I didn't forget Patra... The A-list Jamaicans, Jamaican-American, and British-Jamaican musicians from back in the day that I know offhand are just too many and talented, that's why I used the term: "... and more" in my post that you quoted so as to be brief.
Maxi Priest is another British citizen of Jamaican immigrant parentage who did a popular 1991 hit track with the legendary Shabba Ranks which I'm listening to right now as I type this.
Jamaica might have criminal drug gangs with some cells in the U.S. and UK, but Jamaica is also truly blessed with actors, sportsmen, musicians, brilliant people such as academics and scientists, etc.
Lionessza6: Thanks for adding some of the infor that I left out from my earlier post.
Yes, I do understand that many European countries arent ethnically and linguistically homogenous but what I wanted to point out is that there is always a dominant culture , language, religion etc that bonds the populace. The samething we have in East Africa(apart from the horn ofcourse)...those guys could form a country faster and easier than other regions in Africa. Most have Swahili as their official or main language. They all share Bantu lineage (and other lineages as well ofcourse) but the Bantu culture would be what bonds them all. The countries have similar levels of development infrastructurally and economically (with Kenya leading ofcourse). But generally, they are in a better position to attempt this merger before others.
I only knew of the Yorubas in Togo and Benin Republic....I never knew they were also found in Ghana and Ivory Coast . Good to know. I know that the Fulanis are nothe most spread-out people in Central and West Africa. How are relations between the Yorubas in Nigeria and the other countries....intermarriages ....cultural events invitations etc?....because I can see that the Fulanis don't really rate national borders much . They are citizens of wherever their people are found
Yes, the situation in Europe doesn't look good, it will surely not end well. Too much diversity leads to a lot of unrests and political turmoil .... subsequently de-industrilisation. There is no place that can develop without having one dominant group or culture ...bringing in too many races and religious who all want equal recognition and opportunities will lead to a face -off in Europe and it won't be pretty 😮
Nope...never had anything to do with media.....I'm just a regular villager living off the land .......I'm sure you're an investigative or something close 🤞
Indeed, my pleasure.
Those are interesting insights there from the second and last paragraphs of your post. They are largely correct.
A-ha! I think you're trying to minimize who you are here. Lol.
But for the sake of clarity... When you say you are "just a regular villager living off the land," are you saying you are into some kind of agribusiness like medium to commercial-scale strawberry planting, goat herding, etc, while drinking "Umqombothi" African beer in your South African community?
To answer your other questions, the ethnic Yoruba folks are in Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana and they have direct ancestral ties with the Ga people who are the indigenes of the Greater Accra area of Ghana, whose ancestors also migrated from Ile Ife, Nigeria, the spiritual and cultural capital of all the Yorubas worldwide. The Yorubas have never had issues in the countries where they migrated to centuries ago and in the last few decades because there is a strong cultural belief among the Yoruba people with respecting their hosts and NOT taunting the people they live with but to work in harmony with them.This is why in Ghana, Cote d'Ivoire, or South Africa, Canada, etc, where you have Yoruba ethnic population centers, you can NEVER hear of Yorubas deliberately insulting, openly taunting or taking the people of those countries for granted. In Ghana, the biggest market in Accra is called Makola Market and it was originally established many decades ago by Yoruba business people who engaged in big-time long-distance trading between Nigeria and Ghana and other parts of West Africa. Makola is a Yoruba name which is similar to the Mokola Market in Ibadan, Nigeria. "Makola" and "Mokola" are just dialectic variations.
In the U.S. and UK, a few folks of Yoruba descent (where you have a large population of Nigerian-Americans and British-Nigerians of ethnic Yoruba descent) under bad influence got involved in some drug use, scam activities and got busted though, but what I like about the larger Yoruba immigrant community in the U.S. and UK (who are largely hard-working and law abiding professionals in various fields) is that they came out to bluntly condemn these crimes and NEVER covered these crimes up or protect their kinsmen. That's the definition of integrity for you. This is why I like the Yoruba folks for not defending and covering up any misdeeds.
About intermarriages and relations between Yorubas and other folks of places they have immigrated into, as an internationally well-traveled man myself, I'm aware of intermarriages between Nigerians of Yoruba descent and [Yorubas number over 55 million out of Nigeria's total population of 200 million, second only to the Hausa ethnic group who are the largest with 70 million in majorly Nigeria and Niger Republic] Ghanaians, Cote d'Ivoiriens, South Africans, African-Americans, British, Canadians, French, Germans, Belgians, Zimbabweans, Malawians, Turkish, Jordanian, Thailand, etc.
If you Google Chief Alex Akinyele, the late Public Relations guru, former Minister of Information and multi-millionaire was married for 30 years and 6 months from 1968 to a South African woman of the same Xhosa ethnicity like the Madiba, Nelson Mandela (Lady Yvonne Nonzokwezi Imogen Akinyele was from the Mcwabeni family) who came to study in Nigeria during the Apartheid struggle years (because her family members were on exile in Zimbabwe and couldn't return to South Africa because of Apartheid) in the 1960s like many South Africans who got study scholarships from the Nigerian government alongside a few Namibians that I knew of back then. They had 5 biological children of mixed Yoruba and Xhosa SA descent and they lived together for 30 years and 6 months until she passed on in 1998. One of his sons Constantine lives and works as a professional in SA. After his SA-born wife passed on, Alex Akinyele later got married to an Indian woman who had a daughter for him. Read more below:
I also know of Pastor Taiwo Odukoya (a successful architect turned pastor) who lost his first wife Bimbo Odukoya in a horrendous plane crash in Port Harcourt in December 2005 and remarried a South African of Zulu ethnic descent, Nomthi Odukoya (born Rosemary Simangele Nomthi Zulu who had two boys for him while living in Nigeria and visiting South Africa as well. She was well loved by her step-children and others, but unfortunately, she passed on in 2021 after a battle with cancer. Soon after Pastor Taiwo Odukoya too passed on. So, those are two examples of successful marriages between Yoruba-Nigerians and South African women that I know of. There are more examples of such marriages but I'll stop here.
Hope that helps. Enjoy the rest of your day and don't forget the assignment I gave you to check if it is true that "Adetshina" is a Mozambican name (which from my earlier investigations I have come to doubt). Get back to me on that tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VAw2rfnDgQ ~~~~~ This is mad cool. I remember when "Make My Day" was first released in 1993. This jam from Buju Banton was a monster hit back then and brings back massive memories. It's still lit and is one of my top 5 all-time favorites from Buju Banton that I can leave on rotation as of 2024.
Massive respects to all my favorite great musicians of Jamaican descent from back in the day: Bob Marley, Shabba Ranks, Maxi Priest, Shaggy, Heavy D, Busta Rhymes, Notorious B.I.G., Canibus, Slick Rick, Pete Rock, Chubb Rock, Kardinal Offishall, and more.
Originalsly: He said he is Igbo .... but just that I don't believe he is. Thanks for the video ... very interesting and educational.
My pleasure @Originalsly.
I saw your earlier post on this thread that's why I gave you a mention.
I'm trying to get the podcast so that I can listen to what Buju Banton allegedly said. Afro-Jamaicans are of ethnically mixed ancestries as of now. It's possible that he might OR might NOT have some Ibo ancestry based on some oral accounts passed from either his father's side or mother's side from back to the early 1800s importation of Africans.
BUT my MAJOR disagreement with the article posted by the OP is the claim that Buju Banton said the well-known Jamaican Maroons are of Ibo origin which is historically FALSE and I know he will get a backlash from within the Jamaican Maroon communities for his FALSE comments when we know that Ghanaians are the bulk of the Jamaican Maroon warriors and leadership with their Ghanaian names being well-known even as of today in Jamaica.
SpiritedCheer: The very first day I landed in Jamaica, I was surprised at the strong similarity they have with Igbos and Delta people of Nigeria.
NOTE that Jamaicans are MAJORLY of Ghanaian descent and the Jamaican Maroons of the Leeward and Windward communties that Buju Banton was alleged to have said originated from the Ibos in that dodgy newspaper article are historically of Ghanaian Akan ethnic origins. I have posted two rebuttals on this same thread page with a video from the descendants of Jamaican Maroons above who CLEARLY said they were from Ghana and even the Maroon Towns are named after Ghanaian male and female militant warriors such as Nanny (or Nanni), Cudjoe and others.
This is NOT to suggest that the Ghanaian Akan ethnicities were the only Africans brought on slave ships to Jamaica since there were people from Central Africa (Angola and Congo) and West Africa (Akan, Fante, Yorubas, Ibibios, Ibos, etc) as well who were brought to the island of Jamaica during the Spanish occupation before the British chased the Spanish out of Jamaica in the 1600s and colonized it.
I wish I had known about the presence of this thread earlier, I would have debunked this falsehood that the Jamaican Maroons "originated" from the Ibos as WRONGLY ascribed to Buju Banton. INFACT this is historically known globally and taught in educational institutions in Jamaica that the Moroons of Jamaica are essentially from Ghana because ethnic groups of Ghana were many in Jamaica than other groups then.
Chisaedhor: Grammy Award-winning reggae maestro Buju Banton, real name Mark Myrie, is finally home after being released from the McRae Correctional Facility in Georgia.
According to the Jamaica Observer, Banton arrived at the Norman Manley International Airport (NMIA) on Friday flanked by police officers.
The daily reports that a huge crowd had milled at the airport to receive the Before Dawn album genius but left disappointed after the singer was reportedly whisked away to Harman Barracks for processing by police.
Also missing at the airport was a state welcome for the icon who was released a year early after being arrested at his home in Tamarac, Florida, in December 2009.
Speaking to the Guardian, the island’s Minister of National Security Horace Chang stated that even though Banton was adored greatly, he was a convicted criminal.
“We can’t give him a hero’s welcome… He committed a crime… There’s no getting over the fact that he was convicted, but Buju was loved long before he was convicted and he will be loved just the same, even if he comes home in handcuffs,” said Chang.
His first post-prison performance is reportedly in the works including a 2019 March concert in Trinidad.
The Jamaican star was found guilty of intent to deal cocaine, won a Grammy days after his conviction and earned a degree in prison.
This is is distortion of historical facts and an incorrect piece coming from the Vanguard newspaper because the dominant Jamaican Maroons of the Leeward and Windward communties that I've known about for years were of militant Ghanaian ethnic origins under the leadership of Nanny, Cudjoe, and many others. Buju Banton couldn't have said the Jamaican Maroons are Ibos or he was mixing things up here. I'll have to search for the podcast to know if the Vanguard Editor and journalist embellished this or not.
Since the 1980s, I've known through the advanced history books I've read about the history of the Maroons in Brazil, Jamaica, and Suriname. The "Jamaican" Maroons were well-known to be MAJORLY of Ghanaian descent from the Akan people. That's a well-known historical FACT even in Jamaica. There were others ethnicities that came from major African points of disembarkation from West Africa (Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, etc) and Central Africa (Angola, Congo). But the Jamaican Maroons are historically MAJORLY of Ghanaian descent. I'll add some more information here later.
Between 1673 and 1690 there were several major slave uprisings, mainly prompted by newly arrived, highly militarized Fante or Coromantee groups from Cape Coast and Ashanti Empire. On 31 July 1690, a rebellion involving 500 slaves from the Sutton estate in Clarendon Parish led to the formation of Jamaica's most stable and best organized Maroon group. Although some were killed, recaptured, or surrendered, more than 200, including women and children, remained free after the rebellion ended.[18]
They established an Ashanti-style polity based in the western parts of the Cockpit Country, notably Cudjoe's Town (Trelawny Town); the most famous ruler of the Western Maroons was Cudjoe. They incorporated outsiders only after newcomers had satisfied a strict probationary period.[19]
At this time, the leaders who emerged in the Eastern Maroons were Quao and Queen Nanny.[20] The Windward Maroons, in the wilder parts of eastern Jamaica, were always composed of separate highly mobile and culturally heterogeneous groups.[21] It is possible that the runaway slaves from de Serras' group of Karmahaly Maroons formed the initial nucleus of the Windward Maroons.[22] From early on, the Jamaican governors considered their settlements an impediment to English development of the interior. They ordered raids on the Maroon settlements in 1686 and 1702, to little effect.[23]
By about 1720, a stronger Windward community had developed around the culturally Africanised group of three villages known as Nanny Town, under the spiritual leadership of Queen Nanny, an Ashanti woman, sometimes in allegiance and sometimes in competition with other Windward groups.[24] She was known for her exceptional leadership skills, especially in guerrilla warfare during the First Maroon War. One tactic particular to the Jamaican Maroons involved the art of camouflage using plants. Her remains are reputedly buried at "Bump Grave" in Moore Town, the main town of the Windward Maroons, who are concentrated in and around the Rio Grande valley in the north-eastern parish of Portland. Queen Nanny, also known as Granny Nanny (died c. 1750s), is the only woman honoured as one of Jamaica's National Heroes. She has been immortalised in songs and legends.
Is it the same Jamaican Maroons who are majorly of militant Ghanaian Akan descent that I have known of for decades now? The extent to which some highly dishonest people go towards FABRICATING existing history is highly provocative tbh. This thread right from page 1 contains misleading information about the ethnic origins of the Jamaican Maroons as confirmed also by the Web links I've provided right BELOW:
African origins According to legend, the Koromanti name continues to ring in the maroon communities for one of two traditional reasons. The first is that it memorializes and pays tribute to one of their last visions of home, the West African coast of the same name that was traversed by the newly enslaved Africans en route to the ship that would transport them to the west. The alternative explanation is that the appellation represents the memory of the Koromanti clan, a subgroup of the Asante people of Ghana.
In 1717 the Koromanti are said to have famously rebelled against Asante paramountcy and killed their hallowed king, Osei Tutu I, whose body is said to have fallen into the river, never to be seen again. This inspired the Asante people to take a sacred oath that empowered them to rise up and put down the Koromanti uprising. Legend has it that the thwarted Kormantis were exiled and sold into slavery for their abomination. It is said that only their memory resides in Ghana. To this day, the Koromanti designation is commonly used by maroons to describe their rituals, languages, dances, and songs, which are sung to bury the dead and accompany healing rituals.
=>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Jamaicans Akan (then called Coromantee) culture from GHANA was the dominant African culture in Jamaica. Originally in earlier British colonization, the island before the 1750s was in fact mainly Akan imported.
Ethnicities Based on slave ship records, enslaved Africans mostly came from the Akan people (notably those of the Asante Kotoko alliance of the 1720s: Asante, Bono, Wassa, Nzema and Ahanta) followed by Kongo people, Fon people, Ewe people, and to a lesser degree: Yoruba, Ibibio people and Igbo people. Akan (then called Coromantee) culture was the dominant African culture in Jamaica.[4]
Originally in earlier British colonization, the island before the 1750s was in fact mainly Akan imported. However, between 1663 and 1700, only six per cent of slave ships to Jamaica listed their origin as the Gold Coast, while between 1700 and 1720 that figure went up to 27 per cent. The number of Akan slaves arriving in Jamaica from Kormantin ports only increased in the early 18th century.[5] But due to frequent rebellions from the then known "Coromantee" that often joined the slave rebellion group known as the Jamaican Maroons, other groups were sent to Jamaica
The Jamaican Maroon descendant in the video above said CLEARLY within the FIRST 5 minutes of the 30 minutes video that the Jamaican Maroons are descendants of Ghanaian warrior ethnic groups. This FACT is historically known worldwide and in educational institutions in Jamaica from the credible links provided in this post.
So, Buju Banton being a prominent Jamaican could NOT have said the Jamaican Maroons of the Leeward and Windward communties have their origins from the Ibos of Nigeria, when it's a well-known FACT in Jamaica that the Jamaican Maroons were principally of militant ethnic Ghanaian descent with even royal family members being among them having been deported into slavery as punishment after fighting a lost and brutal war in Ghana.
Better luck next time to Israel "The Style Bender" Adesanya who has always done well in the game. It's all a game of mind and endurance. Kudos to the winner from SA.
HumphreyGspot: A lecturer at the Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Unizik, faces backlash for using scissors to trim off a male student’s hairstyle for looking bushy.
The boy's hair looks overgrown like seaweeds and unkempt though. However giving the boy a minimum timeframe to trim his hair (since the University has campus codes or rules that all students have signed during the matriculation stage and must adhere to) would have been better instead of the lecturer using a scissors to cut the hair by himself... That's certainly NOT part of his job description and the boy too showed a great deal of IRRESPONSIBILITY for leaving his hair looking really unkempt. Law students for instance have dress codes while on campus or in Law School any where in the world and this is why they are admired. The same thing applies to the Military where dress codes are strictly observed. "You are addressed the way you are dressed." Period.
azpekuliar: My papa wan use the cassette kill us. Then on radio/TV once you hear “This World is not my home” na obituary announcement be that.
Lol. "Across the bridge" was a little bit better for me to listen to back in the day. But that song "This world is not my home" was like a STRONG obituary reminder... It was a deeply melancholic song.
That's another giant leap in infrastructural development in Lagos State. It's a GREAT job that Governer Babajide Sanwo-Olu and his team have done in that aspect of modern transportation and infrastructure while incrementally making Lagos State a major international business hub.
KLEINBASS: The recent surge in violence among Nigerian nationals in South Africa has drawn significant concern from both local and international communities. This alarming trend, driven by drug-related disputes, ritualistic practices, scamming, and dealing in stolen cars, has not only marred the reputation of the Nigerian diaspora but also exacerbated tensions within the South African society.
Background: A Fractured Community
South Africa, particularly its major cities like Johannesburg and Pretoria, has long been a destination for Nigerian migrants seeking better economic opportunities. However, the influx has also seen the rise of Nigerian criminal syndicates involved in various illegal activities. The lucrative markets of drugs, scamming, and stolen cars have led to fierce territorial battles, resulting in a wave of violence among rival groups.
Drugs: The Catalyst of Conflict
The primary driver of the violence is the competition for control over the drug market. Nigerian drug lords, operating with impunity in some areas, have engaged in brutal turf wars. These conflicts often lead to deadly confrontations, with rival factions resorting to extreme measures to establish dominance. The lucrative nature of the drug trade means that these disputes are not easily settled, leading to a cycle of retaliation and further bloodshed.
Rituals: A Sinister Dimension
Compounding the issue of drug-related violence is the involvement of ritualistic practices. Some factions believe in the use of traditional rituals to gain protection, power, and success in their illicit activities. These rituals, often involving human sacrifices, add a grim dimension to the violence. Reports have emerged of individuals being kidnapped and murdered for ritual purposes, casting a dark shadow over the Nigerian community.
Scamming: A Web of Deceit
In addition to drug trafficking and ritual killings, some Nigerian syndicates are deeply involved in scamming operations. These scams, often sophisticated and international in scope, range from online romance fraud to business email compromise schemes. The financial toll on victims is immense, and the associated criminal activities contribute to the violent turf wars. The competition for control over lucrative scam networks can be as fierce and deadly as that over the drug trade.
Stolen Cars: Fueling the Fire
The illicit trade in stolen cars is another lucrative business for some Nigerian criminal groups. High-end vehicles stolen in South Africa are often smuggled across borders and sold in other countries. This trade not only funds other criminal activities but also leads to violent confrontations among competing factions. The logistics of stealing, smuggling, and selling these vehicles require well-organized networks, further entrenching the criminal elements within the Nigerian community.
Impact on the Broader Community
The consequences of this violence extend beyond the immediate Nigerian factions involved. The broader Nigerian community in South Africa, many of whom are law-abiding citizens, faces increased suspicion and discrimination. Xenophobic sentiments, already a problem in South Africa, are further fueled by these violent incidents, leading to a dangerous and divisive climate.
Moreover, the violence undermines the efforts of South African authorities to maintain law and order. Law enforcement agencies, already stretched thin, struggle to contain the criminal activities and protect innocent civilians caught in the crossfire.
Efforts to Combat the Crisis
Both Nigerian and South African authorities have recognized the severity of the issue and have pledged to cooperate in addressing it. Efforts include increased policing, intelligence sharing, and community outreach programs aimed at fostering trust and cooperation among the affected communities.
Community leaders and civil society organizations also play a crucial role in mitigating the violence. Initiatives to educate young Nigerians about the dangers of involvement in drugs, scamming, and stolen car operations, as well as the consequences of ritualistic practices, are essential in breaking the cycle of violence.
Conclusion: A Call for Unity and Action
The violence among Nigerian nationals in South Africa, driven by drugs, rituals, scamming, and stolen cars, is a multifaceted crisis that demands a comprehensive response. It calls for collaboration between governments, law enforcement, and community leaders to address the root causes and promote peace. Only through concerted efforts can the cycle of violence be broken, ensuring the safety and well-being of all individuals in the affected communities.
Ultimately, addressing the underlying socio-economic factors driving individuals towards these criminal activities is essential for long-term solutions. Providing legitimate economic opportunities and fostering a sense of community and belonging can pave the way for a more harmonious coexistence.
When I was younger, I used to like Juju but over the years my eyes don clear, the idiot is a dictator in the making and not just a dictator but a very vindictive one.
I'm happy many black SA young people are moving away from this party that preaches chaos and destruction in the name of Pan-Africanism. He lost a lot of votes this year, and I foresee that party losing more SA voters; they will only be left with naturalised citizens, their SA wives and children, junkies and prostitutes 😂😂😂. And all those people combined can't even make 2% of the SA population 😅😅😅👍. So he must get over his wet dreams of having EFF as the leading party in SA....never going to happen. He fckd it up with many ridiculous policies.....but the Bordeless talk buried him deeper 😅😅🤦♀️....what was he thinking ? That we would vote for mass-migration...further dilution of our heritage and population....more division and hate ....And an addition of more hungry and under-skilled people 😅😅....more crime and chaos😅😅. Like seriously?😅.
He talked less about trade and more about migration ( he called it" free movement and unity"😅😅.As if we don't know which parts of the continent would have been targetted for this"free movement of people"
If truly Africans want to trade, are the " white man's borders" stopping that ?😅. Goods are moving throughout Africa already (ofvourse this could be improved in different ways from one country to the other).
If truly we want to craft our own national identities, why is there no talk of re-drawing the borders but you hear more talks about getting rid of the borders? The borders could be re-drawn to make sure people who have a lot in common are joined together and those countries that are difficult to manage due to diversity are broken down, why not this instead of creating an even bigger and un-manageable shythole (with un-accountable leadership)?🤔😂. For instance as a start, I'd have South Africa , Botswana, Lesotho.and Swaziland merged together to form a country. We share languages, "religions", and cultural beliefs. There would be less conflict here as we are the same people separated by borders. At a later stage , you could add more countries; like Namibia and perhaps Zimbabwe and Mozambique. Again, very little differences between the people here.
What we will always kick against; is being lumped in the same country with people we have nothing in common with ; like Somalis, Nigerians,Egyptians etc. This would be a disaster. Europe has been progressive and peaceful for the longest time owing to the homogeneity they were enjoying since they created those countries(along "tribal" lines ), but things are fast changing due to forced diversity. Soon ,Europe would be a warzone like the rest as more people from different religions and races are allowed to settle there. And some idiots think a continent as diverse as Africa could be a country?😂😂😂😂😂. Fck No!!!!. Exclude and isolate SA from that amalgamation 😂😂👍
Let me step right into the convo here.
The Ndebele people whose war-like ancestors migrated from what is now South Africa have been in what is now Zimbabwe since the 1800s as well and are a branch of the Nguni people (Zulu) who defeated the indigenous Shona people of Zimbabwe and occupied parts of Shonaland. A branch of the Nguni also settled in what is now Mozambique. Some even reached the banks of Lake Victoria further up North of the current South Africa. All these happened in the 1820s and 1830s as a result of the terrible military and migratory pressures from Mfecani... The wars against White Boer (Dutch) military invasions and seizures of the Zululands.
So, you as a South African citizen do have a point in your post that these nearby countries you mentioned have SIMILARITIES in history and culture with the ethnicities of South Africa.
As a specialist myself with many decades of knowledge in advanced world history, I want to correct one aspect of your post. The Europeans do NOT have homogeneous country borders like you stated. Many of the White European linguistic groups or ethnicities are actually split right into many different European countries as well just like in Africa and Asia. Of course, we know that Africa is the cradle of human evolution and dispersions to other continents based on well-researched DNA sequencing data. Therefore, the African continent has the greatest ethnic diversity in the whole world (with more diversity in terms of ethnic groups and sub-ethnic groups) that you do NOT see anywhere on earth.
EUROPEAN EXAMPLES: The French-speaking folks are found in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, etc, the Germans are found in Germany, Sudetenland in Hungary, Luxembourg, Switzerland, etc, the Italians are found in Italy, Corsica in France, etc, the Greeks are found in Greece, Cyprus, Turkish Cyprus, etc. There are Northern Spain ethnicities that are also found right across the border in France who speak their own language because France is NOT an ethnically homogeneous country. The use of the French language is what unites them. The Corsicans of Italian descent (where Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte came from) had for years led a campaign calling for self-government even leading to violence.
AFRICAN EXAMPLES: In Africa, you will find the indigenous Yoruba ethnic group who are mostly in Nigeria with a strong population of over 55 million people spreading from the West and North Central parts of Nigeria, to the nearby Benin Republic (where they have more than 25 indigenous Obas or Kings in the Yoruba areas of Benin Republic), and in the Republic of Togo. There are also major Yoruba population centers in Cote d'Ivoire and Ghana for centuries now due to the long-distance trading influences of the great Oyo Empire of the Yoruba people. The Ewe people are also found in Togo and Ghana where the Ewes have been fighting for independence to join their kinsmen in Togo. The Hausas who are indigenous to the far North of Nigeria are also found right across the border in Niger Republic where they constitute close to 50 percent of Niger Republic's population. Of course, we know the Ndebele people of Zimbabwe are also found in the country of South Africa where their ancestors ORIGINALLY came from.
So, as you can see from my summations right above that the Europeans are scattered across European country borders. But you made VERY VALID points about re-drawing the borders separating African countries and the negatives of too much immigration of people who do NOT share the same cultural, religious and historical origins with the indigenous Europeans. That will definitely lead to dire social-unrests and war consequences in the longer-term based on projections by experts in geopolitical analysis.
Your radical perspectives made interesting read. By the way @Lionessza6, what's your career path? You seem to me like you are totally in the media space.
dumahi: He urges the government to show compassion, and "to look into the issue of housing so that poor people like us can get good places to live”.
But in Nigeria, the government does not provide shelter for homeless people. Nor is there any plan to do so. Instead, the current focus in Lagos is on helping people on low salaries - such as cleaners, drivers and messengers in offices - to buy homes.
For people like Mr Sa’adu, any type of housing in Lagos is unaffordable - renting a shack in an informal settlement costs around 100,000 naira ($48; £62) a year, while in a working-class area, a small apartment costs around 350,000 naira ($220; £170) annually.
Worse still, many landlords demand a year's rent at the time of occupation, with no plans by the government to regulate the market despite the fact that the cost-of-living crisis is making housing unaffordable for even some young professionals. Against this backdrop, the likes of Mr Sa’adu have resigned themselves to continue living under Obalende Bridge.
"Considering what I do, it’s difficult to save enough to get a decent place to stay," he says as he lies on his mattress with the noise of vehicles driving just above his head.
“I am already used to the sound of cars. It doesn’t affect my sleep at all especially after a tired day,” he adds.
WannaHowzit: Nelson Mandela’s great-grandchild Mayibuye Mandela has called on the government to reimburse the victim of alleged identity theft in an investigation into Chidimma Adetshina’s nationality.
The former Miss SA contestant received backlash from South Africans for weeks, with some doubting her eligibility to be the face of the nation because her father is reportedly Nigerian.
A recent investigation by the Department of Home Affairs found prima facie indications of fraud and identity theft committed by Chidimma Adetshina’s mother, who is from Mozambique.
Mandela recently wrote a letter to Home Affairs demanding compensation for the emotional, financial and societal distress suffered by that nameless family.
“You cannot excuse the depression, the anxiety, psychological problem that she has faced trying to fight against this fraudulent act done by Chidimma’s mother with the assistance of the [Home Affairs] officials,” said Mandela
In the letter Mandela listed two “immediate actions” he thought were essential in resolving the case of this “fraudulent act”.
The first was compensation of 23 million rands (2 billion naira) for all the financial losses they have endured over the past 23 years.
Additionally, the activist called for the arrest and prosecution of all those implicated in the case, including Adetshina’s mother and complicit Home Affairs employees.
He said these two options were essential in restoring the family’s dignity. Mandela said the law is straightforward and should the accused be found guilty, theirs and Chidimma’s South African citizenship should be revoked.
“Chidimma is a beneficiary of a crime. This is not a fight against the beautiful lady but against a crime committed allegedly,” he told The Citizen.
Mandela said if the department refuses to compensate the family, it should be taken to court. He said should the matter reach court, the department would probably have to pay more than the R23 million he calculated.
“R23 million (N2 billion) is a very small amount for the suffering of that family. For the trauma and that they’ve been ripped off for the past two decades,” said Mandela.
Home Affairs has since called for patience as it continues its investigation. It also warned against “inflaming divisions”.
Spokesperson for the Africa Diaspora Forum (ADF), Ngqabutho Mabhena, said immigrants in South Africa were simply looking for greener pastures.
“What would happen is that naturally there would be competition between those who are also in the same space of business,” said Mabhena.
He believes South Africans were not xenophobic and a struggling South African economy has placed a strain on the relationship between South Africans and foreign nationals.
“South Africans have been living side by side with foreign nationals even during the days of apartheid,” he said.
The Department of Home Affairs in SA is taking too long to complete this. Justice must be served accordingly if any concrete infractions have been made.
Biodun556: This was confirmed by the authorities on Friday which also shares a picture of the engineers taken in front of the facility.
A team of 23 Russian engineers, the original builders of the Ajaokuta Steel Company, has arrived in Ajaokuta in Kogi State, to conduct a technical audit of the facility.
This was confirmed by the authorities on Friday which also shares a picture of the engineers taken in front of the facility.
The team, which is working alongside engineers from the company, is tasked with identifying areas for improvement and upgrading outdated equipment to ensure effective operations.
As part of the revamp, analog equipment will be replaced with digital ones to bring the facility up to modern standards.
This move is seen as a crucial step towards completing the long-abandoned project and restoring the steel plant to its former glory.
Speaking with the Nigerian Television Authority, the sole administrator of the Ajaokuta steel company, Sumaila Abdul-Akaba who confirmed this to NTA said, "The team has visited several units including thermal power plant, light mills Section and the Oxygen Plant.”
This is the way to go with the original Russian builders of the steel plant. The past involvement of the Indian investors in that steel plant was a misnomer that ONLY slowed down the sustainability of the Ajaokuta steel plant.
Rossikk: Nigeria Is Turning Into an Oil Market Juggernaut In a finely balanced oil market, Nigeria has suddenly reemerged as a key player.
During the past few weeks, actions by the country’s massive Dangote refinery have moved prices, with purchases of US barrels initially boosting the crude futures curve before a decision to sell them sent oil tumbling.
Once fully operational, the plant outside Lagos will be able to process 650,000 barrels a day, rivaling the largest sites in the US and more than 50% larger than Europe’s biggest refinery.
A look at International Energy Agency data this week shows why that’s so important.
Even if OPEC+ cancels planned supply hikes, there will be a surplus of about 860,000 barrels a day next year. The group currently plans to add 540,000 barrels a day next quarter.
Both figures are close to Dangote-sized swings.
Refinery ramp-ups are complicated, and there’s already been at least one delay. But once the site starts churning out gasoline, it will transform fuel markets in the region and upend long-established trade flows, particularly in Europe, where Nigeria currently purchases much of its supplies.
Aliko Dangote, the billionaire behind the plant, said last month the plan is for it to start producing the fuel in August, though others are doubtful.
“The refinery’s gasoline is unlikely to hit the market until at least September,” consultant FGE wrote this month, citing issues with some of the plant’s units.
Then there’s the question of feedstock.
The facility was built on a dream of Nigeria consuming its own crude. That’s why there was an uproar when Dangote started buying US supplies.
Recently, the country announced plans for its refiners to pay for oil in local currency and to consume as many as 445,000 barrels a day of domestic product. Still, it’s unclear how the latter will happen.
But if it does, that will mean less crude for current buyers, notably in Europe.
It also means that in an oil market focused on war, economic slowdowns and output curbs, Nigeria will be a surprisingly hot topic among traders in coming months.
--Alex Longley and Bill Lehane, Bloomberg News
The massive Dangote refinery establishes the African nation as a major influencer — and a potential disruptor for Europe.
It's pretty clear that some buccaneers are behind this insidious effort by this Chinese to reap where they did NOT sow. Imagine just a perimeter fence was built and the initial case in Ogun State was a Chinese-on-Chinese rivalry. This should be a blessing in disguise and a big warning to Nigeria and other countries to take their destinies in their hands and stop depending on the Mainland Chinese because some of them can be very dubious when it comes to business.
We've seen how some of these dangerous Chinese come to African countries and they smuggle out to China endangered species of animals such as Pangolins, and precious stones or other solid minerals thereby short-changing many countries of vital income streams.
SmartPolician: 1. Aliko Dangote — Dangote refinery As of August 11, 2024, Aliko Dangote, Africa’s richest person with a net worth of $12.56 billion, is advancing in various sectors. His Dangote Refinery, inaugurated on May 22, 2023, in Lekki, Nigeria, is set to be the largest single-train refinery globally, processing 650,000 barrels of crude oil daily with a $19 billion investment. The refinery aims to eliminate Nigeria’s fuel import reliance by producing gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, and LPG, and will also export surplus products. Covering 2,635 hectares in the Dangote Industries Free Zone, it features three offshore moorings and is expected to go public by early 2025. Despite early delays, it began producing diesel and aviation fuel A1 in January 2024. Dangote is also focused on agribusiness projects contributing to Nigeria’s development.
2. Theophilus Danjuma — SAPETRO South Atlantic Petroleum (SAPETRO), founded by General TY Danjuma in 1995, is an indigenous oil exploration and production company involved in the full upstream value chain and operating in four African countries. The company has notable involvement in the Akpo deepwater field off Port Harcourt, contributing to Nigeria’s oil sector. Danjuma envisioned SAPETRO as a key player in Nigeria’s oil industry, aiming to support the country’s economic development. Recently, Danjuma announced his retirement from his role as Chairman of SAPETRO. According to Forbes, as of 2015, Theophilus Danjuma had an estimated net worth of $750 m.
3. Adewale Tinubu — Oando Adewale Tinubu is a business executive and lawyer who serves as the Group Chief Executive of Oando PLC, a leading African energy solutions provider. He holds a Bachelor of Law from the University of Liverpool and an MBA and Master of Law from the London School of Economics. Tinubu began his career in corporate law in 1992. Oando PLC, listed on both the Nigerian and Johannesburg Stock Exchanges, evolved from a petroleum marketing company into an integrated energy group under his leadership. Tinubu co-founded Ocean and Oil Group (now Oando) in 1993 and led Oando’s acquisition of ConocoPhillips’ Nigerian operations in 2014 for $1.8 billion. Tinubu has been recognized by Forbes as a prominent figure in African oil and has received awards such as “Entrepreneur of the Year” from Ernst & Young in 2015 and “African Business Leader of the Year” from Africa Investor in 2011. Oando’s subsidiaries include OVH Energy, Axxela Limited, and Oando Energy Services, with OVH Energy having a significant distribution network in Nigeria.
4. Folorunsho Alakija — Famfa Oil Folorunsho Alakija, Nigeria’s richest woman with an estimated net worth of $1 bn according to Forbes as of 2020, is a prominent businesswoman and philanthropist. She is vice chair of Famfa Oil, which holds a stake in the Agbami Oilfield, an offshore asset operated in partnership with Chevron and Petrobras. The Agbami field has been active since 2008 and is expected to continue through 2024. Alakija began her career as an executive secretary at Sijuade Enterprises before founding a tailoring business, Supreme Stitches (later Rose of Sharon House of Fashion). Her entrepreneurial success led her to Famfa Oil. She successfully defended her ownership rights in a legal dispute with the Nigerian government over a claimed 50% stake. Alakija also founded the Rose of Sharon Foundation, which supports widows, orphans, and the underprivileged.
Biodun556: ZHONGFU FIRM IS AN IMPOSTOR, IT’S CHINESE AGAINST CHINESE DISPUTE: Ex-Governor Amosun
We have read various media accounts of the above in both print and social media. We have also read and aligned with the very appropriate responses from Ogun State and the Federal Government. At different levels, Government is a continuum and the various segments of events leading to this unfortunate situation occurred before, during and after our administration.
Our administration assumed office on 29 May, 2011. Very shortly after we took office, two different sets of Chinese companies, Messrs China Africa Investment FXE and Zhongfu International Investment FXE laid claims to Management rights over the Ogun Guangdong Free Trade Zone (OGFTZ). The business dispute and rivalry between Chinese concerns soon became fierce, grounded seamless business activities, and threatened public peace and safety within the Zone and neighbuoring communities.
There were claims and counter claims as to who between the two was the lawful representative of the original joint venturer, Guangdong Province, China and consequentially, who had the right to manage the Zone.
Zhongfu International Investment FXE, pretending to be a concerned and genuine tenant and Zone stakeholder volunteered very damaging and destructive information about the official representatives of Guangdong Province, the Joint Venturer and lawful Zone Managers, China Africa Investment FXE and subsequently requested to be appointed as Interim Zone Managers.
Based on the information at the government's disposal, Zhongfu International Investment FXE was appointed interim zone manager on March 15, 2012, pending further evaluation. The idea was to ensure that someone was in charge and thereby prevent unwholesome and untoward development in the Zone pending the completion of our fact-finding exercise.
It was later discovered that the information and claims volunteered by Zhongfu International Investment FXE against China Africa Investment FXE were tissues of lies.
Unknown to Ogun government at the time, Zhongfu International Investment FXE merely sought to de-market China Africa Investment FXE and to surreptitiously covet the State-owned assets of Guangdong Province in China together with the Zone ownership and management rights of their business rival.
It was further discovered - much later - through the intervention of the Chinese Government via Diplomatic Note 1601, dated 11 March, 2016.
The Government of the Peoples Republic of China, via its Diplomatic Note 1601 dated 11 March 2016, clarified to the Ogun State Government that China Africa Investment FXE was the rightful investor. After consulting with the relevant government organs, we followed the Chinese government's request.
We do recall, that Zhongfu International Investment FXE approached Nigerian courts in different jurisdictions to ventilate its legal and business rights. They lost all their four cases in court.
We also consulted with and took advice from the State Security Services and the supervising Agency, NEPZA, on the best way to proceed. Accordingly, we served Zhongfu International Investment FXE with formal Termination Notice dated 27 May, 2016.
For the completeness of records, we would like to mention that Zhongfu International Investment FXE went to court.
The proceedings in Suit Nos HCT/417/2016: Zhongfu International Investment FXE Vs OGFTZ and FCT/ABJ/CS/601/2016: Zhongfu International Investment FXE Vs NEPZA & Ors will help to shed light on this business dispute between two Chinese entities, Zhongfu and China Africa.
The final judgement in one other case, Suit No AB/04/2017: Zenith Global Merchant International Investment Ltd Vs Zhongfu International Investment FXE delivered on 29/3/2017 specifically restrained a reference to arbitration in the special circumstances of the matter being a trade dispute between two Chinese entities- Zhongfu and China Africa, with little or no connection with either Ogun State or the Federal Government.
Not satisfied with the decisions of the various courts, Zhongfu International Investment FXE took its case, and wrote petitions at various times, to higher authorities in Abuja; the Presidency, Hon Minister of Trade & Investment; Attorney General & Minister of Justice, Inspector General of Police, EFCC, and the National Assembly (both the House of Representatives and the Senate) among others.
We successfully defended our actions at all levels before these organs of government, and they all agreed with our position. Shortly after, our administration left office in May, 2019.
In conclusion, without prejudice to the ongoing efforts of the Ogun State Government and the Federal Government of Nigeria, and with all sense of responsibility I wish to categorically state that:
The agreement that was entered into at inception of the Zone in 2007 with our predecessor is what is still in operation and there was no need for any negotiation or re-negotiation of any contract when we came in and throughout our eight ( years tenure.
It is also not true that our administration sent police or any security agent to harass, intimidate, or beat anyone. If there was any such situation, it must have been from among the disputing rivals in the bid to outdo one another. Security agencies can further investigate the allegation and uphold the truth.
Nigeria should not give Zhongfu International Investment FXE any listening ear as doing so would amount to indulging and, encouraging an unlawful entity without locus standi to appropriate our common patrimony.
Stemming from the above, this matter of Zhongfu International Investment FXE should be treated the way Nigeria treated the P&ID case. There is no basis for negotiation.
I am ready to work with government agencies in any capacity to ensure that Zhongfu International Investment FXE, or any other entity, does not scam Nigeria.
Like every Nigerian, we are concerned that a purely business dispute between two Chinese nationals and corporations has now degenerated into an unlawful attempt to appropriate Nigeria’s sovereign assets.
This is unacceptable to all people of goodwill and must not be allowed to stand.
Senator lbikunle Amosun CON, FCA Governor, Ogun State (2011-2019) Senator, Ogun Central Senatorial District, (2003-2007 and 2019-2023)
This is more the reason why African countries should learn to wean themselves of the Chinese invasion. Some Mainland Chinese can be very dubious. I must emphasize here that just in 1980, the Chinese were a struggling mass of poor people with a lot of the folks using bicycles to move around and there was stagnation and melancholy.
Fast-forward to 2024, 44 years later, they have become a major military and economic power. A lot of African government entities must strive to follow the Chinese or better yet Singaporean model of economic growth! Develop yourselves and do NOT depend on the Chinese for your development and infrastructure. Period!
Zee0007: Many of us have that one language we see people speak and we can't, but we love the language.
What is that language?
Spanish, Portuguese. But in the meantime a good language translation device comes in handy when I'm traveling internationally.
There are also regional variants of Spanish in Latin American countries such as Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, etc.
Learning French though would enable you to easily transit into learning Spanish and Portuguese because of the near similarities in words.
I find it interesting (after silently scanning through a significant number of pages on this thread) that Hausa and Spanish keep popping up here. Indeed Hausa is easy to learn and doesn't need diacritical marks to understand. I have mad love for folks who speak fluent Yoruba without mixing it with English. The Godfather and 1986 Nobel laureate, Professor Wole Soyinka speaks Yoruba very well without mixing with one drop of English and he's very fluent with great diction in speaking English and French.
Another urbane gentleman I've seen who speaks Yoruba fluently without code-switching or mixing Yoruba with random English is Steve Ayorinde, a former Editor of The PUNCH newspaper, the former Commissioner for Information & Strategy and later Tourism, Arts and Culture of Lagos State under the Governor Akinwunmi Ambode government who speaks very fluent English with a great diction, and he can give a fluent extempore speech in the Yoruba language for 10 minutes or more without mixing with even one word of English.
Zee0007: Many of us have that one language we see people speak and we can't, but we love the language.
What is that language?
Spanish, Portuguese. But in the meantime a good language translation device comes in handy when I'm traveling internationally.
There are also regional variants of Spanish in Latin American countries such as Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, etc.
Learning French though would enable you to easily transit into learning Spanish and Portuguese because of the near similarities in words.
I find it interesting after silently scanning through a significant number of pages on this thread that Hausa and Spanish keep popping up here. Indeed Hausa is easy to learn and doesn't need diacritical marks to understand. I have mad love for folks who speak fluent Yoruba without mixing it with English. The Godfather and 1986 Nobel laureate, Professor Wole Soyinka speaks Yoruba very well without mixing with one drop of English and he's very fluent with great diction in speaking English and French.
Another urbane gentleman I've seen who speaks Yoruba fluently without code-switching or mixing Yoruba with random English is the former Commissioner for Information under the Lagos State Governor Akinwunmi Ambode government who speaks very good English with a great diction, and he can give a fluent extempore speech in the Yoruba language for 10 minutes or more without mixing with even one word of English.
Gudiza: The historical record shows that of the 10.7 million enslaved people who disembarked in the Americas (after nearly 2 million others died on the journey), more than 60 percent were men. But the genetic record shows that it was mostly enslaved women who contributed to the present-day gene pool.
The asymmetry in the experience of enslaved men and women — and indeed, many groups of men and women in centuries past — is well understood. Enslaved men often died before they had a chance to have children. Enslaved women were often raped and forced to have children.
The 23andMe project found this general pattern, but also uncovered a startling difference in the experience of men and women between regions in the Americas.
The scientists calculated that enslaved women in the United States contributed 1.5 times more to the modern-day gene pool of people of African descent than enslaved men. In the Latin Caribbean, they contributed 13 times more. In Northern South America, they contributed 17 times more.
What’s more, in the United States, European men contributed three times more to the modern-day gene pool of people of African descent than European women did. In the British Caribbean, they contributed 25 times more.
This genetic evidence, the scientists say, may be explained by local practices. In the United States, segregation between enslaved people and the European population may have made it more likely that the child of an enslaved mother would have an enslaved father. But in other regions where enslaved men were less likely to reproduce, dangerous practices like rice farming — in which harsh conditions and muddy fields made it easier to drown, and malaria was common — may have killed many of them before they could have children.
In some regions in Latin America, the government enacted programs that brought men from Europe to father children with enslaved women in order to intentionally diminish the African gene pool.
The study illustrates how much physical and sexual violence were part of slavery — and how they are still built into our society, Dr. Nelson said. It confirms the “mistreatment, discrimination, sexual abuse, and violence that has persisted for generations,” she said, and that many people are protesting today.
Gudiza: The study began as a dream project of Joanna Mountain, senior director of research at 23andMe, even before the company had any customers. Over 10 years she and her team built a genetic database. Primarily the participants were 23andMe customers whose grandparents were born in one of the geographic regions of trans-Atlantic slavery. All participants consented to have their DNA used in the research.
In the new study, Dr. Micheletti’s team compared this genetic database with a historical one, Slave Voyages, which contains an enormous amount of information about slavery, such as ports of embarkation and disembarkation, and numbers of enslaved men, women and children.
The researchers also consulted with some historians to identify gaps in their data, Dr. Mountain said. Historians told them, for example, that they needed representation from critical regions, like Angola and the Democratic Republic of Congo. The team worked with academics connected to West African institutions to find that data.
The size of the project’s dataset is “extraordinary,” said David Reich, a professor of genetics at Harvard who was not part of the project.
Because it drew participants from a direct-to-consumer database of millions of people, the study was able to “ask and answer questions about the past and about how people are related to each other” that could not be asked by academics like himself, he said. At best, academic projects are able to study hundreds or a few thousand people, and generally that data does not also include the genealogical information that the 23andMe research participants provided.
The findings show remarkable alignment with the historical record. Historians have estimated, for example, that 5.7 million people were taken from West Central Africa to the Americas. And the genetic record shows a very strong connection between people in West Central Africa and all people with African ancestry in the Americas.
Historians have also noted that the people who were taken to Latin America from Africa disembarked from West Central Africa, but many were taken originally from other regions like Senegambia and the Bight of Benin. And the new genetic evidence supports this, showing that the descendants of enslaved people in Latin America generally carry genetic connections with two or three of these regions in Africa.
Historical evidence shows that enslaved people in the United States and the British Caribbean, by contrast, were taken from a larger number of regions of Africa. Their descendants today show a genetic connection to people in six regions in Africa, the study found.
Gudiza: Large DNA Study Traces Violent History of American Slavery
Scientists from the consumer genetics company 23andMe have published the largest DNA study to date of people with African ancestry in the Americas.
More than one and a half centuries after the trans-Atlantic slave trade ended, a new study shows how the brutal treatment of enslaved people has shaped the DNA of their descendants.
The report, which included more than 50,000 people, 30,000 of them with African ancestry, agrees with the historical record about where people were taken from in Africa, and where they were enslaved in the Americas. But it also found some surprises.
For example, the DNA of participants from the United States showed a significant amount of Nigerian ancestry — far more than expected based on the historical records of ships carrying enslaved people directly to the United States from Nigeria.
At first, historians working with the researchers “couldn’t believe the amount of Nigerian ancestry in the U.S.,” said Steven Micheletti, a population geneticist at 23andMe who led the study.
After consulting another historian, the researchers learned that enslaved people were sent from Nigeria to the British Caribbean, and then were further traded into the United States, which could explain the genetic findings, he said.
The study illuminates one of the darkest chapters of world history, in which 12.5 million people were forcibly taken from their homelands in tens of thousands of European ships. It also shows that the historical and genetic records together tell a more layered and intimate story than either could alone.
The study, which was published on Thursday in the American Journal of Human Genetics, represents “real progress in how we think that genetics contributes to telling a story about the past,” said Alondra Nelson, a professor of social science at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., who was not involved in the study.
Although the work is commendable for making use of both historical and genetic data, Dr. Nelson said, it was also “a missed opportunity to take the full step and really collaborate with historians.” The history of the different ethnic groups in Africa, for example, and how they related to modern and historical geographic boundaries, could have been explored in greater depth, she said.
Here's a CLEARER attached image and information from my laptop archives that I've had for years now about the ethnic origins of Africans who were brought via slave schooners into the ENTIRE United States. The other attached image far above has only the screenshot or image of those Africans and their percentage populations brought into ONLY the Virginia area of the U.S.
The Bight of Benin was responsible for the Yoruba, Aja, Fon, Mins, Ewe, Hausa, etc, people who were brought into the United States. Most were shipped to the Lower Mississippi area, followed by the South Carolina/Georgia area, and a smaller number to the Virginia/Maryland area.
The Bight of Bonny (formerly called the Bight of Biafra until the Nigerian Civil War started in July 1967 to January 1970) was responsible for the Ibibio, Ibo (mainly females), Bioko and others, etc, who were brought into the United States. Most were shipped sent to the Virginia/Maryland area, followed by the Lower Mississippi area and a smaller number to the South Carolina/Georgia area.
@1stGenAmerican, this thread info will be of historical interest to you (being of maternal African-American descent). Back in the day, it was liberating to learn and relearn these (leading to a phase of shock, anger, pain, and then full acceptance of the events of history that cannot be changed). Enjoy the rest of your day.
I want you guys to kindly get back to me ASAP on this same thread page after individually finding out from Mozambicans that you know who live in South Africa if the name "Adetshina" is a Mozambican name. There are about 40 ethnic groups in Mozambique of Bantu origins just like Nigeria has 250 distinct ethnic groups or South Africa has 11 official ethnicities. I have done my own advanced investigations online and found NO such name being used by Mozambicans either males or females. I'm also aware from a publication online in South Africa that her father also uses "Adetshina" as his surname. With his names being "Michael Okechukwu Adetshina." Okechukwu is clearly an Igbo name. The names Chidimma and Onwe are also Igbo names which are part of the full names the 23-year-old uses: Vanessa Chidimma Onwe "Adetshina."
Unfortunate some dishonest young people posting here on NL, X, on YouTube, and on other propaganda Websites who are from Chidimma's father's Igbo ethnic group witg origins from the East of Nigeria have been the ones hurling toxic insults on South Africans and other Nigerian ethnic groups such as the Yorubas who have raised eyebrows since July 2024 (as to the obvious red flags and discrepancies in the meaning of "Adetshina" and the SA citizenship fraud and identify theft) have now embarked on relentlessly spreading the dodgy new story that the name "Adetshina" which that girl uses as her surname is now a Mozambican name belonging to her mother. If it's confirmed by 3 of you guys that the dodgy looking name is NOT a Mozambican name, then it would NOT be ideal to let her contest in the Miss Universe Nigeria contest because her family identify would be deemed to be built on some form of deceit. It would portray Nigerians as dishonest as well. These are the same young people who come online to insult the politicians but by their actions in defending fraud and identify theft, these ethnic Igbo youngsters have shown once again that they are far WORSE than all the politicians they attack and accuse of corruption. See the latest NL link and thread BELOW:
The girl shouldn't have been invited in the first place to the Nigerian pageant because the case of fraud and identity theft linked to her mother since 2001 has NOT been resolved. This I find completely unwise of the organizers led by Guy Murray-Bruce who is a Scottish-Nigerian.
During the early period of my research I mainly explored politics; wars, political figures, governments etc. And all my research was contemporary; I never delved into any history pre-1900s. It never crossed my mind actually.
This changed when I came across the Nazca lines of Peru - A group of geoglyphs that covered the Nazca desert in southern peru. These lines or geoglyphs were drawings of animals and plants dug into the soil and covered an area of 50 km square.
What I found fascinating about these lines wasn't just that they survived hundreds of years on a desert, but that most of the drawings could only be seen in their perfect shape from the sky directly above the drawings. Meaning that whoever made them probably had some form of air travel or a way of viewing objects from the sky.
This discovery was mind-blowing for me. Mainstream historians claimed the drawings were made between 500BC and 500AD - This was over 1000 years before the first aircraft was made, so why would the people of Peru at the time, dedicate their energy and time into creating drawings that could only be appreciated from the sky directly above those drawings.
I thought about the energy, manpower and resources it would take to make all these in a desert for no reason whatsoever; the impracticality of it seemed absurd.
And just like the political discoveries, this wasn't taught in school. Thus an interest in exploring anomalies in our past was born.
The Nazca lines or geoglyphs of Peru are incredibly fascinating.
I must emphasize here though that MOST of these past or ancient histories and esoteric knowledge can never be taught in the formal schools. They are instead learned from extra-formal education sources.
Ourtruth247: Powerful people with good intentions always ended up dead
The first thing that made be begin to question the state of the world was my interest in international politics, especially relating to Africa.
The earliest burning question I had was the question of why Africa remained underdeveloped while other parts of the world were developing at a fast rate. This led me to the realization that many African leaders of the past who actually tried to rescue their people from the fangs of poverty and economic decline, always ended up dead.
Example of these murdered African leaders included; Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana, Patrice Lumumba of Congo Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso Amilcar Cabral of Guinea Bissau and Cape Verde Samora Machel of Mozambique Sylvanus Olympio of Togo Herbert Chitepo of Zimbabwe
I read books, articles and public speeches from these men and they all talked about a western influence that aimed at keeping Africa down as a way to maintain their external control over their resources and government. They installed greedy puppets who cared more about filling their pockets than helping their own people and killed off those who didn't want to be puppets. Some of these men even hinted at their imminent deaths, because they knew what they were up against.
This was the first knowledge that shook the walls of my indoctrination.
Out of curiosity I began to dig deeper. The deeper I dug the more I realized that this wasn't just limited to Africa. Freedom fighters like Martin Luther King, Mahatma Ghandi, Che Guvera and Malcom X were assassinated.
I watched a footage of a speech by President John F Kennedy where he talked about a secret group of people controlling the world who didn't have humanity's interest at heart. He too was also assassinated months later.
This was when I realized that there was a group of people at the top of the pyramid of world power and these people didn't have good intentions for humanity and they had no tolerance for powerful people with good intentions for humanity.
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😅😅.As if we don't know which parts of the continent would have been targetted for this"free movement of people"
years tenure.