tpia@:

dont even go there, because you will injure yourself on this thread.

check your posts again- i'm not going to do it for you- and see where you confused yourself.

i dont respect men who only feel funky when they see a woman.

and enough blah blah blah about christianity.

na winch dey worry you. Go for deliverance.

tpia@:

better ask your great aunt why she had a giant snake on her back. Was she a sango worshipper or ogboni member? Do they tattoo snakes on their backs cos i'm not aware of any such thing. Are you from badagry or something?

yorubas do not get tattoos in the western manner- quote me anywhere. That's a western thing gotten from wherever.

the henna used by many west africans and older generations of yoruba women, is temporary and has to be repainted by the owner every so often.

tribal marks are the only permanent markings on the body.

in addition, the henna is mainly dyed on the palms, soles of the feet, and sometimes marked on the skin.

not in the form of snakes cos na all kinds of people dey this nl.

shouting obatala all the time doesnt really mean you know much about yoruba culture cos i've noticed some people seem to think cramming info on orunmila means they have a phd in yoruba knowledge.

Body marking constituted one way of defining African cultural identities.  Among the Yoruba, markings, given modern terminologies, were of two types. First, tattoos (approx: ara fínfín), involving a range of incisions and/or paintings on the body and varied with class, age, gender, and fashion.  In 1863 Richard Burton, a British diplomat at Abeokuta, described the artistic elements of Yoruba tattoo, which he noted varied from “the diminutive prick to the great gash and the large boil-like lumps” in the images of “tortoise, alligators, lizards, starts, concentric circles, lozenge, right lines, welts, grouts of gore, marble or button like knots of flesh and elevated scars, resembling scalds.”70 Tattoos also formed part of Yoruba chieftaincy and medical rites. On installation, the Oyo army chief Are-Ona Kakanfo receives 201 incisions (gbẹrẹ) on his head so that medicine could be rubbed into his veins to make him fearless and courageous.71 As living symbols, tattoos, particularly those associated with fashion, usually moved with time based on generational and fashion preferences.

The other type, facial and/or torso scarification (ilà bibu/kíkọ), though similar to tattoo, involves cutting or making an incision into the skin, and then allowing the wound to heal, leaving a permanent scar. Scarification refers specifically to ethnic and lineage identities, like those of the Alaafin
and Basorun in Oyo, who had marks unique to them. In an interview with French scholar Marie d’Avézac Macaya, in 1839, Osifekunde, an Ijebu Yoruba slave, among other things described major scarifications in the Lagos hinterland and their relationship to ethnicity, age, and gender. Marking, “done for a fee by an artist . . . called alakila [oníkọlà or olóòlà] between ages six and seven, is a kind of insignia, a national badge, uniform for all individuals of the same group and different from one people to another so as to give each one a distinctive characteristic.

Egba girl:

ahahahahahahahahhahah I cant stop laughing!!!! tpia@ totally cracks me up!

But seriously at poster, if your husband is against tattoos, then why are you still going ahead to get one?? This might just be asking for trouble from your husband. It might be your body but then dont forget he is still the head and i mean he kinda owns your body if you know what I mean?. But that is up to you to decide sha. Its between you and your man. but really talk about it with him first because he might not be as excited as you when you show up at home with a tat on your shoulder.

Im not sure what you mean by birds seem to be an important symbol in ancient yoruba culture. Ive never heard of them. Fellow NLders, pls enlighten me if there is something about my culture that I do not know.

ChinenyeN:

No. Enuani and Oru (Olu) people are not the same. Enuani are western Igbo cultural area, and Oru are Riverine Igbo cultural area.

Notes on the Ibo Country, Southern Nigeria
G. T. Basden (1925)


The origin of the word Ibo is obscure. In the records of the early explorers we do not meet with the name. The country on the left bank of the Lower Niger was spoken of as Elu-Ugwu, which simply indicates "high land "(hill). That on the right bank was called Ado, and this rather refers to Benin. There was a small town between Onitsha and Idah called Igbo, but this could hardly have supplied the name by which the whole country is known. The name was, doubtless, first met with at Onitsha. The people of this town claim to have come from the western side of the Niger, and some of the leading families state that they are of Bini stock. These people designate all the eastern hinterland as Ibo, and the western side of the river as Enu-Ani. The word is now usually spelt and pronounced Ibo, but to the native it is Igbo, the gb being used as an explosive sound.

The people of Aboh use two words for the Ibo Country, Elu-Ugwu and Isu-Ama. In the use of the former we may note that the men of Awka, a town lying 20 miles due east of Onitsha, claim to be "brothers "of the Aboh people, and one has heard it asserted that there the pure Ibo language is spoken. This claim receives some support from the tradition that a certain king of Aboh, being desirous of evading death, visited a famous shrine in Elu-Ugwu to inquire by what means he might live for ever. It is very probable that the idea of such a pilgrimage was put into his mind by a travelling smith from Awka, who also acted as an agent for the Oracle (Abwala) of his town.

Obiagu1:

Some Yoruba clans don't believe in Oduduwa.

Obiagu1:

Yeah, Yoruba is mainly associated with, I think, Oyo whereas Igbo in towns' names is scattered all over Igboland from North to South and from East to West.

exotik:

there is no esan that an esan man will speak that i as a bini man will not understand, but you don’t see binis claiming esans are binis or vice versa, and when i listen carefully i can even understand the so-called igbanke because these languages are heavily laced with bini, even the ika is laced with bini and i can pick some words and phrases. whereas a lot of the so-called “igbos” cannot even understand each other, but people like you will continue to say the binis are a “one city” people even though the binis can understand these other languages laced with bini and some of them can understand bini. so yeah, the binis only have benin city and we will continue to cherish and keep it from deluded “anioma igbos” and likeminded people like you. so igbuefi pass that message to “your people” who are still in benin and tell them to pack and stay the fvck out. please.

Ileke-IdI:

Yo, she cant sing. But one can clearly see the Bini culture.

Plz, if you want to enjoy, put on mute.

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Is she even Yoruba? Maybe a Bini woman with Yoruba name BECAUSE her Yoruba is kinda hard to understand. They say their "R" like Lagosians and some of the words are slightly different. Either Bini or an unknown Yoruba dialect.