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SayGod:
OGBENI nothing like selective justice..... ALLL MAN dun deface, disgrace, render useless, infact swear for naira

idris case different, you cannot be gay and noisy in this country...... NEVER!!!!!!

Where's the evidence that he's gay?

Phantom233:
Bobrisky de use money take promote homosexualism , that's Why he is being punished .

And where's the evidence of this?

bemeruca:
see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bZnaETFwpE

You just proved my point... Events like black lives matter protests due to George Floyd's death and also covid made him endorse Biden.
People thought Dems handled or would have handled the pandemic better.

He definitely didn't like how Trump handled it... I've always thought it'd be extremely ard for any president to survive in that enforcement.

He's definitely liberal on social issues but he's not a Trump-hating leftist.

Kennedy's unexpected flip to challenge Biden shows that Biden has a problem with some demographics and he's definitely losing voters (at the moment).
But we'd see how it translates to November

RenaissanceGuy:
Since Police have decided to turn a blind eye to Bobrisky, EFCC decided to step in out of moral prodding.

Where's the evidence that Bob is gay?

bemeruca:
He is a leftist. In the past, like the last election he was promoting leftist crap. Boxers or fighters in general tend to be conservatives but the rock was loud in his anti Trump last election.

The fact he knows Biden has been a disaster and won't endorse anyone shows he does not want to face scrutiny from the elites.

lol . He's a former wrestler...Ever since he joined Hollyweird, they conformed him.

I haven't seen Dwayne talk bad against Trump except on his endorsement of Biden last cycle (I may be wrong though)... I knew many celebs that were suffering from TDS but The Rock wasn't really in the spotlight.

In all, I think he's the kinda person that'd vote 3rd party.
Even if he ends up voting for Biden, I'm happy he spoke out against him... I'd give Trump some talking points and destroy some narratives.

raumdeuter:
Most people in Hollywood are leftists which was why I assumed he would be one too

They are at the forefront of the gender identity issues for example

I understand you but inasmuch Dwayne is likely left-leaning he's not a rabid leftist.
The one person I don't trust is Michael Rappaport.

The Rock openly speaking up against Biden will definitely sway lots of undecided voters... I'm not saying they definitely vote Trump but they may not vote at all or simply vote 3rd party.

I hope RFK jnr would do great harm to Biden's campaign m... It'd be the biggest FU of the decade.
Kennedy is getting on the ballots on most swing states that'll matter.
I think he's on 12 states officially so far.

The Dems is only trying to use fear to get people to vote Biden again but it won't work like it did in 2020... No one has the capacity to be a dictator in an American setting.
It's all fear-mongering.

raumdeuter:
I dont believe those leftists cos by election day, they will find a way to walk back their talks
Who will these leftist now vote or they will sit it out?

I doubt Rock is a leftist... He looks more like a centrist although he may be quite liberal on some issues but we don't know his positions yet.
He's just like Matthew Mccoughney.

He said he has donated to both Dems and Repubs years back... He looks more like a swing voter.
The type that'll vote Kennedy..

Remember he didn't endorse in 2016.

I think he endorsed Biden because of the events (Covid etc) that led the cycle and also Biden posed as a unifying of which he's not now.
The Rock even said he regrets that endorsement and Biden has failed to unite the country.

broadman20:
You forgot that the senate has rules and regulations guiding her which is empowered by the law of the federal republic of NIGERIA.

Which law is that? Which part of the constitution?
If there's any, there should be a process where the matter is debated and deliberated before a vote call is brought to the floor where it's decided.

Not some bunch of agbada-wearing fascists deciding to disenfranchise quarter of a state's electorate.

shortgun:
Lawless rascals, the senate doesn't have the power to suspend a senator or any legislator.
I wonder the version of the constitution these miscreants read

I wonder too.
His electorate voted him into power and they alone should recall or remove him.

What's the need of going to vote in Nigeria when judges determine who finally holds the mantle?

Of what use is the people's votes when a bunch of charlatans can disenfranchise a whole constituent by suspending their leader without their endorsement?

Dwayne Johnson said he won't support Biden again.
Leftists wanna tell us Trump is losing voters and Biden isn't.
The narrative falls flat!

vowiski:
Dead case

Bob is enjoying this free publicity

Such a clown show of charges filled with BS.
Not a fan of Bob but this case is a disgrace for our anti-graft body... Total waste of time and valuable resources.

There has been pressure from Nigerians for EFFC to go after Bob under the unfounded allegations that he's gay... It's like them going after squirrels (internet fraudsters) than the big fish (politicians and influential).
Stop going after petty cases... Leave it for the police.

Stop these distractions and get to real work.

folake4u:
I totally get your point but let's put it this way. Let's put aside "gospel-propagating Christian", he is a brand on his own and it is within his own right to protect the brand's image.

Lol I agree we're not in military rule but this is Nigeria, people are gullible, there's also herd mentality, rumours and rumour mongers who spread false information about people and people unknowingly accept that narrative without knowing the truth.

There's also the civil courts for that too. Yes.
But oh well....

Looool I see where you're headed though.

Yeah he's within his own right but he doesn't have to trample on other people's right to protect his. Like I said, one has to go through the process...this norm of using law enforcement to suppress dissenting opinions has to end. We need to improve our democracy.

I noticed the same thing with other pastors of recent... They arrest people that said things they don't like instead of using their so-called spiritual powers.
Politicians arrest and torture certified journalists, broadcasters and newscasters for speaking against them and we are condemn them... Then why can't we do the same to our religious leaders?
They aren't infallible neither are they demigods.

Yes, Nigerians have herd mentality because of illiteracy, ignorance and intellectual laziness imbedded within the core tenets of our behavior and everyday lifestyle... They refuse to research and draw their own conclusions and it's also the same reason they worship politicians and religious characters.

They're too gullible but that shouldn't make anyone overreach to flex their muscles... Let's follow due process as ascribed in a democratic setting.

GloriousGbola:
bloggers in nigeria are out of control

they belive there are no consequences and so they literally publish anything in the pursuit of clicks

this is quite literally the only language they understand

last year a KNOWN blogger was going to publish a leak video of tiwa savage that he somehow got hold of. the only thing she could eventually do was release the tape before the useless blogger

in most other parts of the world you only release nudes of others anonymously. but in nigeria and most of africa there is a leak industry where people post and make money off peoples nudes without hiding their identiies

this is also about sending a message - there will be consequences . it is even worse in a country like nigeria ful of bitter paupers who want the lives of others to be miserable and who will jump on any story, no mater how absurd and ridiculous it is

Mobad is dead and different clowns on the interent who never knew him or his wife in person are alleging with zero evidence that the mans son is for someone else. this is where we are. any clout chasing idiot with a twitter account or blogger looking for clicks can write anything and 'dare you to do your worst because the average nigerian does not have the resources to petition police and therfore has to suffer with his reputation sullied so some idiot can get five minutes of internet clout for a mob of bitter riff raff

Bloggers in Nigeria are not out of control... In fact they're restricted...Check US and UK media and see what the free press means.

RealTrump:
If there is a bet on the result of a DNA test on that child, I know EXACTLY where I will place my bet.

However, he is also right to arrest them...butttttttt

No right to arrest them at all... It's a civil matter not a criminal one.

folake4u:
Yes, most definitely.

You have to use "vawulence" to drive home a point these days and I'm glad he went this route though.

Not glad he did because he went contrary to his beliefs as a gospel-propagating Christian.

And NO! He shouldn't use any form military to drive home his points... We're not in a military rule.
We have the civil courts go take care of issues like this.

Besides some of these people are shady... Always with a skeleton in there cupboard.
So don't ever expect someone in such caliber to accept guilt.

niggaman:
So whats your take on the Erisco and the lasy reviewers case?

I think Erisco's case is a lot different from this... She made strong statements that are tantamount to defamation.

People were mostly against Erisco in his method... That was a civil case and not criminal.

Police shouldn't be involved... If you think you're defamed then serve her a lawsuit demanding millions compensation then watch her retract those statement.

His aim was to threaten her into admission of falsehood and lies using the law enforcement but it seems to be backfiring.

The rich has always being known to use the military to oppress their foes instead of using the law... It's an authoritarian stuff synonymous to 3rd world countries especially in Africa.

folake4u:
Lol yeah.

I see you're a learned colleague.

But intimidation tactics is the best way for them to retract such statements. Anytime they hear 'sue", they always go into panic mode. I'm sure he's using that to drive home his point.

They will retract it definitely.

Yeah they'll likely cower and retract it.
That's how it works in a Banana Republic...Trust me!

Angelfrost:
Below is one of them (heard the idiot has come running forward with an apology).

I think it's his opinion.
He's only commenting and not defaming...unless there's another strong writeup on his factuality (you know the kinda words you'd use if you're sure).

Bassey would have to prove this statement caused him irreparable harm and what compensation this amounts to.

I still think he'd have threatened a direct lawsuit if there was a case instead of ordinary petition... What do you think?

Saintzykie:
That is your problem. Intellectual laziness. Only a fool speaks without facts. In your quest to sound brilliant you've exposed yourself.

I'm done with you... Don't come to my mentions again.

Angelfrost:
Sigh... Now, I see you clearly lack understanding of the true facts of this matter.

Please, do some research!

Several hundreds of people actually said the child resembles Bassey... This is relatively a non-issue, and certainly not the issue here.

These ones specifically went beyond mere speculating and trolling.

They actually claimed that Mercy Chinwo and Nathaniel Bassey had an affair, disguising it as "Musical Collaboration" and studio sessions... That the affair produced that child.

One of them actually accused Mercy Chinwo of trying to pass on Bassey's child to her husband.

I'm only stating a trend among the well-to-do... To my own knowledge of the event.

You can show me proof to your last paragraph... From one of the accused in this case.

If the 4 accused actually made direct statements then he can sue them for defamation.

Saintzykie:
You are obviously ignorant about the facts of this case despite writing an epistle.

You made no sense to me since you couldn't state the facts.

folake4u:
Lol. I'm not using scare tactics.

I mean the gospel singer is using intimidation tactics to get them retract.
The gospel singer won't like a defamation trial.

pek:
Obviously you don't know the rudiment of law. The onus of proof is on him who allegges.

Except they didn't allege... Never claimed it was his child - only said they strike a resemblance.

He's using intimidation tactics to cower them just like the average wealthy Nigerian that thinks he can buy his/her way with money.

I'm sure his lawyers has told him he has no case and that's why resorted to this.

The cyberstalking/bully charges are frivolous and baseless... No competent judge signs off on that.

Angelfrost:
He is probably pitying them... He has a soft heart.

What they did are actually constitutional crimes.

Not pity but ego... He sees them as ants worth crushing without a sweat since they may not be in his class.
That's the same tactics the affluent use in Nigeria... He'd have sued them if they're well-known or in the same class.

Besides a defamation trial would involve him coming to court and taking the stand... Alot would be blown wide which may require the judge ordering a DNA test.
The trial alone would be high-profiled, bringing unnecessary drama that'll further taint him... I'm sure he doesn't want that. He has a lot to lose.

In all, I think he has no case that's why he didn't sue at all... The cyberstalking and bullying allegations are frivolous and baseless.

I'm into law so I can tell you the defamation allegation is also nonsense if the defendant never substantiated that it's a fact... They never claim it's his child.

He's making a mountain of a molehill.

Angelfrost:
Good move... Lessons must be taught.

This report gladdens my heart.

You online riff-raffs need to be disciplined by the law... You imbeciles have abused this "freedom of speech" thing for too long.

He's technically threatening them through the law enforcement to get them to withdraw the statement.
Why is he not suing for defamation instead?

folake4u:
And who told you he will lose in court?

How will you feel if you birth a child and someone jokingly says the child looks like your best friend.

Put yourself in his shoes and answer truthfully.

He'll lose if he can't prove they're lying.
Stop using scare tactics.

maxiuc:
A case that he will loose woefully

I said haaaaa this boy really looked like you so what's crime in that

He's using intimidation tactics... That's what the rich do in 3rd world countries.

He's alerting the police to go after them as a means to get them to retract their statement instead following the civil-legal means which is suing for defamation.

He knows in a defamation trial, the case would be blown open and garner attention which may lead to the judge ordering a DNA test.

Notice the pattern... None of them sue the poor/lower class they scare them.
That's what we see in authoritarianism.

Cc: raumdeuter

raumdeuter:
Since Obi chose to attack and react to everything like concentrated acid



Tinubu merged his ACN with CPC to form APC. Today there is nothing like ACN anymore

Unlike Obi who abandoned APGA to PDP to LP all 3 parties are still in existence today

You're wrong on this one.

Nigerians are used to asslicking and being sycophants for the affluent and powerful... Which is bad.

Obi is in the opposition so he's doing a modest job acting as a check and balance as it's meant to be in a democracy.

Political prostitution (carpetbagging) is the norm in Africa especially Nigeria so Obi isn't the first but can he be the last?

Obi shouldn't be attacked for not being supportive of the government after a brutally contested race with all the shenanigans and brouhaha therein. The country has been in bad shape even more than the ruins Buhari left.

Tinubu should appeal and bring together those who didn't vote for him and not further ostracize them.

Good governance and effectiveness should cap it all.

raumdeuter:
Laurene
Florida abortion law, won't this put a safe red state into play?

Not really.
Florida has nearly 1 million more registered Republicans and they'll be out-voting the Dems by 2:1...Dems have to get 15 to 20 percent of Repubs to vote for Biden in that 2:1 advantage in order to put it in play and we all know it's not gonna be possible. Yes significant amount of Rs would vote for the proposal but it won't hurt Trump or Rick Scott because they'll split their ballot to vote for them.

Trump is facing Biden and not some popular or charismatic democrat and Trump is more moderate on abortion than Haley and DeSantis (he spoke out against the 6 weeks law while supporting 15 weeks ban).

Democrats would be coping. No house seat or legislative seat is competitive. Yes Dems would try to galvanise their base to vote but the problem is their base is shrinking in Florida.
It'd have much effect in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania...Not that it necessarily helps Biden much there too. Biden's biggest dark huddle this fall would be his "weakness and 3rd partiers".

It'll just be like 2004 when same sex marriage ban was on ballot in states like Michigan, Ohio PA, Wisconsin etc. Bush thought he'd capitalize on the unpopularity of same sex marriage then to win Michigan and PA.

It may fail though because it needs 60 percent to pass in Florida (I think). If it's 50% threshold then it likely passes. High turnout of low propensity voters that support Trump may hinder it from passing.
Kansas measure got 59 percent and Ohio got 57 percent.

Florida is gone for the democrats... Roe v Wade in 2022 didn't impact in Florida at all. The state would move more to the R federally this cycle.
Trump would be beating Biden by at least 1.25 million votes (approx. 9 to 11 percent).

IamGreen1:
The last statement isn't necessary

was a typo... Not not now

shortgun:

I rest my case

He proves your point.