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TheSuperNerd:
*Yawns* As always, wanting to waste the time of the court.... Always asking for evidence when it is littered all over and will still deny shamelessly with ever evasive sesquipedalianic Grammer even when shown.

When I ask you to show same, you refuse to do so. You think na me you wan give assignment abi... Nonsense

Bia Nwokem... Roll over and dont waste my time.... In short.... **Changes the channel**

I normally ignore your misguided Superdelusuional rantings.

But thought Christmas is coming let's be benevolent.

But you can't even engage in clean concise discussion based on a substantive approach. Every time you HIDE and EVADE.

Them you start your abuse and noise making.

safarigirl:
stop embarrassing yourself on the internet.

As far as the here and now is concerned, Iheanacho is inform. It was still yout that boldly claimed to us here, that a player is only as good as his last game. Based on Iheanacho's last game, any neutral person will agree he is truly in form, but since you stink of prejudice and emotive bias you no go gree, then you are here claiming you aren't a hater.

You are now rounding up all his games over the last five years to defend your bias, look at how you are making a fool of yourself and contradicting your own words. Come and give me a list of players that have been in form five years in a row. Going by this your useless analysis, even your Tammy Abraham is not in form, after all, not so long ago, he was a massive flop in EPL.

You should take an entire bottle of those Bitterness pills you earlier recommended.

Your bitter deep seated rancour has completely befuddled your mind.

Many moons ago you threw vitriolic rhetoric and unrestricted abuse towards Tega. Your words were he would never make it in the EPL. He is not good enough bla bla and all sorts irrelevant Balderdash.

He does not even know you but you got so heated with your opinion and allowed your whole being to be carried away on an emotive roller coaster of hatred and dislike. It's incomprehensible why. I can not understand it.

Now he is essentially one of the best strikers in the world and it's too much for you to swallow.

Tega was the second highest goal scorer in Swansea with 5 goals in the EPL Jordan Ayew was the first with 7. The team was in free fall they had about 8 managers over 4/5 seasons confused and no direction in the club.

He promptly went to Villa and tore up the Championship again. I can say the rest is now history he is now numero one at Chelsea. And the world is his oyster.

My view is very simple you don't create IN- FORM from two games in the EPL or any other league for that matter.

Particularly when he has been essentially woeful for the past two seasons in the EPL.

If after 10 games if he has kept up his current trajectory you can say he has got some form or is striker IN- FORM.

I hope he does well because he seems to have improved on many fronts. The multiple handicaps are being addressed and Leicester have been exceptionally patient not many clubs will give any player that amount of time.


Nigerian Players with consistent form for over 10 years, OBAGOAL,YAK, YEKINI, IKPEBA, FINIDI, .

That's what we mean by consistent form. But you don't understand that.

andrewbaba44:
I hope west brom gain promotion to the epl

Them and leads united are so consistent

Semi ajayi has done so well, if he continues like this he should be making championship team of the season.

It's too early to say the Championship is a hard grueling marathon not a sprint.

I have seen teams at the top in January by April / May they were out if the players offs. Examples are Leeds and Derby County.

Nonetheless, of all the teams the best equipped in my opinion for this long haul is WBA. They have strength indepth and the best squad with quality players with EPL pedigree.

But in football anything can happen.

TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind Komekn. Always twisting and turning with those two statements. Uses it to defend the players he love with total blind bias (players under the English born banner) and drops it when it also applies beautifully to certain players not under the umbrella of "English born".

Since he uses these standard statements of his in an emotively biased way which punctures/defeats his own arguments in several ways, then it is no use paying her to such statements made under an air of pseudo-intellectual mumblings.

It is null and void.

My proposition remains without contradiction.

Now name the players according to you that I have put aside that my never ending proposition for . And as such l am being biased prejudiced and unbalanced with negative deductions towards Nigerian home grown and born players.

I challenge you no vitriolic rhetoric and abuse just name them. If you make a claim and or allegation I'm not even asking you to substantiate. Just name them very simple.

I will remind you before you misrepresent as you often do.

It's better to be a Lion in a lower league and club than an anonymous mouse in a top club and league.

BARAJ92:
This is not about hatred, once Iheanacho start playing regularly and scoring goals, surely. I will start praising him.

Me too.

Putting matters in context this is players who had not scored in the EPL for over a year.

Add to that he has played 50 plus games in the EPL for Leicester and scored if l remember correctly 5 goals add these two and it's 7 goals in three seasons and 50+ plus games.

Yes he is improving but he has a long way to go before we call him an IN- FORM striker and or forward player.

But of course it will be construed as blind prejudice and negative bias and therefore HATRED by quite a good number of contributors here.

zayyadidris:
what about your ideology on lion in lower league?

Go back to the context of the discourse we are comparing national team quality players between Senegal and Nigeria at least on paper.

Keeping with the theme of top quality l used the top 5 leagues in Europe as a bench mark.

So in this regard Ajayi is not in the running for now.

jargooflife912:
Charles is the most tribalist on this thread I know what I'm saying

I said Semi Ajayi is Nigeria best defender this was his reply

I will add other comments about your post to say that you should look before you leap

Or better still think we'll before you type your just jumping on a bandwagon train that you don't know where it started from and where it's going.

Joebie:
Komekn , oya take that

This na person were go school.

Suppose know say a word has meaning from the words and subject surrounding it in other words context.

But unfortunately she doesn't just argument without substance or rational.

Provoker:
semi ajayi has scored more goals than salif sane as a CB this season

Go back and look at core subject which country has the most IN-FORM players which in itself alludes to top quality outstanding consistent performing players.

Then the bench mark from which the context of this discourse emanates from which s the top 5 leagues in Europe.

As good as Ajayi is he is in the Championship most probable he will be in the EPL next season. Until then he is not in the equation.

If we are to look at French league two then we are literally talking 75 Senegalese players at least, they are too many to count.

That's the context.

Olulong:
You just listed names without even checking thier stats. The Keita Balde you claimed none of our wingers come close to has been outscored this season by Moses Simon and has the same number of goals has Chukwueze. Infact on current form Sarr wouldn't make Super Eagles squad. Fact!!!

The Same Salif Sane you claim to be in better form than our defenders haven't played in the last 4 games for his club because he's injured. It's obvious you don't watch any other thing than English Leagues.

Then your baised self claim to be objective yet you intentionally left out Josh Maja who is 2 goals behind Niang when you screenshoted Ligue one top scorers.

First of all don't be presumption led without any substance.

Why are players top world class players because they are consistent on top of the game from season to season. Essentially without any drop in quality, that's extremely difficult.

That's why Ronaldo, Suarez, Mane, Messi, Kane Lukaku, Van Dyke, Ramos, etc are world class players. So if they get injured we don't assume they have lost form.

Go back and look at Keita's pedigree and consistency at such a young age.

Go back and look at Salif consistency over the last few seasons in the Bundesliga .He has not lost ability after 5 games, just not played because of injury that's a ludicrous an ill-judged deduction you are making about him. Why to score points, l have no idea.

Then look at the nonsensical proposition you make with zero substance. That l am biased you clearly jumped on the prejudiced band wagon without even thinking.

When looking at top goal scorer that doesn't include everyone who has scored a goal. My benchmark is usually the top 10 goal scorers.

There are about twenty places before you get to players with 5 goals where Maja is indeed there are over 11 players with a 5 goals tally. It's simply not outstanding. That's your opinion of bias, if you have courage you should apologise.

If anything I could be accused of bias against Senegal. Do you know that there are over 50 players showing allegiance to Senegal in the French league one alone. I doubt if there is any team in French league one without a Senegalese origin player. Because the lower you go in the goal charts the more Senegalese players you are likely to see.

I could have talked about 20 year old Boubacar Kamara the claimed next Thiago. That may likely play for Senegal wanted by a plethora of EPL club to show the strength in depth that Senegal have but l didn't.

Before I forget Ismaila Sarr is a winger and his goals tally is not expected to be on the same as a striker. Nonetheless, you didn't do your homework. If you did you would have known he was injured from Afcon. He has been struggling to get fit for the intensity and rigours of the EPL.

He has just recently played 3 games in the EPL and scored one goal as well as has had a big impact for Watford in just three games. But he is far from being IN-FORM certainly not from three games.

Finally, I digress somewhat, what I find shocking is there may be more Senegalese players in the EPL than Nigerian. That's simply not right considering our colonial past with England.

You and many others here don't understand the meaning as elementary as it is of biased.

Odunayaw:
That shameless man will still come and try to wriggle his dirty self out of this. Y'all try o with putting up with him

Your still very bitter you better get some medication before it overcomes you.

Odunayaw:
When someone tries to redefine what IN FORM means and brings in Ismaila Sarr into that discussion, shouldn't y'all be wary of that fellow?

I don't know about y'all but I so much loathe seeing komekn's long fib infested posts!

Well your going to have too seek medical attention because your going to get very bitter and poisoned from reading them.

But you seem addicted and cant help yourself.

safarigirl:
coming from the King of Delusion, this is quite the compliment.

For someone who[b] touted Sarr as one of the Senegalese players in form, [/b] you have some guts referring to yourself as truthful

At what stage did I say Ismaila Sarr is IN-FORM. I could call you a liar.

I want to presume as is usual with you you don't pay attention to detail and the specific of the diction used. I am giving you the benefit of doubt that you misconstrued my comments.

Below the screen shots of my post to remind you.

The subject became Senegal players in general not IN-FORM players. I in error didn't spell Niang correctly he plays in the French league. And l placed him along side Ismaila Sarr as an insight into the depth of squad and players available to Senegal.

Ismaila Sarr is not by any stretch of the imagination a player IN-FORM. He is winger who has been struggling in Watford who also are struggling to catch his last season form where he scored 8 goals in the French league and was a key player for Senegal.

So once again who is the one being UNTRUTHFUL.

andrewbaba44:
Seen it

Our players are in good form than the senegalese

But i dont think our players are more in good form than other Africans sha

This is at the heart of the matter and the cause of so much unnecessary contention.

The term IN- FORM.

It's being used loosely and with ambiguity and without any structure or unit of measurement.

What do you define IN-FORM to be ❓

From my perspective IN- FORM is in reference to consistent performance over a period. Whether thar performance is Outstanding and top quality in comparison is also linked to the term IN-FORM. Therefore context comes into it as well.

We then consider matters in comparison, context and rational even reasonable.

Is it therefore logical in the context of football to say after a player has played 3/4 games he is now in an in form player.

Most leagues across Europe well at least the top five will by now have played on average 15/16 games.

From those 15/16 games when a player has been perfoming with a consistent curve of performance by aggregate. We can then make an informed decision on how well the player has done i.e. above average, very good, excellent, etc and then say he is IN-FORM.

But it seems what many are saying here is that by just playing in a game you are IN-FORM irrespective of your performance.

For example Ndidi, Osimhen are the first choice players for thier teams and in comparison to thier league which is a top 5 league in Europe have been consistently delivering quality top performances playing almost all games in thier leagues. And are therefore IN-FORM.

How many other Nigerian players can we say this of in the top 5 leagues in Europe. Maybe Aina, Iwobi and Chukwueze who else❓

Now look at the Senegalese players two among the top goal scorer in the French league. One playing for PSG. Another considered the best defender in the world transfer speculation hitting £100 million and of course Mane. Then Salif Sane scored two goals as a CB this season in the Bundesliga.

So which national team has more top quality consistent outstanding players that's what the term IN-FORM clearly implies.

? ❓

Subzero047:
Iheanacho scored 14 goals for Man city

3 historical seasons ago, so what exactly is your point and relevance to the subject. ❓

BARAJ92:
lol, it is very funny, a player that is benched is in form, A player that has only started a game is in form apart from Osimhen, none of our top strikers are in form

Lol

Welcome to the fanatical delusional support for players based not on substantive facts, figures and statistics.

Nobody wants to hear these basic truths.

And anybody who disagrees is a HATER.

charlesemeka85:
i have never and will never insult azubuike okechukwu but will continue to berate him until he proves me wrong. even if i dey sleep you wake me up to seek my opinion on how good zubby my response will be "HE IS HOT TRASH"

he needs to prove me wrong so that i will swallow my words in shame

Saying a player is not perfoming and us not good enough is not an act of HATRED.

However, that's how quite a lot of people see it here.

And then they go into the gutter with abuse.

My advice is you do not have to descend into the gutter with them. Still be civil and the gentleman you are.

safarigirl:
leave komekn to keep clowning himself and mentioning players that are still not cutting up to ours.

Aside Mane and Ziyech this season, Osimhen is the highest performing African player, then we can have the likes of Ndidi, Mahrez and Gueye. Stats by stats, I want to see the proof that Senegalese players are in better form than ours. And when I say players, I mean the ones actually on the team, not a bunch of prospects.

No be by plenty English.

The subject is Senegal national team in comparison too the Nigerian team.

The word in form is indicative of performance levels and essentially which players are better. I have used the top five league as the benchmark.

Keita Baldé do we have any winger close to him because better is not part of the equation.

Our best performing player Victor is on par with Habib. It would be unfair to compare him to Mane that's not in discussion.

Defensively can any of our defenders be compared to Koulibaly answer NO. Then can with objectivity conclusively say our defenders better than Salif at Schalke 04, his consistency tells the story. You may debate.

Midfield Gueye and Ndidi are to me on par it's a question of preference who you think is better.

You would notice there are two Senegalese players among the top goal scorer in the French league.

Ismaila Sarr is a winger who plays for Watford outstanding in the French league last season with 8 goals. Scored one goal in the EPL. Nonetheless, which of our wingers is clearly better. Open to debate by preference.

My view that on paper Senegal has more quality in depth than we do.If you want to add the multiple options they have just from the French league one alone it's probably and potentially about 50 active players at least who are cutting it.

However, winning a competitive game of football against Senegal it's not so simple, we could win albeit it unlikely.


Finally, who is the clown here look at the deductions you have made. Must you have to insult and be derogatory.

Watching Chelsea Vs Lille.

Stylish cheeky goal by Tega.

andrewbaba44:
Victor have scored twice in the champions league

That's right my error.

Buy my proposition remains the same HAALAND is rated higher because he has scored so many goals in the Champions league. And being so young too I guess.

andrewbaba44:
Lol your dissing no be here sha

But you said the facts thou

Meanwhile moussa wague is in action against inter right now

Saying things as they are is not dissing.

I am sure if you were to do the research you will probably have at least 50 players of Senegalese origin in the just the French league.

That's a HUGE POOL to fish from.

Olulong:
Lies as usual
Ismailla Sarr has one goal this season and Kelechi has two. So Kelechi as been better this season. Also Okereke has more goals than Mbaye Diagne who doesn't start for Club Brugge most of the time. Just stick to the Jam Body football you claim to know about

What are the LIES ❓

I mentioned several players not just Ismaila to see how balanced some of you would be. But my expectations were too high it seems.

So why don't you talk about.

Mane, Koulibaly, Gueye, Habib, Kouyate and so many others.

Or the Everton players Niasse 30 games and 8 goals in the EPL. But who is far from first choice in the Senegalese team.

Picking out individual players who you consider weak. Ismaila Sarr is a winger that scored 8 goals in the French league last season. He has played on the wing for Watford and Striker in a 4-4-2.

But his main position is the wing.

You just want to argue for no reason beyond argument sake.

The core issue is very simple, " Senegal has far more quality players on paper than we do, very simple.

That doesn't mean we can not beat them just that it is unlikely.

ChrisKels:
Erling Braut Haaland is good but not better than Osimhen. The reason for his goal haul is simply bkus he plays for a better team, he would struggle to get as many goals playing alongside Ikone, Bamba and co. No young striker posseses Osimhen's innate ruggedity. Haaland doesn't have Osimhen's workrate, off the ball.



BTW, Mwepu is great baller

We have seen players hyped but it becomes easier when they perform.

The thing that really helps in your rating if you are not in a top club. Is if you can score goals in the Champions league.

In this regard Victor fails because he has scored once in th Champions league. Please remind me how many Haaland has scored.

Nonetheless, l think Victor is much faster and with hungry determined aggressive streak.

maidaboi:
so kc has more goals than him?

Yes

maidaboi:
if you are to pick between Eze and ovie right now who will you pick for Super Eagles?

It's difficult if you want offensive play and a playmaker. Eze is your man.

However, if you want a complete midfielder with a huge work rate, prepared to defend and at the same time attack then Ovie.

Finally, it's still difficult because Reading is struggling and not as attack minded as QPR. What l am saying it's not so simplistic.

I would rather have the two of them in SE we need strength in depth.

Subzero047:
Ismaily Sarr has one goal this season

I guess he's struggling in Watford and in the EPL.

Not good enough because it seems hwes playing more like a striker now. But don't forget he's a winger primarily and was quite impressive on the wings in French league last season.

However, he has still been very influential for the Senegalese team.

safarigirl:
I don't watch club football, so, I mentioned the first two that came to my mind(the most mentioned here). But yes, koulibaly too.

So you leaped before you looked, you then denigrated my comments that l have limited knowledge that's derisory.

How then do you from a position of zero knowledge then dismiss my comments.

Can l conclude that of its not objective it's emotive and negative sentiment.

You can educate yourself with my comments to Andrewbaba44.

That's why l concluded you must miss me so much you just couldn't resist the temptation to comment. Even if it doesn't make sense.

Nonetheless, it's all comedy to me. LOL

andrewbaba44:
No dear

You call mane and Gueye because they play for big teams ,you didn’t even call koulibally

If I am to go by your style then no naija player will be worth to be mentioned because none of players are playing for teams in the caliber of psg or Liverpool

Sometimes there are some argument that expose people complete lack of knowledge.

Koulibaly is on the way to becoming the most expensive defender in football history currently. He is arguably the best CB in the world.

And someone is saying l dont know anything about African football.

Essentially Senegal have far more players playing in the top 5 leagues of Europe than we do. They also have a never ending conveyor belt of talent from the French league one.

Our only striker making waves is Victor Osimhen in the top leagues.

Habib Diallo has scored same number of goals as Victor Osimhen. Somehow the person who is saying l dont know anything about African didn't even know his name.

We could talk about Mbiaye Diana or Ismaila Sarr.

Instead we are getting orgasmic and euphoric about our striker who has scored two goals KC this season, is it good enough probably yes because we lack quality strikers. But then again we simply don't have many if any quality striker apart from Victor.

The reality Anybody with KC stats will not even smell the Senegalese team.

They simply have far more options and strengthen in depth.

Consider Moussa Wagué has not played enough games but wait for it he plays for Barcelona.

Finally, an indictment on this divisory attitude of calling players FB and implied they are less Nigerian or loyal to the SE cause.

Look at how many of the Senegalese team were born in France and not you but many lacking knowledge will be suprised.

TheGoodJoe:
I do not know why such a statement. I just hope it does not spoil the relationship we have built with Eze. We need all the player's feeling like brothers and supporting each other. Let there be no feeling of competition.

From what l gather there is contention between Rohr and Amaju.

timay:
You've definitely not been watching Leicester at all this season.

They play their Normal game irrespective of how big the opponent involved. They gave Liverpool a run for their money and lost to an Injury time VAR awarded penalty and almost beat Chelsea, while playing adventurous in both games.

And you haven't noticed that they changed thier formation when they brought KC in.

Everything else you have said is irrelevant.

safarigirl:
nobody said 'better', the term used was 'in form'

Good mornng.

It seems you missed me so much.

Your comment is pedantic and without substance, i find no difference considering the context in which the term in-form is used and the meaning it conveys.

You missed me my only conclusion LOL

TheGoodJoe:
If Rohr said this, then I am disappointed in him. He should have talked about deficiency in a particular role or preference in playing style due to the need of the team.

Running down another player is totally wrong.

Agreed without reservation or question