Sloan: And ibos still want to go to another war? If they try another foolish war, that will be the end of anything ibo on this planet! It is simply a case of one war too many!

Your hatred will burn you to your death, nwa nkpi! Can anybody totally eliminate the seeds of God? The Igbo and the Jews suffered the worst forms of ethnic genocide in millions of souls. But today the Igbo are scattered on the face of the earth like the seashore. From across Africa to Asia, Europe, America, Igbo markets are thriving.. Since you and your hausa masters couldn't wipe Igbo out in that civil war 1966-70, you cannot now in a technological age.
My 50 cents

There is no Tony Elumelu in that list. He is a major shareholder in Standard Chatered, later UBA Bank. He is the founder of Heirs Holdings a multi-billion dollar omni-bus conglomerate straddling the African market and the globe in Agriculture, Real Estate, Pharmaceuticals, Oil and Gas and retail trading, with one of the oustanding enterpreneural and academic foundations.

I doubt this list indeed.

seunmsg:

I wish people like Asari Dokubo who have been beating the drum of war can go view the civil war picture archive and see the destruction and carnage that took place then. People who have witnessed real war and the resultant suffering will never wish their country to go through such again. War should never be an option to settle political differences. Nigerians really need to wise up and protect the unity and peaceful coexistence of this country.

What you fail to understand is that every ethnic nationality has inalienable rights to self determination. If not for the quest for revenge and oil, Nigeria would not have bothered to stop Biafra.

There were exercaberting factors to Nigeria's sustenance then, going by the hateful rethorics of leaders in various regions before the conflict. Even now some people are still inflaming passions thinking Nigeria only exists for the few elites. Be that as it may, the lessons of the war is for both the winner and loser.

Fear mongering cannot sustain injustice for too long. Agitators like Asari Dokubo are demanding greater share in their God-given resources. Period. I believe there will be a time soon when nationalities will be allowed to vote for their freedom as Scotland is presently doing in Britain. That may be post-oil Nigeria.

cruise14: It's unfortunate that the refugees back then are now claiming to be the owners of a place once set up as shelter and refugee camp for them.

You are so dunce, so you don't know about the indigenous Igbos, the Aniomas in Delta? Which planet did you fall from that you do not know that Chukwuma Nzeogwu, leader of the first coup and other Biafran commanders such as Col Nwawo, Achuzia are from this vibrant part of Igboland?

Are you ignorant of the fact that the front-runners in next year's governoship election such as Ifeanyi Okowa, Victor Onyedikachi Ochei, Ndudim Elumelu, Ngozi Olejem, Peter Eloka Okocha, Pat Onyedinachi Utomi etc are all from this part?
Smh for dirty ignorance

If the intention is genuine and not to inflame sentiments over the boundary dispute with Anambra, I think it will work.

Kogi has been mentioned severally as a destination for oil refinery depot for North. Remember former NNPC GMD Oniwon wanted to build one their and Bayelsa. IPMAN is proposing one, and Orient Petroleum in Anambra is proposing one there also to service the northern part.

Orient believes a refinery in Kogi will receive badges of crude from the coast for onward refining and distribution to the North though some far north states get oil from Niger and even when they are supplied from Lagos, the pump price is usually cheaper than in SE/SS.

Overall, good idea and kudos to the governor, oldman Idris Wada.

I have often believed those who accuse the present executive of the world football governing body of corruption without proof.

Sunday's finale ceremony proved in seven points all that could go wrong in organising a world cup closing ceremony:

1) CUP LIFTING CONFUSION

The moment of lifting of the trophy by German captain Philip Lahm was a confused, disorganised session with the rest of the squad unaware that the 18 karat gold has been received.

2) TOO MUCH TIME WASTED

If you calculate the time between the final whistle and the time the cup was given, which is 29 mins, showed unnecessary delay never witnessed in World Cup history. It took forever to hand over the trophy. Clear case of poor planning.

3) INDIVIDUAL AWARDS

Pray what was so important in the individual awards that it was so incomplete? Where was James Rodrigues the Golden Boot winner? Why force Messi to shake the hands of dignitories and stand in a two-shot with Manuel Neuer which is was why the chap almost walked away?

THE FARCE OF MESSI WINNING THE BEST PLAYER AWARD

A lot of people, including the man himself were shocked with the Golden Ball award for Lionel Messi. Many had an opinion of who could be more deserving between James Rodriguez, Thomas Muller, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Manuel Neuer, Javier Mascherano, Arjen Robben, Phil Jagielka etc.

AWFUL MUSIC
It was appalling to watch the Germans lift the trophy without a good music to mark the momentous occasion. Couldn't the organisers have gotten a better version of the Pittbull, maybe some JJ Bull edition?

MUST BLATTER and ROUSEFF PRESENT THE TROPHY

Looking at how desperate FIFA President Sepp Blatter struggled to get his hands on the priced ware from FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valke. He then lousily proceeded to give it to Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff. Was the trophy necessary to go that round?

SCARY FLIGHT ATTENDANTS

What were those females with medal trays doing at the dignitories box all day? If this is an attempt to show modernity with females with forced smiles, then the choice of costume should have been better.

manmustwac: I heard on the BBC that the girls escaped while the boko haram went on a mission to attack a military base last friday

BBC and North-- comrades-at-evil. But their game is up! Nobody buying this cheap bullshit, crap!

63 women Usain-bolt the dreaded BH boys unsighted? Let's get real here. No girl/woman is missing anywhere..This is just the usual northern gimmick to blackmail the south into giving up the Presidency. Why let off the women while still holding your girls huugh?


Game up northern leaders!!

anago18:


shut up loser what about the arm invasion of the Enugu government house, ditto for the broadcasting house. you are a dumbskull

Where do you source your own roadside, drinking joint information? So BZM is also MASSOB? This knee-jerk approach is why Nigeria remains under developed even after 100 years of forced amalgamation and civil war brutalisation.

Your type are blinded by their hate and not by reality. Since you are myopically unreal back-off this baseless argument...

anago18:

shut your putrid orifice son, every act of uprising and terrorism should be cut at the bud. before it spiral to anything in the nature of the boko haram insurgency.

save us your balderdash and go get yourself euthanized.

The last time I checked, MASSOB has not indulged in any terrorist activity. I reality, you are the real terrorist here.
Who are you better than among the Massobians? What did your people contribute to the formation of the ramshackle Nigerian federation? MASSOB has existed for over ten years and no single act of terror. Always there refrain has been a peaceful agitation for self-determination for Africa’s most travelled and dispersed group.
Get that into your soured skull….

anago18: why not put em all in a gas chamber.

Unfortunately I've to quote you, but I see barbaric idiocy in your comment. So for exercising their right to agitate fir self determination, they should all be gassed to death?

Which action is criminal? Advocating for Biafra or using Biafran emblems?

You and your ilk with morbid aversion to right to self expression need to be examined...

IgweAni: No be Yoruba man again?

Some of them no get religion na everywhere belle face. Go church, go mosque and still follow sango plus ogun.
lol

Yorubas are wonderful people: they don't have a definite stand on any issue. Always wavering in their positions. There the three religions are one and the same. Even Fashola, a muslim attends my church programmes. Lol!

I just returned from a duty tour of the North West states of Katsina, Zamfara, and Sokoto and can tell authoritatively that they do not have the population anywhere near the Middle Belt not to talk of the entire South.

Most of the hamlets that constitute local govts are virtually filled with few, dispersed and easily numerable mud houses. The rest are open, uninhabited wastelands.

Most of the farming groups are mainly carmel-ridden immigrants from Niger, Chad and Mali and no real indigenous settlements.

This fallacy of a greater northern population has been sustained for too long owing mainly to British manipulation and the civil war conquest of the Igbo nay the south.

Even if the North have the population, must it use that to impose on the resources of others? This is why the South must advocate for equity and justice in this confab. Kudos for agreeing on additional state for south east to bring southern states to 18 as against north's 19 plus FCT. But the north makes insignificant contribution to the revenue of the country.

Its time to shove the burden!

While Section 9 of the CBN Act empowers the President to appoint a CBN governor, it does not give him the corresponding power to remove him.

The gov can onlt be removed on clearly stipulated grounds such as illhealth, unsound mind etc

shymexx:

I'm not going to lie, most times I feel sorry for Igbo's. Greed and the lust for power at all cost would always make you isolated. Sometimes, you just have to play smart. Imagine a big ethnic group second-fiddle to a small group like Ijaw. And there's no love lost between the two groups - despite GEJ's romance with certain Igbo's elements. Perhaps, that's why a lot of them are disenfranchised - and they all run away from home, trying to make it by any means necessary, hence why they're tagged as being industrious. I feel sorry for my Igbo friends.

Anyway, I just want to post something that crossed my mind while watching a movie just now. If the momentum in APC continues the way it's, and Igbo elites think they've lost out completely in the power tussle. I won't be surprised if there's a coup in Nigeria, orchestrated by Igbo's, to get rid of GEJ and put Iherika (COAS) there. They know the Ijaws won't be able to fight back. So they would probably start looking for ways to negotiate how to get back into the power-tussle, with that. Anything is possible. Make sure you bookmark this particular post!

I'm out of NL for a few days.

Shalom!

This post is as always a poisoned chalice from a poisoned, deranged mind.

If Igbo didn't give Jonathan support, they will be traitors and envious oppressors, when they have given full support, they are selling their birthright to a small tribe.

The most ludicrous from the devil's advocate: 'Ihejirika is planning a coup against GEJ!!'

Crappy, GEJ is no fool, neither are the Ijaw. In this Nigerian complex puzzle of a devil's alternative they are aware that the enemy you know is better than the 'sparkling' hypocritical angel you don't know. Stay off the (SS/SE) East for your Info..

Just got this info that the groundnut pyramids of the 50s and 60s were produced in present Benue-Plateau and moved to Kano due to the presence of the northern region Produce Board. Food crops such as yam, cassava, maize, rice; and fruits like oranges, pineapples, tomato etc can all do very well in middle belt states of Nasarawa, Niger, Benue, Plateau, Taraba, Kogi. This belt also has huge deposits of solid minerals. Crops that do well in arid region like sorghum, millet ,and cotton can be is available in NW/NE.

GEJ has revived more dams for irrigation farming in the core North than any other govt in history.

cheruv:
Forgive me for two things
1)Inability to quote your whole post[to avoid people thinking the guy is talking BS]
2)My ignorance on the fact you're an ijo chauvinist(I think nationalist is a better tag)
Frater...there's no need arguing over this or that kos all we've to do is look at the facts which includes maps to backup or refute our claims
The Ekpeyes as everybody knows is an igboid clan(anywhere they claim descent from isn't my concern) that inhabit the area around ahoada.the two LGs(east & west) belongs exclusively to them.this is also why in the Rivers province(before independence),Ahoada division contained all Igboid parts of the province excluding oyigbo which was part of ukwa division before being annexed to rivers in 1976.even maps support this fact which leaves me wondering where the ijos of Ahoada west are
Concerning the bonny and opobo issues,I've dwelt extensively on them so there's no need repeating myself so that peeps won't think you're hard at learning.moreover I've this feeling you don't know what CREOLE means
As per PH matter,I'd leave that to the ikwerres kos both cartographically and otherwise,the land is theirs.they call it igweocha(white cliffs if am correct) though the Brits called it after a gentleman,Sir Harcourt.what dd the ijos call the area?[Educate me]
From your posts,your arguements are based on emotions which is quite understandable from a chauvinist like you,though I'd prefer facts from a cool headed gentleman.
You can still dispute the facts I presented for the Treasure base if you're not yet satisfied with my assertions

Its Ugwuocha- Igbo for whiteman's hill. Was very popular emerging town among pre-colonial Igbos...

kel4soft:

How does Igbo history relates to Ikwerre denouncing their lineage to Igbo? They have identify with the Benins as the link provided to you. Does it mean, Benin are Igbos?

I agree that different Ikwerre clans lay claims to different sources of migration prominent of which are Arochukwu and Benin, that does not detract from their Igboness.
No scholarly work has shown the intelligibility of Ikwerre and any Edoid language. When Ikwerre say Eze, it has no bearing in Benin language relative to their royalty. In fact the day my Ikwerre friends tell me Duncan Mighty's song: Ako n'uche has no similar meaning in central Igbo, only then will I condone their nauseating denial epidemic.

kel4soft: OP is drunk as usual.

Oyigbo, Etche, Omuma and ONELGA (though Ogba claim they migrated from Benin, that's why they have Oba of Ogbaland) are 90% Igbos which doesn't even give you 15% of Rivers population.

The Ikwerres (PHALGA, OBALGA, KELGA and EMOLGA) has also claim they originate from the Ekpeye and Ogba ancestry all traced to Benin. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikwerre_people

So, OP your fact that Rivers State is 80% Igbos doesn't hold water.

mpetent/

You expose ignorance of Igbo history. You don't know that there is no singular migration. The Igbo story is one of different migratory accounts. Archaeological finds show that the Igbo areas of Nri and Nsukka have been inhabited for over 5,000 years. And these are where various Igbo groups departed in search of better environment and re-routed to their present locations. This could explain why the progenitors of the various Igbo clans and ethnic blocs bore Igbo names.

Eluwa in his book: 'Ado-Na-Idu: History of AIaigbo Origin', shows why cultural and linguistic differences. The people Aniomas (Delta Igbo) Onitsha, Ikwerre, Ogba, Ndoni etc claim to have migrated along with the Edo, hence the cultural and lingual similarities.

The Nsukka Igbo, Ezza etc claim to have migrated through present-day Benue State.

The Ogboos-Ohafia, Abiriba etc trace their root to Biase in present Biase Cross River.

Look at what Wikipedia says about the Ikwerre:
"The Ikwerre people are of Nigerian Igbo extraction. This is an unnecessarily debated point which has no economical or present-day relevance. Scholars believed the then Ikwerre dwellers refuted their origin of being Igbo as an escape strategy from the Nigerian Army during the Biafrian Civil War. A claim which was supported by Ikwerre being recognized as a separate group only in the Nigerian Constitution after the Civil war and in 1979."

The classification of Ikwerre as an Igbo dialect is a subject of controversy among some in the Ikwerre community. Most publications classify it as an Igboid language. Based on lexicostatistical analysis, Kay Williamson originally asserted that the Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba, Etche and Igbo languages belonged to the same language cluster, but were not dialects.[3] Subsequent studies by both Williamson and Roger Blench concluded that Igbo, Ikwerre, Ogba and their sister languages apart from Ekpeye form a "language cluster" and that they are somewhat mutually intelligible.[4] There are indications that the Ikwerre society was bilingual even in the pre-colonial Nigeria, with people speaking other Igbo dialects and Ikwerre.

me_for_you: Obigbo in rivers state is a 100% igbo town which wicked yorubas renamed oyigbo

You are correct, when Adekunle's 3rd marine commandos arrived Igbo speaking areas of present Rivers and whipped their asses and defences, in the push to 'Igbo heartland', they had to accept they are non Igbo to avoid the fate that befell their brothers in starvation.

The challenge is reorienting them now, because a whole new generation of these Rivers indigenes face serious emotional and psychological identity dysfunctional syndrome-always on the defensive- aggressively charging at other Nigerians in their denial of not being Igbo.

When other Nigerians encounter them in training colleges, offices and businesses, they only but feel pity for their dual/split identity-perceived Igbo but claims 'minority' all because of belonging to oil states.

This situation would have befallen the Aniomas- until their elders decided to support their racial kith and kins because their son Nzeogwu had a hand in the whole crisis. They paid the price-yes-in Asaba massacre by Murtala's troops, but they have put that in their stride and moved on. Today even with low oil resources, Delta Igbo account for three of Nigeria' top 10 richest citizens: Jim Ovia, Tony Elumelu and Peter Eloka Okocha.

My brothers, we need to reorientate our kiths in Rivers with the Igbo historical works such as T. Basden, Kenneth Dike, Elizabeth Isichei etc. We know the likes of Elechi Amadi- who made his name on the back of Igbo/Ikwerre history is part of the seeds of discord. If Obi Wali, Francis Ellah, Eze Rebisi and Eze Nwuche of Ekpeye were to have been alive and strong they won't allow this barefaced erosion of cultural ties to continue.

5.00GP:



IF OKPARA DID ALL WHAT U ENUMERATED ABOVE, WHY IS IT THAT THE IGBO WANDER ABOUT ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH FROM LAGOS IN NIGERIA TO ALL AFRICA COUNTRIES , EUROPE COUNTRIES....


OKPARA, AZIKWE, OJUKWU HAS DOOMED ALL IBO PEOPLE FUTURE

Why are the Isreali Jews scattered all over the world? Why are they going back to the commercial industrial complexes of eastern Europe where millons were gassed to death?

How are the Isreali managing this? Not everything should be said in a public forum.

Omo_Tier1: Breeze don blow... fowl yansh don open As my people will say....

Any sane Nigerian would tell you that Nigeria does not need any conference, all Nigeria and Nigerians need is MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT. The money is there, the people are there, the market is available. So what is preventing us from implementing simple policies to revamp the economy?

The N7bn to be wasted for this conference as budgeted for in the 2014 budget estimate, would that money not have been better spent if 20 Mega model schools were built with two in each of the zones in the country?

Sometimes, you cannot but wonder if GEJ is truly a PhD holder

Look at who is questioning GEJ's qualification. Has any leader in Nigeria surpassed his achievements?

What they taught you at school is to continue using same method even without results?

As for us, we were taught to try other methods. And Nigeria has been selling crude oil, budgeting trillions annually without comensurate development. So why not re-jig the base and the superstructure? Shouldn't we restructure to allow regions pursue their cultural, religious, historical and social values?

The Ndigbo has a blueprint in Ahiara Declaration- to curb corruption, rebuild infrastructure, industrialise-with exports and create jobs for the youths- a little Japan. So stop this hubristic myopia.

kel4soft: With the derivation from Agriculture proceed accrued to them pre-state era i.e during regional government.

Why Awolowo was busy developing the Western and mid-western region with University and free education and creating institutions for them. Our so called leaders (Eastern region) then was busy collecting tax and oppressing the minorities (Ijaws, Ikwerres Efik etc). They made sure the minorities suffer. When my Grand Dad, a fisherman then, sail all day and night only for him to be apprehended by this selfish leaders at the shores for unnecessary tax without providing any amenities.

Awolowo helped in establishing the University of Ibadan in 1948, it took Azikiwe and Co more than 15years after to established a University in the eastern region, even later than Ahmadu Bello University.
They seized all our lands in Port Harcourt, imposing heavy fines on our people.

They (Zik and cronies) only developed the Igbo region ala Enugu. Citing all FG structures there. PH and the rest were left to the mercies of God. Untill Gowon created Rivers State in 1967. Your Azikiwe made sure the minorities suffered for been part of you people.
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Have you heard of the biggest African palm research institute in Biase, Obudu Cattle Ranch, Metropolitan Hotel-all in Cross River State, University of Calabar? These legacies will always commend Okpara.

And how is it possible that only the minorities were compelled to pay tax in eastern region? Why have the so called minority states, with allocations two times bigger than that of the entire SE still unable to lift their people out of poverty? You see why some of us are advocating an eastern renewal- not necessarily to re-unite SS/SE- but just to clear some of these false indoctrinations.

I am really supporting GEJ, but I would like to watch the fire after APC takes over power and begin to revise these fat oil derivation allocations, PIB, Amnesty allocations, and oil blocks license rounds. I was part of the state-wide outcry in Akwa Ibom when Obj re-introduced offshore-onshore oil dichotomy. And a repeat is inevitable after Boko Haram has been sold to the Americans as a product of poverty and lesser oil revenue in North relative to SS bogus allocations.

Some of our brothers in SS are too myopic, brainwashed and wired from childhood to grope in Igbophobia. Half education is dangerous. Tufiakwa!

ckkris: It is also time to
STUDY how Nigerian troops fared in Liberia and Siera Leone, why and how did Nigeria lost too many soldiers, including a Brigadier General. Who were their commanders? If we know so much of General Patton's command in Europe during WW2, its good to know about General Domkat Bali.
Now one is doubt of the competence of General Godwin Alabi-Isama

I read what General Akirinade said about him. He narrowly escaped that operation through the Onne port which led to the death of 3000 federals in one day.

Now what is he bleeping about in his book? He should also be grateful to Col Achuzia and his Biafran troops for sparing him alive somewhere at Nkpor shortly before the cessation of hostilities.

Is it frustration of being left out of the spoils of victory, with Obj and Danjuma etc taking the garlands? May be he would go to his grave with these regrets because he can't turn the hands of the clock.Gen Adekunle, Oluleye etc were also left to rot in penury for their troubles..

saintneo: Who built Presidential Hotel PH? Who constructed the Trans-Amadi Industrial layout? My memories are kinda vague.

Even my grandfather, a palmwine tapper/seller paid taxes and mehn suffering no be small thing. If only Enugu was developed, how come my father and his mates could not afford to pay their school fees? Why was it that most families in Igbo land usually had one educated person only during this period?

Kel4soft, you don dey make me vex seriously. I expect you to attack the corrupt mindset of our past leaders instead of the entire ndi Igbo.






BTW, I know this thread will hit FP.

Even the Metropolitan Hotel Calabar, Obudu Cattle Ranch and numerous other achievements by Okpara govt.

Btw, this OP accepted East exists.

Onlytruth:

What you are doing in Nairaland will eventually fetch Ijaw that confrontation.
It is either you hate Ijaw with a passion or you are really a very DUMB Ijaw.

My bro, I also doubt he is Ijaw. If he is then I guess he is a caged ijaw supremacist on the loose. And just like a loose cannon, he is firing on all cylinders-wired by a high dose of anti-igbo indoctrination. We know his type. Fortunately, this President has been very fair to Ndigbo and an appreciative people have responded in kind.

But such paranoid misanthropes can only do more harm to the president by cutting him off from the remaining vestiges of support he still musters in this country, God forbid.

in the present condition, it will be wrong to call for a 'sovereign' conference. On what document/legitimacy will the President and NASS stand in convoking the conference? I thought these are elected officials whom people have delegated their sovereignty to? Except there's a revolution overthrowing the present order, I don't think we can make a constitution outside the NASS.


Again it should not be based on ethnicity. Which ethnic nationalities are we talking about? How many ethnicities are in Nigeria? If all attend won't it be recipe for chaos?

Let our elders accept things as they are and go to the conference on a unified agenda, hopefully they will score some points with SW and SS. At least the Yoruba will equally be voting for decentralisation of power- the only issue is how to scale the NW and NE who have created more LGs and constituencies for themselves.

If much is not achieved as desired by the south, the only option will be forceful change or hope for oil impact in the economy to diminish for freedom to come. When will that be? Two years, three years? Not sure...

in the present condition, it will be wrong to call for a 'sovereign' conference. On what document/legitimacy will the President and NASS stand in convoking the conference? I thought these are elected officials whom people have delegated their sovereignty to? Except there's a revolution overthrowing the present order, I don't think we can make a constitution outside the NASS.


Again it should not be based on ethnicity. Which ethnic nationalities are we talking about? How many ethnicities are in Nigeria? If all attend won't it be recipe for chaos?

Let our elders accept things as they are and go to the conference on a unified agenda, hopefully they will score some points with SW and SS. At least the Yoruba will equally be voting for decentralisation of power- the only issue is how to scale the NW and NE who have created more LGs and constituencies for themselves.

If much is not achieved as desired by the south, the only option will be forceful change or hope for oil impact in the economy to diminish for freedom to come. When will that be? Two years, three years? Not sure...

[quote author=ijaw Citizen, As president of Nigeria, Dr. Jonathan choose to be fair to all sections of the country thru his developmental projects, I'm happy at the level of jubilation & appreciation from the SE but online ragworms like you are using in against the president by portraying him as a sectional leader, a false idea the opposition & anti-Jonathan elements are willing and ready to buy any time.

Jonathan did not became president by Igbo votes alone, but by the votes of ALL NIGERIANS, some in the North even defied the threat of death by Islamist to vote for Jonathan, so the Igbo claim of being the PILLAR OF JONATHAN ADMINISTRATION is really petty & shameful of a people who simply found REDEMPTION from my Ijaw people they do looked upon with disdain not long ago.

For the records, you guys are harming the presidency of my Ijaw brother by ur uncouthed statements which has since become characteristic of Igbos.

My riverine brothers don't understand the dynamics of Nigeria. So its the Igbo who are harming GEJ's govt not Boko Haram and sectional/religious opposition? What is wrong with, the Igbo, a people who have suffered injustice for long to celebrate their breather under a new order of equal development? Remember the Igbo celebrated the emergence of Peter Odili, Omehia and Amaechi as governors in Rivers. We are looking forward to an Utomi or Okowa for Delta state. It is good to fight all forms of injustice. If you have the investments and numbers, will you root for someone who will destroy you?


And who told you the Ijaw has a defined geographical cluster to form a country? Except you move all to Bayelsa, there are Ijaw fishing settlements off the coasts of Rivers, AKS, Delta and Ondo, and in some areas like Opobo and Bonny, its difficult to distinguish the Igbo and Ijaw because of long cohabitation. But I don't see how all these groups in the SS will live together with Ijaw supremacists because in numbers the Igbo and Ibibio are more in the SS.

Let me tell you GEJ is of God, nothing can destroy his mission- not the North or Igbo or Yoruba.

ijaw citizen: You sir, are living in a skewd reality which in essense is not reality.

Bayelsa is not in the East and never will be. Even at the division of Nigeria, nobody has the might to draft us to a "east". President Jonathan NEVER said he came from the "east"

Your assertion that 50% of Ijaw were birthed by Igbo mother makes me doubt your maturity & ur mental state/stability. So you just manufacture figures like you manufacture babies at Igboland's baby factories?

The Western world you're refering to knew the Niger Delta and traded with its city-states for centuries before an eastern Nigeria was created. So my friend, Niger Delta takes preemminence over ur most cherished east. You can not cow us under any form of magic or spell to be easterners, we know our identity, we know who we are.

You really sound childish when you declare that "most of SS REMAIN east" as if you have the power.

Why don't you go and tell the Israelis that they "REMAIN" Palestinians? Pls proceed to Ukraine, Georgia and others that they "REMAIN" USSR/Soviets.

Yeye dey smell.

I would not like to join issue in the attack and mudslinging you posted here, but read this post to the end and see what Jonathan said about the eastern region:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/09/jonathan-ibb-atiku-woo-ndigbo-in-usa/

And its unfortunate you will deny the maternity of some of these 'Ijaw' so unfortunate- this is a fact that we have been told and seen consistently. Even first lady Dame Patience has her family house in Afougiri Umuahia.

Sloan: Why are ibos all going mad over the political strategies of one man Tinubu, who happens to be Yoruba and not caring about what they would do? This is really a stup.id position of people like Exeife and his ibos! Tinubu and his Yoruba people have now successfully built 4 political parties now since the past 15 years (4th republic ALONE) and since then ibos have not built even one successful party! PDP was and is still controlled by powers of which ibo is not one of them! APGA is a dead party and only surviving on the bigotry of the ibos in voting, but a people who have turned building bridges, alliances and political behemoths into an art form or science are the ones Exeife is advising? What an irony? If you had all these "wise" advice, how come it has not benefitted any of the ibos, not even Ojukwu the best ibo man that ever lived, flew APGA flag in 2003 and got about 2 % of the total national vote? Can someone tell Exeife - physician, heal theyself? ibo heal thyself!

I am a Christian and I have not one atom of reservation about anyone who is a Muslim! The people who create problem in Nigeria are not exclusively muslims and an extremist is an extremist not because he is a muslim otherwise, ALL moslems will be terrorists! By the same token, if all christians were as perfect as some ibos like to boast of how 99% of ibos are christians, their land should be the biblical paradise on earth! Point is, can you people see the common humanity in you first before thinking of how you serve God or the version you believe in? By all means, I believe in God and Christ, nothing will change that but in as much as no one will force me to change, why should I force another person to change or act in a certain way because my beliefs are different??

Yorubas for generations have always been very religious people, even before Christianity and Islam! With a history spanning 500+ years of empire building with wars lasting scores of years at a time, it is very easy to see why they've seen it all - practically! We are comfortable with dealing with all humans from everywhere and this is not a myth, it is reality. If Tinubu and his lieutenants seek a broader political alliance or coalition, how is that a problem? When ACN swept most of the West and Edo State, people said well, ACN is a Western party, though Edo State is politically SS (yes I admit it was part of the Old West and they are close cousins of the Yorubas). Then, ibos did not see religion as something to cry about but oh, it is a Yoruba party! Well, every great thing starts small and a party will not be any different! Next, they sought alliance first time with ANPP, it was too close to the elections and it didn't workout very well, but then never giving up, they gave it a better shot now being more successful than they would have been even in 2007 and what are ibos saying now? The newly formed APC is now an a religious (Islamic) party, how does that make sense? The people working hard are not stopping you from forming your own party but you care more about their own work and effort? In the same APC, there are Muslim and Christian governors and leaders and APC did not choose their religious beliefs for them, why are ibos always playing in the gutter like pigs with these kind of thinking?

Nigeria is not doing well, you sit and complain about it all day but some people are doing something about it while you want to keep the status quo, is it better they fold their arms and do nothing as you are today? Next, ibos say APC are a party of no principles (I wonder how they know that, being as the party manifesto which will espouse their official position is not yet released), but pray, what is the principle of the PDP? Or, do you only ask about principle when you are on the losing side and your opponent is putting your party to flight in less than 1 year of registration? If the APC is a northern and western party, then the PDP is an ibo and ijaw party, so what you accuse others of doing, you started doing it before they were registered, is that not so? Whatever success PDP enjoyed in the past was not due to one iota of effort or brilliance of any ibo man or woman alive but down to the leadership at those times and they were either Westerners, Northerners, never ibo! The only single time an Ijaw man with mostly ibos have inherited a party they had no idea how it was built, they've crashed in less than 2 years! This is why the PDP is dead and dying more and more: the people who put themselves at the helm have no idea on how it was built, fed or oiled to be politically successful! Juxtapose that with the APC, you will see that the leadership of that party has built way too many political parties, all from nothing, do you see the list? AD, AC, ACN, ANPP, CPC, APC! And all those parties have been more successful than APGA has ever been! The only party that ibos ever had control of to a larger extent was the NCNC, again this party was built by a Yoruba man, Herbert Macaulay (its first president) and he handed it over to Azikiwe just before he passed on only for the party to be destroyed with tribalism!

In summary, Exeife and ibos, give your advice to yourself! Every part of Nigeria that will always look down on ibos from a political standpoint because you have no pedigree or class for leadership, politics, economics, development, long term vision, a stable hand at the helm of leadership, etc so your advise is seen easily as a trojan horse! ibos hate muslims, Yorubas accept Christians and Muslims and even those who believe in traditional religions and in fact those who choose not to believe in anything and so far, they are far more successful than you, so your advise is useless and pointless!

Is a betrayal of petty and biased lenses. To say that PDP- an idea conceived by Dr Alex Ekwueme-led G-34, which was hijacked and bastardised by a vendetta-chasing, freed prisoner Obasanjo was founded by yoruba and hausa is, in the least, disengenious.

Its now revised that the Yoruba that were actively involved in anti-state activities over Abiola's mandate with NADECO, OPC and AD fully in the opposition, which caused the round and totally rejection of Obj in the 1999 election, are today founders of PDP- in the gospel according to sloan.

So Igbo cannot run a party? When Ogbulafor pointed out the zoning principle to Nigerians in the Igbo principle of justice- you watched him removed and mocked him since he is Igbo ditto Nwodo, now you turn back to whine that Igbo are voting for sentiments after they pitched their tent in PDP- and for strategic reasons retaining APGA. And which of the party's was run successfully by Tinubu except grabbing power via the law court using taxes from oil Coys headquartered in Lagos, instead of the ND where the operations, to settle?

You forget that the Igbo is just too big for a single Yoruba to coarse into any unprofitable alliance- to be enslaved. Please bury your sentiments and let the SE and SS to remain in PDP until their son completes his term(s)- after all the ethnic bandwagon card has always been played by Yoruba and Hausa in the name of 'political sophistication' while Igbo are mocked when different individuals express the right to aspire to an office- not anymore .

We know that before long Afenifere will call the bluff of Tinubu and settle for a decentralised Nigeria supporting GEJ to see off his term in a weak centre. Before then Tinubu will run to GEJ for an understanding to retain his five states-Ondo is LP/PDP- and allow the people make their choice in the presidential election. I can assure it won't be to a gambari- certainly not now even though some wants to serve on!