₦airaland Forum

Coolliot:
Lol, some of us do actually know about defense matters, but some people won't let people that know talk, some people would rather want to pass imagination as reality and force it down people's throat.

Agreed without question

RiceProducers:
See how useless the SU25s and SU27s are?. I stopped arguing these issues because I found some people were just stuck on some old doctrines of warfare and the 'durability' of soviet equipment. Some guys would even have called the Ethiopian Airforce stronger than Nigeria's because of SU27s.

Hello Ethiopia, sensors are everything. Buy ISR gear. Look for supply lines to the rebels and bomb them. Use special forces creatively.
Converting information from as many sensors as possible into a broad picture of the battle space is the only way to do modern warfare.
You would be able to dodge the flanking moves and the feints. See where the enemy is hiding and determine what his objectives really are.

People in glass houses should not throw stones.

You don't win wars solely with your air force. But you can wiin a war without an Air force. Just like you don't claim and control territory, just with your air force.

Boko ,ISWAP , Bandits are hit and run characterised insurgents relying on gorilla tactics. They are fluid and don't have permanent locations.

The Tigray have clear and defined by territory.And they are not doing hit and run. They are seizing territory and and are about to enter the capital of Addis Ababa and seize it.

They have conventional heavy weaponry and have seized thousands of Ethiopian army prisoners of war.

Boko haram, ISWAP, Bandits, etc have light weaponry and we are STRUGGLING can't even say we are winning.

The Ethiopian army has over 400 T72 tanks and over 2000 HUMVEES. Do you think under the circumstances the NA would have done much better.

I DO NOT .

Roan77:
I tire for people here, they have nothing to contribute to improve the situations in the country, you will only see them crawl out of their caves when they see bad news against the military, why not vent your angers against the military on their pages or to the HQs?
They only found their voices here on nairaland.
Cowards.

You know we have our own cultural idiosyncrasies that pervade the upper echelons of of our societies irrespective of the sectors.

As a consequence even if you are to profer solutions and give constructive criticism that will improve and shift our current shambolic approach to the various insurgencies around the nation.

IT WILL BE REJECTED.

DubaiLandLord3:
Thank you o, US Army recruiter

Actually near 10 years of engagement with US servicemen from multiple bases in the UK like Upper Heyford, to multiple bases across Germany too many to count.

First hand information.

DubaiLandLord3:
Even if US Army dey kill civilians at least dem dey allow gays like us to join. Nigerian army too dey backward

Dont be decieved by the official and legal standing in US armed forces.

If you are a gay, shirt lifter, ass plunger,. NOBODY GO NO NEAR YOU .

And in the battlefield you are ON YOUR OWN. Nobody will be your keeper in the heat of battle that's essentially suicide.

So you better keep your deranged mental depravity to yourself or you Will be KIA and I don't mean the car.

oloriooko:
This Ighalo matter is a clear show of interference from the NFF in Rohr's technical team's work
Ighalo CANNOT offer anything better than what we presently have, it's not that we lack players in his position
How much did Ighalo offer Pinnick and his pin head NFF sef

That's ASSUMPTIVE.

Rohr has been the one clamouring for lghalo's inclusion.

But there are many groups lobbying for the players who will meet Thier self interest all in the NFF . There is a lot of politics.

Subzero047:
Average, he's lacking in confidence

But he was never an exceptional Left back in the general scheme of things.

Actually most of our players are average with a few who are above average.

I will not class any of our players as " world class" the potential of a few be to become YES but right now NO.

zuchyblink:
They two are not Ighalo,they have retired. Ighalo,not Salah,not Mane,not Mahrez is the current holder of AFCON golden boot,put some respect on his name.

Thank you and a very good morning � to you

Danielnino00:
You are late to get party with your propaganda again... This issue was addressed here long ago with many people mentioning you after Ashleigh Plumptree had her switch from England to Nigeria approved within a few months... The issue is clearly not the NFF but the players...

You make a series of conclusions with reference to a conversation but you say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of what was discussed.

I've said it before, l actually spoke to Ovie directly about this many year's ago when he was at Liverpool fc and enquired from Lookman.

I didn't get my information from the media or nairaland. I could add l spoke to people in both the English FA as well as the NFF and players agents.

They paint a very different picture from what your attempting to present with misinformation, disinformation and mislead people here.

The NFF IMO have simply not carried out due diligence INTENTIONALLY for reason known to themselves.

I gave the example of Zaha a much more controversial application to change allegiance which was laced with animosity. That not withstanding the application was concluded in the affirmative in less than 4 weeks.

You are clutching at straws, FIFA processes are very clear.

MetalJigsaw:
AFCON 2022: Rohr hints at inclusion of Lookman and Ejaria in Super Eagles team
pulse.ng
Ademola Lookman and Ovie Ejaria may be included in the Super Eagles squad for the 2022 Africa Cup of Nations.

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The Super Eagles of Nigeria may soon get some reinforcements in attack with the introduction of Leicester City's Lookman and Reading's Ejaria.

Super Eagles boss Gernot Rohr is already looking beyond the ongoing World Cup qualifying series and ahead to the difficult task of putting together a team for the 2022 AFCON, which will take place in Cameroon.

In an interview with Elegbete TV, the German manager revealed some new faces may be part of the team to Cameroon, despite not participating in AFCON Qualification.

Rohr hinted that midfielder Ejaria and winger Lookman have a chance of being included in the final team to the 2022 AFCON.

According to the 68-year-old, both Ejaria and Lookman, who have represented England at youth level, have expressed their desire to switch international allegiance.

The Nigeria Football Federation, led by Amaju Pinnick are working on it, and Rohr expects a resolution as soon as possible.

When Nigeria is concerned , some things just defy rational.

Does it take three years to process a change of allegiance with FIFA .

It took Wilfred Zaha a very high profile player , who had already played for England senior national team. A mere 3 weeks plus to complete his change of allegiance with FIFA. This was with objections from the English side and huge amounts of negative press.

How long did it take Declan Rice to move from Ireland to England.

But not Nigeria, and some will try to justify the unjustifiable, it's CRASS INCOMPETENCE and possibly the issue's of Uncle Egunje.

Both of these players presented themselves Lookman and Ovie to play for Nigerian U17. But were somehow classed as not good enough hmmm Why

ArabicBerber:
In the meantime while some special individuals are pretending to have lives traveling & preaching Doom for West Africa becuase some ashy anorexic terrorist are still limping around Lake Chad Tigray rebels have took the Kombolcha. A key town a mere 378 Km(7 1/2 hour) drive from the national capital Addis Ababa killing over 100+ youths and an unknown number of elders during the steamroll.

At this rate some of us up North want have to worry about GERD at all. East Africa or at least the Horn just might collapse. I don't appreciate the Dam fiasco but I pray it never comes to that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/10/31/ethiopian-forces-fight-to-retake-strategic-city-as-rebels-advance

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.trtworld.com/africa/ethiopia-tigray-rebels-kill-scores-of-youths-in-kombolcha-town-51249/amp

Those in glass houses should not throw stones.

When Ethiopia was unleashing genocide, rape and denying humanitarian aid to the Tigray people and people were dying like flies.

Ethiopia refused to be reasonable and solve the issues by with dialogue.

They pushed these people into a desperate corner were they had one choice FIGHT or DIE against all odds they have fought and now the tables are turning.

Ethiopia is NOW facing a very real existential threat.

MetalJigsaw:
Is Ighalo in same league as these?

Are any of our current strikers on the same LEVEL as any of these forward players ❓

AFCON 2022

Is not too far away, will it take place in January disrupting the football calendar of the European leagues.

And in Cameroon struggling to contain its own bloody existential threat from within and outside. Will it be safe and politically wise to hold it there.

By the way , I noticed that the best league currently in in in the world is oh yes the EPL

nelszx:
No country currently has a better strike force than what we possess currently . But it's a retired player we're bringing back when clearly there wasn't a deficiency in that department.

You are as annoying as Rohr himself. Experience this, experience that you won't allow us hear anything else.

I am bewildered by the assertion you have given.

Let me ask do you mean in the world or just in Africa and even then it's still over stated.

Or better still substantiate your position in with facts and not just opinion birthed from yourself in and see others.

JOSCOFELIX:
They was an ambush on our men early hour of today by iswap the attack was repel. I watch iswap propaganda and I discovered some problems which the military need to work on and discovered a lot of lies. More of the video just show shooting and attack which we did not see who they where attacking. Some involved blasting of some equipment. And some show our 6x6 apc seize in mainko attack. The last part show iswap showing us the over 200 men and 23caanon weapon . brought from Libya most of those fighter are dead. Including the reconiss vehicle seize from iswap early this year. The military high command should not deploy solider to a location which repelling and attack is heard deploying solider in he middle of Forest is death sentence with situation awareness. Commander of battlion should be giving necessary background training on technical withdraw do not withdraw when you equipment are good it increase the armor of you enemy . If the military equipment is bad the military should work on recovering bad and damage vehicle from the battlefield. . Special operations should increase in lake Chad region down to Niger and Chad republic. Niger republic is the main problem iswap biggest base is station toward that country

I find it troubling and even bewildering.

Any wheeled or tracked vehicle that the enemy somehow ,( should NEVER HAPPEN) acquires . It immediately becomes a Trojan horse.

Hidden communication equipment will give you precise location movement and spatial positions of the enemy.

At the right time with precision guided munitions you obliterate the entire Area and those around it. Meanwhile you have gathered very valuable intel.

That's very basic stuff , it's not overly complicated.

Roan77:
That's the effects of Super Tucano, and some low life people here who think they know more better than the military hierarchy, called it over hyped turbo prop aircraft, not worth the money spent on it, run away from such people, don't argue or waste your time with them.

For the one that knows not, he thinks as he is so EVERYBODY ELSE is. He is mystified by half baked assumed knowledgeable armed forces officers. Essentially because HE KNOWS NOTHING and cannot say NOTHING to those who no LITTLE.

I think the phenomenon is cultural , you assume your Lecturer is all knowing and you know NOTHING and therefore when you get taught rubbish you think it's TRUE.

But then many don't bother to know by reading, studying engaging in productive interactions that will increase their knowledge and capacity by association. NO they remain in the Bliss of lgnorance.

Years ago I was at doing an MSc at a Russell group university, Business School.

In the Lecture theatre my Professor he was giving a lecture and I felt his position and view point was wrong. l voiced out my substantiated opinion, he promptly stepped down from the podium and asked me to take the Lecture which l did. Saying you seem to know more than me on this occasion.

Not long after I was offered a PhD scholarship and a lectureship at the university.

The point I am making is simple , if you lack knowledge get some and don't assume someone is ALL KNOWING and you know NOTHING.

DubaiLandLord1:
The university’s spokesman, Habib Yakoob, confirmed the development, saying the victims are about six in number.

Gunmen on Tuesday morning struck at the staff quarters of the University of Abuja (UNIABUJA) and abducted a professor of Economics, Obansa Joseph, two of his children, among others.

A source and resident of the quarters, who pleaded anonymity, the gunmen invaded the senior staff quarters at Giri in Gwagwalada Area Council of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT) at 1 a.m on Tuesday and operated for about an hour.

The names of the professor’s two children who were also abducted could not be confirmed as of the time of filing this report.

PREMIUM TIMES gathered that the other victims included those who were simply recognised by the source as “Barrister John, Fidelis and Mallam Sambo.”

The university’s spokesman, Habib Yakoob, confirmed the development, saying the victims are about six in number.

“Yes, I just confirmed that the information is true. Apart from the professor and his children, a non-academic staffer was also involved. They are about six victims,” Mr Yakoob said.

He, however, added that security operatives have been mobilised to secure their freedom.

“They are on their trail,” the spokesman said on the phone.

The victim, Mr Obansa, is described as a “distinguished economist of repute”.

He is currently a sitting Professor of Economics at the university and a Visiting Professor of Economics at Veritas University, also in Abuja.

Mr Obansa is an alumnus of University of Abuja and University of Lagos, whose research interest includes Health Economics and Quantitative Economic Analysis.

He has published extensively in reputable national and international journals and has served in several management and Administrative capacities within the University of Abuja.

As of the time of filing this report, the FCT Police spokesperson, Josephine Adeh, had yet to respond to phone enquiries concerning the attack.

Virtually all parts of the country is currently witnessing worsening insecurity and spike in crimes as security operatives battle to halt the surge.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/492914-just-in-gunmen-invade-uniabuja-staff-quarters-abduct-professor-children-others.html

Is there anybody here that did not see this coming.

The Bandits ( refused to be called terrorists) are now right in Abuja.

Just waiting to hear that they have kidnapped the senate President.

Stormtrooper11:
Different strokes for different folks!. The VT4 is the best option for us. It is a 3.5 generation tank. Not your regular 3rd generation tank.

Okay. So you got better battlefield understanding
Langweilig

Let me use a simplistic analogy.

I need to transport 1000 people from Lagos to Ikang in Cross River state . The road is deplorable muddy and flooded in many sections.

A 4x4 is absolutely essential, l then buy the best off-roade vehicle A Range Rover Autobiography supercharged for over $145,000 @, but just one vehicle.

Or I could go out there and buy 20 used 2010 onwards Chevrolet Suburban LTZ 4x4 each able to carry 8 passenger in comfort.

Which one best meets the required need and is more effective in solving the problem.

The RR is better and much more comfortable and even better off road, but it’s not best value and best use of limited resources.

How big are our problems in the NE , how big is the land mass of the NE bigger than some countries. And how many VT4 Chinese ( questionable quality and reliability) MBT’s did we buy Not more than 25 if that .How much do they cost $4 million or thereabouts. That my friend is a drop of water in the ocean essentially.

Am I going up against other MBT’s my main threat is IED’s , HMG mounted Technicals and Rpg7. That is what I am trying to mitigate against. Therefore I should create the infrastructure to envelop, enclose and contain my threats.

You can pick up refurbished with thermal imaging target acquisition T72 tanks from as low as $100K or as high as $400K for some of the Ukruainian models.

But we can retrofit our ourselves it’s not rocket science.That means one VT4 gets us 20 T72 ‘s and 20 gets us 400 T72’s

Is there anybody who thinks if we had 400 T72 MBT tanks that this war would not be close to over, with proper battle field strategy .

That’s my rational based on efficacy and best use of resources for greatest impact. Below a YouTube video about the T72 in case some gave forgotten what it can do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snim2zjhx8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gK2h3RCh28

Hoverbird:
You people will always find a way to defend nonsense. How many time have you heard that US soldiers commit crimes against their own citizens? We need alot of reorientation in this country.

Thank you.

Do you think a General in the US Army will decide to detain a whole family because they insulted or disrespected his wife.

And that detention will come with torture you could easily be illegally detained in a Nigerian army barracks for months. On the basis of order from above.

A young lady was enslaved for months on end by be the police in their barracks after being abducted by the police.

We are in a lawless country and our law enforcement personnel are LAWLESS TOO. Our leader's believe they are above the law and have no regard for " The Rule of Law.

Look at Sowore since August 2019 the DSS is still investigating while he is literally held in prison of sorts

You cannot put Garri in the pot and expect it to change to Jollof rice with chicken.

Please see let's not be foolishly DELUSIONAL.

Kog45:
Taiwo Awoniyi will get his chance again which am very sure.

The last call up was a surprise to him and playing against CAR was as a result of Onuachu injury but in training he was one of the best performers.

Awoniyi playing for Germany,rule it out,Awoniyi is a thorough bred Naija boy that grew up in Agbo Oba area in Ilorin and love naija like kilode.

Leave that ASSUMPTIVE delusion for bin.

Any Nigerian where " money matter is concerned". Whether they were born in Ajegunle or Banana island.

All or at least 90% will " JAKPA " and forget this country.

Napoleon55:
In all honesty,
did u think rohr is doing d right by sacrifiicing inform awoniyi in bundesliga's slot in d team for ighalo's experience in arabian league?

First of all your assertion is ASSUMPTIVE .

To say Awoniyi's exclusion is anchored on Ighalo inclusion is not an established fact.

Ighalo has been a consistent and continuous performer over time. He is still an outstanding performer in this obscure " get rich quick" questionable quality Arab league.

People practice blatant double standard and favouritism here without be restraint.

Awoniyi is doing excpetionally well in the HERE and NOW but has not been consistent over the year's. Nonetheless, on current form he should ABSOLUTELY be invited.

On the other hand look at the form of KC he has scored one goal all season. Prior to last season where he literally woke up from the dead he has been abysmal.

Some will no doubt argue that he has done well in the SE. when called.

My view is how much better can Awoniyi perform if he is given the same opportunity as well as Ighalo.

Victor first outing at the AFCON was abysmal but his club form got him back in. Now he has opportunity, is he the best striker in the SE , that's a never ending debate.

AFCON can be very physical and Awoniyi and Ighalo have those attributes.

Philosopher1979:
This is the problem. At national team level there are better players. Club form does not transform to the national team every time. This is because if style of play. Onuachu fits a particular style of play we don't have in the national team and Simon switches off when playing for us.
We need players who play well for us and not just their club. They are different things. Some players simply don't fit into certain formations or play well in certain teams and Moses Simon and onuachu don't fit into our teams right now.
Look, if you study maurinho and guardiola well, they only go for players that fits into their style of play and not necessarily the best players. Club form is good but overrated. Samuel kalu seems to fit into our national team than Moses simon. Don't get carried away with club form. Club form only matters if you can translate it into the national team

How good a player is open to never ending debate.

But in selecting the best players, we should still be giving opportunity to those who are deserving in the HERE and NOW.

Your club form gets you noticed and that is the basis for national team selection. Can you transfer your club form to the national team is the next challenge.

Onuachu has been outstanding in the Belgium league 9 goals from 8 games is not to be laughed at. Yes the league is not the most competitive, 13th in Europe is not great.

Why has he not been able to use his obvious attributes. Very simple most of our wing backs and wingers simply cannot cross the ball to save their lives.

The problem is not Onuachu but the team not playing to his strengths.

jl115:
Nigeria just isn't as good at hiding its injustices like the US for example

Agreed without question.

But then you will never see US Army personnel carrying out genocide in broad daylight and or beating up defenceless citizens for their evening entertainment.

Hoverbird:
The Nigerian army have a history of poor human rights record it didn't start today, this has been the case since the 60's it is not a matter of a few individuals this is almost like a policy. Similar scenario happened in a village at Aba were Nigerian Soldiers went house to house butchering unarmed civilians with matchete.
I won't be surprised if they deny it and some people here will shamelessly defend them.

I will be very surprised by it they admit to it.

They are ALWAYS GOING TO DENY IT.

If soldiers can be caught on live TV shooting at nunarmed peaceful defenceless protestors and then DENY IT.

Is there anything they are not capable of denying.

bidexiii:
Pictures of nigerian special forces training in pakistan:

Whaaaten Pakistan wan teach us.

Chei Chei cheap article deh spoil belle.

bidexiii:
Pictures of NA commandos

What's the point of giving soldiers supposed " specialist training" at probably great expense. Then issue them with antiquated AK47 without any optic sights or laser and or grenade launchers.

It's like sending someone to Ferrari racing car driver school, then after passing out you isuue them with a Toyota Corolla.

That's just LUDICROUS.

kabe1:
Like I told you earlier, no amount of determination would win you are war.

Wars are won through strategy, tactics and the right equipment.

Tanks have a very low rate of fire when compared to IFVs.

Tanks require Infantry protection.

Tank ammunitions are expensive when compared to IFVs

Tank maintenance is not flexible like an IFV.

Tanks are generally more expensive to deploy.

Tanks are slower, consume more diesel and cannot cover the distance an IFV would cover.

Tanks require auxiliary vehicles to deploy them to the front lines.

Tanks are not recon vehicles as they don't have the profile or speed or maneuverability to perform reconnaissance missions.

Tanks cost 4 times the IFV.

No l disagree.

Not too long ago I put out a CHALLENGE to put an ALTERNATIVE substantive approach to best use of resources and how l would have best used just the $600 million wasted on those over hyped turbo props A29.

Everyone went silent apart from one or two .

Not too long ago a Vickers MK3 tank was abandoned and left for insurgents to destroy in the volatile NE.

A Vickers MK3 with its day and night sights and updated FIRE control system ,which we have. Should be able to take out 10 technicals in 5 minutes .

It's armour will not be penetrates by Rpg7's and or

kabe1:
Nigeria lacks money to properly fund our military. It costs billions of dollars to procure equipment buy spares and train soldiers.

Nigerian lacks money and also lacks monetary discipline.

Nigerian procurement is blinded by the quest for sharp deals as opposed to be the best value approach and efficacy in procurement.

Stormtrooper11:
Honestly, whoever suggested the Army to buy VT 4 tanks, did the right thing. The VT4 is the perfect MBT for the Nigerian army. Unless we want, a k2 panther or leopard 2 tanks, which I don't think we can get.
The VT4 MBT should be purchased in more quantities, upgraded and start a manufacturing plant here in Nigeria. We need to leverage on our relationship with Norinco.

Whoever made the suggestion to but the VT4 is simply put incompetent parochial thinking blind Bat.

No strategic understanding of holistic battlefield management.

Stormtrooper11:
Exactly. The fv101, fv103 and fv107 are already good platforms if utilized appropriately and properly.
For people clamouring for IFVs, i tell you what, those IFVs ain't gonna win you this war in no time. That's a misperception of things on ground. We got a whole lotta Vickers mk. 3 MBTs and T 55s prior to the purchase of T 72m1 and VT4 tanks. Those older MBTs would've ended this war quickly if they were utilized appropriately. We all saw what Late. Lt-Col Abu Ali did with the 272 tank battalion's T 72s. It takes determination and commitment to the cause, to win a war of attrition.

Ignorance is bliss.

You are totally and completely out of your depth and your anylsis is anchored on thin air.

You may find this incredulous but one of the first military vehicles I went into in the British army was these very variants you are talking about.

That was way more than two decades ago.

They are ABSOLUTELY NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE and have been obsolete for decade's by most modern armies.

Whyem15:
Would it make any sense for the navy to deploy to the location after knowing that the Russians were closer to the scene? The Russians could have gotten the distress signal first and might have communicated their readiness to help with naval HQ though that isn't necessary so far the Nigerian navy was aware of their presence in Nigeria's EEZ. It could have also been that it was NN that got the information first and knowing there is a naval vessel close to the scene inform the Russians and solicit for their help. There are videos and pictures of the NN doing something similar on this thread. NN has also rescued vessels outside of Nigeria's EEZ several times.

You completely digressed.

I responded to the false misinformation that the rescue did not take place within Nigerian territorial waters, very simple and concise.

You have created a series of questions and retorts that have absolute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the subject l addressed.

BUT WHY