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ArewaNorth:
https://dailytrust.com/running-mate-youre-a-betrayal-of-highest-order-edwin-clark-others-attack-okowa

No need to worry about Okowa
He is destined to flop with Atiku in 2023. PDP made the greatest mistake of their lives in returning a customer da-da-ni in the person of Atiku and then snubbing Wike to select Okowa

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, except a man be born-again, he cannot gain access into the Kingdom of God to begin with. So all those who enter into the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world, all believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life and are born-again..

Now, Jesus Christ also explained to us that in order to enter into the Kingdom of God access is granted via one of two gates
▪︎ the Broad gate which leads to destruction aka Hell(eternal damnation
▪︎ the Narrow gate which leads to True Life aka Heaven(eternal reward)
He, of course urged that you enter through the Narrow Gate - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 5 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 28

Then the same Jesus Christ tells you in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, that when He returns, He will judge all those He raises and delivers them by His Judgement into either of Heaven or Hell, both of which are part of the Kingdom of God which He is King and ruler over..

Sir I ask u for the LAST time wot is proof that UNBELIEVERS HAVE NO PLACE IN HELL?

Kobojunkie:
1. Yes, those who don't believe in God are unbelievers.

2. If you also read what the same Jesus Christ said to you in other parts of the Gospel, you get a better idea of what He is telling you there in Mark 16 of what it means to believe.
Those who outright reject God as Adam did have already been judged and condemned by God since the time of Adam in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22, not by Jesus Christ. The same reject Jesus Christ and hence remain damned by God's Judgment in Genesis 3 vs 16.

How does all these prove UNBELIEVERS HAVE NO PLACE IN HELL?

PeaceJoyLove:
On top a claim only you saw. On top a claim that only you knkw that you went to hell. Scientists that go to moon, show us proof. But you went to your hell in your way..


Enough with your stupid.dity and your disgusting and irritating hell fire visitation. If you like choose to be Jesus who refused to jump....or be like the Hebre boy who choose to take the risk. Whatever you choose...that's your cup of tea....but every scenario needs wisdom.

Like I said...feel free to put down your head also. I will chop it off without feeling remorseful and collect your blood for making a special wine. I know for sure you will not be able to prove anything.....so, your head will make a nice meal for vultures in the forest. First, they will peck out your eyes from their sockets. Lol..

Goodluck!

Foul mouthed idiot
Full of curses to hide ur latent stupidity. U are not as bright or rational as u assume.
By the way nobody has ever gone to the moon. 4get about the Apollo gimmick. It was film trick
Bye bye finally

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Kobojunkie:
Bad People
▪︎ Unbelievers have no place in hell since they do not believe in God and are instead condemned to die according to God's dictate in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22. They cease to exist when they die - "from dust you were made and to dust you return whe you die."

▪︎ Sinners/transgressors of God's New Covenant Law , Jesus Christ, are born-again hence they are those who will end up in Eternal damanation aka Hell when they die.

UNBELIEVERS HAVE NO PLACE IN HELL?
I tot those who don’t believe in Jesus are the UNBELIEVERS?
Mark 16:15-16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
THEN Howcome Jesus said here, dat UNBELIEVERS will be DAMNED?

Kobojunkie:
What part of what I stated do you not understand?

▪︎ The condemnation of sin aka Death is as stated by God in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22. It refers to God's judgement against mankind for the sins of Adam. All who are born into this world are born under the curse.

▪︎ those who go on to believe in God particularly through Jesus Christ, are given a chance at redemption from the curse aka Salvation from the condemnation of sin so they no longer perish but have eternal life..

Wot I don’t understand?
Well how does all this talk of urs contribute to the topic WILL BAD PEOPLE BURN IN HELL?

PeaceJoyLove:
Whether you prefer to speak philosophically or not, the highlighted part says it all. What you believe is for you, and only for you alone. And it's ok that you call yourself a fool for not believing what you saw. Afterall, you are the fool in the this scenario if you dont believe since we are being specific. Only you knows what you saw, how you saw it, and when you saw it. I do not want to argue with you how you reached your hell since only you knows how. But one thing is sure, if I tell you to narrated it and prove it right that it is true that what you saw was real, you will start saying bla bla bla bla. Anyway, we shouldn't go into that. My point remains same...what you believe is for you alone. And it is why you used the sentence..."for me". Logically, what is only for you is not the general truth. So, keep what you believe to yourself alone and above it your as..s. Stop forcing it on others.

Goodluck!

As u wish
In conclusion. Spiritual realities are meant to be believed. If u believe, no prove is necessary. If don’t believe, no prove is sufficient.
All the healings Jesus performed were all doubted by the Pharisees.
Till dis day, many still doubt the reality of Jesus Christ. Yet, we all MUST take responsibility for wot we believe. The need for the right belief can therefore not be over-emphasized

PeaceJoyLove:
But you read everything na....so my talk dey sweet you....stop pretending boy.


Hmmm...you know you have just made a point here.

I brought up the part in Revelation where end-time Christian are encouraged to lose their lives. Even Jesus encouraged his followers to lose it, and He promised theywill regain it through Him.

And here, you have a point where Jesus Himself decided not to lose his life. Hmmmm.

Guy, use your head when you read the Bible. Do not just take everything you are taught. There are contradictions here, but not really, if you can mediate very well. Jesus decided to ignore Satan for a purpose. And really, I do not expect the boys to put down their heads if they are smart cos I am going to chop them off. Believe me!!!

See...the same word Satan and Jesus used during his temptation was right and just. The same word was what Satan quoted for Jesus that his angels shall pick him up. Are we saying that the devil was wrong to have said so?

Now, think about it... are you saying Shadrach, Meshach and Abegnigo were stupid for not bowing to the the figure put down by the King? Did they not try committing the suicide you have just brought up?

Bro, you have brought something up again which supports my ideology that your faith is who you are. And look at the highlight part... you repeated it as a course you believe in.

The question you need to answer here...and please, let us forget about the "die die" or cutting of head issue... Is a course you believe in necessarily the real truth?

Please, in all honesty, answer the highlighted part.

By the way, you need to be able to talk if you want to discuss with me cos I am not a dummie....I don't just take people's words....I reason the words in my head. Anyway...kindly answer the highlighted part.

I prefer specifics.
I believe in hell. Is my course in dat regard NECESSARY the truth?
1. For me. I have been to hell. Only a fool will doubt wot he sees, as seeing is believing. I need no further persuasion

Kobojunkie:
Did Moses not believe in God? Was Moses not also promised Life(eternal) under God’s Old Covenant Law, the Constitution of the state of Israel which God gave to the descendants of Jacob in the Kingdom of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20?

The condemnation of sin is God’s curse - Genesis 3 vs 16 -22 - on all the unbelievers aka those who don't believe in God. Those who believe in God are not condemned but under God's Law.

Am not sure I know exactly wot u are talking about
Galatians 3:13-14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Jesus was cursed

Kobojunkie:
That is a bloody lie!

Adam and Eve perished aka ceased to exist just as God said they would - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 - unless ofcourse you believe God to be a liar .

After Moses had died in Deuteronomy, he was seen on the Mt. of transfiguration talking to Jesus

Mark 9:4-5
And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

PeaceJoyLove:
You are really arguing upside down indeed. Wow! Funny. Nope, I wont show you that I can axe his head by putting my own head against the wall so you can axe it into two which is thebmost stupid way anyone can bring up. Wow! See reasoning. For what? The measure are different. Use your head. Use your brain ...don't just talk.

The idea is that if something is sure, you can put your life on it. That's the standard. So, how is my flexing irrationing and stupidly related to the main point. You just want to bring a stupid measure here. Wow. Na so you dey reason? No wonder you cant reason after life things....wow!!! Telling me the above is not in the same metric. The measure you want is to show you if I can cut his head. So, bring me the axe and see. Let either of them accept the challenge first, then wait and see if I will axe it or not. Now, here is the thing....if they fail the test and I fail to axe it...that's when you can get your own chance. Not that I will stupidly put mine down. Let me fail first before you show yours.

Go to school and learn how to reason logically. This way you have reasoned is like you are a dummie. I had to go through it to explain it to you. If you still dont understand it and you still want to argue, then, I suggest you get someone else to explain it to you.

You dull small. Next time, reason along the logic. Use the same metric to measure the discuss, and not just bring a new factor.

Na waooo. This is why politicians just push people around. Also, how will this kind not just take the words of pastorpreneurs the way he receives it. Wow! See reasoning...no flow of logic. And the funny issue is that you will still not understand the flow, and you will return to still show your stu.pidity. lol. If you cannot even reason along a logic, how can you understand after-life discussions?

Guy, go to better school ooooo so you just dont open your mouth anyhow.

Anyway, if you really want to prove that I cannot axe it...then, feel free to find your loved one and bring his head on a table. Let me be able to prove the person wrong....and then, wait if I dont chop it off. If possible.....if the person fails...give me the right to chop his head and yours....see... I will bring along 50 liters keg to collect your blood. Na two people oo. Nice wine in the house. And two heads for the vultures in the forest. Bring your heads first if you are sure there is hell.

U talk too much.
Giving up life for a course u believe in is not synonymous to suicide
Ur argument is similar to the devil urging Jesus to jump down from a high tower if indeed He is the son of God.

SenatePresdo:
God creates people inside womb? I thought Adam and eve was the last thing God created, and then rested on the 7th day?

Did he later continue creating?
I thought he said Adam and even should Go into the world and multiply? Why then did you say he's still creating people inside womb?

So people that was born lame, deaf, blind and imperfect, you are insinuating its God that creates them imperfect like that? Is he an imperfect God?

U mistaking PROCREATION for CREATION. Science has yet to understand how a baby is formed in the womb! How can u be responsible for a process u don’t comprehend?
“But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto and I work.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:17‬ ‭DARBY‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/478/jhn.5.17.DARBY
God never cease creation. Procreation is just a privilege to cooperate with God in the creation process by supply raw materials for the body by the parents
Isaiah 42:5 says God is the one dat supply SPIRIT to ALL dat walk on the earth
Isaiah 57:16 says God made ALL SPIRITS and SOULS
Ecclesiastics 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.
Then Zachariah 12:1 say God FORMETH the SPIRIT of man within him
Where there is defects and deformities it’s definitely the fault of the parents and not God

SenatePresdo:
If many things are beyond human knowledge, how then are you as a human, certain that people's soul would burn in hell fire?

If you say its because it was written in the Bible, then who wrote the Bible? Still humans?

If you say it was inspired by the Holy spirit, then why didn't the Holy spirit inspire them to tell us where we are before we came here?

U were created by God in ur mothers womb.
B4 den u were nowhere
“The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus saith Jehovah, who stretcheth out the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him:”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭12:1‬ ‭DARBY‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/478/zec.12.1.DARBY

PeaceJoyLove:
Now, you see... you cannot honestly say with your whole heart that you are sure your position is 100% the truth. If you are, you will put down your head on the table and ask me chop it off your body.

I am not ready to start quoting anything. Dont get me wrong...and I don't want atheist to use my post to tackle you....I believe in God. See... I hold my faith also, and I will not come out bold 100% to say it is the way, and the only way, because I cannot prove anything physically. My proof is inside. I can also discuss it with you and we can grow together in it.

The Bible you are citing can be tackled.

1. The garden of Eden is still a mystery we are trying to unravel; though, there are evidences pointing us to the fact that it truly exists.

2. A talking donkey is a mystery. There is no way we can prove that.

3. Crossing the red sea seems to be found only in the Bible. No other historical book recorded it. Are we saying that there aren't other people apart from the Jews that were around at that time?

4. I can go on and on.

The above are what we can still say we can prove because they are said to have happened on earth. Now, you want to put something that will happen after life as the real thing that will happen. No one can be sure. Absolutely no one. So, preach your faith with caution. That is what you believe, and you are entitled to it.

Is there hell? Is there no hell? Is there heaven? Is there no heaven? Wow! These are afterlife issues many have been trapped in. Why focus too much on these issues when you can simply just obey the laws of being a good citizen? And then if your faith says you should follow the ways of Jesus, follow them. But coming out boldly to say what you believe about after life based on a verse (with different translation) may be too dangerous.

OK. If you say hell is unreal, what can you say about the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Jesus himself narrated the story in the Bible. You left the real story Jesus narrated, and you decided to pick other verses. Ok. Tell me...is the story of Lazarus and the rich man a parable or what? And give me proofs to back up your position.

Do not be like the Jehovah Witnesses. Go and ask Max how I tackled him one time. He also cannot prove many things. His faith is his faith, and no one can take it away from him. His faith is who he is. And I respect him for who he is, but coming here to say his faith is superior without being able to prove the superiority is my issue with him. How can anyone prove things which will happen after life?

No one can prove the rapture also. Also, those talking about secret rapture cannot prove it too. I remember the Adventist lady here who was always writing in affirmative tone like she knows it all. I mean, how can one sound so sure of what is happening after life. Wow.

You need to be really careful.

I am asking you again...if you are sure your position is the truth......please, put your head on the table so I can chop it off. See, we will call philosophers who will disprove your analysis. And believe me, I will remove your head with all pleasure and serve it to vultures in the forest.

Mumbo jumbo
How can u be 100% sure u will cut off his head wen he puts it on d table?
If u are sure u wud, show by putting ur head against the wall, so I axe it into two!
People can argue upside down!

luluosas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7rv3HllDWc



Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/veteran-edo-musician-osayomore-joseph-dies/amp/

May his soul Rest In Peace.
He was very talented like Sunny Ade and Ebenezer Obe. RIP

Ibomrep:
The death knows nothing at all. They are unconscious, can't feel pains.

Ecclessiates 9:5,9,10
Psalms 88:10
Psalms 115:17
Psalms 146:4
Isaiah 38:18
John 11:11


Is there any hope for our love ones that died?
Will we ever see them again?
Where will billions of resurrected people live - in Heavens or on Earth?
Will sufferings, death,pains, war, corruption, hatred ever end?

You can read more about this and many more on www.jw.org

Lies
Matt 17:1-3
1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him
Moses and Elijah though dead yet speak
Abel though dead still speak. The dead can therefore speak and feel

anonymuz:
common grave of mankind. HADES or SHEOL

Mankind has NO COMMON GRAVE
That phrase is a meaningless one invented by spiritual conmen

Pathfinder2090:
The Hebrew word for Hell in the Bible means “Sheol”
Sheol is a state of rest, unconsciousness, sleep, not some burning place of torture.

Sheol is a PLACE OF ACTIVITY
Never an unconscious place.
Gen 37:35 “And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted, and said, For I will go down to my son into Sheol mourning. Thus his father wept for him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭37:35‬ ‭DARBY‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/478/gen.37.35.DARBY

gideonjeta:
Well, as someone said,look at other translations of that verse. It's the Grave.

The person LIED
There is nowhere in the Bible were Sheol and Hades is rendered as Grave! The Bible has its own words for grave so don’t get it twisted. Its Christian cults like JW that peddle such fake doctrines
Put hell for grave and see if it makes sense in Exodus 14:11-12
11 And they said unto Moses, Because there were no GRAVES in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?
12 Is not this the word that we did tell thee in Egypt, saying, Let us alone, that we may serve the Egyptians? For it had been better for us to serve the Egyptians, than that we should die in the wilderness.
Jesus was buried in a Sepulcher not in a hell

Amaechi lost the presidency 7yrs ago, when he lost the VP slot to d Jagaban camp.
Infact grapevine had it that wen Osinbajo was announced as running mate, Amaechi fainted. Cos he knew he had missed an opportunity to put himself in pole position for 2023
Imagine wot Amaechi wud have achieved with VP position! He wud not have delayed or waste the chance to feather his nest like PYO

APCnaPDP:
Just imagine a reason why Tinubu should be voted. He was hugged by Tinubu after trekking miles then Nigerians should vote Tinubu.

Honestly, if Tinubu becomes president, una go suffer. Nigerians will see the biggest level of economic failure ever. I am not predicting evil but c’mon Tinubu is surrounded by the same people surrounding baba Buhari. Nigeria needs something different, suffer no dey tire una?

Abeg don’t tell me about Obi, he is a good man, wish he could win but he won’t and a vote for him is a vote for Tinubu. Don’t be deceived.

See dem
Akube gang That think the change u seek can come thru ballot box
They will tell u, GO AND COLLECT UR PVC so u can vote for angel Michael in 2023
U forget those who want angel michael possess the LEAST POWER OF LOBBY, the agberos on the street know angel michael will not allow their profit to continue So they are preparing their votes for Lucifer and they carry all the lobby, they ready to do wot so ever it takes including murder if necessary
Continue deceiving urself, cos Democracy will only give u Lucifer and never angel michael

Toks2008:
What if Proffesor Yemi Osinbajo comes out as independent candidate?

History has shown that indirect primaries in Nigeria have never produced candidates who truly have the interest of Nigerians at heart and we can no longer put the future of our children in the hands of these old inept recycled politicians.

I still believe in Proffesor Osinbajo and there is a provision for independent candidacy in our constitution.

I am convinced that this will be a viable path at this juncture, an option worth exploring.

As an independent candidate PYO will perform even more WOEFULLY
Democracy and party politicking is like 5 & 6
Only swing voters will look the way of PYO in that case and that will not be up to scratch for him

JEWELofHELL666:
What do you think?

Tinubu vs Dan Dollar is Muslim/Muslim ticket

Aidejay:
I saw this comment on the thread announcing results and it truly represented what I was thinking.

How Did Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi Get More delegate Votes Than Prof Yemi Osinbajo?


1. Bola Ahmed Tinubu Scored 1271 Votes
2. Rotimi Amaechi. Scored 316 Votes
3. Yemi Osinbajo. Scored 235 Votes

E shock me die...

I think we've been led to overestimate the true reach and impact of Osinbajo. No wonder prior to the convention there was this clamour for Buhari to endorse a candidate to fly the APC flag, and Osinbajo was loudly touted to be the president's favourite.

Like many I was led to believe Osinbajo might walk away as APC's candidate I already wrote off any possibility of Amaechi clinching the ticket.

But you can imagine my shock when I saw Tinubu ahed with over 400 votes and guess who came in second, not Yemi or Lawan

AMAECHI!

we have underestimated this man until now.

I want to see a Tinubu/Amaechi combo in 2023.

So for those whose preference was Osinbajo how does it feel knowing he isn't even the 'SECOND CHOICE'.

Tinubu * Amaechi DUMDEST combo ever.
The two real contestants for the presidential flag-bearer were Tinubu and Amaeci. Cos they started preparing 8yrs ago. PYO never nursed presidential ambition until recently and Lawan too, only wanted to be a senate president. PYO is a text-book politician am surprised he even got up to 200 votes!

Pauldollars:
Presidential Aspirant Yahaya Bello got 47 votes.
He is 47 yrs of age. The delegates probably thought he was celebrating his birthday.

Bello turns 47 on 18 June.

He try for his age
How about Tunde Bakare at 67yrs scoring zero votes? Even his church members did not vote for him

jayrad:
A Man Who Can Not Hold Paper Has Won APC Presidential Primary Election – Adeyanju Mocks Tinubu

The convener of the Concerned Nigerian movement and human rights activist, Deji Adeyanju has mocked the National Leader of the All Progressives Congress, Bola Tinubu following his emergence as the presidential candidate of the ruling party.



https://mobile.twitter.com/adeyanjudeji/status/1534478917863624705



https://mobile.twitter.com/adeyanjudeji/status/1534508290662612992

Welcome to democracy baby
A goat can easily become the POTUS. People should seek to understand this political system, rather than talking rubbish on SM

[quote author=Anyways post=113597429][/quote] I knew Yaya Bello was going to lose wot I did not see in my crystal ball was failure for him in fling colors
So of all that crowd that follow Bello around, only 47 people believe in him?

Twoclans:
Yemi Osinbajo

Starts on a solemn note by giving a solemn talk about the victims of Owo.

He says he is a true Nigerian .he was born in Nigeria.

He says it's possible to have world class education

He said its possible to have processing industries.

He said we can explore oil and gas.we can open steel plants .

We can build our own cars

We can sell shoes to the world.
We can manufacture our weapons and ammunitions

A company in Nigeria is making armoured vehicles.

We can manufacture drones.

We can send Astronauts to the moon.

An open honest government can be run

A hundred million people can be lifted out of poverty

He said fortunately we are not starting from zero.he said the administration of president Mohammed buhari has started.He said everything is within our reach.

All that is left is on making the right decision tonight .

He said 2322 people will determine the future of Nigeria.he compels the delegates to vote right tonight .

He says you cannot wish this country well and vote for someone you do not believe in.

He says when you vote tonight ,that vote carries the answer to the prayer we seek as a country.

He said he had reasoned together with delegates on the hope of Nigeria .He said he has seen first hand the circumstances of the future.

He said he will be ready from day one.

He said it is for this reasons that he presents himself for your consideration as an aspirant.

Nice speech .

But hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Chai! I almost believed he was telling the truth until he said we can send astronauts to the moon It was at dat point I realized I was listening to yet another vain prattle of a political professional

JEWELofHELL666:
Some say he's a "fake" Muslim...

Atiku is a serial loser. He is going to fail once more in flying colors

phemmyjohnson:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/apc-presidential-primary-osinbajos-campaign-spokesperson-congratulates-tinubu/

Oh my God
Did this man actually tink PYO will defeat the Jagaban?

Dscop:
You are trying too hard to look smart, and you're nothing close to being smart; but keep digging the hole to Bury yourself. Where exactly did you get your War analyst degree from? University of Dumb.ass I suppose. Is that all you know about the game of chess?

It's obvious the manner water from MFM is not working in your life, but keep dancing naked, you're entertaining,

This is d last time I will reply ur failed line of argument
I just want to assure u, there’s nothing I post on Nairaland, I cannot stand by. I am proud of every post of mine

Dscop:
Who the hell are you for me to trust you? Sorry I don't trust re.tards. You have the mental capacity of a chicken in the middle of a stroke.

Idiot
Very ignorant people forming knowledge on Nairaland.
Ur rant cannot save Ukraine or prevent the ongoing de-nazification in the Western parts of the country