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Hakerbamii: dis futa gan self...dey r smhw..a guy had 278 in jamb nd 84 in d post jamb..he chose elect elect nd futa as his 1st nd 2nd...can u believe he wasn't admitted....dis is nt a lie o.. Thou he is eligible for coc

Futa has manipulated everything underneath,hmmm.

obizzy: At futa now..went to CCE and the man told me not to worry dat my name is gonna come out..there was a slight error 4rm me in onme of my registrations I mistakenly wrote 164 instead of 184 in one of my credentials GOD!! He so insulted me before he even listened to me..can't believe my carelessness wants to deprive me of my hard earned admission..I jus thank God for today and wud want to advice all of you not to make this kind of mistake cuz u might not be lucky

Eh yah,thank God your 120k isn't a waste.

Masudoyindamola: https://m./436035679797277?refid=48

What about the one for SEET?

Sicozone: hey,has anyone paid 4 d c.o.c form today? Cos first bank here in ibadan has been telling me that there's no network since friday.

I just finished paying mine today,First Bank Gbagi Branch.

Dizney: Found two comp sci buddies, made futa 1st choice, 60 and 64%respectively....and weren't admitted. Shey futa admitted spirits to that dept ni?

Lol,they admitted the VC sons first

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Beolly: My broda i feel u Die this is called d Nigerian factor where evry1 wil exploit any available means to get embezzle money dis time 'legally' . Look at d manner dey 'handcuffed' d 2nd choice candidates all of dem ave to change course nt even a chance of getin their desired course at all even wit a high mark. Eventhough ave bought d form n am 1st choice i stil cnt bliv a mere change of course form should go 4 as much as 10k even a woman bside me in d bank was Shocked wen i n anoda guy at d counter told her our mission, d lady at d cafe where did d change over was surprised wen she saw 10k writen on d form n was asking if Futa was a Federal uni or private.
Wat shouldn't require a token is nw bin charged 4 remember hw dey held us to ransom afta we've written d p.utme n demanded we pay extra 1k b4 we cn c our result. Then dis 1 they had beta give me any1 of dose 3courses i paid 4 or else Gbege go Nak 4 dem head.

True talk,don't you guys know Futa is badly in need of money?
How will they get the money if not from freshers? Seriously,that 1k I paid for one stupid past questions I never used will ask them and the 10k I wanna pay now.
They increased the Pds fees from 120k to 180k and yet they aren't satisfied unless they should also increase the COC form to 10k from 5k.
This year is absolutely different,2nd choice candidates were considered last year but Futa decided to do a 'Change of Plan'.But all the same,all is well bro.

LagosShia: don't mind them my dear brother.when they see the truth,they feign ignorance and withdraw with the cliché: "I am only muslim". why cant I as a Shia also claim to be "only Muslim"? yeye people!!! they pray tarawaeeh,fold their arms in prayer,do wudu according to the four sunni schools,forbid mut'ah,reject the Wilayah of the 12 successors (as),embrace and honor the oppressors of the Prophet's Ahlul-Bayt (as) e.t.c.,and yet they are not sunnis,but "only muslim". yuck at such hypocrisy!!! yuck,yuck,yuck!!!! me too "I am only muslim"!!!

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Al-Baqir:
@Lanrexlan,
My terms (and probably yours too):
"Call unto the ways of your lord with wisdom and good morals; and reason with them with strong argument..." ~Qur'an.

To your question,NO I don't.

Thanks for your answer,I've gotten what I want.

Al-Baqir:
@Lanrexlan,
Very funny dear brother, can't you see inverted commas? Meaning I quoted somebody (Sissie) when he said he's not a shia or sunni.Yet jumped to the conclusion about me and even went for my quoting. Let's read to understand and not read to criticize. When you do that there bound to be errors and flaws in ur argument.
I am a shia (follower) of ahli Muhammad (household of Muhammad).

Do you believe in the Leadership of The Immediate Caliphs after prophet Muhammad(pbuh) before Hazrat Ali?

Al-Baqir:
@sissie,
[s]"Am not a Sunni or a shia;am just a muslim"[/s]

Lies,you are a Shia.What about this?
www.nairaland.com/1452659/shia-crimes
And this

Al-Baqir:
We (Shi'a) testify that Muhammad(saws) is the seal of the prophets of Allah (peace be upon him and his household).And we believe in the wilayah (leadership) of Ali (a.s) after the holy prophet (saws).Lastly, how can a seeker of truth hold on to the words of Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah when abuse,curse and harshness were his style of approach to other sheikhs of his time

.After prophet Muhammad(pbuh),you rejected his immediate successor and put Hazrat Ali(ra)there and yet you aren't a Shia?

And even this

Al-Baqir:
We (Shia) have over many centuries after the demise of the holy prophet (saws) presented our 12 Imams as being successor of the holy prophet,it is alarming that Ahl Sunna wal Jama'a (past or present) have NEVER reach any conclusion as who were those 12 as many of their Khalifas were monsters,murderers, adulterers and devil incarnates.

My reply is that of
Imam Ali (a.s) to the khawarij when they utter similar statement of yours:

"Kalimatu Haqin yuridu biha al-batil" (word of truth but falsehood was meant by it).

Suffice is to say Everything you do in Islam including your tawhid, fiqh etc are 100% in line with a particular school of thought;Maliki,shafi'I,Hanbali or Hanafi. And you tell me you still don't belong to anything?

Anyone here doesn't tell you he/she belongs to any school of thought.

How do you know your prophet? Was he infallible or fallible?
What were his legacy? Qur'an and sunnah or Qur'an and ahl al-bayt?
Yet you do not belong to any sect? You are just a muslim.

Obey Allah and obey his Messenger[Muhammad]

Perhaps you are those whom sura Jum'a:

"The likeness of those who were entrusted with the (obligation of the) Taurat (Torah) (i.e. to obey its commandments and to practise its legal laws), but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is as the likeness of a donkey who carries huge burdens of books (but understands nothing from them). How bad is the example (or the likeness) of people who deny the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah. And Allah guides not the people who are Zalimun."

How does this relates to what we are saying here? Smh
Finally,all these companions have worked their own way,you should also towards your own way and stop all these criticism.Free advice.....Peace

Sissie: Lanrexlan, I guess according to him we don't even know Bilal talk more of Salman or the rest , only the truth seekers do. LOL

Abi o,only people like him knows them very well

Al-Baqir:
@LagosShia,
All these sahabas are Alien to them. Only the Abu...Abu...Abu are known. Lol. Only the seeker of truth can dig deep.

So you are the only truth seeker because you are a Shia and all those Abu...Abu you know in your mind are unrighteous and deserved to be cursed by you right?

Al-Baqir:
@golpen,
Yes I have a big problem with them, dear brother. I need answers because I just can't reconcile sahaba, accusing my beloved prophet a derailed, prevented him from writing his will on his death-bed that would have saved u from perdition,doubting his prophethood, ran away from war and left him(a.s) with his enemies, killed his family yet being promised al-jannah despite Allah saying: "if you raise your voice or abuse prophet...your deeds will be void", Allah frown and will punish those who ran away and left the prophet in war, etc.

As for me, if I follow those sahaba footsteps, then am doomed but if I follow the righteous among them, then success is mine. They are all examples for us and the choice is ours on who to follow.

So who's the righteous among those sahabas?

Habiz: then u do lykwise

Argue on what? Comparing schools abi

NL member,see you next time
**unfollows thread**.....Peace

factorial1: hmm...true sha, bt nevertheless....the rate @which it gonna be increased wil be high soon sha

Sure,we should be able to make 200 pages if possible sha and moreover,they talked about irrelevant things on OAU thread.

Ohibenemma: And who's the pious prophet sent by Jesus?

Sent by God,prophet Muhammad(pbuh).

Mintayo: Like I said before I was not expecting you to agree... since accepting Jesus as Lord will not add anything to ur prophet.
I have shown you where Jesus called Himself Lord and master. Also where the angels called Him Lord too..
[s]A heart that want to learn will know that the other lords are in small letters compared to where Jesus was refer to as the Lord.[/s]
Anyways I am done with you on this issue, but according to Philippians 2:11,Every soul shall confess that Jesus is Lord. to the glory. of the Father...hallelujah.

Shalom

Chai,see ignorance at its peak.Small letters and capital letters,wonders shall never end.

factorial1: hmm....OAU thread dan reach 506....guess Futa's thread too gonna be more than that sooner....wen the next admission list comes out! Will be full with Testimonies n' the rest. Optimistic!!! It's well

Lolz,are you dreaming that?!!! Many students chose OAU,we are few here compared to them.

golpen: How did I draw conclusion too fast? Please correct me bro




What conclusion would you have drawn from the statement above?

NL member was looking for the words Eid-Kabir and Eid-Filtri in the Quran.He said

NL member: Ok stop crying and pull yourself together,I don't want to deal with emotional outbursts this afternoon.Golpen,oya quote the part of the quran where eid el fitri and eid el kabir is mentioned

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Then,he went further to say

NL member: You still didn't quote the part of the quran where eid el kabir and eid el fitri were mentioned.The word “Eid” appears in Sura al-Mai’da (“The Table Spread,” Chapter 5) of the Qur’an,meaning ‘solemn festival

.He sounded like someone looking for those words initially to me.
That's why I asked first before explaining what gave birth to Eid-Kabir.I said

lanrexlan: Are you looking for the word Eid Filtri and Eid Kabir?

Ohibenemma: Just as pointed out by Mintayo, I don't need any lenses to see what is clear. You've striven to disprove his divine lordship just for the reason of exalting your prophet.

Nothing divine in that,the same Lord was used in all those verses.

In doing this,you resorted to spinning fallacies when the otherwise is obvious. Why? Mat 24:24 is one of such. It never said 'more than', only a kind of mirroring,imitation, etc.

ok

John 14: 16 and 26 clearly enlightens us on who the 'comforter' is and you are disputing that again. Who do you think the comforter is?

A pious Prophet.....Peace

Mintayo: Actually I am not seeking ur approval and I am not trying to prove anything to you, Jesus us Lord there's nothing anybody can do abt that.

Your wahala.

we tell you that Jesus is the son of God, you will say "how many Son of God do we have!

They are many.

Now I told u Jesus is Lord, you are saying the same thing, should I b surprise? no
Even the Angels that appeared to the shepherd declared Jesus as Lord.
Luke 2:11, we read
For unto us a child is born this day in the city of David a saviour which Christ The Lord.
Is the angel refering to Jesus as a master?
I wld rather believe that than believe ur greek version.
Jesus is Lord of Lords, the king of kings.
Now lets go back to that book of John 13:13-14 KJV ,Jesus said, Ye call me master and Lord; and ye say well; for so I am.
14. if I then your Lord and master have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another 's feet. .
Now you see Jesus refering to Himself as Lord and master.
You can check John 20:28 too if You care to know the truth.
Jesus Is Lord overall,I know u dnt want to accept that cause of ur prophet bt there's nothing anyone can do abt and the earlier you accept that the better.

If you believe that Jesus being called Lord means he's king of kings and lord of lords,then you must believe Abraham is also king of kings and lord of lords,also the slave owners because the same word Lord is used in all these verses......Peace

NL member: Quit making excuses for him because he is a muslim He made a false assumption and told a lie against me, if he didn't know what my intention was he should have asked instead of accusing me falsely

That was his mistake,he drew conclusion so fast,it's bygone though.

Forget Jizyah for now,let us focus on Eid since thats what the topic is about.
Since these 6 practices you named are the articles of faith and since one celebrating eid is a part of Abraham's faith which muslims should follow then why isn't eid in the six articles you enumerated above?
You claim that celebrating eid was part of Abraham's faith and that is why Muslims have adopted it as part of their faith so why isn't celebrating eid one of the articles of Islamic faith?
Your reason for discarding Jizyah as a part of faith was because it is not in these articles so let me ask you again lanre,is celebrating eid part of your 6 articles of faith?

Since Believe in Allah,his Messengers and holy Scriptures are part of articles of faith.Then Allah told us in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Mutahanah 60:4 -Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibrahim (Abraham) and those with him.....So We follow the examples laid down by Ibrahim(AS),thereby being in line with the articles of Faith.

Since it isn't an article of faith then why do you call it an act of faith that was passed down from Abraham to Muhammed?

It was passed down from Ibrahim(AS) to us because Allah says in Surah As-Saffat 37:107-108 that he leaves a goodly rememberance of Ibrahim(AS) in the later generations and that's entails Eid.Eid is the commemoration of the faith displayed by Ibrahim(AS)
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Suratul Baqarah verse 183; O you who have believed,decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed upon those before you that you may become righteous
Abraham's name was not mentioned in this verse so how did you come to the conclusion that fasting was ordained for Abraham? The phrase 'those before you' could be referring to other prophets apart from abraham,it could be talking of prophet Isa,prophet Hud or prophet Yunus. Why are you so sure Abraham was among those who fasting was prescribed for? In Islamic beliefs,it is taught that each prophet that came before Muhammed were given a set of laws to follow that were suitable for the people of their time.
What if fasting was not suitable for the people of abraham's time and so allah didn't prescribe it for them?

You are funny bro,Is it because we are talking about Ibrahim(AS)here,that's why you choose to nullify him? Allah says Those before you and Ibrahim(AS) is also among those before us.
Allah
says in the glorious Quran in
Surah Al-Imran 3:68 -Verily,among mankind who have the best claim to Ibrahim (Abraham) are those who followed him,and this Prophet (Muhammad SAW) and those who have believed (Muslims).And Allah is the Wali (Protector and Helper) of the believers.So muslims have best claim to Ibrahim(AS).

You have to show me the part of the Quran that says Abraham offered Salaah and paid Zakat.

Allah says in the glorious Quran in
Surah An-Anbiyaa 21:73 -And We made them(the Prophets) leaders,guiding (mankind) by Our Command,and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds,performing Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat),and the giving of Zakat and of Us (Alone) they were worshippers.Ibrahim(AS) is among the Prophets[Surah Maryam 19:41].

This is what Suratul Nahl verse 20 says;Indeed,Abraham was a [comprehensive] leader,devoutly obedient to Allah,inclining toward truth, and he was not of those who associate others with Allah.
It doesn't say Abraham was a role model in ALL aspects of faith.

See the verse of Surah Al-Mutahanah 60:4

Part of Islamic faith is believing in the holy books allah sent down from the beginning to the end.
Abraham didn't believe in the Torah because he wasn't alive when it was written.

Yes,he didn't believe in Taurah because it wasn't in existence during his lifetime,but he believed in the scripture revealed to him[the pages of Ibrahim]

He didn't believe in the Thalmud,He didn't believe in the Quran.Heck he didn't even believe in Muhammed and belief in Muhammed is very crucial to being a muslim.
So how is Abraham a role model in ALL aspects of faith?

We recite the shahadah There's no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad(pbuh)is a messenger of Allah because Muhammad(pbuh)is the last and final messenger.During the time of Ibrahim(AS),he and his people will recite There's no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Ibrahim(AS)is the messenger of Allah.Being a muslim means to submit one's face to Allah[Surah An-Nisa 4:125].

Lastly,celebrating eid is not an article of faith and neither is it a pillar of Islam.

Eid is the commemoration of Hajj which is a pillar of Islam.

You guys don't have light? Eya.
We had light since morning over here

We don't have it o,that's why I replied late,battery down and just recharged.No light since sunday.....Peace

NL member: Lol,even when he is drawing the wrong conclusion he still isn't lying?
At-taquiya Wonders shall never end.

He may be wrong doesn't mean he's lying.It may be not a deliberate mistake na.

Demanding Jizyah is not part of faith? Even when it is mentioned in the qur'an?
The definition of faith is;a set of beliefs/a strongly held set of beliefs or principles.
For you to have faith as a Muslim means you must accept every aspect of Islam allah has ordained for you.

There are just six articles of Faith and Jizyah isn't part of it.There are:
1)To believe in Allah(swt)
2)To believe in The revealed Books.
3)To believe in The Angels.
4)To believe in The Messengers(Peace be upon them all)
5)To believe in Destiny(Divine PreOrdainments of Allah).

6)To believe in The Day of Judgement.

Anyone that believes in these and work along it the five pillars of Islam has fulfilled the will of Allah.This is an hadith of our beloved prophet Muhammad(pbuh).
Narrated Abu Huraira(May Allah be pleased with him):The Prophet(pbuh) said:Whoever believes in Allah and His Apostle,offer prayer perfectly and fasts the month of Ramadan,will rightfully be granted paradise by Allah,no matter whether he fights in Allah's Cause or remains in the land where he is born.
The people said,O Allah's Apostle ! Shall we acquaint the people with the is good news?

He said,Paradise has one-hundred grades which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who fight in His Cause,and the distance between each of two grades is like the distance between the Heaven and the Earth. So,when you ask Allah (for something),ask for Al-firdaus which is the best and highest part of paradise.(i.e. The sub- narrator added,I think the Prophet also said,Above it (i.e. Al- Firdaus) is the Throne of Beneficent (i.e. Allah),and from it originate the rivers of paradise[Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4 hadith number 2790(O.P 48)].Is JIHAD not also mentioned in the Quran like Jizyah?

Allah ordained Jizyah in the qur'an in Surah At tawbah verse 29, "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued".

That is a divine decree from Allah in the Qur'an.It is not simply a Shariah law.
For you to have faith in Allah as a Muslim you must accept everything Allah says in the Qur'an; Jizyah included,so Jizyah is part of faith.

Jizyah isn't part of Faith.If Christians and Jews are living under a muslim Government and this muslim Government protects them,then they are to pay Jizyah.But a country where muslims aren't the sole government and it's not govern by Shariah law,
then it's not a sin if muslims don't collect Jizyah and they aren't going against Allah's order.

The only sure similarity between Abraham's religion and Muhammed's religion is the practice of monotheism as you can see from the bolded and enlarged parts of your post.
When Allah says Muhammed should follow the religion of Abraham,He is saying Muhammed should be monotheistic and worship Allah alone.

This is wrong,the only similarity isn't Monotheism.It's the key but not the only one.Fasting is also in the footsteps of Ibrahim(AS)also[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:183]because he was among those before us,so is SOLAT.
Hajj is definitely in the footsteps of Ibrahim(as),he built the kabba and proclaim the call.

Those verses do not say that Abraham also performed Hajj,paid Zakat or prayed Salaah.
They only said follow the religion of Abraham which is monotheism for allah alone.

The faith of Ibrahim(as) entails those things.Ibrahim(AS) performed Hajj you know that,all the prophets of Allah offered SOLAT,they paid zakat.

Even you added the part about monotheism in brackets,meaning when the qur'an says you should follow Abraham,it is only saying you should worship no one else but Allah.

And we should follow the footsteps of Ibrahim(as) because He's a role model to all in aspects of Faith[Surah An-Nahl 16:120]

The instruction isn't to follow the exact same religion Abraham followed because [s]Abraham's religion and Muhammed's religion are different[/s]

What's Ibrahim(AS)'s religion then if not Islam? The instruction is to follow the exact faith practised by Ibrahim(AS)
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All the other prophets in the quran were given laws that were meant for the people in their regions.Only Muhammed's religion was ordained to be for the whole of mankind so how can Muhammed be instructed to follow the same laws Abraham followed?

I am not talking about laws here jare,I am talking about Faith.I agree the Shariah of the past prophets may be different,their faith is the same.All the prophets of Allah believed in all the articles of faiths and uphold the pillars of Islam.

That's all.
Happy Independence day Lanrexlan

Same to you bro,Independence day without electricity,......Peace

obizzy: PDS students are inelligible for the C.O.C!! I just need to know if there's any chance of 3rd list or something..am definitely storming into FUTA by monday to query dem..oloshi people!

I think there's a single list for you guys na.All is well sha