3strikes: Quick Question: I would like to know if it is adviseable to travel to Turkey or China just to buy materials needed for finishing phase of our 4 units of 5 bedroom Terraces? We are thinking of this option for two reasons 1. Quality 2. cost.
If you've taken this route before, pls share your experience.
Thanks
3strikes!!!
Bros don’t waste your money and time, anything you need is in Naija look around and ready to pay for quality. Otherwise your landing cost will x3, those dealers know they way through every corner to cut cost and still make profit. You most understand this guys buy 10 -15 containers at time with huge discount from manufacturers.
Good, please contact that person to tell us about your job, show us some of what you do for him or her. Please don’t take it as personal interrogation. The reason for this, is because of our experience with different artisan and contractors characters on this forum. When some of them make serious money from clients and still fail short of expectation.
OkanlawonB: Hello House, pls i need tips on how to make payments for the Lagos building plan permit (building plan approval) online. I have at hand the Agency Codes and the Revenue Codes for both the processing fee and the stage certification fee. I tried using Remita but my given revenue codes are not listed on the remita platform though the Agency codes are listed. Pls which other payment Platform may i try?
I believe it better paying through Nigeria bank Account, should you have any issue with them, your money can be refunded easily. Sometimes those revenue codes my be for different departments. Please make sure you send someone to one of the designated bank especially zenith bank in Alausa to make sure the codes are right before payment. Otherwise your money may get stuck in the system. One more thing after payment they will issued you certificate of payment in that bank branch to make sure your money went to State account . Like this Good luck.
Adedward: hmmmm, but I am not one chance o, it's just error in communication my team are in site doing his nets, those boy are on their way before his comments here, I don't know what he wants to collect by spoiling another person immage,
This is ridiculous, this from your mouth. Someone the give’s you job worth 7 million spoiling your name? Can you proof him wrong with all he said? This is very disrespectful for someone that gives you job to put food on table for your family. This faceless thing self.
KIDfurniture: You don enter one chance ! Nigerians will always be Nigerians ! I don’t trust any naija
Why will you not trust ANY Naija INCLUDING YOURSLF, are you not one of us? Please their are a lot of trusted people among us. Separate the few bad ones, don't generalized, If you're one of the bad, am not ooo.
rajput4real93: One aluminum guy just duped my brother. He was contracted to do the aluminum windows of a house and he was paid for TOWER aluminum. The guy used IMPORTED aluminum, not even THICK IMPORTED. He is on the run now. Let me suggest a possible solution to you if you wish. I have one guy who does aluminum works. I will personally pay him to do your work (if the money isn't much) and you ONLY pay me back after he's done. The guy is Idris by name and his rating is 10/10. He did the aluminum windows of my houses. It's one of the ways I try 2 help young guys trying to make a legitimate living. Escrow applies.
Huummmmm. I have been doing @ bold for close to 12 years. I'm dealing with 2 different guys with similar issues like this. Scroll back the pages and read this clients frustration, imagine giving someone contract of 7m and still be his mentor and the guy chooses to throw all that down the drain. Please tell me with attitude like this how will they excel in the line of business they choose. Many of them forget referral is more powerful than advertisement.
Jeff68: Well, NL, I am still at it with Adedward, the Aluminium guy, this guy honestly, is a perpetual liar! He needed to replace the net on the windows (his own suggestion) he collected 55k over a month, he was suppose to go the past two week, it’s been one story after another, just yesterday he texted me and said his boys were on their way to the site, till now no one has showed up! He, by far has been the worse person to deal with for me on this project! Lies, lies, lies!!!
I hope our professionals watch this video to compare with their finishing. Nothing is impossible in Nigeria, please look around you will see many that are 100x better. Bring your design they will build it for you, even if you want it built for you on lake they will. Not bad with that price in Philippine less then $47k, or less then 29millon, don't be surprised that amount wont buy you land in some lactation in Lagos. Good luck.
Naija people, the race is on for 2023, don’t dull o! Do your best and vote, that’s the least you can do. Whether you think your vote matters or not, get your PVC and vote whom you think will serve in your best interest. It’s better to vote and have a say than leave recipients of paltry bribes to decide your future. Whether you trust the electoral process or not, be like Nike “just do it.”
US people wey dey build, the Lord is your strength. Gas prices be like choose: “fuel ya moto or send moni to buy cement”
P.S. This is not a campaign for any candidate
True talk ooo, when people complain in Naija about their leaders I laugh. Many forget power to change is with them, but never participate in the process. For those social media voters here is another opportunity to make change If you believe your vote doesn't count. Please do yourself a fervor this time and vote. If you don't, politicians love people like you. That is what they want. In situation like that, you have no voice in what the do, is as simple as that.
MrOkenwa: Sir, I didn't do anything special to cut corners from foundation. I even spent more than what was quoted in some areas on the boq. The construction was handled (with the exception of rough electrical piping, door installation and windows installation) by a young graduate of civil engineering. Fund has never been the problem since we started, so I didn't request for any pash pash anywhere.
I've narrowed the possible solution down to: To remove the doors and bring them down to close the gap underneath when re-insalling them( Someone that read my post here suggested this to me offline). To pad/balance the floor with concrete before tiling. To put a course of blocks or concrete slab, to seal the opening beneath the doors.
Thank you everyone for your contribution. God bless you all.
Nice to hear your part of story sir. The good news is, no compromised from your side, the decision to reinstall will save you money. Its shouldn't happened if the supervising Engineer pay attention to what he get paid to do. These are some of price owner pay that is not fair.
Aforxzy: It's either the caprenter did not transfer the right height of door around your walls while forming the llintel or your floor level is uneven. If it's the latter then the level difference should have been noticed while laying your blocks.
Anyways get a tiler to transfer the tile finshed level across the rooms and see the difference in the levels. Then make up the difference with concrete or mortar before laying the tiles.
Madam Engineer, with your explanation ma. My concern is the extra cost of sand, cements and labor. We can't blame any one until we hear the full story from the owner on his decision from foundation stage. My opinion, the gap shouldn't by more then 2" for tiles in other not to waste owners money
Yansham: Can you give us an insight into how LASG levy taxed on you? I mean how much was it? I want to believe you don't have Tax Clearance Certificate for Lagos state that was why they levyed you.
How were you able to go about it?
If you don't mind, can you pls share the documents submitted for the building approval and was it a case of Do It Yourself or a govt official assisted you with the processing?
I will appreciate your input on this.
Interesting question, I hope he can share location as well. The information will help others prepare for what to expect especially the those crazy tax levy’s . To the best of my knowledge approver cost is base on local government and building location in the neighborhood.
The CCTV you deploy depends on your ideological leaning - if you subscribe to American values, you cannot use HIKVISION or DAHUA. Reason being that America is worried about HIKVISIONS association with the Chinese Military and the Chinese government as a whole. The other reason is if you do not mind China storing and processing your data....that is the position of the US government's cyber security agencies. Same can be said for UNIV CCTVs.
If you don't mind, those products are good.
If you do mind, then appropriate substitute would be Panasonic I-PRO or the American product Lorex.
2. The light issue here?
Get inverters and batteries. If you do your research you can buy good batteries in Nigeria, if you don't believe in quality in Nigeria then order from the US.
Size the installation for as many days of downtime as you want the system to be online.
Add solar panels so those can be recharged even if there is no public power supply.
3. Internet Supply
Investigate the strongest networks in your area and pay their 1TB 1 year N100,000.00 plan and subsequently determine based on how much data goes how much data your installation needs and how often to recharge.
You can also set up a system that if internet from network A fails, network B takes over, if network B fails, network C takes over. You get the gist
It will be expensive, but security is always expensive.
Thank you sir, I do research as lay man, data storing from eternal system without one knowledge is my greatest privacy concerns. Lorex is one my first choice, Owl is another good affordable brand. Another thing is when one bring it over. After spending that much, I don't want to hear Oga this one no the work here. The regular language our people use to discourage one to go their way. Thanks, we keep leaning every day
FEGEITOK: Also a CCTV that is not monitored or cannot be monitored remotely is not good enough.
Taking it further, where are recordings stored? on site or in the cloud?
Some thieves will take away your CCTV device
It’s seems you’re expat in this area, what brand of version of the IP cctv will you recommend for lay man like me in Nigeria situation of no light no strong internet connection finally security of network.
gbadexy: Ok sir, I can get you something similar to dulux trade the imported variant but you would be prepared to pay for it even though it would still be very cheap in cost comparison. Even at that, that would be for one coat which I still doubt the practicality of that. You will get a good deal from that product as a drum would literally cover 8 standard rooms or 2 units of 2 bedroom flats.
When you said drum, how many liters are you referring to as drum for a lay man like me? IS this @ apply to screeding as well. Mr Chikebrain is very specific in what he saw, 240/sqm for 20l drum.
sonnie10: Any business including used car business that is free entry for all is useless.
Sending a car to Nigeria is only good if you intend to send very heavy items along with it like generator,gas stove, freezer, tv , furniture. Even tiles for building. So, it’s free shipping as long as it is inside your car in the Consolidated container .
You do not what to pay $4 x 100lbs = $400 shipping for say a pressure washer you bought for personal use
Bros in this area, you can’t do that ooo, unless you own the container. When it’s get to Lagos it’s not free either. After clearing the numbers of cars in the container. If you have items that is worth some good amount, they will charge you for those items separately. Unless it’s doesn’t worth anything, you can then claim them as personal use items. Anyway waiting I know, people playing with the system in different ways every day.
AngelicBeing: Absolutely spot on, this brought back memories to me during my car export business from North America to Lagos.
I will buy, send to my shipper , clear it via Tincan lsland and during selling, they price it like akara and pap, apart from the issues of the bolded part of your post which l highlighted above, the Cotonou / Lome car axis also affected car business generally in Nigeria.
They will smuggle high end cars STOLEN from Canada / Western Europe to Cotonou / Lome, ( " faya wo boy's " ) smugglers will take the vehicle via (bush path) owode / Seme or idiroko, pack it in Badagry, they will now go to Oluwole boy's, Forge custom duty papers (do it as if it came via Lagos port) , and put the vehicle for sell to a give away price to buyers( if custom officers catch you after registering such vehicles, they will impound it and move it to Ikeji command) ,
Then you that legitimately bought and shipped yours from North America and paid all the fees from shipping to clearing at Lagos port will be at a loss because the Cotonou / Lome Axis boys will sell the same vehicle as yours at a give away price.
Yahoo boys / money launderers often use Car export business to move ILLICIT FUNDS to Nigeria, so if you are doing car business to make money, they will run you out of the business
Hummmmm, said it all. Case closed. Agree with you % 1,000. You forgot to mentioned those politicians that don’t even pay duty’s. They call their pady in ministry of finance, to let cars in duties free in the name of new business tax exempt. That how bad things are in our country.
They can even give you 20 years warranty. In your line of duty can testify any one of those batteries last 10 years in 24/7 service as perceive. Most of these warranty is another way of rubbing consumers. Imagine someone giving you 10 warranty on product that they produce better ones every 6 months, and you’re happy to keep the same old model for 10 years.
GoodFaith: 99% of people shipping cars to Nigeria are shipping dead cars with high mileage Likely people in Nigeria don't want to pay the high price for good Cars People selling the dead cars want high return on their investment
Bros this your assumption is wrong. Please stop generalize your experience with others. Nigerians are African most competitive bidders of word bigger used car auction. We compete with them every day. Sir if you don’t mind, how many cars do you ship to Nigeria every month to even say that.
rotecch77: Yes I understand you too, actually we are yet to Finished the door it still remain the giant handle, architrave. By that time I might have seen more beta fanciful hinges as the one on pics below
You are very smart business man, I like your style. You don't argue or prove to know much, when people try to complain about what you're doing. You do quick research and make corrections to satisfy your costumers. Trust me most people that are on this forum are professionals on the highest level of there fields, when they say something they know what they're talking about. I know you chop some of my money before and you will still chop my money when I reach that stage, that I may need you.
somehow: My brother, good finishing is not an easy something especially when you are not a yahoo yahoo or politician.
All the same, if one wishes to build a HOME, he or she should go all the way towards getting satisfaction.
Windows and burglaries alone ehh
Whoever is building now is trying..
Just pitying those to build later and have good taste ..hopefully things will fall in good places before then.
Bros what are your experience in those categories you mentioned. Those sockets posted are really expensive. I don't know what materials they are made of, the guy that bought them has a deep pocket, spent over 5million for few electrical accessories alone, wow. By the time he bought all appliances, electronics, he may probably spend another 20millon on those items alone. Bravo to him.
rotecch77: We deal with both diasporas clients and Nigerian clients so both currency are legal tender here . so we accepts both currency in our company You can make your payment into our domiciliary dollar account or Naira account in other to relieves our clients from stress.
Installation still in progress, final pics will be uploaded either here or on the project thread
seunben: Dears Please can i combine a metal door frame with a solid wood door. Would the combination work perfectly in terms of aesthetics and functionality.
Its not new idea, is being used like that in this part of the world for over 100 year. All you need is experience fabricator in wood and metal to give you prefect finishing, you can even embed 5mm thickness stainless steel plate in meddle wooding area, to make it bulletproof if you can afford the cost.
1) Vendor Relationship: I approach suppliers (Block, Cement, Wood, etc) at the start of project and build alliance. In exchange for loyalty they give me small discount. N10 per block, N50 per cement adds up. I use the Sam Dalton (Sams Club / Walmart) principle.
2) Simple Structure: My designs are simple non elevated structures. I draw my plans and then have an Architect/Draftman look it over.
3) Raw Materials: Water for example. Though I’ll still sink a well or borehole later but I simply ran a 100 foot hose from my house to this site saving money from buying water. I think water trucks are N20K now. So if I did three trips that’s like N60K saved.
Finally, my projects are self managed. No third party involvement.
You don’t need me. You just have to be onsite and be directly involved with materials purchasing.
PS: As we all know, the most expensive parts of the project is coming up.
Windows are ~N350K, Doors N200k by themselves. The POP (roofing structure cost less because we’re doing POP). Two toilet bowls and a wash hand basin.
Egun you're good manager, I've always been directly involve in most of my project procurement. Try to save money before even starting the project and make sure I precured over 60% of the material required. some times with that little 40% left, it has never been easy most of the time. I'll tell you a story, I went with them to purchase tiles for one of the projects, right in my presence with the knowledge I thought I had they were manipulating the numbers of material and sizes required for the job and cutting deals in my presence with my trusted family manger by my side. That is how difficult it is sometimes, at the end of the purchase my man busted the bubble and told me how much they offered him from the payment he did not received. We ended up buying additional tiles with the money. This is just some of the stories. You are doing well, you have all the time to be with them 24/7 and I believe that's why you are making this magnificent savings.
Dennis3D: Good day our dear esteemed Nairaland followers.
We are pleased to announce to you of another project that is about to take place along side with the other projects we are currently embarking upon.
This is a 4 Bedroom Duplex, attached 4 units of 2 bedroom flat with semi Detached BQ
Project Location - Owerri Project Client - Based Abroad
Features of Plan.
Main Duplex Ground Floor - Ante Room - Visitor's Toilet - Main Living room - Dinning. - Kitchen - Store/Pantry - Laundry room - Gym room - Work station office
Upper Floor - Family Lounge with terrace - Bedroom 1 ensuite with terrace - Bedroom 2 Ensuite - Master's Bedroom ensuite with terrace and study room - Box room or Power Room
External Features - 2 Bed self contained BQ - Car park for 6 Cars - Space for future development of flats - Garden
The 3D model of this proposed structure is shown below. We invite you to also follow up with us on this thread. As usual, let's make it as interactive as possible.
Thank you for always making our thread worth visiting. You can equally follow other activities going on via other threads that are under our profile. They are going to be updated simultaneously.
Congratulation Engineer, this is massive project. We are following and watching your speed in doing things, if you don't mind what is the land size of this multiple structure . Bros be careful out there, the news stories at that end is not encouraging.