₦airaland Forum

9jaRealist:


Bros, I am still trying wrap my head around that one...
Why would BUA be complaining of high prices when it can simply lower its prices?

BTW, as far as I am aware there’s no extraordinary barrier to entry in cement manufacturing in Nigeria...
So long as one has the several hundred million dollars needed to build a modern plant, they can seek a mining license.
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This aconomist fellow, has alleged that cement production in Nigeria is OFFICIALLY a quasi-monopoly! Production licence is highly restricted. Making me to suspect, shud any player in the industry attempt to cross Dangote, his licence may be summarily revoked

Acidosis:
LMAO!

So now you agree that Dangote has competitors?? I thought you all always cry about Monopoly and how Dangote killed other competing firms in Nigeria?

Whoever depends on Nairaland urchins like you for credible news would nearly assume that Dangote cement is the only brand in the country given the extent y'all cry about monopoly.

After crying on Nairaland about monopoly, you will still carry your cash to the market to buy the same Dangote cement even though I have uploaded facts indicating we have over 15 cement manufacturers in the country. Of course, you won't patronize the 15 because they sell at higher prices than you can afford. Yet Dangote is your problem? You people are not Well.

Simple economics won't bow to your tears. Dangote PLC sells the cheapest Cement, Noodles, Pasta, Salt and Sugar in Nigeria. That's the fact. Take it or cry on. Dangote is not your problem.

On the contrary. Dangote cement is more expensive than the rest in my area. I make sure i find out the price of all the available brands, before going for the cheapest. Afterall, LIMESTONE IS LIMESTONE? Though it is rumoured, that Dangote cement is the least durable, loosing its binding strength significantly as time sets in.. And on the pack, its always PLUS MINUS 50KG! Meaning it could be more, or it could be less, depending on luck? Only recently, the company even ran a promo, SPELL D-A-NJ-G-O-T-E and be a millionaire. Do u know any winner?

BluDesk:
Nigeria is atleast 5/6 countries lumped together. What defines a country isn't just it's geography, but perspectives, policy direction and ways of doing things. All regions that makes up Nigeria see things differently. That's why how am Oyo or Ondo or Ogun or Osun person sees an issue will always be similar even across party divide.


That's why how someone from Cross River, Bayelsa or Akwa Ibom reason won't be far from one another



Same with how people from Enugu, Imo, Abia or Anambra would behave and act


90% of Nigerians are not even aware that the one Nigeria is directly responsible for the policy mismanagement and by extension, the management, operations and stagnative state of the country



Why we analyse cement, Do we know we have 200 precious minerals in the country this policy are keeping tied up and unexplored



Allow me convince you disintegration is the way


If limestone alone has produced let's say a 100 Billion dollars enterprise through Dangote. Multiply this figure by 200 Minerals


That's 100 Billion usd x 200 Minerals


Isn't this 20 Trillion productive economic market
That's primarily. When we discuss secondary and tertiary advantages we will have atleast 50 Trillion dollars economy


Can you see what oligarchs are tieing up is beyond even what they understand its implications. And why Nigeria needs to disintegrate so it frees up these reservoirs?


If any one counters me I'm. Ready for. Debate anyway anytime


I've been preaching this doctrine since 1995 and have been sensitising people. While Nigeria needs to dissolve and a new future unleashed



I'm certain. I'm not wrong.

It seems to me, that u are attempting to jeopardize the profits of covert miners? Dont u know that solid minerals racketting is a multi-billion dollar business in Nigeria? Who told u that any mineral is laying fallow?

Wilespo:
....his cost of production in Nigeria lowest in the world ? where did u get that info please......the taxes he pays, the money he spends on fuel, vehicle maintenance as a result of bad roads ? mehn ......i doubt it highly so please i would like to know the source of this information.....

Did you say he pay taxes? Why do u think he loves THIN-CAPITALISATION?

Ayomi4u2:
May God save us from our leader in dis country, thy where leader without border. Dangote is jxt figure head lot of silly gvt official aare all behind this.

Thank u very much for ur submission. Indeed Dangote is a figure-head. Infact if u recall the Kano gentleman, who in a fit of anger declared some years ago, that no matter how much the government tried to impoverish his family, his family can never come to be as poor as Dangote! Its only on paper, the man is the richest black man. In reality, i doubt if he will make top-ten in Nigeria. The rest cannot be named. and they are the ones reaping where they did not sow in this country.

Aconomist:
price war is not the solution. The solution is to liberalize the industry and allow more companies to get involved or allow imports

How can u talk of LIBERALISATION so flagrantly when the so called monopoly carteling cement is not Governmental? If u have the funds, what stay ur hands? U can jump into the business this afternoon! U guys are being bleeped by Rabiu and you dont even sense it.

Kudos to EFCC.

Aidejay:
Yes his name is wise kid

Haha u don know notin Its called ORI OLORI

rhektor:
None of the campaigners will answer this question, it is a targeted campaign against the person of Dangote. BUA, Larfarge, Ibeto etc still sells at the same price but Dangote is the demon lol. If Larfarge and others aren't thieves too they should crash price and watch Dangote crash in the cement industry but no they won't they'll rather pay influencers to push narratives against their competitors. The way we do business in this country shows how wicked a people we are

They are all hand in glove enjoying obscene profit margins and greedily smiling to the bank everyday.

winterfell007:
It's every obvious you failed economics in WAEC. If not, you should know that, whoever controls the lion share in a market determines the price.
Those competitors don't have the market share to be able to call the shots. Even if they did, they don't have to volumes to keep up.
If you are good observer, which i doubt. You'll notice that whenever Dangote invest in a new project, he likes to build so massively to the extent it can satisfy up to 80% of the country demands, you know why? Because he wants to call the shots, determine the price, he makes it so massive that future competitors won't be able to get anu significant market share. That's tge US has warned Nigeria about Dangote's economic malpractices.

Incidentally i did rather well in economics. My surprise is how well u ignore the atavistic urge in a man resenting cheating. As u say, Dangote account for 80% of supply. is that justification for the 20% to sell way way beyond cost price? If they sell at normal price, soon, those patronizing the 80% will get to know, which will jeopadize sales for Dangote. At any rate 20% still makes profit, so whats the justification for towing 80%?

Aconomist:
Cement is a undifferentiated product. Dangote would win any price war because he has deeper pockets. The only solution is to bring more companies into the industry or allow imports. Stop reasoning like a monkey.

I told u earlier that u were stuttering! Its merely ur argument i am shadow-boxing. U said 6bags of every 10bags out there in the market is Dangote, so, he could slap any price on it, right? so, i say, must the rest 4bags tow Dangotes price? i wasnt talking about price war. I mean sales at reasonable price and before long, Few people will desire to buy his 6bags, out of disgust for the gulf in prices btw the 6 and the 4. Leaving him only one option. equalization of price.

Aconomist:
He is single-handedly destroying Nigeria. Building a road cost 4x what it cost in other countries. Building a hospital costs 3x and building a mall cost 2x.

. I don think so. construction companies run their own quarries, produce thier own cement. They dont depend on Dangote

winterfell007:
You are not smart. it's very obvious. the major reason why they can't cut their prices is because Dangote controls more than 60% of the market share. he determines the price. That's why he's regarded as a monopolist. Have you ever wondered why Dangote exited from the noodles market, the flour market, water business and the juice business? the answer is simple. they were other serious players in each of the aforementioned business.
Dangote likes to play in a business where he's clearly the market leader so that we can determine the price whenever he likes. This is a huge economic malpractices.
I guess you wouldn't understand this, you aren't that smart afterall

U see, u are stylishly stammering. U say Dangote control 60% of market shares? Then there is no better way to ruin him, than competitors lowering prices. It happened to Gala. Nothing stops the rest from producing a formidable front against him, Many of them were in the business b4 him. But u see, they are enjoyihg it.

heendrix:
The person that said Nigerians deserve the leaders we got or Nigerians deserve what we're going thr is not wrong

Trust these lunatics to keep defending Dangote while he's tearing them apart financially

There u carry on like an anointed umpire?You 4get, Dangote is a CAPITALIST! I mean C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-T! What does that mean to u? Its the governments job to mitigate the worst excesses of capitalism, to regulate prices and combat monopolist business tendencies. Why do u think Dangote shud be HOLY-HOLY? U think he is a padre? No, he is businessman. Aside PMS, what else do u see government intrested in influencing? Transport fare hike like bitcoin during rush hour, yet its only Dangote u see? Landlord still collect 2yrs and high house rent. Market woman will cheat u mercilessly,sell u a paint of garri 5k if u dont know its 1k. Idont blame Dangote.

Aconomist:
When people ask me why I don't invest in Nigeria, remember this thread and responses like this. Nigerians are addicted to stagnation and justify their own demise -- only a fool would put his hard earned capital into a nation of monkeys like this.

Cement prices around the world range from $3 to $6 while Dangote is selling for the equivalent of $11 for a profit margin of 60% in Nigeria compared to an industry average profit margin of 5% to 12%. He is able to charge these high prices because of low competition -- he kicked out competitors by hoarding limestone resources and convincing the federal government to ban imports.

According to Rabiu of BUA Group, Nigeria's real cost of cement production is the lowest in the world. The high prices are because of price gouging and monopolistic behavior from Dangote.

Dangote isnt the only cement influencer or is he? There is Lafarge, Elephant, Burham, BUA and so on. Why face Dangote alone with all ur muscle? All these big big english? abi u be winch?

Millimann:
And her husband allowed her?

Let's not hear another story next month ooo.

Congrats to her.

olaodun:
On the Issue of Alcohol. the Bible forbids it totally for Xtians . Book of Proverbs has many chapters condemning and the Bible made us to know that our body is the temple of Holy Ghost, Also show me a man that takes drinks in moderation he cannot be a devoted Xtian he will just be a nominal xtan and alcohol has other twin sisters such as fornication, adultery and smoking It is very safe and good to totally avoid it , has no benefit and it kills cells in the system. Not food or water now dont waste money on alcohol

Yet Jesus drank Vinegar John 19 :29-30?

TGM2015:
God is not against anyone taking alcohol but He is against taking of alcohol by individual, group of people, tribe, ethnics, state and country that He has chosen or they willingly choose to dedicated their lives to Him and His services.

In all tribe of Israel Levites were not allowed or were commanded by God never to take strong (alcoholic) drink. Even before the conception of Samson his mother was forbidden to take alcohol until she delivered because the child will be dedicated to God.

The real question is should a Christian or someone who claimed to be a Christian takes alcohol?

Christians were described as royal priesthood, those who has been called out of darkness unto His marvellous light. They are people who have choice to give (dedicate) their life to God through Jesus their Lord and Saviour.

From the definition, it is glaring that a Christian is directly forbidden by God to take alcohol.

U are very wrong sir. Priests were only instructed not to drink BEFORE MINISTRATION because of Aaron's sons who under the influence of alcohol offered strange fire, and suffered fatalities as result. Priests drink freely when they are not conducting service. No rule said Levites should not drink. Infact DRUNKENNESS has no PUNISHMENT OR CONSEQUENCES under the law. Nazarenes under vow, also do not cut or shave or comb their hair, till the vow elapses or is cutting the hair a sin as well? in Numbers 28:7 the Bible tells us 1/4 Hin of OGOGORO was offered to God both morning and evening in the Jerusalem temple. Thats about 1.5 Litres of Ogogoro. So, in a day God is to be given 3.0 Litres of Ogogoro, poured on His Alter, a sacrifice pleasing to God. I dont know where u people got the lie that drinking alcohol is sin?

Topsido:
Oti d'Onile ni Banana.

U know Topsido, we think alike. i swear, i didnt see ur post b4 i did mine.

..Omo ton ta breadi o ti do nile ni Banana....

Kongrats Kelechi. This is the Iheanacho i use to know! I come bow to u, as u being dey lazy. Nice u are back to form, scoring magical goals. Keep it up

Eriokanmi:
The arotile of a girl who knew how to treat boko haram fuk-up had been assassinated last year...what a brave NAF Officer. Since she was killed in the barracks and in their usual habit, the army lied about the whole scenario, I knew nothing good could come out of them. Useless people

In addition. I want u to recall Military inquisition is in the air about looted equipment funds. So, its not hard to see why some EXPENSIVE equipment are suddenly being shot down.

Wash-e.

I saw this event live. Glad he didnt die. My believe is that Trucks laden with containers should be prohibited from climbing flyover bridges. I've seen too many fall with cruel consequences.

cares22:
I know you deliberately pretend as if you do not understand my point but you want to force your opinion on me to agree with you that God, through some portions of the Bible legalises consumption of alcohol for all and sundry and that, priest of the old also used alcohol in service unto the Lord and live with the rest...... By so doing, it will not be a sin for us Christians now adays to also use strong drink... and blah!.... blah!!..... blah!!!

I was at no point in contention with your comfortable ground and your inverted godly certificate for alcoholism.... My own point is, you do not need to go through that stress of obtaining heavenly certificate before you can buy and drink yourself to stupor once you are of age.

It is a thing of choice! I do not need to follow you to anywhere in the Bible because, I never lost touch with Hebrews 6:1 neither do I forget my Titus 2:11-12 and that it is wrong for me as a believer to use the liberty I gained through redemption as a license unto unrighteousness.

If I want to drink alcohol, I will never back it up with the word of God because, it is wrong to do so!

If wisdom did not teach us Proverbs 20:1then, we are out of all men most miserable!

Your POINT is out of point. The title of the thread says IS GOD REALLY AGAINST TAKING ALCOHOL OR JUST AGAINST EXCESS OF IT?. If u want to change the topic, u may as well start your own fresh thread or so. Cos i do not understand what Heb 6:1 or Titus 2:11-12 has to do with the topic. For Provs 20:1 Good News Translation renders it as: DRINKING TOO MUCH MAKES YOU LOUD AND FOOLISH. IT'S STUPID TO GET DRUNK. Central idea is that, Wine and Strong drink are intoxicants, he who indulges them in excess is foolish. Once more DRUNKENNESS is the issue here,not drinking.

cares22:
Why confusing and contradicting yourself at the same time? Can you be drunk without drinking Btw, what exactly are you trying to proof with your mention?

DUI simply means; Driving Under Influence of (any) substances which are capable of interfering with your sense of judgement on the road which may consequently lead fatalities..... DUI It is not about alcohol intoxication alone.

My point is, it is hypocritical of anyone to be seeking for a week point in the word of God to justify his craving for alcoholism... The truth is, once you are an adult, it is your choice to drink or not to drink hence no need for making God an accomplice....

I come in peace and in truth. Shalom!

Dear sir u are truthfully mistaking. 1. Drinking is different from drunkenness. One can drink too much water, Which is called DROWNING, an event separate from DRINKING water to quench taste. 2. DUI test does not seek to prevent DRINKING altogether, but DRINKING BEYOND A DEFINED THRESHOLD. i suggest u read more about it. 3. Issue is, there is no Bible verse that condemn drinking alcohol, in spite of mainline Christian believe on the matter! Rather the Bible supports it. Jesus drank VINEGAR on the cross. Its ALCOHOLIC drink from fermented milk. Also, In the book of Leviticus the recommended quantity of strong drink to be offered to God on the alter in Jerusalem is stated. And priest live off the remainders of all offerings. What u can offer God, u can eat! If u want, let us go thru the Bible together carefully on alcohol matter. Thanks

cares22:
Is there anything worth debating over consumption of alcohol If you are charged with DUI in Australia, Canada, USA, UK or any part Europe you know risk a jail term or loss of your driver's license..... So if constitution of countries on earth could frown at the act how much more God almighty....

After you might have confirmed God's stand on alcohol and you feel it is favourable to your disposition, then you sired your conscience with hot iron and dive into wantonness head first

Little wonder the choice of your moniker. Illicit

Lastly, You are not incharge of my opinion on public forum like this, please be guided.

For ur mind now u be scholar abi? DUI test is for intoxication, not drinking. By the time alcohol registers on ur breath then u are drunk. This is what they charge u for, DRUNK DRIVING. Not drinking

PastorandMentor:
Popular Gospel singer Asu Ekiye has come under fire to warn gospel artists who are proud and carry themselves like they have arrived.

His post on Facebook which he tagged
GOSPEL ARTISTES AND ARROGANCE
has been getting many reactions as he shares his experience with some music artists who are too proud.
Read what he wrote.



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159547362292848&id=526662847

And thats from Asu Ekiye who i regard as an arrogant, disrespectful minstrel! Oga, preach to your self first, abi u be Judas Iscariot?

joshmee4real:
I have jz 2 questions.
1. You walk into a bar to get some alcohol, and you meet your Pastor there, nd he tells you, he's jz taking two/three bottles and not to get drunk. How will u feel about him?
2. Despite the wide range of consumption of alcohol in the Society,
Have you seen a church that uses alcohol (No matter how little) as Holy Communion?.
Thanks

Yes. There is South-African Church that uses Alcohol in large quantity in their services. Did u know that Alcohol was poured as offering to God daily on the alter in the Jerusalem temple? Nothing abominable was ever allowed on that alter. Alcohol is not sinful, Holy-Holy peeps only make it so.

MejiLoyon:
Someone we hoped would do very well in school just told me his CGPA. Turned out that the wonder kid we saw him as was actually an EFCC personnel. means the efcc letters are his grades. Absolutely woeful.

I didn't blame him much, with this school na scam mentality everywhere. The purpose of this thread? " Bros you enjoy school, you drink and you nack and you party. Yet you pass well". I didn't give him the "na God" reply. I gave him some tips and I hope this will help other EFCC personnels out there.

1. Never miss lectures. Lectures help you train your brain. Listening to the words coming from the lecturer to me is an expo in the exam hall. I see the question and in my mind I press play. Boom lecturer appears in my mind's LCD screen and I'm off.

2. Be very hydrated.. Drink lots of water. Food might be scarce but no let water scarce. Processed information fired up the nervous system are electric like. Water keeps the brain well conducted. Information has no problem storing.

3. Love what you're reading. I've heard I don't like this course...oga like am. If you no want like am go meet the lecturer turn am to your friend. Like the lecturer you like the course. Once a course is difficult you see me hanging around the lecturer. Wait I was playing my hair so naturally they didn't like me. But when they see a boy that should be drinking beer and is obviously a smoker trying to know Fourier transformation they want to help.

4. Read a chapter, close it and jot down what you understood. If you miss some read it again. Do it again and again till you mastered it. Then when you wake up and before you sleep recite it. Or get a mirror and say it out loud. It will stick.

5. Don't do guerrilla reading. That means reading for exam or tests. Always read ahead. I start reading from the day of resumption. No be when exam come people go full class. In fact exam periods na revision I dey do. I'm always comfortable. Read ahead.

6. Read in your comfort zone.. some like music, some like noise, some like silence. Choose your poison. For me I use Enya. Play Enya and everything I read sticks.

7. When sleepy....sleep. don't force it. Back then I used candles to burn myself. After reading the next morning ask me what I read na foul. Dem don go. When sleep come pack up and sleep. Make you no go Kolo.

8. Organise book clubs and tutorials. For me it was an avenue to get ladies. Later I found myself mastering a topic so that I can teach it later. I gain both ways. I get the ladies and still pass . Don't be like me though. Do it for the knowledge. It'll help.

9. Limit your flexing to weekends. Drink well enjoy well. Weekdays face school work. Pity your mama.

10. Remember your family. Imagine their faces when they realise you've been wasting their cash. That one alone suppose ginger you...

On a final note have reading partners. People you read with. They help. Shout out to lord fuga....., Wande oko, olu......., Yango.....,mayo..... and the rest of my crew. Hope you all are doing well in your lives.

Never forget, keep your university circle tight. After graduation na only one or two friends they remain. So why pack them?Me na 0 friend remain.

I hope this helps someone out there.

Thunder fire u for pretending to be a badoo. U be scholar! Chameleon

tuna85:
God is definitely against drinking alcohol whether in small or large quantity. Those who got addicted today started small, now you can see a decline in their health and all, same as bet9ja.

You are not serious. Coca-cola is more addictive than alcohol and predisposes one to diabetes, Osteoporosis in old age and even cancer.

Issue is, how can an album win Grammy that fail to win Headies? Headies no get sense! Is it Possible for an African man to win Ballon D,or 2021 while failing to win African footballer of the year?