₦airaland Forum

andrew444:
Our defenders now are average at best ,none is even up to uche okechukwu level ,the last best central defender we have is Joseph yobo ,the rest are just there

Agreed but l would add Danny Shittu as being a good defender that never played enough games for us to appreciate him properly.

Taliban:
Ehen who in the current set up can hold his own again st Eguavoen, Iroha, Ukechukwu and even Nwanu. In those days it was tough for African players to get into the biggest sides in Europe. Those were the days of max 3 foreign players including EU countries in a team.I know you will counter me. But that was a great side from defense to attack and even bench sef. No wonder we were ranked 5th in the world at some point.

Agreed without reservation

yarimo:
That is very commendable from the prosecutors, 20 years jail term with hard labour

DOUBLE STANDARD AND HYPOCRICY.

My personal view is that the 99% of the entire political class that have held office in this country are all CORRUPT.

Add to that segment a huge % of public officials military and or otherwise.

If this unit of measurement is used without prejudice and fear or favour. To appraise and measures probity across the board of all our supposed honourable politicians and public office holders.

Then PMB himself and his entire cabinet will be incarcerated for at least 20 years.

I am not swayed by all this hearsay media leaks that are not SUBSTANTIATED just alleged. Designed to sway public opinion away from the pertinent issues affecting our country.

And lead the gullible and foolish ASTRAY.

darkelf:
Rodgers may just be saying this things because he doesn't want to annoy any player and distort the peace in the locker room. It may just be media talk

Is it when he looks for any striker during the next transfer window before we know that he may not be considering nacho??

Okay na

Agreed without reservation

TheGoodJoe:
I told you before that the system held Nacho back. You want to culminate those systems to downplay Nacho's attribute.

You are free to run with that delusion. Rodgers has already told us Nacho is scoring goals in training.

When Nacho played for City and was in a fluid offensive system, he was one of the best in Europe. And that is a fact.

Finito.

Rogers I know and l will tell you categorically what he says in the media and public I s not necessarily his personal view.

It is not what they say it's what they do. KC is no longer a youth player. If he can do it training then he should do it on the pitch and he will be selected.

Sorry to burst your bubble but yoi are clutching at straws.

andrew444:
Thierry Henry flopped at juventus and conquer the Epl but we hear word o

If na the other way round now ,we go dey hear how physical the Epl is hard for Henry and he could not adapt

Bros you are making a lot of sense jare

Actually that's very MISLEADING too.

Go and check that Juventus team of that period where Henry played as a winger, in the highly disciplined side. He played 16 games and scored 3 goals. That's not a flop and I haven't counted assists.

Considering what he was doing for Monaco it was dissapointing for him.

TheGoodJoe:
I told you before that the system held Nacho back. You want to culminate those systems to downplay Nacho's attribute.

You are free to run with that delusion. Rodgers has already told us Nacho is scoring goals in training.

When Nacho played for City and was in a fluid offensive system[b], he was one of the best in Europe[/b]. And that is a fact.

Finito.

You are manipulating statistics to present a facade which is entirely MISLEADING.

Even the WAS is misleading best in Europe would imply top twenty at the very least.

Taking performance in limited time segments in exclusion is deception. That is what you are doing.

TheGoodJoe:
Players have attributes that distinct them from each other. Vardy is Vardy and Nacho is Nacho. He must not beat Vardy at Vardy's game to excel. What Nacho does not have in pace, he can make up with intense work rate.

With Nacho's brilliant finishing attribute couple with a lot of hard work, tracking back/dropping deep to build up plays, he can get ahead. However, it will take a lot of work because Vardy is a high quality player.

Two seasons in Leicester City after 44 EPL games he has scored 4 goals.

But since we love to look at past glories let's look at his entire career in the EPL including at Manchester city. This will mean a total of 90 games over 4 seasons in the EPL with total goals scored 16.

Is what you would call BRILLIANT FINISHING ❓ ❓ l am confused.

Now when l said he would struggle to get a championship side, with this kind of form, I was described as being a HATER. There many players who have a far better record than him in the EPL that are playing in league one.

darkelf:
Nooooooooooo!!!!!! I was against musa going to Saudi and I voiced it very fiercely. Many were against me then and said he us done and only needs yo just make money for retirement. I then asked retirement at 26

Leave mate for Matthias, football age at work, if we want to be true to ourselves.

maidaboi:
Tosin Aiyegun with a goal

Which league and which club Let's consider matters in context please.

TheGoodJoe:
I disagree with your last comment. We can not say Nacho is wasting away because he is part of the team. At the end, Rodgers has his first eleven but it does not mean the others are not assimilating the knowledge Rodgers is passing to the team.

I think the whole team is performing better, not just Ndidi. Are you seeing Wes Morgan playing like a ball playing defender? Not seen him in that light but it is working under Rodgers.

Rodgers has said Vardy is his top pick and he is playing Nacho as a center forward. Meaning Nacho will get his chance when Vardy is not available or when Nacho gets ahead of Vardy in performance. Meaning Nacho needs to keep working hard in training to get ahead. I am very okay with that.

Vardy has something KC will not be able to get, it's a God given attribute, very simple. PACE.

So he needs to create value for himself by bring something that impacts the game and gives him an advantage.

What is that something analytically speaking ❓ That's the answer to all his problems.

zoboizee:
Onyekuru
Musa
Shehu
Moses
Simon
Iwobi
Success
All the above players have something in common. A weakness for crossing the ball from the flank. Instead they prefer to cut back.

THAT IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM you are playing wing and you can not cross in the national team.

If you are 12 years old in a EPL football academy and you play on the wing. And you can not cross the ball, sorry mate you are getting RELEASED.

edi287:
Onyekuru is more of a wide forward than a winger. Just play someone like Samu on the other flank.

Good players adapt and thrive.

If you are on the wing and you have aerial dominance with a 6'5" ➕ striker and you don't cross the ball, sorry that's unforgivable.

Earthquake2:
I don't think we need another tall striker with Onuachu in the team

Success and Iheanacho are fighting for the last spot

As what strikers who can not score or cheerleaders.

Call up must be justified not on past glories but on the basis of club and league consistent continous top quality performances.

Can someone remind me how many goals the two forward players have scored in the past two seasons in thier clubs in the EPL.

Danielnino00:
Etebo has the pace but not the intelligence of a box to box midfielder.. I guess moving to the championship ha stalled his progress..

That being said, if that is ur preferred midfield combo,then Iwobi will have to come in from the bench.. right now I think Musa,Kalu and Onyekuru offer more from the wings than Iwobi

It may be premature but l noticed that when thier was the opportunity Onyekuru did not cross the ball considering the aerial advantage we had over Egypt.

Even Moses seemed not know how to cross.

How can you be Winger and can not cross the ball. In addition l noticed the same with our wing backs Shehu and Collins.

These are the primary essential attributes of both these positions amongst other attributes.

This seems to be a problem with the SE.

darkelf:
I am throwing the challenge back to you with respect to Mikel.

If he was that good, he would be playing in a premiership team and npt in the English Championship

Actually not exactly.

Depending on remuneration and opportunity as well as style of play players do choose the Championship over the EPL. Add to that he has been in China and he will have to prove himself that he still up to speed and able to hack it in the EPL, for some doubtful managers but not all.

Mikel is quality and could easily walk into a few clubs but there is the Finances to consider too, are they willing to play.

andrew444:
Good cover up ,are we talking about footballing reason or money reason and who knows solanke and jordan are not rich ?

But why are you lying that any of them is earning 70k weekly ?

But I also hope you don't pity Isaac success who you called a waste man because he also have a good account balance and earning about 35k weekly

The subject is PITY not football.

And the context is there is nothing to pity.

TheGoodJoe:
This Obagoal own was one I found funny. Keshi liked big strikers because he liked them drifting wide to become target men for the long balls. Then they hold up play and the other forwards and creative players join them there.

That was why he did not want Martins, Uche and to a less extent, Osaze striking. However, the whole media was that he must play them when they did not fit into his tactical plans or ready to bend to fit in.

It's not always about size, do you know that Obagoal had a very high jump rate. Overcoming much taller defenders add to that all the other attributes he brings.

That's a very weak rational basis for his exclusion.

When you then looked at the no hoppers he selected in his place. It is simply incomprehensible and leaves him open to many unsavoury questions.

darkelf:
I will remind you and oga forgiveness if either of the following happens:

Mikel refuses to play in the AFCON but we still play well and possibly win it

Mikel gets injured and is sidelined this missing the AFCON (a big IF ooo, please i am not praying for this) but we still play well and possibly win it

Mikel is selected but his impact isn't felt or is so minimal because others have stepped up to take the mantle.

Rohr chooses not to even look at Mikels direction when picking his team for AFCON (very unlikely but who knows) but we give an excellental showing at the tournament.

Please name one player not two that can currently replace Mikel.

My unit of measurement is selection is recognition of Consistent continous top class outstanding performances in your club and league.

darkelf:
Shebi him talk say him name no be Ibe. He says its Aibe. Trying so hard to be English. That didn't still get him noticed by the national team

Unfortunately Jordan did not have the priveledge of being brought by his Father. He was absent from his life at a very early age.

He was essentially brought up by his Jamaican step Father. As a result he has very little affinity for anything Nigerian.

Who will you blame for that, the innocent child ❓

Earthquake2:
I pity Solanke and Jordan Ibe

What are you pitying a player who has £2 million in the bank and probably on £70k a week at 21 years.

Jordan in a even better position financially speaking.

Danielnino00:
Yea. Siasia is better tactically than Rohr until he starts calling his boys...

Our local coaches aren't that tactically poor...their players selection is their biggest undoing! that was how Keshi took Gabriel Reuben to the world cup!!

And left Sone Aluko and Hope Akpan behind who were doing very well in thier careers at that time.

And worst of all Obagoal.

forgiveness:
If we can use Mikel Obi to win another AFCON now, tomorrow will take care of itself. Competition is all about winning regardless of age.

Agreed without hesitation or reservation.

Icon79:
Yea, yea ... that's easier said than done. Until you find yourself in that situation. Somebody working for 6 full months without pay!

Come home from work and your wife tells you that she desperately needs money for infant formula. What would you do


O pari

I admit with thanksgiving to God, l have never found myself in that position and pray l never ever will be.

That level of desperation can make a saint possibly kill.

However, l know do many people whose have multiple assets in the UK and Nigeria that bear no resemblance to thier public sector incomes. But are still INTRINSICALLY CORRUPT.

Icon79:
I will agree that he's the best for the Super Eagles simply because of the support and the respect he receives from the NFF. Would you the NFF accord similar treatment to an indigenous coach?
Yes, some ICs have been accused of egunje and the likes but did we bother to ask ourselves why they resort to such underhanded means? Isn't that simply because they are trying to survive?? The NFF is in habit of owing ICs 6 months or more salary. So how do you expect these men to feed their families I would like for the NFF to pay our ICs coaches their salaries on time (as they do with these foreign coaches) and give them freehand to select players, then let's see if our local coaches are not good enough.


O pari

In my limited experience of doing business in Nigeria including the issues of football.

Integrity has nothing to do with what you earn it is a mindset.

chrisooblog:
it goes beyond constructive criticism when the short comings of one are no different from the other you are trying to differentiate with.

maybe i missed something but the KC Solanke debate was never about field positioning rather effectiveness

You are getting imbroiled into semantics and loosing the substance of the discourse. Things are NEVER so specific here.

Effectiveness and positioning in the context of football are symbiotic and not separate.

elyte89:
Mr unbiased emotive ,I was speaking in general terms reason y Nija players dont get to play on @age 30 dey usually claim ,only enyeama did dt, u knw gk case its different, d older dey re,d more experienced and better dey become

I would disagree Yobo was able until he went to Turkey (money temptation) and got a bit rusty.

elyte89:
because @ age 30years(football age),in Nigeria,d official age is at least 35years and above ,@dt period,deir body most times can't cope with d physical demands of football


@taiye taiwo...retired 26years..lol 26years my foot

This is the double standard conundrum.

One minute we say there is no age cheating in Nigeria. That people are too biased towards Nigerian players.

So we can not have it both ways.

My view is very simple if you are 45 and you are still performing continous consistent top quality football, you are invited. You can not and should not be upstaged by a younger player by assumption.

The assumption of quality with age is a very spurious one particularly in Nigeria.

chrisooblog:
fair enough that he's not keen on playing for nigeria but why was his name always coming as an alternative when running down other players?

You are moving into the realm of subjectivity.

What someone will call constructive criticism another will call HATE and running down other players.

An age ago, I used Solanke in comparison too KC to show the difference between a true No. 9 i.e. an out and out striker and assumed one. To highlight that difference and said in that respect SOLANKE is far better than KC as a striker.

That argument is still ongoing, what is KC a AM, SS RW, etc.❓

forgiveness:
Can you please explain how the inclusion of Mikel Obi will cost us big time?

That proposition is without one iota of substance and is somewhat infantile reasoning it is essentially nonsensical.

Mikel arguably the only true top class player we have currently.

edi287:
I thought he excused Mikel from these games as he just joined Boro. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if he's trying to ease him out. Mikel won't be around forever - so we might as well start planning for life without him.

That is a reasonable approach, but it only becomes plausible if thier is a quality current comparable alternative to take his place.

Right now I see NONE.

In that regards the proposition becomes UNREASONABLE.

Age is not the issue more so in Nigeria, where we know any player born and brought up in Nigeria it is impossible to verify thier ages.

If Danny Alves ( PSG) Ribery, Arjen ( Bayern Munich) can be playing at the highest level for some of the best club and national teams in the World, CURRENTLY. Particularly as they are all over 35.

Then such talk of retiring a 31 year old Mikel is TOTALLY PREMATURE and quite disrespectful to be honest.

TheGoodJoe:
Even those running down Solanke should take it easy because in football, the tide can swing back to his direction.

I am befuddled why there is even discussion of Solanke in the first place.

I will admit I have met him and l find no IOTA of affinity for anything Nigerian.

He is a player with huge amounts of potential that's yet to be seen, after one season of continuous consistent first team football. We may then understand why Bournemouth payed £20 million for him, l still think it's a big gamble.

But him playing for Nigeria l just really can not see it happening.

There is a better chance of Tega Abrahams switching allegiance in my opinion.