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rmx:
It’s called vrf and it’s available, seriously considered it for 2 projects , but settled for ducted split , Thot it was better for commercial , my opinion

Rmx I thought you’re of opinion for chillers for your huge projects, what change. Are those VRF types are of economically viable for projects like hotels or multiple units of condos?

FEGEITOK:
Well, over to the professionals. Could it be a sizing issue? Either the unit is too small or the room(s) are too big for the application?

I cannot say which is which.


When I got my A/C I calculated the area and used some online calculators to determine the appropriate size of AC for the intended space

it is well, I can’t really say ooo. The heat and ventilation department no better ooo. We end users just need room temperature according to law of the City.

diordaves:
From my past experience, I can hazard a guest that lapping or lack of it is not the only issue with your roof. Metcopo has a design/conceptual flaw. It is always not a good decision to settle for metcopo.

If it is lapping, then nail down the flapping parts. The solution depends on the nature of the leak. Is it leaking whole scale? Like all part of the roof is leaking? If yes, you may need to reinstall using double lapping method.

If it is only leaking in sections, remove the leaking section and reinstall using double lapping method. This approach worked for me and ever since, I've sworn never to use metcopo again.

Do you know there are homeowners who never had a single issue with metcopo? But these homeowners are in the minority. If you use metcopo, one issue or the other must crop up. If no be lapping, na factory corrugation, or na as the installer knack the nail. One issue sha must give you headache.

I’m one of those lucky people never have any issue with metcopo in 3 different locations in the last 15 years. Although .055 gauge is always my choice.

FEGEITOK:
I am partial to Japanese technology.

Others exist, you can search for them.

Panasonic is just as good.

Use VRV or multi-split ac to do your search

Thanks, this is the one in my office with 17 internal cool and hot splits, in my opinion is not as efficient as the older regular ones. When the weather is extremely hot we can’t fill it as much. The AC’s guys department are forced to turn the chillers on.

babadots:
Multisplit or multi split ACs are systems that have 1 or more indoor units per 1 outdoor/external unit. This allows one to minimise the number of external ACs hanging out on walls.

They are not Central Air-conditioning Systems powering the entire house, but you can power between l and 6 units/rooms from just one Outdoor unit.

This allows you to purchase 2, 3 or 4 units to power the entire house.

They are much more energy efficient than the standard splits as they only generate output based on the demand for cooling. If you switch on the AC in one room, for example, it will only be using say 20% of the installed capacity.

We don't use it much in Nigeria because it is the next level up from split units and relatively newer in technology. I think it will become more popular with time and Solar deployments.

Thanks, this is amazing they are not multiple splits that as one single condenser outside unit with 4 to 8 split internal units. My concern about this particular unit is the cost of energy consumption. Although I understand it can be programmed to use any of the units when needed, but the condenser unit is running at capacity which I think is not cost efficient. Please, if you don’t mind can you share more lights on it, or if possible post what it looks like for others that may be interested to learn about it thanks. There is a debate between some professionals in that line, in regards to inverter AC’s and regular AC. Some are of the opinion that the regular AC’s is more powerful in times of output performance in cooling. The other opinion is the inverter AC’s are only good in energy savings but not strong in times of outputs of cooling.

babadots:
Yes, Air conditioning units. A halfway house between the fully central ones and individual split units

Hi, can you throw this open. What exactly do you mean halfway house between the fully central ones and individual split unit Ac’s ?

bixton:
Some years ago I travelled to go see one of my female friends in Warri and when we attended church together she introduced me to her Pastor who asked me which kind of house I was staying in and I said a One bed flat and his face changed and he was kind of quiet for a while and the female friend had to tell him it's a Self contain and it's been called a One bedroom flat in my area and he was smiling. What they call a Self contain is a Squatter or thereabout. I guess it's their own terminology.

Hummm, why is the pastor trying to measure your life style. I hope that your female friend is not his daughter for him to ask you that kind question. It’s funny to me sha.

bixton:
Good day....
Please is there anyone who has done conduit piping for AC points/units I'll like to know what you charge?

It’s cost me over 500k last year for 21Ac’s wires copper pipes etc labor inclusive. Sorry this item is including in the bill then. Ajah Lagos

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AnaCheks:
Take the list to the market and buy the wires yourself,most importantly NIGERIAN CABLES. Nb: Don't ever compromise on your Cables, make sure it's Nigerian cables.

Please let him think deep and shine his eyes, if not, he may end up buying fake, short cables, labels as Nigeria made. My advice to the gentleman, is better to let the suppliers make little then lose the total sum.

obiekunie01:
una go just dey design rubbish say una dey design house!

just look at so much waste of materials!

just physical structural assessment alone i can estimate about 32 bags of cement wasted already then av not even checked for rod, sand, blocks, water and others!

nonsense stupid design!

Hahaha Ooo ga ooo. Just reading this, is this guy the owner? Even if it is. This is ridiculous. Nah wa ooo. His best idea design may be someone else dog house design.

Well done Engineer, I noticed something about you in the last decade. Your love for lafarge green cements is unquestionable. I understand the terrain where you do most of your construction, it’s make me make informed decision using it when I started similar project till above first level, before changing it to Dangote 3x due to challenges of supply. It’s worth it in opinion from my little research in how it characteristics of its formation. In those terrain, even though I’m not a civil engineer. I still believe it’s better for those kinds of projects. Engineers in the house, this is about a decade ago debated then. I believe is still valid till date. What are your thoughts and experiences in both brands products?

rmx:
Wetin be that o

Hahaha, that big thing nah enjoy your weekend joor

somehow:
He said otherwise sir.

Haa, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I don’t have my glasses on ni jare. Anyway nah my friend, he understands mine views. RMX ma binu jare. I see that thing the grown as planned I go come take one when my savings don grow reach the price.

rmx:
Foreign currency . Good , stable ones not like cedis

Cedis stable ke? When is the last time you checked it, Ghanaians are crying if not louder than Nigerians. An economy of Lagos size if, not smaller. Please don’t be deceived, all those developments you see there is tons of debts paying for it ooo. I don’t remember when Ghana built highways of the size of Kaduna, Zaria, Kano 357 km dual carriage highway. I may be wrong ooo. That is just one, with many within the country.

segcymoor:
Again! We set to embark on 12mts depths pile at Lekki

Client: Nairalander
Project manager: MOORE -DESIGNBUILD LTD
Duration:4 months
It's our intention to do this structure right


We do appreciate your interest in our work
Suggestions and Constructive criticism were welcome
...Do follow as we proceed

Congratulation Segun, 12 meters depth pile with this inflation is not a joke at all. Congratulations to the owner as well.

sonnie10:
In practical terms, someone who was able to send $1k monthly before might only be able to send $400 now, if their income didn’t change.
Even with high exchange rate now, the high cost of building materials would negatively affect what ever gain made.

This debate is unnecessary, who even sending $1k monthly before he be lucky if he can still send $400. How about nothing? if he or she struggling to pay his bills. Is hard for people to understand this not until you move here permanently, then they know the difference between kaki and leather. That $100 someone send, do they know how many hours that person worked to get that money. No one I repeat give anyone money here you must go and put in those hours to make money for yourself.

hamtabfawaz:
Yes Labour & Materials inclusive.


Yes, it would reduce your cost, but you still have to buy normal black cement for external screeding, As Pop cement isn't suitable for external screeding.

Call or WhatsApp me on: 09122348437

How much will you do screeding of 2 story with penthouse external 1,379 sqm internal 454 sqm material labor intensive. Ajah.

sethtsadopp:
Please How much will it cost to screed a 2 storey terrace of total 1080 sqm

hamtabfawaz, bolu86

Are you asking for labor only or with materials inclusive?

Born2conquer:
Hello Chiefs, fencing is expensive so I settled on erecting sign boards instead.

Is this writeup okay? I need something Harsh since I might not be visiting some of these properties in years

Hahaha bros, where do you posted this sign in Nigeria. Oh man, if it’s in Lagos before you leave that site in your present those crazy boys will make you paid them before you put it on the land you pay for. Please make sure your land is well documented, pay all government fees, try do fence even if it’s only 5 couches of blocks.

Mophor:
Good morning to everyone here,please how much do tilers charge per square meters because this tiler is charging me 250k for 90sqm floor and also 40bags of cement... Thanks in anticipation and wishing us all a stress free week ahead

This is ridiculous, some people like him will soon lineup behind him to
Justify those price. Some of these people target are online clients, thank God for this platform. We are not saying you shouldn’t charge fair prices for your labor. Haba kilode, fear God nah.

Slimszy:
Greetings Sir, thank you for your input.

I just checked today and the height of the surrounding floor is higher than the DPC. I noticed quality of the DPC material was light too.

Ps: I bought the house and I didn't build from scratch. I only did the finishing

Hummmm, this are the reason why buying already build houses without seeing in built from foundation always give me concern. Imagine going through this after paying millions.

omobenz7:
Please house I am trying to do a wood work of a four bedroom apartment and 2 shop at the front of the house. I don't know how to go about it I want to do metpopo design roofing

Contact @ Imran roofing, right here.

bobkezel:
In other words, if I hire a bricklayer for a job, after buying materials (cement, sand, water, stones), I will still buy/provide headpan, shovel, trowel, rope, tape, gauge....

YES Ooo my brother, the Engineer will spell out everything needed in contract including paint Buckets including line's. They are all yours when they finish. One thing that always leads to argument in contracting job out is inflate the materials needed, even after bringing the materials to your site when the job is done many of them will claim the reaming materials are theirs and will like to take them when they are done. I don't understand that ooo. I think we should have a debate on this issue in order to have better understanding.

olukaygold:
Depending on location and number of doors. but highest 10k per door.cos he won't do the installations at once cos he'd firstly install the skeleton frame in-between the entrance wall then fill it up with mortal cement after three days when the mortal dries,he can now do the installations.

10k per door ? This price, I believe is for people in banana island sha ooo.

coldcandy:
They said this is Lagos

Yes that lagos Island for you. Average cost of those tiny quarter plot of land much as 40millon if you fine one for sale. Average annual rent for those building one room apartment 400k, shop of single room size rent 600- 1millon depending on the area. Most renters pay up front before the structure is even build.

sonnie10:
Can you do that one that has like metal rib design in between the joints? I will find picture of the sample

By the way this is one of reasons many don’t give there prices here.
All these counter lower pricing once someone else states their own price is just some how.

That is why it’s should be open market, higher prices doses not results to quality finishing. We all had it with Mr Okewa and other guy about their tiler few weeks ago. If some people want make profit of 15k per door for example because he is being busy with different jobs, other's that haven’t get job for 2 months with family to feed, may preferred to do same for profit of 10k per door, think about it. Read the break down Analysis someone else give with the number of HDF woods needed to fabricate the door. To be fair, location is a factor too.

Born2conquer:
6 years and the 500k solar water heater would be changed?

if necessary “an“. Most of the water heaters as 8-10 years warranty factor Nigeria low quality issues in it probably. If you use the regular electric water heater. Electric bill, or fuel, generator capacity all inclusive = Thousands naira in five years, won’t you choose solar water heater?. I just wake one of my friend up few months ago about same issue with solar lights around the perimeter fence including all the security light in the house, after wasting his money on fueling for few years, on big generator. He finally agreed with me and decided to switch and reduce his bill drastically.

KolaShangOne:
For a duplex? Can you do a breakdown of finishing just for discussion sake?

Oyaaa.. let's start.

Generally, these are assumptions.

1. External Entrance door - 350,000
2. Ante room door - 200,000
3. Room doors - 5 - 500,000
4. Kitchen external door - 180,000
5. Verandah door (upstairs) - 180,000
6. Toilet doors (5) + store door- 420,000
7. POP / Plasterboard - 1,700,000 - 2,000,000
8. Screeding (in & out) - 600,000
9. Kit hen cabinet + marble - 350,000
10. Kitchen sink & tap - 65,000
11. Hood extractor - 100,000
12. 5 burner cooker- 120,000
13. Wall tiles for 5 bathrooms + labour - 600,000*
14. Floor tiles (Italian, CDK) + sand + cement + labour - 2,200,000
15. Painting - in & out + labour - 750,000*
16. For logistics - 150,000
17. Scaffolding - 800,000*
18. Borehole - 700,000
19. Light fittings - 750,000
20. Switches + sockets - 300,000
21. Cameras - ******
22. Electric fence - 350,000
23. Water closets - 350,000
24. Showers - 75,000
25. Mirrors, waste paper holder etc- 100,000
26. Railings for stairs, balcony etc - 400,000
27. External plumbing - 250,000*

Etc etc

You try sha, but those doors prices are outrageous. Why people still buying water heater, when they could make one time investment on solar water heater. No electric bill for life. Imagine buying 8pcs of water heater @50k each when you could get solar water heater for same capacity for 500k or little more and you set for 5 - 6 years before replacement if it necessary. Let think and invest wisely.

Nero2424:
Sorry Dude, i took the number off watsapp and barred numbers with +234 country code. I'll reach you on a different whatsapp number.

Hummm?

cash1115:
sir I agreed with your point but in my field where you gave me pop on contract basis you give me your design and I fix it, you will have problem with me cos I need to give you what u want, I mistakenly fix a wrong pop for some one some years back and I sent him the picture the man was so angry, I had to cut it down and start afresh. Some time it takes ur worker to have the fear of God to do a good job some workers are heartless and wicked

Hahaha fear of God from Naija artisan? Many of us are watching when some of the guys what premium pay for good finish. Thank God some one among us as paid still get low quality finishing. Another person pay what many consider low pay and get premium finishing. Comparing locals with international is just comparing apple with orange. Please don’t get me wrong. I think many of our locals want to know how much these guys paying as taxes, insurance, license many other certifications, before they can’t even operate. Those things are not joke here. If one violates the laws they will lose their license and go to jail. it’s not a joke, again these guys do not inflates materials, they do not use inferior materials, they keep by the books that is why many of them charge does premium to give premium finishing.

Dennis3D:
Good evening Viewers.
As promised.
Here are some of the recent pictures of this project.

External Views.

We don't Just design.
We build with so much accuracy.

Good job always. You just don't build, you build according to rule and standard. One of your satsified clients, well done