Sorry to burst your bubble Giroud has never and probably will never be a world class footballer.

Unless you have a very low threshold for what you call World class .

TheGoodJoe:
No one is emotional except you. It was the[b] same emotional bias you used to try to write Manxh City Academy off[/b].

You look for any little ripple to try to rant.

One game is not enough to use to judge. Even an infant football watcher know this.

You are using a game of to run a decision of a player's possibility to flourish in the EPL.

It is totally illogical and it is only a bias person that will make such a bent remark.

Please some degree of objectivity and maturity.

Once again you deviate from the subject matter , what has Manchester city Academy got to do with subject we are discussing ❓

Actually it's two games against Liverpool without scoring.

You are too presumptuous, I aligned V.O. attributes and l skill sets to the demands of the EPL and the top level teams he should be associated with. Not just on game.

Before this current discourse , I talked about the teams he would be most suited too. So my view did not start a few days ago .

I will tell you in football one exceptional game will get you noticed and two will be get you offers and by the third you can probably get a pre- contract agreement.

It works vice versa , if you have been hyped to the heavens and you have an average game it will be considered a poor game, if in the second game you don't improve bids are off and interest dies. Football is characterized by short term decisions.

Odunayaw:
You only made an alphabet soup of rants

I didn't read it because it came from your anus as usual

I guess you have a great view because that's where your head is right up your own petrid orifice.

Once again I feel sorry you, your inability to engage in any sort of civil substantive discourse always sees you resort to your comfort zone, the rancid gutter.

skallion7:
Crap

Very apt thats what your brain is full of .

I sympathize with you , it's too much for you to dissect and appraise and highlight faults and or error in deductions.

TheGoodJoe:
You are making your deduction from one game. Which is illogical. You can't talk attributes because Victor OSIMHEN has all the attributes to make it in the EPL.

He is fast.
He is skillful.
He is lethal in front of goal.
He is a pressing machine. He even presses far better than Haaland.
He is comfortable on both wings.

So your point is strictly based on bias. You used the same bias when you thought he could not do it in a top league. If OSIMHEN moves to the EPLwith a strong offensive side, he will rip the league to shreds.

Keep your bias aside and say the truth.

You never stick to specifics you evade the subject and create a new narrative to suit your sentiment based notions.

I pointed out specifically that V.O. got schooled, bullied, out muscled and out paced in this game against Liverpool CB Van Dyke and Konate. This is the nature of the EPL not all defenders will be like those two. But that's the level he needs to contend with to be a top player in the EPL.

Consider the bold stop being infantile and misrepresentating facts. Let me remind you , many years ago when V.O.was at Wolfsburg this is what I said at that TIME.

He would not get past the selection requirements for a top academy in the EPL and that included some championship academies at the TIME.

I advised that he should drop to Bundisliga 2 and or a less competitive league where his skill sets will be better developed and reinvent himself and then move up. He seemingly took my advice because that's exactly what he did.

V.O. is very direct but guile, trickery, sublime skill I would not say he has. But speed undoubtedly, relentless determined unbridled rage a big YES. His physicality has improved over the years but he is not an overly physical player like Haaland, Lukaku, Mitrovic, etc

Stop getting overly emotional, because I dont get euphoric about players you are obsessive about.

Emmy450:
Trash as usual. Every player has a day off. Why didn't you write this long epistle in the first leg where he out muscle and outplayed vvd?? Leading to a penalty, where was your objectivity when he scored 2goals against ur Leicester city in England?? Man you cap alot!!! for a man who works with several football clubs you should no better.

In looking at a player you look at how well his attributes will adapt to your team ethos, unique character and strategy.

I am looking at the top EPL teams not the Liecester City level of teams who probably cannot afford to buy V.O.

He will be looked at by the top 6 teams in the EPL not the mid to struggling teams. And for the top level expectations are different as well as standards.

Finally last week spent a few days looking at PSG youth team at tournament in Portugal. And the skill sets are different, shockingly the U14 to U19 set of players are almost all black African. So my view is not completely English biased. Although BREXIT has created new challenges for us .

TheGoodJoe:
Honestly, did you just post this? One of the most shallow analysis I have ever read online and it is not a dig on you. Even a baby football analyst knows you can not judge a player with one game.

Haaland failed to score against Liverpool in his first game. Analyst with your kind of orientation will say what works in Bundesliga won't work in the EPL.

Once again in your emotions get the better of you.

What's the fastest and most physical league as well as competitive league in the world, The EPL.

Haaland is an enigma with a skill set that is made for the EPL , he is a true number 9. He can even be more physical in the EPL than the Bundisliga. In addition I've never seen a 6"5' player with his acceleration.

I didn't make any deduction, just that V.O. will require more to succeed in the EPL. He has played two games against a not on top of their game Liverpool and failed to score.

But that's not particularly relevant, it was the way he got checked, bodied and locked by a Konate that was interesting.

V.O. is the most aggressive, relentlessly determined, hot headed with rage I know. However, Konate just poured ice cold water on him and he couldn't do much. Those attributes that have given him great success in Seria A and French one may not be enough in the EPL. That's objective appraisal not emotive preference and favouritism.

To use your proposition of sentiment, Saka, Martinelli, Mitrovic, Awoniyi , Sancho, Rashford have all scored against against Liverpool. Why not therefore Haaland and V.O.

All these players used guile, trickery , technique and skill and with Awoniyi plain good luck to score.

These are not the attributes of V.O. he needs to find another way IF he wants to thrive in the EPL.

Since the Liverpool Vs Napoli match there has been be a deafening silence that is bewildering and quite surprising. But then again considering the unbridled favouritism our V.O. gets here it should be expected.

Nonetheless, this was supposed to be the game our world class striker, Monster striker V.O. announced himself to the world as well as to potential EPL suitors.

But it didn't happen, he failed the test .

Instead there has been an outpouring of emotive sentiment based rhetoric. Some being by those best described as TheSuperDelusional as they are suggesting he was continuously fouled and unfairly treated.

Admittance of failure is the beginning of success it's the basis of constructive criticism. You are then able to address gaps in your skill sets and strategy and improve.

But instead many are blaming the weather, unfair referees, the bright red Liverpool strip, etc.

The EPL is the most competitive, fastest and physically exerting football league in the world. What works in Seria A may not necessarily work in the EPL.

V.O. is no longer an unknown quantity, he is not unknown he is one of the main focal points for Napoli attack. Liverpool would have gone through hours of footage of Osimhen and studied him in depth. His strengths and weaknesses.

In addition Liverpool FC have been having a torrid time in the EPL this season, they are off the mark standing 9th in the league table with even Fulham above them. They needed this win and would be like a wounded Lion . They return of Konate absolutely vital to them as well.

In summary V.O. got out muscled , out paced and got bodied all over the pitch, he couldn't get one shot off on target. Konate had him locked down and Vsmndykr put pad lock on the gate. Actually he actually did most of the fouls on Konate and resorted to desperate measures including simulation.

This would be a good learning experience if taken in the right context critically, for V.O. to up his game As opposed to what most are saying here.

Odunayaw:
What you bolded was practically saying[b] Dennis being better is obviously something you'd not have agreed with were he not playing in England[/b]!

You also are befuddled with emotive negative bias and are unable to reason objectively.

What happens to any football player that leaves a lower quality and less competitive league to a much higher one❓

In this case, from the Belgium league rated 13th to the EPL rated number 1 in Europe. But in addition he performed above expectations.

As a consequence his general rating and value went much higher, this is what happens in football. Did you expect Dennis rating to go down �

Your are eviscerating the substance upon which football appraisal is anchored upon and replaced it with a nonsensical proposition without any iota of substance.

You need help, bad belle is making you sick, jumped on a sinking ship proposition in your bitter prejudice.

Philosopher1979:
If nwakali plays against Portugal he will collect the midfield against Portugal. The judgement of these Europeans about African players is not always accurate.
Poseiro should try it. Our nwakali in midfield against Portugal and he will outshine them.
Okay uzihi from an obscure league did it against Messi and co in 2018 world cup and recently against Manu.
Nwakali can do something similar. Europeans are not infallible in their judgement

Dude is anonymous in low level league and has absolutely no business being in the SE.

Danielnino00:
Under what basis would you assume that Dennis would perform at Villarreal and Chukwueze won't perform at Forest? Do both teams even play the same way? Of you aren't aware that a team's style of play can affect a player's performance? That was how you made fhe dumb Porto and Fulham comparison..

Again, no one is disputing that Dennis isn't the better player..we know.. you never rated Dennis until he moved to England... The point is that based on current form, Chukwueze has been better than Dennis so far this season.. Don't also forget that Chukwueze has been part of fhe national team for longer than Dennis..

Your prejudice had befuddled your mind and entire sense of reasoning.

Where do l start to try and reason with the unreasonable. Dem say , " Who deh follow craze man deh argue , himself deh craze.

You have agreed with me and then you condemn my position.

I think you are confused.

Toylove:
Kinda unrelated to this thread,
What happened to dele alli...
The fall off is too drastic



Cc komekn

He drives a Rolls Royce Culinan like to party has issues and is no longer committed to his career IMO.

Doesn't have a stable family background and he has lllost his way .

Ppogbae:
Osimhen needs to follow CR7 regimen and build muscle. Napoli should hire a conditioning coach for him.

Agreed he needs a professional sports scientist to get him some muscle without compromising his pace and agility.

He has over the years put on a lot more muscle , when he first started he was very lightweight.

Danielnino00:
3 goals and 4 assists in 18 games so far this season... Dennis has one goal and is no longer a starter at Forest. So based on current form, I'll take Chukwueze ahead of him...

If you can be honest , put Dennis in that Villarreal team and what do you think his stats will be.

Or if you like vice versa with Chukwueze in Forest.

My opinion remains the same Dennis is a lot better.

AndSunGorilla:
Without any ulterior motives, it has been a while we saw something about the segunda? How are Nwakali and Omeruo faring?

Dude talk better thing .

I've substantiated my opinion on that the league is poor .

Danielnino00:
I agree .. we need a more direct approach... Lookman and Dennis would have been my idea wing forwards to play alongside Osimhen,but Dennis hasn't been playing much this season,so I think I'll go with Chukwueze... Ejuke is one player that could metamorphosis into a deadly winger if he could learn to be more productive...

Chukwueze is not better than Dennis and is a player with limitations can only play as an outright winger not much else. How many goals has he scored this season ?

Dennis is far more versatile and a much better goal threat.

LordReed:
Nigeria criminalised same sex coupling what sanction did US impose on Nigeria? What laws has the US made that force anybody to be LGBTQ? How has US media depicting same sex coupling forced anybody to be LGBTQ?

You live in a vacuum and have no idea , what you are talking about.

The socio dynamic deconstruction of normality to include abnormal depravity as normality. Has changed the pillars upon which society has rested for thousands of years.

In modem times they criminalised the critical appraisal of this deviant behaviour. Even the diction is condemnatory , i.e. homophobia which in itself prevent any criticism.

In the UK your 12 your old child can declare himself or herself as gay , lesbian or identify with a different gender from birth.

If you are to challenge that behaviour you will be prosecuted for child abuse and your child taken into state care. With your parental rights extinguished into vapor.

So don't tell me nonsense about USA not creating laws to force people into LGBT.

In the UK the legal age for sexual activity is 16 but you cam change your gender at 12 and your sexual preference. Thar's simply hypocritical bigoted MADNESS.

The Nigerian government should create harsher laws to sanction the promotion and advocacy of this sick disgusting perversion.