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andrewbaba44:
Porto doesn’t have money like Fulham ,and that means Fulham are better than them

Stop being deluded

Go and ask Mané why ekuke player like Hudson odoi is earning more than him since bigger salary is a better player

You can also ask salah why Jadon sancho is earning more than him since you no wan receive sense

Jadson sancho and Hudson odoi is better than salah and mane ,I guess

Osinwin eniyan

Please stop acting like you are not educated , this is not difficult for you to do please.

Address my assertion with methodology , examine critically discount my position with facts and rational.

Please raise the level of discourse dont just make noise.

Actually Mane gets considerably more of than Odoi, l assure you with all the performance related clauses. I don't need to say more.

Porto have a business model buy them cheap sell them high and place huge transfer clauses on their contracts. This happens a lot with African players in Portugal. I no longer have much dealing with Portugal.

Them say " Na money deh kill beta Soup"

Now please be rational and a gentleman.

zicky:
kc was Leicester highest goal scorer in all competitions last season, now tell me how Dennis has scored more goals in a single season than KC in 3 seasons. LIAR

Vardy was the highest goal scorer in the EPL for Leicester last season with 15 goals. I tend to lean to only EPL where the quality of opposition is of s particular standard.

As opposed to cup games where you may play weakened teams by selection and or very low league teams. This gives a skewed view of a player ability.

From 2017 season to 2019 KC played 71 game's and scored 9 goals. Dennis has not completed his first season in the EPL and has already scored 9.

kingphilip:
I tire o.

If Villarreal had lost, he'll tell you that apart from Madrid, Barcelona and AthletiCo, all other teams in the La Liga will struggle to be in the top 15 of the Championship.

They say make we accept everybody opinion for here maybe Subzero go help Andrew help us tow am commot from this thread.

Food for thought

The best striker in the Eredivisie couldn't get more than 7 Goals in the EPL, his last season he had 3 goals in the EPL.

The best strikers in the Championship last season are in the EPL and have Toney 11 and 7 Pukki goals already with about 10 games left in the EPL.

The best striker in Villa Real, is Arnaud Danjuma left the Championship he is on 8 goals from 18 games. He wasn't the best striker in the Championship. Villarreal paid £25 million for him.

Look at the top 10 strikers in the Eredivisie and tell me one who is better than Mitrovich. Because Haller is definitely not.

Another look at transfer fees for player's from this Championship that you look down at with disdain. Ollie Watkins cost Villa £30 million from Brentford and Benrahma to West Ham about £20 million. That's just one club.

To make it easier for you see the list below. Open your mind and do an objective.

La Liga is a top leagues but with huge disparities between clubs. So in the past two decades the league had essentially been Real, Barca and Athleti

However for teams from mid table and below they would not dominate the Championship in my opinion.

Samueltemi337:
Zaidu won't get into any EPL team



Zaidu that's bigger than some EPL teams



Joker

I don't know any left back in the EPL that earns £6k a week .

Even in the Championship that will be a struggle possibly the bottom teams.

What you earn in football has a relationship with your quality.

Karlovych:
Eredivisie is a lowly rated league but the Championship is not, you even brought up league one players. You think the national team is a circus

Our player's in the current team a good number are from Turkey, Cyprus, S.Africa, Bundesliga 2, Segundo division.

Where did our arguably best Midfielder come from Aribo is it not league one essentially.

So you are calling the SE a circus or your being bigoted with double standard.

maidaboi:
because Bissouma will not cost as Ndidi

Bissouma is simply better .

kellycute:
another 5 naira lie. Nacho was the highest goal scorer for Leicester last season in all competition. Cheap liar!!

KC was not the highest goal scorer in the EPL for Leicester last season.

Jamie Vardy had 15 goals in the EPL last season .

Who is the LIAR now ❓

kingphilip:
League one?

Andrewbaba44 abeg come carry your guy waka commot here abeg. How can league one be in the same write up with the Eredivisie?

The same way Aribo came from league one into the SE.

Or your go back further Dele Alli from league one to Tottenham and England.

Danielnino00:
“If you want to be a striker for Liverpool, you have to work your f***ing socks off in each game.

“You have to defend the width, you have to defend whatever. That is important.

“That’s why we change. Not because they didn’t score, because they scored and we still change.

“But it’s about how much can they help us in all the situations, and for that you need fresh legs.” - Klopp

CC: Thegoodjoe .. Klopp is clearly hinting here that he has specific preference for the number nine role.. Not much different from what Eguavon is saying.. Expect that I don't think that kind of preference can work in a national team setting due to limited time to try out new things..

Klopp is absolutely keyed into work rate, this is something the football analysts make report's on continuously. Can we do more is the question.

I am know a youth player under 18 , ABSOLUTELY outstanding , skilful, dominant and technically astute.

He doesn't have to do too much at U23, U19 etc to dominate and as a result his work rate can be suspect. But it's not noticed at youth level AT ALL.

However, he goes to first team training and it becomes exposed and a lesser player get into the first team because he works relentlessly although he is not as good. That youth player is Tyler Morton.

andrewbaba44:
You are really in drugs

What concerns what a player earns and his footballing ability ?

Go and ask Neymar, Mbappe, Lukaku, etc ❓❓

There is a direct and incontrovertible relationship between what a player earns his unique skill set and his attributes .

To get those unique attributes that will bring competitive advantage in the game for the club ,they the club are willing to pay and what they pay is a reflection of the value placed on your attributes.

What your are saying is balderdash.

Danielnino00:
This guy is on meth.. You can't convince me otherwise...

Porto and Fulham on the same level??

The best thing to ever happen to Fulham in many years was them reaching that UEFA cup final... Porto have been European champions! They are the best team in the Portuguese league that's ranked #6 in Europe..
How can they be on the same level with Fulham??
Aside Liverpool, City and Chelsea, none of the remaining prenier league teams currently can comfortably beat Porto...

This is meth at work abeg...

It's unfortunate that Championship teams dont get to play in Europe unless they win the FA Cup .

Otherwise I believe Fulham have a good chance of beating Porto.

Stop being sentimental and emotive.

Objectively speaking give me two forward player in Porto that are better than Ryan Kent and Mitrovich in Fulham. Assesss and appraise in a quasi balance score card methodology.

Add to that the entire defence of Porto Vs Fulham.

Please don't just say they are better appraise with specifics don't be ASSUMPTIVE be objective. And if you open your mind you will begin to see a different perspective.

andrewbaba44:
No Fulham player will start at Porto ,But yet zaidu won’t get into Fulham team ,you must be very silly

That’s how you would have said Luis Diaz won’t get into Fulham team because the Portuguese league is weak but he got into Liverpool team

Fulham is a useless club ,the last time I checked club rankings even leganes at the Spanish second division are rated ahead of them

Anntonee Robinson is so good yet he still plays at the championship and no epl club

Stop clowning and disgracing Yourself here and stop this your Fulham nonsense

You actually don’t even watch football because you spew to much nonsense ,even Fulham players won’t agree with the stupid trash you are talking here

Common get out of this place till you start making sense

Rubbish

You are changing the narrative and talking without any substance.

We talked specifically about Zaidu and the left back position. And specifically Zaidu is not better than Antonee "Jedi" Robinson.

I substantiated my opinion with facts to anchor ⚓ my deduction upon.

I went on further to say AGAIN specifically that no of the forward players in Porto are better than Mitrovich. I beciuld add Ryan Kent, Bobby and Kebano and Fabio Carvalho.

You mentioned Liverpool FC as your benchmark with regards to player quality. Carvalho has signed pre- contract he will be a Liverpool player next season, teenager Harvey Elliott left Fulham and is a Liverpool player now.

Does that make all Fulham player's EPL quality not exactly although they will all be in the EPL next season.

The current right back for Fulham Neco Williams has 17 caps for Wales and is a Liverpool FC player.

Pepe the highest paid player in Porto at £48k , is about 40 years old and slow, not physically dominating he will not get into Fulham team.

Finally, Zaidu earns £6k a week in Porto Antonee is on £60k a week that's 10 times higher. Look at the bold, players signed by AC Milan and he has no reason to leave Fulham they are back in the EPL add to that he is contracted Fulham will not sell.

Tell me one of the Porto Midfielder that's better than Anguissa ❓

Why can your not have a substansive based discourse everything you have said is just emotive preference based on self birthed assumption.

Contend with me on facts and substance not arrant noise making please.

chrisooblog:
Please this is a very pedestrian criteria.

It will be like saying Nigeria is higher than Canada in the FIFA ranking therefore Zaidu is better than Alphonso Davies.

Zaidu is not a world class LB but disrespecting someone who features consistently for his club in European competition is not it.

Even Maguire who has been consistently dropping clangers lately won't be so disrespected to the extent of saying players in Fulham are better than him.

First of all you are too rigid in your perceptions which are not knowledge based but emotive preference.

You assume that Porto is a bigger and Superior club than Fulham. And therefore condescending to say Zaidu will not get into Fulham.

That's why a gave an appraisal of the current left back in comparison to Zaidu. Getting a move from the Championship to the top three league in Europe is quite common. That in itself gives you an Idea of the quality.

Teremi, Evanilson Martinez and Vierra are Porto forward players they are not as good as Fulham's this is very plane to see. None of them can touch the boots of Mitrovich.

What you must understand, it's quite common for players to leave first tier leagues to play in the second tier English Championship.

At the end of the day players will mostly choose money over assumed prestige of the league.

If you look at the wages Porto pays it's players it can not compete with Fulham. Imagine the highest paid player is a near retired Pepe from Real Madrid on £48k a week.

Let's get back to the main subject which was would Zaidu get into the Fulham team and the answer is no. He is not good enough apart from being technically poor.

Zaidu would probably jump at the chance to play for Fulham. Finally ,Money £££$$$$€€€ "TALKS" and football players WALK.

Antonee "Jedi" earns 10 times more than what Zaidu earns each week .

By the way Tosin Adarabioyo is better than Maguire IMO.

semid4lyfe:
1.That's the problem, Eguavoen is hung up on the past and is too player centric.

A good coach harnesses the talents at his disposal and adopts tactics suited to their strengths and to neutralize the opponents.

For example, Tunisia was depleted and without 12 players (some of them key players) when they played us at the AFCON. The coach did not whine. Instead, he adopted a tactical formation that overloaded the midfield, played close & compact, cut off our wingplay by double marking our wingers and got the win.

2. Eguavoen is misyarning and making gaffes all over the place.

➡️Admitting some players were invited to pacify certain people & interests

➡️Saying he has not traveled to watch some players play live and that's why they were not invited.

That's a nonsensical statement. This is 2022 for crying out loud and with the internet one can comfortably watch matches in the comfort of his/her living room and assess players.

➡️Hyping a retired player with questionable commitment and trying to bring him back into the fold

➡️Saying he knows his starting 11 against Ghana when the players have not reported to camp and had any training.

➡️Saying he cannot play through the middle (midfield) because he lacks players like Mutiu Adepoju and the late Thompson Oliha.

When you juxtapose the last two statements, you'll realize Eguavoen has already given away his formation and tactics for the game against ghana

Eguavoen no try abeg.


By the way, there was nothing special in Thompson Oliha and Mutiu Adepoju. It's just Eguavoen and his nostalgia for the past.

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If this is truly what Eguavon has said then we are in for "long Ting" these word imply person lackiing in capacity.

Ghana have Chris Houghton on the team expect a well though out strategy and strategic plan.

Eguavon better wake up from his Nostalgic dream and get with current times.

zicky:
Dennis is an average player, the way he's hyped here as the best thing to happen to the SE as if he has been brilliant for at least 3 seasons. There is nothing Dennis is doing in the EPL that the likes of Ighalo, iheanacho, Osaze and yakubu have not done.

KC cannot be on the same page Ighalo, Osaze and Yakubu.

Dennis has scored more goals in one season than KC scored in the EPL in three seasons.

Dennis has not needed three seasons of Mediocrity to wake up and be counted.

KC has gone back to his former mediocre self so far 2 goals this season .

JayromWrites:
Komekn

What's your take about this Semenyo guy from the championship rumored to be called up for the Black stars


Our Bledas be making it look like it's the return of gyang

He is unfortunately just average, not outstanding in any way he has scored 6 Goals in the Championship.

Elijah Adebayo is way better than him who has 13 goals in the Championship for Luton Town.

I would say Afolayan, Ladapo and Udoh all with over 10 goals in league one are better than him.

andrewbaba44:
I don’t agree with most things the guy you quoted said ,but will you stop this your nonsense by saying zaidu won’t get into any epl team ? Stop this nonsense Oga

I am sure zaidu won’t get into Fulham also

Obodo Abana Osinwin eniyan

Actually he will not , The current left back is Antonee Robinson, in 2020 a £10 million transfer to AC Milan failed to Materialize on account of irregular heart rhythm on his medical. When he played for Wigan athletic in the Championship.

He is a USA international with 22+ caps, as you know USA is ranked 13 and Nigeria 32 by FIFA. In my opinion he is considerably better than Zaidu.

It's on that basis I say he is not good enough to get into the Fulham team.

COOL10:

I could decide to reply you in the tone you quoted me with but I choose not to as I have quite a reputation for sending people into depression using just my words. I named myself COOL for a reason. It serves as a pacifier.

The next time you quote me in an uncivilized manner, I will treat you like the unscrupulous brat you're trying to be.

So, Komekn, abeg carry your wahala dey go. I no get your time.

Since we are not speaking verbally then the tone you refer to is your perception. However, l don't know what kind of tone you refer to.

❓❓

Stormtrooper11:
Lol. So you rate championship over eredivisie?? Are you the EFL Public relations officer? Damn. Dessers has been better than all those guys you listed above for the past 3 seasons. Dessers is consistent.

Outside of Ajax , I rate the championship either on par or better.

andrewbaba44:
Douglas Luiz is not better than ndidi ,ndidi is valued at 60 million euros by transfermkt while Douglas luiz is valued at 35 million euros

Ndidi has always done better than Douglas luiz in the epl and your British media rates him ahead of Douglas ,google and co is there for you to make your research

Villa main priority is to pay Barca for coutinho and ndidi isn’t interested in moving there in any way ,Wijnaldum was outstanding for Newcastle as an AM and so do ndidi over the years as a DM

Anguissa is bigger than Fulham ,he is not a championship player ,he has done well for better teams like Napoli and Villarreal

Although Anguissa is supposedly a DM his offensive contribution is suspect. After 61 games not even one goal for Fulham. Even the assists are not outstanding.

However, he has a way of driving his team forward and therein is one of his main attributes. Fulham fans podcast doesn't rate him highly.

I did not say Ndidi is better than Douglas Luiz or vice versa. However, I did say he plays for Brazil and is getting a lot more transfer attention from clubs than Ndidi at the moment , WHY ❓

Ndidi did not get any offers direct to the club that Leicester rejected. On the other hand Aston Villa rejected a £30 million bid for Douglas Luiz.

Usually the market is an indicator of how well you are doing.

COOL10:
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You're wrong. Stats are very conclusive. If you're not gonna judge a player by his stats, what then are you gonna judge him by?

What you're meant to say is they do not assure or guarantee. They only predict based on past occurrences. That is football. Nothing is guaranteed in football. So saying Dessers didn't score in his first full start makes no sense especially when you see that he scored in his second full start.

I agree with you on your last paragraph. I think his coach sees him as a super sub for when goals are needed.

You have limited understanding ,less knowledge and no experience.

Statistics do not tell you the nature of the unit of measurement. In this regards not all assists, goals , blocks, interceptions, tackles are of the same quality.

This is why a report , sometimes very comprehensive is made about a player by both scouts and analysts which will include watching player's live.

Then the question will be asked can the players attributes and unique skill sets converged and be advantageous to the team. Every team and Manager will have his own requirements.

So my uninformed friend, statistics are just indicative not conclusive.

13large:
Although, I don’t want to dismiss onuachu goals at his club but even the most harsh critic will admit that Osimehn looks slightly above everyone on the super eagles shirt. Right now, the players that perform at a higher level than, their peers are

Osimehn ……..

Ndidi……..

Zaidu………

These 3 are above average or close to world class in my opinion. Although, dennis has been super eagles overall best player this season, I haven’t seen his performance for NIG

My goodness see analysis.

I doubt if Zaidu will get into any EPL club.

Ndidi has not been outstanding this season he is a very long way from world class.

Victor O, plays with fiery rage and Aggression I have not seen in any player. He is truly relentless in his pursuit of the goal. He is not the best technically speaking and his goal tally is not outstanding.

However, in a different team that plays him as a True no 9 , he will score goals a lot more I think. But he is till very far off world class.

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COOL10:
Looking at Dessers' goal per game ratio, his stats are not so impressive. But if you consider the number of minutes played, that's when you'll begin to have a change of mind.

Dessers has scored 6 goals in 20 games in the Eredivisie this season but he has played only 530 minutes and has come on as a substitute 18 times.

I'm no mathematician but 530/90 gives you approximately 6 games. This shows that technically speaking, he has about 6 goals in 6 games. That's pretty impressive. We've not even considered his ECL stats. No one can tell me that this guy doesn't deserve a spot in our squad even as a substitute.

There is a reason why he is on the Bench. Goals per minute ratios and games are indicative and not conclusive.

There is no mathematical formula that says if you get more game time you must score more goals. He once played 90 minutes and didn't score.

It seems his team see him as an impact substitute, who comes on when the game is in its last quarter. At a stage when players are getting tired and fatigued, this is the most probable and easier time to score. It is a well established fact that in the EPL more goals are scored in the second half than in the first.

andrewbaba44:
So ndidi has been poor this season and not outstanding but Gerard Aston Villa was readying a 50 million bid that ndidi and Leicester weren’t interested

Ademola lookman is leipzig Player on loan and not a Fulham player ,even anguissa ran away with another loan ,how many Fulham players where purchased

Lookman didn’t join a big club but Leicester city ,even leipzig is currently bigger and rated better than them .

How did Wijnaldum end up at Liverpool from a relegation Newcastle ,please explain that

Wijnaldum was simply outstanding in a very uninspiring Newcastle United. The rest is history.

Not too long ago many on on this forum were getting all orgasmic about how world class Ndidi was. Using statistics he had the highest number of tackles well at least too three, high number of blocks and interceptions. He was clearly outstanding in club and league.

However, fast forward and he is not in any of the charts of or so low down its inconsequential. Although statistics are indicative and not conclusive, we can see evidence of decline.

Aston Villa have Douglas Luiz as their current DM he has 9 caps for Brazil. Villa put in a bid of £25milion for Bissouma but it was declined. Villa considered Ndidi but did not put in any bid.

I don't know if Anguissa ran away or the feeling was that his performances lacked commensurate end product. And it was felt a loan spell will be more advantageous to both sides.

27Pushing30:
America went ALL the way to MID EAST in the name of National security

But Russia is being “vilified” protecting their own security interests

You can impose your imaginary security interests on a sovereign nation.

Russian invaded Afghanistan.

Kastonkastroll:
Probably a CIA undercover spy parading himself as a journalist!

You are very intelligent and wise we can all see him carrying and aiming a M107 Barrett sniper rifle.

I guess most CIA agents at age 55 like Pierre Zakrzewski, will be best suited to the battle front.

codemaniacs:
Currently Lukaku's case is not different...

Ihenacho is also a good finisher that doesn't start for his club often so we haven't been able to see his own consistency.

We currently have many Lukaku's ( in terms of strikers ) in the S.E so we need those that consistently perform for the S.E not for their clubs only.

You can't be a Lion at your club then when it's time to play for the S.E you turn to a Cat.

Lukaku started playing for Anderlecht at 16 and was a top Goal scorers since that time to date the only blip on his career is his current time with Chelsea.

KC is a flop since he has been at Leicester he has had one good season. In his entire career he has never been a top goal scorer in his league and club.

From 100 games for Belgium Lukaku has scored near 70 goals that is simply PHENOMENAL.

We ABSOLUTELY DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY near to the level of Lukaku.

You are talking balderdash, codswallop and nonsensical dross.

andrewbaba44:
Declan rice is English what do you expect ?

But kalvin Phillip team is fighting relegation ,you are still the same person that said Leicester are below top 10 and nobody will look at ndidi ,how come are people looking at kalvin Phillip that has been poor this season and hasn’t play much

Fulham got relegated but Ademola Lookman got taken up with Leicester, why

Kalvin Philips team has been poor but he as a player had not been, he is still an outstanding DM playing in a team with most players who have lost thier way.

Brighton are lower than Leicester but everybody wants
Bissouma , why

If it's not obvious to you Ndidi individually has not been outstanding this Season just like his team.

codemaniacs:
Hate is a strong word..

You must be an NFF staff or related to one of the Nigerian players to make such comments.

S.E doesn't play to the strengths of onuachu Awoniyi and Ihenacho so they are minus one when it comes to the S.E.

Go and look at all of Awoniyi 12 goals in the Bundesliga this season and compare them to Osimhen 7 goals.

And then think who will have greater impact in the SE.

hammer567:
IN WORST CASE SENARIO, RUSSIA WILL LEVEL KYIV AND AMERICA WILL ANNOUNCE MORE SANCTION.



HIGHEST!

That my learned friend is not war that is GENOCIDE.

There is an aspect of this war that Ukraine has not brought in , and we pray it does not. Ukraine has ICBM how many have nuclear warheads we simply don't know. It was assumed they handed them all back to Russia ❓❓❓

Let Russia be very cautious.

MajorOvakporaye:
Zelensky knows very well that the military power of his country does not and can never match that of Russia. He is also aware that NATO, the US and Britain under two idiots called Biden and Boris can't help him win any battle but foolish idiotic amala and ewedu overnight war analysts won't allow us to rest on this forum

The myth of the big powerful Russian Bear has been exposed. Russia as a modern day military power is an illusion.

Ukraine with its limited resources has been able to resist and overcome the Russian invasion. 3 weeks and Russian has not been able to capture one major city.

They have lost over 12,000 soldiers ,tiey have lost more soldiers in three weeks than they lost in decades of war with Afghanistan and in Chechenya.

Russian soldiers are deserting, surrendering and or refusing to carry out war crimes by carrying out killings and bombing of innocent civilians.

Russian air force planes and helicopters are getting shot down regularly. Over 6 very senior Generals have been killed in action.

Russia is now carrying out an indiscriminate bombing, scorched earth policy bombing cities into rubble snd killing civilians, who are the people they came to liberate ❓and from what it's a blatant WAR CRIME.

Russia has already lost this war that it cannot win.

The Russian economy is already in default they are now begging China for weapons see how the mighty have fallen. Even if China agrees how will they pay

codemaniacs:
Look at Lukaku's Chelsea form but he will still make the Belgian squad.

If Lukaku's was Nigerian you guys will say he shouldn't be called up due to his form .

Our top strikers Awoniyi and Sadiq couldn't score goals at the AFCON.. is it against Ghana they will now score.

Dessers must at least always make the S.E bench..

for the S.E, Sadiq, Awoniyi and Ihenacho are not it..

In fact Ihenacho hasn't done anything extra ordinary this season but he will get a call up..

Lukaku case is completely and entirely different.

Lukaku is a world class striker and has been exceptionally consistent for the past decade at the top of his game.

Last season second highest Goal scorer in Seria A .

Had been outstanding for Belgium consistently since his first cap.

He goes to Chelsea and it's apparent there is something going very wrong. The German players don't pass the ball to him Havertz the worst culprit. And Tuchel and him are not getting on at all.