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CivilEngineer90:
I have taken down all controversial posts so you can take down this too

Thank you guys, no battle is won on battlefield . It’s always won on round table amicably.

DoctorWh00:
Chairmen. I’ve checked the drawings and they are very okay.
2. All necessary information’s as listed in my initial post are in the drawings
3. However, for transparency, you can send it to one more person here to also review it and give a final verdict.

DoctorWho.

Thank you bros, stay blessed.

unzend:
Thanks DoctorWho, Appreciate your help and sacrifice.

I have sent another 35K remaining 40K

The remaining will be sent when I get another review.

Peace.

Guys please stop exposing your privacy like this, the world is watching. Both of you can disagree and and agree. @ CivilEgineer90 please go and remove all those threats about your client internet does not forget or forgive. Mr client you can share proof of payment without exposing his details, I will advise you to rethink from what he wrote about your project. Spending 2 to 3m to correct things to have rest of mind is better than taking risk of spending 70 to 100m with sleepless nights. Ikoyi gate is not far from our memory. I wish both of you best of luck.

CivilEngineer90:
you think you are smart, you think your money makes you better than everyone else, so rude and arrogant.

Mr FEHINTI WALE JOHN pay me my money which you own me for the balance of Architectural and Structural drawings delivered to you.

Oga please take it easy, you can resolve this issue amicably without going through ruforufo style. My question to you, all this job is done for 150k if I get you right? Does this drawing includes seal of approval? Is Mechanical, Electrical included in the negotiation? It’s should be included as well, that what makes full drawing. It’s looks like the young dude didn’t understand the process that’s why I believe he is asking for review, you as a professional should have advised him professionally. Mr client, to be fair. There is no reason to withhold somebody’s balance. After the job is delivered, it doesn’t matter whichever format it’s done. I think it would be fair to pay him his balance without making him go through this headache. You can see the breakdown of all you needed, as it’s already detailed down and it must be in 6 sets of booklets to be submitted for approval. If it’s in Lagos state.

mavverick:
It's not from the foundation. It's localised in specific areas.

I let the professionals tip in more opinions. @Gbadexy has more information and experience in paint. He applied science in manufacturing his paint brand.

Compliment of the session. Merry Christmas to all our Christian friends and families.
I don’t have any problem paying any contractor I requested his quotation as fare is fair. Contractors must also understands clients will not take for ride. We will continue to compare quotes not to shortchanged . Imagine inviting 3 contractors to compare their quotes for same job. For example first contractor request or quoted 70 bags of cements 40 pieces of 12mm rods charge 40k as labor. Second contractor requested for 90 bags of cements 32 pieces 10mm rods charge 20k. Third contractor requested 80 bags of cements 50 piece 10mm rods, charge 50k for labor. Some of us as experience clients, with materials variation like this, we have methods of dealing with situation like this. One thing that is clear from experience, those that quoted low to get the job are always recipe for disaster, they will either cut corners, run away with your money or end up abandoning the job. The bigger problem with artisans and some contractors is trust, they collect money to buy quality stuff ends up buying inferior products.

mavverick:
It's been a while, don't know what happened with my account. But it's good to be back here looking for paint recommendations.

Haba, why going far. I hope you remember our in house brand @ Gbadexy quality and affordable. Check him out

akinola98:
Dear fellow Nairalanders

Just an update on the bad roofing work done for me by this quack ( Rotecch) which I complained of, few weeks ago on NL

I spent another 2million naira plus to correct this terrible job done for me by this incompetent fellow, despite paying him over 2 million naira months ago for the same job but he used substandard materials and lack knowledge

The roof job was terrible because:
- no enough wood used for support
- Roof was not slanting therefore retaining water on roof causing multiple leakages
- 0.45mm aluminium was used instead of the 0.55mm I paid him for ( fraudulent)

See steps for correction:

Picture 1 : Original roof retaining water on roof thereby causing multiple roof leakages
Picture 2: All original aluminium roof removed
Picture 3: Non slanting roof…. Lack woods
Picture 4: Non slanting roof corrected
Picture 5 : New roof laid

ROTECCH77, U remember u told NL I owed u 250k balance and I owned up saying it was meant to aid me in correction of your terrible job .. Can u see that the 250k is no where to the additional 2million I have spent…. U are thr one owing me 1.75million now but I let go and leave u in God s hands for justice

I pray that any contractor/artisan that defrauds or collects money from hard working NLers but does terrible work will NEVER know peace or gain/profit �

Rotecch, if u want to see a full video of your atrocities and d correction , u can notify me, I will send it to you ….

So sad to read stories like this, imagine 1.7m wasted in this economy just because someone doesn’t do what they need to do right once. This is another example of people cutting corners, it’s always ends with wasting labor and resources.

Coiner:
Hmmm. What should one go for then? Pls suggest.

It’s all depends on individual choice, I already share my experience with the doors. Go there talk to them the will explain everything to you, when I bought mine they offered me cheaper ones for 90k for 3ft other 3ft for 130 to 150k. Those rugged not fancy looking are better for outdoor, the fancy ones are better for indoor from my personal experience.

mavverick:
Compliments of the season to everyone.

I have a question I would like to ask, can anyone recommend a specific exterior paint (westhershield).

My painter recommended double design but I am sceptic. What's there now is Dulux and whilst it's OK, some places need to be repainted for example fence. It's unrecognisable.

@mawverick and other old guys on this platform, waiting happen way you guy take long break of not contributing. Complement of season ooooo.

Coiner:
Also, I have been confused on the right exterior security doors to get. Make una help me abeg. I need something very durable but I lack experience in this area.

Pls someone should help me choose from these options. Or if you have a picture of a very solid door, kindly share.

Can't spam here with many pictures. But a lot of them look similar.

Bros many of these fancy doors are made with 1mm thick plates steels to cover the face, this is the ones I bought 3 years ago

sonnie10:
I was going to buy these types of doors but people here mentioned that they don’t last. But I still want them thou.
Someone in Lagos said #250k for the 4 feet while 3 feet is #190k .

The guy is right I bought couple of them in September. Please don’t be deceived, many of those doors are made in Lekki free trade zone now. Proudly made in Nigeria. Shine your eyes for those shining once they are mostly good for indoor, many of them are made with compressed paper not even compressed woods.

en1gma12:
Thank you so much Mr kopell. I've actually been following Mr abdulwastecx's works, but as we've seen on this thread some people are usually different in real life from Nairaland. Have you worked with him directly before? Or Mr hajivince? Also, any tips for me especially on starting a project? Are there things I must do? Once again, thanks for responding.

Aventures, Dennis3d, build for me, Hajivince building behind the seen without any drama. Your right Abdulwastecx could have also built for then. He is busy . Still do your diligent. Dennis3d, Aventures, will never cut corners, they will either walked away. Mind you they are not cheap, they will advised you professionally. Good luck.

en1gma12:
Thank you so much Mr kopell. I've actually been following Mr abdulwastecx's works, but as we've seen on this thread some people are usually different in real life from Nairaland. Have you worked with him directly before? Or Mr hajivince? Also, any tips for me especially on starting a project? Are there things I must do? Once again, thanks for responding.

Aventures, Dennis3d, build for me, Hajivince building behind the seen without any drama. Your right Abdulwastecx could have also built for then. He is busy. Still do your deligent

rotecch77:
Naa so my oga
Sorry sir on his behalf, he has learned his mistake

My Oga na so life be. The lord will forgive all of us.

en1gma12:
Good afternoon house. I want to start a project in January and I'm a complete novice. I've studied this thread for weeks and honestly I've learnt a whole lot. I, however feel it's still wise to ask the professionals and experienced members here on what are the first steps to take.

Also, I would appreciate if anyone can recommend an Engineer (preferably in Abuja). I want someone who is honest and doesn't compromise on quality. All responses are highly welcome. Thank you.

You want to try this Young Engineer he works in that area https://www.nairaland.com/abdulwastecx

https://www.nairaland.com/7433586/nigerian-house-plans-construction-2unit/1#119225688
I don’t know if Dennis3d will like to work in Abuja
If you don’t see some of this guys, it’s doesn’t mean they are sleeping oooo. HajiVince’s as project in Abuja.

olukaygold:
I'm very sorry sir. Omo de loun se mi

Hahaha, life niyen. Please try to listen to others opinions, don’t look at it as an attack. We are all learning everyday.

MrOkenwa:
Dear Sir, apology for his comment. Omode kii mo eko je, ko ma ra lowo. You are one of the well respected members here.

My Oga at the top, na life be that ooo. If he be my pikin waiting I go do. I’ve been here for sometime, many things happening behind the screen. Young engineers are cashing out big, approach is very important. Thanks sir

FEGEITOK:
By being directly involved in construction I realize that you can build that structure for way way less than 100m, I am saying 100m based on the selling price of similar places in Abuja.

So 100m is selling price and not cost to build.

Maybe I should share pictures of houses for sale in Abuja and their prices to buttress my point

That will be a good idea, land + location determines value cost of building. I missed out on FO1 allocation when El Rufai was the minister of FCT. My brother then is begging me to buy from the allocation is less then 2 million everything inclusive. Years later when I decided to buy from resale I couldn’t get any for less them 8m move to FO2 bought @ 5m 8 years ago. I don’t even know how much those areas worth at present.

olukaygold:
Each Professional has a way of handling Project differently. The way you handle yours is quite different from the way I'll handle mine. I won't say much. But next time you cabal want to criticize,pls criticize with something similar. Below is 2pairs of fabricated Gates I did for
Less than 200k per pair(No inferior/light materials) to a Nairalander in Abeokuta. I'd have spend less if I know where to source for Steel bar Materials directly from the head-office in Abeokuta. Go price it outside and hear the Price. ;

Hahahha. I hope you’re not referring me to cabal. FYI, I am not a contractor ooo I beg. I give couple of Engineers here different projects to build for me ni ooo. Please don’t even think of that cabal thing with me. It is well, constructive criticizing makes one improve.

olukaygold:
Oga! Whenever you want to Judge. Compare that building with nearly something similar to it before passing your Judgement. I don't even think you'd reason so low like this.

Oga ooo, me so low. Is okay, I notice it’s hard for you to take correction from professional here, even in the process of some of your projects. You most understand the entire blocks you used to build some of your projects, can’t fence other peoples projects. That why I said we should not generalize. You’re comparing cost of building in Akure to other places ko jo rawon na. Savings shouldn’t be a trap of death. I hope you remember Ikoyi gate? To old for person of your age.

olukaygold:
Part of reason why I seldom comment here because cabals here will surely attack me in one way or the other. There are lots of Nairalanders I've worked for,there are lots that they've become House owner today due to my affordable housing costs and well details threads I created on Nairaland and the conveniences of getting materials easily for my Cl. Below is my ongoing Project(Two bedroom Semo detached) in Akure for a member here.We haven't spent UpTo 6m to this stage. Ask them to quote price for you,be expecting 10m plus

Oga house are different okay, that your amount can’t do other people foundation. Please ask those that are doing piling for their foundation, in some areas it’s cost over 12 million to do piling alone. Please don’t think everyone will build those kind of projects. We should not generalize.

Born2conquer:
how did you do it? Enlighten us. I haven't been able to start anything since 2020 because I get weak whenever I see the figures

Please don’t be discouraged with those numbers, start with as little as 200k little by little before you know it, will be at roofing stage. Our fingers are not equal. Some people can afford to put 85% of entire materials needed before they start .

KolaShangOne:
Simawa, Ogun state.

The picture was actually sent to me by a client.

He wants the exact building for 17 millon naira..

I hope the client is reading the numbers people are suggesting. @ sonnie10 already breaks it down even with those numbers. Terrain of his land will determine the kind of foundation needed. I will suggest he budget 35 million.

KolaShangOne:
How much do you think this building is worth 20? 30? 40? 50million?

In which city is the building?

kalu61:
These are the sort of things we want to see here.
A big congratulations to you.

Wether you bought it not not, you have a good reputation here and l give you kudos.

It's a big lesson to a of us.

Reputation can't be bypassed in business. For those of us involved in a messed up projects with our clients, it's time to evaluate yourself and fix where you got it wrong; budgeting, planning, execution, misappropriation, miscommunication etc. Hopefully, next year will be much better.

I look forward to see end of the year appraisals of jobs we did; where we failed, how we managed some situations and successes.

Merry Christmas in advance

God bless you brother, truth is better in some people heart. You don’t want to know how many projects this young man have handled behind the seen. He send many of those crook that will add to measurements to make extra money out of business. Imagine giving someone you never meet millions for months to beat inflation, he execute the job without drama. If money exchange hands with some people here, their thinking is marrying another wife before buying material for job. My advice to those bad belle, rethink if you believe the award in purchase, please go purchase one for yourself, hang it in your office to make you happy. Have a bless week and happy holiday.

money121:
Engr.Ayyub win Nigeria Most Respected CEOs Awards
(Manufacturing-Roofing category)
Dedicated this award to all my Loyal Clients on Nairaland those that Trust me with their Hard earned money!!

Please celebrate me, you make it Happend

HAJJI MUFUTAU thanks for your word of advice daily

Congratulation Ayyub. When you kept promise of business as agreed with people’s money, reward like this will not be hard for you to win.

MMotimo:
Shebi Oyinbo say benefit of doubt, 2 sides to a story
Now we have heard the cut and join explanation

His cut and join explanations don’t make any sense, many of them will be using Sir, before they get the contract as soon they get it part payment made that Sir, immediately becomes mr with small letter. They always forget the guy that gives you job that makes you think you’re rich because he gives you 10 million contracts, can also referred you to his circle that can give you 100 million if you do as expected. Ero ooo, they try to break the glass cup to closed that opportunity just as Mr Okenwa said it’s shameful to read stories like these on this platform. Please don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of good contractors doing great jobs without any drama here.

Successbay:
Good morning Nairalanders,

I made a report about Adedward , an aluminium guy whom I contracted some jobs too since the 6th of August, 2022, based on reaching out to me for assistance and previous work relationship. I remembered quite a number of people on this forum were demanding for his identity and even sent reminders on the status of the job, following a grace period of 1 week after he had delayed for so long to see if he will keep to his promise of completing the job... I was however shocked only two people from the pool of Nairalanders calling for his identity commented on my report/post, quite funny though.. This report was made on this forum on 7th of November, 2022.

Today makes it exactly 127 days after I contracted this job to Adedward and 34 days after I reported him on this platform, with no significant progress made on the job till date.

I remembered him responding to my post, even though some of his allegations were false, I decided not to trade words with him, all I wanted is a completion of the jobs I gave to him in the shortest possible time. He reached out and promised to complete my work within a week of my post.

He came with his apprentice boy afterwards, while I was away in my station outside Lagos, to work on the window nets, he left the boy to do the job. I returned to meet the boy 5 days later, doing nothing after he was partly done with the frame nets which were poorly fixed and uncompleted. The boy was doing nothing, just sleeping and waking up, with my wife taking care of his feeding day and night. He was staying in my BQ. All the while, Adedward refused to show up. Three days after my arrival, I told the boy to leave and return to his boss, since he was literally not doing anything. It was then he told me his oga has instructed him to go get the net materials and that he will be coming with the remaining frames for the window nets. This didn't happen that day and I had to return to my station the next day.

I remembered discussing with him over the phone for the side elbow for the downspout part of the rain water collector, after he told me he was bringing in some boys to complete the rain collector. I even had to send him money for additional 14 Pcs, when he claimed it was not in original calculation, but to my greatest surprise he came around with just 4 Pcs. The boys came and could only do about 10% of the job, cos obviously the rain collector parts he had bought were not complete, as some important parts for joining the gutters were grossly insufficient, in fact the boys complained that the materials were not enough. It was then it dawned on me that he only bought some of the needed materials and dumped them onsite as a pretense that what was left is workmanship.

He, Adedward even came at some time to work on the Toilet doors and did a very bad job of fixing the aluminium doors for the bathrooms, after convincing me to remove 5 ready made doors already installed for the bathrooms, with the promise of giving me better durable aluminium toilet doors. With the exception of the door to the master bedroom which is not completed though, all other doors are with faults, in fact he told me two of the doors can never close except he breaks the already tiled walls for the frames, heaping blames on the tilers and bricklayers, for frames he erected by HIMSELF.

All these were happening, while I was away.. It was very obvious he was avoiding me.. So, last weekend when I was home, I requested to see him unfailingly and he came on Sunday, the 4th of November 2022. I showed him all around the house and expressed my dissatisfaction on the jobs he did for me and why he would leave his boy alone to do the job. Mosquitoes are coming into the house in droves from the side of the net frames, poor quality of window nets used and poor fixation too, the toilet doors are either not completely/badly fixed, the rain collectors is still less than 15% completion, and some joint areas are leaking etc... And of course, still owing me #80,000 refund from the money given to him for the cubicle.. He begged me to give him a week, but I gave him 3 days...

The following day, I didn't travel to my station as expected and waited to see if he will keep to his promise of coming to start the job as promised... Adedward didn't show up till I called him at night, it was then he told me he had a fall from the bike while on his way home and promised to do something about the work the following day...The following day, I called at night again, he said his back was paining him.. asked if he is on admission, he said No, but was taken to an hospital, he doesn't know the name of the hospital and that he did an X-RAY in a Lab , he also doesn't know the name either.. On Thursday, he sent a message that his boy will be coming with the guys to fix the water collector and that he will fix the bathroom doors by himself...

It's a week after his promises, and he has still not shown up..neither his boy nor the water collector guys..


I am sure there are people on this platform that are his friends or close associates, how would you feel if you contracted a job that shouldn't take more than 1 week and it is yet to be completed 127 days (4 months plus and counting) later... long after complete payment and still expecting a refund of #80,000 from the person you gave the job to..

I have exercised more than enough patience and gentleness, and will go through any legal means to retrieve my money from Adedward...

He can hide or run for as long as he wants.. but the law and the works of his hands will catch up with him!

I told him to his face that he, Adedward is not reliable, has no integrity and grossly unprofessional, and it remains so, until proven otherwise!

This is sad, why why making clients go through these every time. Adedward come and defend yourself, one of to many. To many dramas behind the screen, this is how Brabus start oooo.

Beframia:
This is quite sad, I feel your pains my brother. I once had a similar experience such that I had to instruct that a soak-away be broken almost completely after I re-assigned it to another artisan. Since then, I vowed to always be around during any stage of my project. Some of these artisans are heartless and without conscience, they always wish you would just pay them without them offering any service ...as if money easy to get.
You have stalled for too long at this stage for no fault of yours, you are only trying to help someone who obviously is not ready to be helped.
I'm of same opinion as previous commenters, get another artisan to correct and complete your job while you pursue a refund.
All the best.

This is sad, why why making clients go through these every time. Adedward come and defend yourself, one of to many. To many dramas behind the screen, this is how Brabus start oooo.

sonnie10:
I have a business idea I would want share. Critics are welcomed. Just an idea, nothing I have tried.

It is about mobile temporary security remote surveillance for outdoors.
This could be used during events, construction sites, private residences etc.
Equipment needed :
1 About 6meters long poles (Enough quantities to cover all the surrounding areas to be monitored)
2 Cameras mounted on the poles
3 Completed individualized solar set up to power each pole, and the pole attached to a metal box with locks to serve as pedestal for each of poles and to house the solar and internet components
4 Wireless Internet connection
5 Monitor (laptop or tablet for remote active monitoring)
6 A vehicle for the personnel to stay in a remote location during active monitoring and to convey the equipment
7 A cellphone to call and alarm in case of incident
8 Get insurance for the company

Charge like #50k daily
Finally, keep my 10% royalty if things work out well for you.

Good idea, Naija can sale that same idea for you @100k per day. Lol they won’t consider yours for 5k per day. Good luck sha.

babadots:
Spot on. If this is popular in Nigeria, how come the suppliers are not promoting them?

I have been struggling to find the information that you and our other folks on this forum have given in the past couple of days.

I hope we have folks who can also service them as well.

Thank you Engineer Tope, how many units of one of those of Rmx can serve. For example 20 hotel rooms. What is the power consumption capacity one needs to keep them running at least 18 to 20 hours a day. I saw Rmx installed mini transformer in one of his project.