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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:38pm On Apr 20, 2019
Earthquake3:

The bolded is clearly your opinion
which everyone knows is clearly biased towards EPL players

All these players have one thing in common, all of them are average if they made it in EPL, Onyekuru won't have to do anything special to make it in EPL
It seems that my opinion is shared by ESPN sports and w few others. In actual fact it is not am opinion but proven substantiated facts through statistical comparison.

In light of the statistical information who is therefore being EMOTIVELY BIASED and SENTIMENT and RATIONAL DRIVEN huhhuhhuh


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-van-dijk-bamba-cardiff-15409190

https://www.givemesport.com/1416780-liverpool-fan-tweets-after-espn-use-sol-bambas-stats-to-question-virgil-van-dijks-75m-fee
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:08pm On Apr 20, 2019
Humility017:
sir you never can tell...that kid could be more lethal and a better finisher with eye for goals....
same thing with Lateef that was dropped...

these players I am seeing are all good but the forward line end product is so so poor....
you don't waste chances like this. ...
I watched the Success set of 2013...that set rarely waste chances.... unlike this. even in the Africa nations cup they played....the pace and end product was astute
I really do.not get carried away with U17 football because at best is indicative of potential not much more else.

Without thay potential being developed it can actually very sadly amount to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

If U17 football was a major milestone in football progression and superior quality. Then we should be winning the World cup by now. But we are far from dominating African football.

How many of our U17 football players have progressed to top class football commensurate with the high levels they achieved at world youth level. ❓
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2019
Earthquake3:
The thing pain me, no be EPL of Sol Bamba, Michail Antonio, Ashley Young, Pedro Obiang people who don't know the basics of football
Sol Bamba is one the best Defender in the EPL, his Manager rated him higher than Van Dyke. Again Neil is clearly biased but not stupid.

When making claims albeit tongue and cheek be sure to be objective. None of our current defenders are better than Sol Bamba in my opinion he is among the top three defenders in the EPL.

All the players you mentioned would walk straight into the SE without hesitation.

Michael Antonio is like a one man riot squad on his day unplayable. Ashley Young is a very cool and level headed defender now. Because he looks so young you forger he will be 34 thus year and still first choice at Manchester United.

Pedro played 128 games for Sampdoria that includes 4 seasons in Seria A, that's not easy.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:53pm On Apr 20, 2019
godspeed:
Thanks for the first hand information bro.

From ur experience, what budget range should I be looking at for a 3-week stay ?
On a tight budget and take advantage of various synergies from living with the locals.

My suggestion AirBnB you can get a good quality room in a shared apartment in decent area for about £10 a night or even less.

With such a long stay you can probably negotiate a good discount.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:46pm On Apr 20, 2019
tbaba1234:
That picture is too blurry to make a conclusion either way.

And if we assume you are right that it was his account, it still does not show that he is older than 17 and there is no way to show that the information is accurate. At 15/16, many people enter the university these days. By 18/19, many are midway through university. My younger sister was finished by 19 and she studied a 5 year course.

What i know is this, the boy has grown bigger and taller than he was 2 years ago, suggesting that he is still growing. And he passed MRI which means he is under or close to the age range. At this point, that is the best we can hope for.
That's about the best way to put it. That's the reality of Nigeria

At least we no longer have men of 23+ parading themselves as U17.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:06pm On Apr 20, 2019
wayodude:
I've been to Cairo and it was a nice experience...seeing the Nile at Night, the Pyramids etc

I stayed in a 4 star hotel in the zamalek area which is expensive but I had the budget to deal with that. Hotels in Cairo I reckon are cheaper than their equivalents in Lagos. I never felt insecure or discriminated against at anytime. Of course you need to have your eyes open and let common sense lead you like you would anywhere else.

I have never been pickpocketed or duped by locals in any Nigerian town but I have in London and Florence!

The only negative I can say I experienced in Egypt is the local driving culture, but then if you live in Lagos you will be well versed in a similar culture.

Having said all this your experience could be different in the chaos that a major sporting event will undoubtedly bring to the city.
So you were pick pocketed in London. Well that's not too bad for a big city like London. I guess you cannot be complacent you must " shine your eye"

If its any comfort, my older brother was mugged at gun point in London at a cash machine. He initially, "as a made in Warri Guy" first head but the first guy, colobee the second before they now put gun for him head. So he had to form ice water. They then took his card got his pin and put it into a hand held card reader bypassed security and emptied both current and savings account of tens of thousands ££.

So consider yourself lucky.

Finally the fans in Egypt are known for unrestricted crazy football violence.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:45am On Apr 20, 2019
wayodude:
I've been to Cairo and it was a nice experience...seeing the Nile at Night, the Pyramids etc

I stayed in a 4 star hotel in the zamalek area which is expensive but I had the budget to deal with that. Hotels in Cairo I reckon are cheaper than their equivalents in Lagos. I never felt insecure or discriminated against at anytime. Of course you need to have your eyes open and let common sense lead you like you would anywhere else.

I have never been pickpocketed or duped by locals in any Nigerian town but I have in London and Florence!

The only negative I can say I experienced the in Egypt is the local driving culture, but then if you live in Lagos you will be well versed in a similar culture.

Having said all this your experience could be difficult in the chaos that a major sporting event will undoubtedly bring to the city.
I haven't been to Egypt for a long time, my Father took me there as a child.

However, I am prejudiced. I see and read about thier political system where the rule of law is taking a battering. The creating of a DICTATORSHIP and president for Life.

The coptic Christians and the continous discrimination that face as well as blatant attacks by various groups.

When you go to Egypt and you stay in a 4/5 star � hotel. Not all of us can always afford that me included. You get a completely false view of Egypt, you are on the well insulated and protected tourist route. Where you are shown a very serene and compliant Egypt.

That is the Egypt my Caucasian work colleagues and associates love to visit. Coming back with all kinds of wonderful stories. It's not for me. And l know l will not have the same welcome.

My hope was for a Moroccan AFCON that didn't happen so l will not be going.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:37am On Apr 20, 2019
andrew444:
Save yourself the stress

There is nothing special about Epl

There are so many players doing well in the Epl,players onyekuru is better than ,so leave matter
Why don't you present your position with substance❓ Not just aimless words.

Who is Onyekuru better thanhuh
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:08am On Apr 20, 2019
iSlayer2:
Leave Samuel Chukwueze and his surrounding hype. Samuel Chukwueze plays in the La Liga and the Europa league, therefore it is the Spanish media responsible for all the news you hear about him all over the place. We are only repeating their sentiments here. If they were not discussing him in Spain he'll be like every other player.

Onyekuru is not as discussed/hyped simply because it's the Turkish league, it doesn't have as much popularity and stuff. Coupled with that, Galatasaray didn't do very well in the champions league when they had the chance.

Discussing or hyping a player from now till tomorrow will not derail a player's career; He will still wake up early tomorrow to do his morning drills and train with his teammates.
What will derail his career are his decisions and work ethics.

On the side, many of us need to understand that hyping is in fact part of the business, it's like showbiz.
Agreed.

But then we are not all under obligation to follow the hype and should not be called HATERS when we disagree or do not join the bandwagon.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:58am On Apr 20, 2019
Earthquake3:
Iwobi has started more than half of Arsenal's games and Onyekuru is better than Hudson Odoi, he's even better than the current Pedro on the bench
I would DISAGREE with you.

He Onyekuru has played in the lower level leagues of Europe and against faster, stronger and more technically astute defenders week in week out will not find it so easy.

So he is not tested at a higher level to make such a conclusion. Better than Pedro certainly not IMO.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:50am On Apr 20, 2019
andrew444:
Na here your eye go stand.

Fulham
Cardiff
Southampton
Brighton
Burnley
Newcastle United
AFC Bournemouth

How many wingers in this club are better than onyekuru, maybe 2 , Players like nathan redmond ,Dude will start in all this teams i mentioned easily
Onyekuru has played in Belguim and Turkey and has done EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

However, can he transfer that ability and dominance to the EPL, is open to question. He is very lightweight in my opinion. He reminds me of Nani excellent player but when he came to United was a bit lightweight too . In the end he was sent to the gym to beef up. His career was OK at United but for a player tipped to replace Ronaldo, he didn't live up to expectation.

However, Onyekuru has a very big advantage there is no expectation on him. So he will not be under great pressure to perform. But the question can he perform.

In all these clubs he has a chance, however, it's one thing to get in its another to perform and claim first choice position. However, I don't think he will fit into Newcastle, Cardiff, Burnley and Bournemouth. The other teams he may have an opportunity. But him being clearly better than the existing players is open to never ending debate IMO.

I remember Atsu had a wonderful world cup for Ghana but couldn't do anything at Everton and has just been OK if l am to be generous at Newcastle.

In conclusion it's not as simplistic as you make it, the EPL is a different type of intense physical football and some teams have a different ethos that may not fit his particular attributes.

My advice to him is he should go to the Bundesliga and progress from there.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:29pm On Apr 19, 2019
andrew444:
God bless you for this statement bro

Yes samu is good but make we cool down sha

Some people self dey berate onyekuru just because he is playing in turkey but they are quick to forget this dude is just 21 and no work permit for him to play in the Epl yet

Even if onyekuru will not start at Everton ,I can give you 7 Epl clubs that he will start and he might even be their main man

Villarreal won't be relegated i have said that earlier
Which clubs❓
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:36pm On Apr 19, 2019
do4luv14:
even from the pics he post here, its ball to hand, not hand to ball, and worst is, it jst skim his hand, to me the referees is spot on, not hand ball

Agreed without one iota of reservation


The ball that just barely touched the hairs on his hand if at all did not change the direction of or trajectory of the ball in any way whatsoever.

It was the ball that hit his thigh that had the crucial touch that changed the trajectory of the ball and therefore created the goal.

I am quite SHOCKED at the comments made about this they border on DELUSION.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:17am On Apr 19, 2019
OMANBALA1:
Bia, Southgate, leave Igbo matters alone!! Stop sticking your nose into what you know nothing about. Gerrit?


This is for you, Southgate!!


Igbo ethnic group is probably the most diverse ethnic group in Nigeria. The language of the people varies from town to town, and its important to note that amongst the eastern Igbos some version of the language is not intelligible to others. For instance, I , an Anambra guy from Idenmili can understand 90% of the Igbo spoken in Enuani, Delta state but I will need a translator to understand Izii,Izaa and even Ngwa ,which are found in south east. I think the location of Agbor helped to support that "we are a distinct group" notion, but , in reality Agbor is an Igboid group with a heavy Edo influence,period. Just like Awka with Igala influence, Aguleri with Igala influence, Arochukwu with Cross River influence etc. The difference between these towns and Agbor is mere location. The Obi of Agbor bears Igbo names and so are the past ones. They claim they are not Igbo but they haven't been able to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

Just recently, their Obi threatened his chief and subjects and asked them to stop speaking Igbo giving their children Igbo names...The problem, however, is that his name is.....wait for it....Ikenchukwu Keagborekuzi....lmao. His father also has Igbo names.

The Agbor people's DNA is Igbo ,they are subconsciously Igbo and this is the way they have always been....The current Governor of Delta state is Ifeanyi Okowa(Ekwueme of Ika)....lol.

Language;Agbor speak a version of Igbo mixed with indigenous words and foreign. The Obi of Agbor doesn't speak Ika or whatever they chose to call it. It's actually funny because the man is so culturally detached from his people. 99% of Ika kids born today are given Igbo names just like its always been. I think Agbor people have identity crisis. Its very sad.

Less, I forget. When people say "pure Igbo" ,we will need you to elaborate on that because there is no one single Igbo dialect intelligible to all Igbo. The Igbo spoken in Aba is different from what is spoken in Onicha,but because the Onicha Igbo was the first Igbo used in translating the bible ,and early Onicha traders used it for commerce it became most popular. Those who are ignorant of the Igbo sociocultural makeup shouldn't discuss Igbo matters.
I am not sure why you seem to be getting so heated, over a subtle observation.

Nonetheless, you have essentially with much detail confirmed my view, opinion and or observation.

Let me reiterate, I find that people in Agbor are just like many other parts of Nigeria overwhelmingly have given thier children European derived names. Which l think is very sad as a Nigerian.

I gave you the example of Nduka Obiagbiona and asked if his name is Igbo derived. You have answered that question albeit indirectly but still comprehensively.

So what is the core issuehuh ❓ l seems we are delving into the politics of ethnicity, let me presume, that does being Igbo derived in origin or heritage make you Igbo huhhuh

Quite emphatically the paramount traditional ruler of Agbor has made it VERY RESOUNDINGLY CLEAR that they are not Igbo. Although they without doubt are historically by origin derived from the Igbo ethnicity. His answer is a capital NO.

But in today's contemporary Nigeria and ethnic dynamics they do not consider themselves to be Igbo.

That would be the same position for the Uhrobo/Isoko, Kwale and other somewhat Igbo derived and mixed ethnic groups in Delta state.

Don't presume that l am ignorant that's being condescending. I actually speak Igbo (central) l spent near 5 years at UNN where my Dad lectured for a period. And mixed with a lot of people who speak so many differing dialects it's impossible to number them.

I may have been born in the UK but l can assure you l was made in Warri.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:55pm On Apr 18, 2019
Icon79:
Haha. Komekn's own when it comes to the EPL is something else grin


O pari
What is the something else, l am lost explain more.

But before you do the superiority of the EPL is becoming more and more apparent.

Look at how many EPL teams got to the last 8 of the Champions league. And the possibility of an all EPL final is now a possibility.

Then look at the Euro cup it seems highly likely that we will have an all EPL final.

Now what could be more emphatically resounding to prove the complete SUPERIORITY of the EPL.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:20pm On Apr 18, 2019
Icon79:
The British media (pundits) are already predicting a Liverpool v Spurs UCL Finals, but they would be greatly disappointed. I think it's most likely gonna be a Barca v Ajax finals. Mark my words!


O pari
I very much doubt so, can not see Ajax beating Tottenham.

Barcelona may beat Liverpool but it will not be easy.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:40am On Apr 18, 2019
OMANBALA1:
Originally, the Olukunmi were not Igbo but today they are 101% Igbo and speak a version of Enuani(Igbo). Nduka and Anyamelune are Igbo names.
I am jumping in blind nit getting the full substance if what is in contention.

Nonetheless, l know a certain Nduka Obiagbiona from Agbor in Delta state. Would you then classify his surname as IGBO derived.

I will add that the language of Ika people's would not be described as IGBO. It may have some derivation but presently it's very far from the pure Igbo language.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:02am On Apr 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
The national teams are not charity organizations for helping underprivileged kids. It is for the best eligible kids for each age-group. The national team is not there to boost careers, it is to create the best team to achieve results.

If a kid born abroad represents us at under 17, there is a high chance that he will represent us at under 20 and senior level. We should not turn kids away when they are young and then start chasing them if they reach their potential.

Every Nigerian kid should be given an opportunity to compete. Inevitably, we will get most of the boys from home but the good foreign boys will also get in and add some value.

The responsibility to develop grassroots football lies with the clubs, the LMC, the nff and local, state and federal governments. If you have a solid system, European teams will go to Nigeria to pick boys. At best, the national team is a stop-gap measure that does little to boost local football.
Agreed without reservation or question.


If the NFF had not been riddled with corruption and sharp practices. Without doubt Ademola Lookman would be playing for us now.

After going through U17 selection for the Eaglets in London he was then dropped, Whyhuh ❓ Is it surprising that he is very skeptical about our approaches to him.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:57am On Apr 17, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
More propaganda talk. Are you saying one tournament will automatically educate? Do you know that academies in Nigeria travel out all the time for tournaments?

You went from wanting to sell off the players to this mess you are parading as education. How bad is the education when we are churning out players left and right.

If top companies are hiring students from a certain university you can never turn around and call the school poor. All Nigerians in Europe didn't play U17 you cannot come up with a legitimate reason.

You keep talking about excess opportunities, let us look at England, with the massive number of Nigerians there how many have played in the EPL? Most this boys have to face racism and flat out discrimination like what was happening at Newcastle. Then for you to suggest that they also get discriminated at home would just be to much for a child. Remember that we are dealing with kids here and scars at that age can be very unforgivable
To substantiate your position see below.

West Ham sack Tony Henry after he sparked a race row by saying the club do not want to sign any African players because they 'cause mayhem'


https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5345809/amp/West-Ham-sack-Tony-Henry-sparked-race-row.html?usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Farticle-5345809%2FWest-Ham-sack-Tony-Henry-sparked-race-row.html

Now these ate the few that have been made public with clear evidence to support the allegation.

I could tell you a hundred more individuals and clubs that ate even worse.

If you can have this happening in West Ham in London one of the most racially diverse parts of the UK. In addition BME make up at 41% of the population of London.

Then with this level of diversity how many heads of academies in London are Black how many ate even coaches and how many are managers. The figures are ABYSMAL.

When you come to the North of England that figure becomes 10 times worse.

All these these individuals and clubs perpetrate blatant racism day in day out. With the exception of Liverpool in the North there is no club l cam vouch for that doesn't have issues with race. And Liverpool is not necessarily perfect just a lot better than the rest.

Now that's what our children of black African origin have to face regularly.

So please let know one tell me that they Nigerian origin players have LIMITLESS OPPORTUNITIES. It is simply not. TRUE.

I can tell you of a club in the NW also in the EPL where the Manager has made the same statement but not in the public media.

I know one of the players who left to Watford after seeing he was not that welcome and the prevalent attitude. Buy he will never make that position public.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:28am On Apr 17, 2019
Danielnino00:
And what makes you think our players aren't good enough for Porto?
How much chance have they been given with the first team self??
Awazeim went to Nantes on loan and performed well but how much chance was he given to fight for a shirt with the first team??
When Porto signed Nwakali on loan,they moved him straight to the youth team without giving him a chance with the senior team...I don't think that's fair...
When you move as a player the permutations surrounding your move will determine your progress to a very large extent.

Are you going as a proven tested and outstanding performing established player, who is in demand.

Or are you going as youth potential who had done nothing achieved nothing and have nothing to underpin your assumed quality. That would describe Nwakali to a tee.

The next thing you have to look at is who is ahead of you are they established, are the the Manager's favourite, have they proven thier quality and are you CLEARLY UNQUESTIONABLY BETTER than themhuhhuh That's the question. The other issue is there a super agent in cohorts with the Manager that is giving certain players more opportunity to market them and make money. This probably reflects Awaziem add to that long term contract with transfer fee.

That's the Portuguese business model
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:16am On Apr 17, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Just a suspicion.

I think the loss of momentum in development of a lot of young players in Porto has to do with Jorges Mendes as komekn complained about Iorfa and Wolves.

There is no way a talent like Awaziem should have been treated the way he was at Porto except some underhand dealings to push players under Jorges Mendes Gestifute agency. Nigerian players should avoid Porto like a plague. Same goes for Wolves. They are for Mendes players.
I have first hand experience.

4 years ago l took a British born Nigerian origin player to Portugal specifically Sporting Braga, Sporting Director then was Augostino.

Contract terms were agreed but they wanted to bring in thier own agent create a TPI. Then l looked at the ridiculous buy out causes, the pittance they pay U18 players. And a general attitude towards African players who are looked upon as desperate and willing to do and take anything.

During that period Sporting Lisbon got involved as well as Guimarense. All sorts of arrangements discussed. For them there was huge amounts of money to be made from a young teenage English striker who could easily be sold back to the EPL if packaged right and given a run of games in the first team.

It felt like l was in Nigeria they have no integrity l thought England was bad. But this was another level of bribery and corruption and sharp practices. The agents there are HIGHLY DUBIOUS.

One good thing it's the kind of place a typical Nigerian hustler will feel VERY WELCOME, you can bend rules make under table arrangements, etc.

I have since then decided never to have anything to do with Portuguese football. I may go and watch matches but never have any associate undertakings.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:36am On Apr 17, 2019
edi287:
Yep. He's young...his reaction is understandable.
He's not just young he is a kid essentially.

What do you expect a child to do keep quite and act matured. The deductions some have made about this kid on the matter, beggars belief.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:24pm On Apr 16, 2019
Humility017:
the guy should please retire from the national team after AFCON.... we need encourage young legs.
he can get some chinese clubs na
After playing in Isreal hmmmm
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:39am On Apr 16, 2019
Humility017:
but those guys don't have a British passport nah and won't get a work permit....
so the best they should go is the Belgian league...they can develop from there....
Agreed, can not argue with that too much.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:36pm On Apr 15, 2019
junnyjake:
What the fvck do you mean by the bolded? You're always touting yourself to be an embodiment of civility, a man who's never resorting to gutter language, but here you are latently spicing your comment with insults.

I hate hypocrisy!
I am not sure what you understand by the term " wires crossed " which is a very civil and polite way of saying you've made slight mistake. It seems this very common expression is totally lost on you and a few other who liked your comments.

I am not an English teacher and don't have the qualification to be one. But your response says a lot about you as person.

See the bitter jaundiced vitriolic response you have given. I presume a certain degree of basic education and understanding here, but it seems where you are concerned I was very wrong. Below taken from the Cambridge online dictionary.

When people get their wires crossed, they have a different understanding of the same situation
: Somehow we got our wires crossed because I'd written the 23rd in my diary and Jen had the 16th. Misunderstanding. cross purposes. don't get me wrong idiom


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/get-your-wires-crossed


I know pride will not allow you to apologise for degrading the discourse with your gutter language and caustic abuse.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:23pm On Apr 15, 2019
Bolowolowo:
Sorry boss meant Championship.
No worries easily done, l just got a bit confused myself too. Never heard of any Ajayi in the EPL
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:20pm On Apr 15, 2019
chrisooblog:
sorry you're the one that's been biased and sentimental when you insist that dominic was wrongly excluded by the wolves coach when you have not shown evidence to show that he was one of the best defenders within that time frame for some reason you keep sounding like his football agent other than an unbiased observer who is supposed to look at all sides of the argument
I have already gone into some depth about this.

I showed with references that Wolves was the subject of English FA investigation for breach of rules. With Super agent Mendes who has been controlling the club by proxy. And with his Manager Nuno.

It is well recorded that Wolves has more Portuguese league orgin players than Porto and Benfica.

Dominic was excluded from first team training after playing near 100 games for the club as soon as the Nuno arrived.

These are all established facts not presumptions.

You may query my facts based deduction but the facts are clearly indicative of the problem.

I am not his agent.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:35am On Apr 15, 2019
Humility017:
you're right. .... Spain is still better than England and Portugal.
it really pains me to know that most of this lads will still jump on the ships of epl teams....
seeing what happened to oshimen. the Belgian league is the best and have always be the haven for nigeria players development.
This is a very difficult question it's not so simplistic.

The first thing is to be true to yourself and know what your attributes are. However, attributes can change and be created with training and development.

The Belguim league is not a top league if we are to be honest. As a consequence it will be considerably easier to get opportunities for a younger player. Or one with limited ability.

The EPL is the most competitive the Spanish league the most technical.

I really could not say which is best for players from Nigeria without residence status in Europe.

But as you already know it's VERY DIFFICULT for young players to break into the EPL irrespective of nationality and colour. Quite a few who have had no opportunity in the EPL have gone to the Bundesliga and ripped it. Because it's difficult doesn't mean that Nigerians born players are being excluded and or discriminated against. However, if they did they will have to be EXCEPTIONAL.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:15am On Apr 15, 2019
Joebie:
You have just agreed that he has a bad PR in Nigeria. So how can we fix that? That’s the crux of the matter.
Once rumour start it's very difficult to get rid of unfounded and or true. People love to believe fake news. In reality what specifically has he purported to have said that's specifically SO BAD.

Tega can not even come out and say exactly what transpired between him, his Dad and Amaju. What we have is Amaju perception and version of what transpired.

However, what did Tega perceive and understand from that meeting. Add into the mix the other permutations of England putting immense pressure on him to play for the 3 Lions. Also his long term contract not concluded with Chelsea.

In effect we may have two completely different versions of what was perceived.

Tega will not and can not bring that discussion into the public domain. That will cause undue contention and bring him into dispute with Amaju, not a wise move he us the NFF president.

I remember when Odemwegie was messed up by West Bromwich on transfer night. The media story and what happened are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. But Odemwegie just kept quiet under the circumstances.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:32am On Apr 15, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Anyway you put it it is still discrimination. I don't care what the foreign pros have they should be allowed to represent their country in peace. Can you look one of those children in the face and tell them they can't play for their country because bla bla bla?

Why is Kelechi Nwakali bouncing around on loan if the U17 is the perfect market. I put it to you that he would be doing way better if he had just gone on trials. This proves that playing in the U17 is not the end all. After all Osimhen wouldn't have been on the u17 team if he had made the Lagos state team that year.
Actually the U17 is indicative of potential and possible future ability, that's all.

The number of boys who play at U17 level and in a few years they are no longer playing is considerably high. If you count those who after playing at National level and in top EPL clubs but within a few years are not even playing in league two but non league it us quite high.

That trend is still very high with our U17 players it's a not unique to Nigeria but maybe we higher fail rate consider the very high heights we attain at U17 level. Particularly as our progression at that level is never transferred to senior team.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25pm On Apr 14, 2019
Bolowolowo:
Naija players are looking fresh for this summer.

Ajayi - premiership player of the month. Onyekuru, Onuachu and Chukwueze banging in goals. Ndidi and Etebo going hard in the midfield.


All looks good for this summer’s outing.

#NoShaking
Never heard of this before.

Have you got your wires crossed Semi Ajayi plays for the kick and rush masters of the English Championship.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10pm On Apr 14, 2019
chrisooblog:
komekn again I don't get your point first of all the german boys it's only udokhai who has shown some favourable signals towards playing for nigeria and none of them has even been called up so what's the angst?

On Tammy abraham's matter the boy said he doesn't want to play for us so why are we still arguing over a non issue I wish him all the best if he changes his mind and wants to play for us then we can discuss this matter

As for dominic before this year he had been poor for the past odd year and a half so I don't see we're getting this analysis of poor treatment given to him
When exactly did he become poor according to you❓ Please give your unit of measurement to conclude he was poor.

The time sequence is the very important and intrinsic to any deduction on this subject.

At the time he made his commitment in the summer of
2017 he was still playing for Wolves. And just played his last game for England U21. That's the pertinent time frame. I could add it was after he had just secured a long term contract with Wolves then Mendes and Nuno came in and everything changed literally over night.

So at what stage did he become poorhuh

Although not particularly relevant but since his move to Sheffield Wednesday in the January transfer window. He had been a stand out player for Sheffield Wednesday. Scoring 3 goals in 11 games for a defender is quite impressive considering he had his first game in February. Is that your idea of poor.huh

He was EXCLUDED from Wolves by Nuno not even allowed to train with the first team. Although Wolves were top of the U23 with Dominic getting rave reviews for his performances. He got injured at Ipswich and played less than half a season under the kick and rush manager McCarthey. So when did he become poorhuh

Don't you think you may indeed be prejudiced and biased because your deduction is not based on any facts or figures.

Just emotive negative bias.

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