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Just a little extra, Adaptation means adjusting to suit various factors such as climatic conditions. It does not mean lack of thorough analysis and problem resolutions. People should be more precise in how things like edges meet, scale relationships, and others. Afterall, when things are well done, it pleases everyone's eyes. Columns, eaves and other stuff like that are based on Historical proportions such as the height of the rooms and the styles in classical Architecture, The Doric, Ionic, Corinthian and Tuscan Columns are the Architectural historic basis for columns, Then there were various interpretations of these. This explains where looking at the building gives me some conflict Architecturally. It imitates the New Orleans Battery style, but the huge oversized cornice work, and the Ultra-modern large columns conflict with the style. Do not get me wrong though, I still think they are very nice houses. One little piece of advice though, I think you should raise the chair rail on the interior a little bit, the proportion to the height of the rooms is off. I am guessing that you have 10' ceilings. Try 42-48" from the floor. |
felele:I'm sorry Bro, but I disagree with you. Even America copied from the Brits, French and Dutch. After mastering, they then developed better styles based on their lifestyles and technological growth. It is a crock to make statements like you made. Red bricks are not Nigerian. They are used all over the world. Neither is Terra Cota, nor concrete Blocks. We tend to make excuses for our inability to study things appropriately. There are still some colonial homes standing today, and they look much better, and were built much better than the junk being built in Nigeria nowadays.Sorry, but this is my well educated opinion. |
felele:Is this generic material concrete based? or is it metal roofing? |
felele:My brother, i wasn't trying to diss your building. Eclectic means no defined Architectural style. This is very common in Nigeria though and it should give me an edge with my designs. In a way, it looks like a New Orleans, French quarters style, Which is actually a victorian. But the details are not supportive of this style. In a way, let me put it like this, My designs are true to their styles, and after being built, you will not know if it was built yeaterday or 100 years ago during it's period. We actually study styles and try to make authentic interpretations. |
felele:Crete tile must be a Brand name. What material is it made out of? Do you deck your roofs or attack it to purlins? |
Bro, Things are moving slowly, But I am going to look at an abandoned granite mine in Ijebu tomorrow, I may need to talk to you about setting up if I can get investors to work this thing. You never got back to me after querying me about those guys. |
@ Felele, Do you use metal trusses for your roofs? What kind of roofing do you put on them? Asphalt Shingles? |
MrCrackles:Uhhh This explains you guys tag teaming into forums. Now it all makes sense. How are you doing Bro? |
felele:How many A/C units do you have installed and what tonnage? {Brings out calculator to check cost) |
You can't judge the price unless you know how much the Land factor is. I dunno if it's me, but the details bother me so much. The building is just eclectic without no Architectural origin or style. Where are the efficianados? tope2000:Tope it looks like you're seeking a house huh? Or do you just love looking at houses? |
This is why I am celibate. |
I doubt if many here truly know what a megacity is. To build a megacity, many many millions of people will have to work. This means, the many many millions will have to be serviced. Food, water, provisions etc, 3/4 of Naija will flood to Lagos. Now, in my experience, I know for sure that the roads are inadequate for the numbers that we are looking at. Even in cities with excellent rail networks, they have much more roads and traffic lanes. Our Governor will not only have to clear the roads of obstructions, but will also have to demolish many houses to create more traffic routes. He needs to fast-track at least a North-South, and East-West Railine with spurs coming off them. It is amazing to see people complaining about roadside impediments. Just wait until the demolitions start. The good of All v/s the good of one. What Gov Fashola is missing now are construction training centers to give these traders an alternative. I will suggest that he gives them a stipend during training and then send them out demolishing and rebuilding. Fashola is still going to be the best job creation Governor that ever served Nigeria. I know this for sure after going through the various infrastructural related projects coming on stream. If you think that is all, just wait until you see the private mega projects that are coming on as well. Nigerians need to stop thinking trading is all that it takes in a country. There are many alternatives that are necessary in society building. Once again TRAINING CENTERS, TRAINING CENTERS,TRAINING CENTERS. |
More 3D Transparencies of Sapphire
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Biimz:I salute you back Biimz, and thanks for writing. Sapphire Drawn U.S. specs on crawl space. 31'-6" Wide with fireplace X 58'-0" Depth, 29'-0' wide w/out Fireplace 3 Bedrooms, 2 full Baths. Master Suite w/walk-in closet Jacuzzi Tub in Master bath Front and Side covered Porches Living/Family Room Dining Room Breakfast nook Kitchen w/Laundry Closet 1440 Square-feet Can be modified for Naija construction. Check email. Cheers. |
Pennywise:Geeze Bro, If I wasn't so dark, you would have seen me blushing after reading your message. Me dey think sey na some fine inquisitive Chick dey question me like Police. lol I apologize ohh, wetin I dey think. To address your questions: Let me make a comment first, your assumption of wastage is definitely a cultural issue. I see wastage more as spending funds over and over again on the same thing when a solution was available in the first place that may have cost you just a little more. In regards to making a choice between Aluminum and roof tiles, I am not sure if I am qualified to answer that question at this moment. I am new to the market and still researching costs. I will have to evaluate and compare between both choices to decide if the roof shingles and decking are worth the local costs involved. One will also have to evaluate the value of the beauty aspect of using shingles as well. I am assuming that the roofing tiles that you mention are the asphaltic shingles that are common in the U.S. However, the answer also applies if you are referring to Spanish tiles. Now, my question to you: Do you own or have access to Land in Lekki that you will be interested in looking at a development J/V in? |
Hmm, If I give you some plans for free, will you give me the second bungalow? lol. Here's some of my work to give you ideas.
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Pennywise:Na wah oh, Sista, you want me to give you all this information for free? Anyway, let me tell you how we do it in America first, and then we can think of the best way to approach Naija. First we put up our roof trusses, which can either be manufactured or rafters built up at the site. Next we deck the complete roof with plywood or OSB boards. Then we wrap the whole roof with 30# or 40# felt. Felt is an Asphalt paper that is water proof. The roof tiles or shingles are then laid on this. We have 25, 30 and 40 year roofs depending on the budget for the project. The ratings 25, 30, and 40 years are a form of warranty on the expected lifetime of the shingles. Roof rafters are typically run anywhere between 16" to 24" on center. In Nigeria, what I have noticed a lot of people doing is to nail aluminum directly on rafters without any decking or felt. and then they use tar over the nails. I personally do not see how they get away with this. What I will suggest to reduce cost if there were roofing sheets strong enough to hold people working on it is to run purlings perpendicular to the rafters which will provide support from falling sideways. Then the roofs will have the support necessary. If the budget allows then we should use the same system as I described earlier since we have the raw material available (Granite and tar). Note that we also run gutters on the edge of the cornice. Circulation of air through the roof (Ventilation) must not be forgotten which prevents the wood from rotting. This is usually done with ridge vents, continuous eve vents and the turtle backs. For my personal home, I will do it correctly!!!! . Okay now Sista, you owe me naw. |
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Here is a renovation project that I thought I'd share: Client: Popular Gospel group Manager, Wife = Gospel Singer Issues: Client has tour Bus that has to be garaged and cannot be parked in driveway, plus 3 more garages for cars. Needs am in-house music studio, and 3 Master Suites complete with jacuzzi tubs. Also add enclosed pool and tennis court. Major problem with adversely sloping lot. Solution: Diagonal garage for Bus. Cut grade to allow for height of bus and add retaining walls accordingly, but line up second floors with existing for access between old and new. Various upgrades within existing and use existing garage as additional recreational room. Terraced retaining walls on right side to cut into hill. Move cut fill to back to allow level area for Tennis court. Do a split level between studio and enclosed pool, and wrap terrace around pool leading to Tennis court.
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I find this thread interesting because of the various opinions that have been expressed. Some people have added comments that are quite knowledgeable while others have given it a street twist. Being a Design/Builder in the U.S, I can authoritatively say that there are many factors involved in building a home, and the cost varies widely as well. Unless the quality and finishes are specified, then you are leaving yourself open to the builders interpretation. I'll give an example: One can build a 5000 squarefoot home in Macon Georgia for around $200,000.00 not counting the Real Estate price, But a 5000 squarefoot home in Buckhead, Atlanta may cost $2,000,000.00 not including the real Estate. You have to consider that the cost of imported Italian gold veined Marble that may go in the Foyer of the Buckhead home, combined with a nice curved staircase may exceed the $200,000.00 of building the same home in Macon Georgia. We are only talking about the finishes of the Foyer alone. It is therefore advisable to always compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges.
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beknown:I appreciate your advice and encouragement. As stated in a previous post, I treat all my clients the same with respect regardless of if they are Superstars or Joe Blo next door. So far, my experience in Nigeria makes me question if I will be able to do business with the average Nigerian with wealth. The culture seems to promote self-aggrandizement and the demeaning of others. You have to understand that after College in Philadelphia and moving to Atlanta in 1984, I have had minimal exposure to Nigerians. The last time I visited home until recently was in 1983, and have had a serious culture shock since returning. After over 20 years of dealing with various clients, it is natural that one develops a 6th sense for characters. I therefore can feel potential troublesome clientele and know to avoid them, but in Nigeria it seems honestly and integrity is a rare trait which causes me to be very discouraged. One has to learn to sense honesty and assume everyone dishonest. An example is this stranger who comes here making various false allegations. In my paradigm, this person will have to be a lunatic. But in Nigeria, it seems to be acceptable for people to openly show what Obasanjo terms as "Bad Belle". How does a person operate in a society devoid of conscience or morals? I am sincerely thinking to pack-up and head back to what I know. However, I have found much beauty in the Land itself, and hope to be able to add to it's development. In summary, yes I am open to clients and collaborations if we share common values such as honesty and integrity. I will be honoured to work with people such as I describe. Thanks |
Pennywise:Pennywise: Thank you Sista. It will be interesting for this guy to reveal himself. I do not doubt that it is the same Negro_Mts with his bad belle. Some can hide behind their anon status due to their mischievious ways. I have my picture in my profile here and I doubt if you can find a single person that knows me who will question my integrity. I have worked and paid my dues without compromising my integrity or getting involved in any kind of fraud all my life. |
ant01:Thanks Ant01. I appreciate the advice and heads-up. Have a good night. |
ajileko:Negro_Mts, is this the best you can do? At least we now know ythat your alter-ego is Ajileko. It's a befitting name for a 419 guy who has been programmed for self hate. Because you live in a world of deceit does not mean that you should project your life unto others. I bet you find it hard to see anything good in anything Black or African. You have been mentally shackled with low self esteem and expectations. Run along now, |
aysometin:Sistergirl, N30,000 is 1/50 of 1.5 Million Naira, which is the same as 2%. Are your margins really that tight? I will sincerely suggest that you consider it as a 2% discount for goodwill. The rambling up and down is doing more damage to your potential business than what it is worth. It is starting to seem like a case of being penny wise and pound foolish. This is no longer an issue of being wrong or right. It is about being business savvy. |
This thread is for more fulfilling purposes that idle talk about people. Use your time more wisely. I stand by my statements though. If you can't handle it, oh well. |
When you say POP ceilings are you talking about Gypsum Boards, also known as sheet rock? Do you also have sheet-rock mud, tape and finishing tools? I know that when you say they are fire-proof, you really mean fire-rated. Now are they 2 hr, 3hr or 4hr rated? I' will like more information on your products. Please post pictures. Thanks |
Thanks for your response. Will be in touch. |
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