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tintingz: was the God in old testament another God?? Are they two gods in the bible??

Confusion at it peak

He repented and became a loving God in the new testament,confusion

jammyunn: funny, to derail this thread? No way! When you're ready to learn, let me know. I can't answer a question you don't know the root and basics. I'm not ready for any christian/muslim or atheist war.

Lol,Learn? I asked you questions you can't answer and you wanna teach me? Enjoy your thread sire.....Peace

Joshthefirst: have you ever bropken the torah sir?

What do you mean by broken the torah? Torah is the revelation given to Moses(pbuh) to guide his people only.The glorious Quran is the last and final revelation of Allah sent to guide mankind as a whole.....Peace

TheMadame: Thank you all for your enlightening contributions. However I am a wee bit confused by the fact that man is a slave condemned to worship God/Allah perpetually in order to die for him to attain perfection(heaven).
Since God is all knowing then every event is predetermined by God.So man does not have free will so how can man be held accountable for his actions that are predetermined by The omnipotent God?

Man has been given freewill,a choice to choose between right and wrong but Allah(swt) in his unlimited knowledge as the creator of man knows what man will choose.
For example,there's a teacher who has been teaching for a long period of time,then there's a student in his class who doesn't read nor pay attention in class and play a lot.Then,the teacher says before the commencement of the exams that this particular student will fail his exams and in the end,the student failed.Who's to blame? Teacher for saying the student will fail or student for not reading? The student can't say I failed the examination because the teacher said so,he has the opportunity to read or not to read,freewill.The teacher said so because he has been teaching that subject for a long period of time and has a knowledge of how students like that perform in exams.
Similarly,Allah(swt) far far more knowledgeable than the teacher and has the knowledge of the unseen knows what will happen to a man because he's his creator.So man has a freewill to choose between good and bad and Allah(swt) already knows what man will choose in his unlimited knowledge,he's All-Knower,All-Seer and Allah(swt) knows best.....Peace

jammyunn: PM me if you want to learn...that's all bro.

Lol,teach whatsoever you wanna teach here.I answered your question but you failed to answer mine.....Peace

Joshthefirst: do you believe in the law of moses sir?
Is your idea of heaven a perfect place? Is allah perfect?

I believed in the Law of Moses(pbuh).We muslims call it Taurah.Allah(swt) is perfect,he's a supreme being.There's none comparable to him on earth and in heaven.Allah(swt) says in the glorious Quran in Surah Maryam 19:65 -Lord of the heavens and the earth,and all that is between them, so worship Him (Alone) and be constant and patient in His worship.Do you know of any who is similar to Him? (of course none is similar or coequal or comparable to Him,and He has none as partner with Him).[There is nothing like unto Him and He is the all-hearer,the all-Seer].
Surah Ash-Shura 42:11 -The Creator of the heavens and the earth.He has made for you mates from yourselves,and for the cattle (also) mates.By this means He creates you (in the wombs).There is nothing like Him,and He is the all-hearer,the all-Seer.
Surah Al-Mumenoon 23:14 -Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood),then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh,then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones,then We clothed the bones with flesh,and then We brought it forth as another creation.So Blessed is Allâh,the best of creators..Paradise is a perfect place,no false talk,all what will be heard is greetings of Peace and many more.It is narrated by Abu Huraira(May Allah be pleased with him):Allah's Apostle(pbuh) said,Allah(swt) said:I have prepared for My pious slaves things which have never been seen by an eye,or heard by an ear,or imagined by a human being[i.e. Paradise][Sahih Al-Bukhari 4/3244 O.P 467.].So,paradise is a perfect place.....Peace

TheMadame: @lanrexlan,
Sir,
Thank you for your input. If I understand you correctly,Mankind only exists to praise and worship Allah or God,and when man does this God in his benevolence allows man to live in order to die in order to get to heaven?

You are welcome madame.Yes,the reward of worship is Paradise as Allah(swt) says in the glorious Quran in Surah At-Taubah 9:72 -Allah has promised to the believers -men and women,-Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever,and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise).But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allah.That is the supreme success..And Allah(swt) never fails in his promise[Surah Al-Hajj 22:47]......Peace

Joshthefirst: do you believe in moses?
Please what do you mean by "trying my best"? Can you explain?

Yes I do believe in Moses(pbuh).What I meant is that as a human,I am not perfect.The soul inclines to good and bad,so I am trying my best to resist the bad aspects and incline to the good which is obeying the commandments of Allah.Am I clear now?.....Peace

jammyunn: Believed? So you no longer believe? There's nothing to explain to you because as an unbeliever, you won't understand at this point. So let's start from the basics. PM me, I don't want this thread derailed and don't think I'm in for arguments.

Was Christ's message meant for the whole humanity? Imagine,you even called me an unbeliever!!! That's unfair,I am not in for arguments either.....Peace

Joshthefirst: do you obey his orders?

Yeah,I am trying my best to obey my Lord as he stated his Laws and orders in the glorious Quran......Peace

Joshthefirst: ok, here's my first question:
what's your relationship with Allah? Since this thread is between mankind and God. What are you to him?

I am a slave of the Most Gracious(Allah).He is my Lord and my purpose on earth is to worship Him and obey his orders and if I do so,he would not punish me.....Peace

TheMadame: What is the relationship between God and Mankind? Why did God place man kind on this particular planet and not any other planet?
What really is the purpose of man to God in the world in relation to the creation stories in the holy texts(The Bible and The Koran)?

The relationship between man and Allah(swt) is that man should worship Allah(swt)only and be grateful to him and Allah(swt) shouldn't punish the one who did so.
Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah An-Nisa 4:147 -Why should Allâh punish you if you have thanked (Him) and have believed in Him.And Allâh is Ever All-Appreciative(of good),All-Knowing..To back it up with the sayings of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).It is mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 52:Hadith 108 -Narrated Mu'adh:I was a companion rider of the Prophet on a donkey called 'Ufair.The Prophet(pbuh) asked,"O Mu'adh! Do you know what Allah's right on His slaves is,and what the right of His slaves on Him is?
I replied;Allah and His Apostle know better.He said,Allah's right on His slaves is that they should worship Him (Alone) and should not worship any besides Him.And slave's right on Allah is that He should not Punish him who worships none besides Him.
I said,O Allah's Apostle! Should I not inform the people of this good news? He said,Do not inform them of it,lest they should depend on it (absolutely).And Allah knows best for placing mankind on earth and not any other planets.

My questions stem from the fact that man appears to be a help less pawn in a chess game of forces more powerful than him.Man lives a life of strife that appears to terminate in death,and uncertainty.
What then is the purpose of life,if man is constantly involved in a life of strife between Good(God) and Evil(devil) of which the end is already predetermined by God.
Just thinking aloud.

The purpose of life is Worship.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ad-Dhariyat 51:56 -And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone)..Also,life is also a test for mankind to know who's better in deeds.Allah further says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Mulk 67:2 -Who has created death and life,that He may test you which of you is best in deed.And He is the All-Mighty,the Oft-ForgivingSo,this life is a test for the hereafter and Allah knows best.....Peace

Joshthefirst: I just wanted to ask a few questions, but I don't want to derail this thread. Maybe next time sir. Good evening.

If your questions are related to the topic,you are welcome.Evening sire.

TheMadame: ^
Does this mean that God needs mankind to do his will in order for God to exist?

No,Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Fatir 35:15 O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allâh,But Allâh is rich (Free of all needs),Worthy of all praise.
Surah Ibrahim 14:8 -And Mûsa (Moses) said:If you disbelieve,you and all on earth together,then verily! Allâh is rich (Free of all needs),Owner of all Praise.
Allah is free of all needs,worthy of Praises.

And where is the free will if man only exists to perform Gods will?

Free will is given to man.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ash-Shams 91:7-8 -And by Nafs (a soul,etc.),and Him Who perfected him in proportion;Then He showed him what is wrong for him and what is right for him.
Surah Insan 76:3 -Verily,We showed him the way,whether he be grateful or ungrateful.There's free will given to every man but Allah knows in his unlimited Knowledge what will happen.....Peace

jammyunn: you have not answered my question bro?

Yes,I believed in the true Christ Teachings.Now,answer my questions bro.

jammyunn: Paul didn't contradict Jesus, he made clearer the purpose of the coming of Christ. Bro it's safe to say you believe in Jesus' teaching than any other person?

Abeg jare,why don't you explain all what's written up there? Let me add this for you,Jesus said Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV) -For if ye forgive men their trespasses,your heavenly Father will also forgive you:But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses..But I think Paul never knew about the Lord's prayer,Instead of forgiving people of their trespasses,he handed them over to the devil.1 Timothy 1:20 (KJV) -Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander;whom I have delivered unto Satan,that they may learn not to blaspheme..Imagine,two precious souls instead Paul should forgive them as taught by Jesus,he handed them over to satan.Is he contradicting Jesus or not?

Paul has a different gospel from that of Christ.
1 Corinthians 4:16 (KJV) -Wherefore I beseech you,be ye followers of me(Paul).
2 Timothy 2:8 (KJV) -Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Romans 11:13 (KJV) -For I speak to you Gentiles,in as much as I am the apostle of the Gentiles,I magnify mine office:
1 Timothy 2:7 (KJV) -Whereunto I am ordained a preacher,and an apostle,a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity..Imagine,followers of Paul?
Paul for Gentiles,Jesus and his disciples for the lost sheep of Israel[Matthew 15:24,Matthew 10:5-6].Contradicting Jesus.
Hebrews 6:1 (KJV) -Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ,let us go on unto perfection;not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,.So,Paul has perfect doctrine apart from that of Christ? Then you will see Paul contradicting 'Jesus' teachings.
'Jesus' said when you meet one another,greet yourselves with Peace[Luke 10:5-6],but Paul said No greet yourselves with a holy kiss[2 Corinthians 13:12].Jesus was circumcised[Luke 2:21],but Paul Condemned Circumcision[Galatians 5:2-3].Then he tried to destroy the GOD's law which Jesus came to fulfil[Matthew 5:17]as he said Galatians 3:24-25 (KJV) -Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ,that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come,we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Then,he gave the licence to use lie to propagate his gospel.
Romans 3:7 (KJV) -For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory;why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
2 Corinthians 12:16 (KJV) -But be it so,I did not burden you: nevertheless,being crafty,I caught you with guile.
Philippians 1:18(KJV) -What then? notwithstanding, every way,whether in pretence or in truth,Christ is preached ; and I therein do rejoice,yea,and will rejoice.Are all these the ways of the true Christ?

Life itself is a test from Allah.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Mulk 67:2 -Who has created death and life,that He may test you which of you is best in deed.And He is the All-Mighty,the Oft-Forgiving
Surah Al-Kahf 18:7 -Verily! We have made that which is on earth as an adornment for it,in order that We may test them (mankind) as to which of them are best in deeds.So,this material world is a test for the hereafter.A test to know who is best in deeds.

Allah also says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Baqarah 2:155 -And certainly,We shall test you with something of fear,hunger,loss of wealth,lives and fruits,but give glad tidings to As-Sâbirun (the patient).

Surah Al-Ankabout 29:2-3 -Do people think that they will be left alone because they say:We believe,and will not be tested?
And We indeed tested those who were before them.And Allah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true,and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allah knows all that before putting them to test).
Surah Muhammad 47:31 -And surely,We shall try you till We test those who strive hard (for the Cause of Allâh) and As-Sabirun (the patient ones),and We shall test your facts (i.e. the one who is a liar,and the one who is truthful).

Surah Saba 34:21 -And he (Satan) had no authority over them,except that We might test him,who believes in the Hereafter from him who is in doubt about it.And your Lord is a Hafiz (watchful) over everything.

So Allah(swt)is testing mankind to know who believes in Him and the unseen and those who are best in terms of their deeds.To distinguish between the true believers and the hypocrites and disbelievers,to test who's truthful and who's a liar,to test the fibre of the believers' Faith.When bad things happen to the true believers in the Oneness of Allah(swt),they take it as trial from Allah,bear it with patience and they say Surah Al-Baqarah 2:156 -Who,when afflicted with calamity,say:Truly! To Allâh we belong and truly,to Him we shall return.
The more tests you get,the more your Faith in Allah will increase and the more closer you become to Allah(swt).....Peace

Mintayo: Very typical of Lanre,quoting the Bible out of context without taking time to read the whole chapter...smh

*Yawns* Smh

dotobo: Hello NLDers,

Please I will like to know if there is a scriptural bases for when people say "Dont say that you dont know which angel is passing".

If you wish somethin negative for someone else, does angels also record that ?

Is this phrase based on simple ethics of good deeds ?

Does angels record bad things ?


Thank you in anticipation.

There are two angels assign to everyone,one at his right side recording his good deeds and another on his left side recording his bad deeds.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Qaf 50:17 -(Remember!) that the two receivers (recording angels) receive (each human being),one sitting on the right and one on the left (to note his or her actions).....Peace

vire: Jesus is God himself revealed to us bodily.....he is the God with us............revealed as Emmanuel

Jesus is a messenger.John 17:3 (NIV) -Now this is eternal life: that they may know you,the only true God, and Jesus Christ,whom you have sent..A messenger sent from God.....Peace

Pastor Kun: No it's not a sin for christian's to consume wine or alcoholic drinks.What the bible frowns against is drunkenness thus moderation is key.

Nah,maybe you forget to read this.
Jeremiah 25:27-28 (NIV) -Then tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty,the God of Israel, says:Drink,get drunk and vomit,and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.
But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink,tell them,This is what the LORD Almighty says:You must drink it!.This is called forced drinking,drink and get drunk.Amazing abi?
Then,the bible says wine makes life,men and god rejoice.
Ecclesiastes 10:19 (NIV) -A feast is made for laughter,and wine makes life merry,but money is the answer for everything
Judges 9:13 (NIV) -But the vine answered, Should I give up my wine,which cheers both gods and men,to hold sway over the trees?..Then what's the outcome of drunkenness?
Proverbs 23:31-34 (NIV) -Do not gaze at wine when it is red,when it sparkles in the cup,when it goes down smoothly!
In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.You will be like one sleeping on the high seas,lying on top of the rigging.Marvellous indeed.

babylolaroy: salam. i jus joined the thread. i must sincerely say as old as it is, its really lovely and educating too. i couldnt read thru all the pages though buh i read sooo much. it kept me busy while learning stuffs.
now i know how to control anger from someone's share of what she heard dring sermon
importance of going early to the mosque.

blah blah i can go on nd on. the thread is just superb. mukina, thanx.
hmmn..buh i ddnt go to mosque today. no reason whatsoever. i just felt like afterall its not compulsory for sisters. i just stayed indoors and sed zuhr..is dah right?

There's no sin on you for not attending but it's highly recommended,they are many benefits of Jummuah.
It was narrated by Abu Hurraira that the Messenger of Allah (Pbuh) said:The five daily prayers,and from one Jummah to the next,are an expiation for whatever sins come in between,so long as one does not commit any major sin.(Sahih Muslim,Hadith Number 233)
It was narrated from Abu Hurraira that the Prophet (Pbuh) said:Whoever does Ghusl then comes to Jummah,and prays as much as Allah decrees for him,then listens attentively until the khutbah is over,then prays with him (the imam),will be forgiven for (his sins) between that and the next Jummah and three more days.(Muslim,Hadith Number 857).So it's advisable for sisters to attend Jummuah.....Peace

Hakerbamii: any info about the coc candidates? What will happen to dem? Will they be on the 2nd batch or what and what and what!!! Ah! I don vex, can anybody beg me b4 i destroy something!

If you wanna destroy something,make sure you destroy crates of Eggs,free advice.

factorial1: , longest tym bro, aw u dey nah?...no mind ma boss(peter)....I see you... add me on 2go, ID...''demuu4real1'' WhatsApp: 08102491767 4 more gist n' the rest, keep cool sir

Will add you up bro.I am fine oo,but house boring oo.Futa should answer us o

tintingz: I missed does days when kids are not ranting on 2go but now so many kids, I still visit 2go rooms tho, just to meet new friends and chat.


Btw my star is Ultimate on 2go

Your phone don suffer then ,away things.

irewolepeter: lolx, so sorry about it, this thread got so boring, so i decided to spice it up with rumours :-), oya lets make it lively like that

That's why you want to let Factorial's BP rise abi .*just kidding*

tintingz: 2go: you can't receive offline massage on your phone, you can only share pictures and go to 2go chatroom.

Whatsapp: you can receive offline messages, share voice note and videos.

I prefer Whatsapp

You can receive offline messages on the new 2go version 3.7.It comes with notifications.

papa giddy: yeah according to an islamic preacher dat said "wishing Christians merry christmas during christmas is haram so do so too

Does Christmas has a basis in the bible? December 25th is the day Mithra was born.