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callmeDDD:
Do you know much about yt monetisation or you are just assuming? Just a honest question though. There are hundreds of thousands of people that makes 4 to 5 figures from Nigeria randomly per month. It's all about the type of niches and audiences you have not the location. You can be in Nigeria and majority of your audiences in top tier countries like US and Canada or Germany. It's what I learnt for years and I am into not just random thinking bro. Ballers dey Nigeria. I can mention 1 or 2 people that are crazily rich through yt but are very silent.

I don't know much about YT monetisation actually but 100 million naira a month paid by a company to an individual is huge. I am not saying people are not making money but the company must make money, pay staff before content creators can make money. I know if your content is engaging and your followers are many then the opportunity is there but I have heard of YT demonetizing accounts for having too many followers more or less. They won't lose as they own the platform. Then to build up followership takes time.

You can also make money from your audience directly via subscription if you have something to offer them which they are ready to subscribe for.
If he is making that much money, it may be through subs but how much is a company like MTN making through subs in Nigeria despite having many staff and fuelling generators across the country?. I am not saying it is not possible though but it is hard to believe

ariesbull:
If non Yoruba are less than 3% as you said ...why is it that during the Christmas people travel out Lagos is usually empty? Why is it that Yoruba are always worried of non Yoruba taking over Lagos ?

Non Yoruba are less than 3 percent in SW states outside Lagos. I don't know the figure for Lagos but anybody can sponsor the research to find out by selecting like one hundred random schools across the state and check the ethnic composition of the students. This research can't cost 500k.

Are Yoruba really worried about non Yoruba taking over Lagos? No. They only respond to online commentaries. They will start getting worried when non Yoruba can win up to five percent of Lagos' elective posts.

callmeDDD:
Yes, kind of. I hate lies. Thank God for technology, he would have bobo us. Many will still fall victims. Someone that can make such money in current Nigeria situation and a YouTuber is that pastor Jerry Eze. He understands YouTube money and that's why he is always on yt with hours of live streaming.
Second person likely mark angel in this same comedy section but far from even 5 figures monthly. The day I saw that he makes lots of money, I was "waoed". Reason: many of his contents are viewed from Australia. I don't know how he did that but it is what it is. Saggi will hardly makes 500 dollars on yt monthly. At worst, may be 1k from his current state of his channel that I am looking at.

Can anybody in Nigeria actually make that amount from YT? What is even YT revenue? What audience can a Nigerian draw and etc are the questions. I don't think anybody in Nigeria can make that much per month from YT

Nefort:
Lagos is the commercial centre of Nigeria so there should be no big surprises if Easterners move to Lagos to take advantage of the bustling commercial activity. But I want proof that Easterners are also moving to other parts of South west in large numbers as you claim.
Gbenga Daniel saying anything is still not proof that Easterners are moving to every south west state in large numbers. Lagos State alone could gulp majority of the 21% population and the remaining would be majority Yorubas in other south west states

SW is more than 21 percent of Nigeria. The number of Yoruba in other cosmopolitan cities of Nigeria are more than the non Yoruba in the SW. Have you noticed that the last incidence in Jos still have Yoruba among the victims? Lagos isn't the most cosmopolitan city in Nigeria. That would be Abuja but Lagos is the most populated. Lagos isn't more cosmopolitan than PH or Kaduna.
According to NIN registration, Lagos is less than half of the SW while it has around equal population with the SE, half of Rivers and Delta North altogether. Lagos is 40 to 45 percent of the SW by population

How things run in Nigeria

When GEJ was there, the Ohanaeze Ndigbo announced that it will be the turn of the SE after GEJ not minding that GEJ is from the old Eastern region.

When Buhari got there the Fulani still wanted to replace him with Atiku another Fulani in 2019 via an Atiku Obi ticket. The SW voted Buhari Osinbajo and Buhari won his second term to pave way for the Yoruba

In 2023 after the 8 year long Buhari administration the Fulani moved to the PDP to contest the Presidency since a Fulani candidate would not fly in the APC but they lost as Atiku came second.

It should be expected that some Yoruba will move to another party to contest even if Tinubu spends eight years. Whether they will win or not can't be known for now but they will certainly do the same thing that the Fulani did. They will do it even if there is zoning in the constitution by then because like no other group, they are the largest group in the south and the second largest in the North.

In 2027, it is actually Kwankwaso Obi or Atiku Obi that can mobilize Northern Muslim votes easily and Fulani support and not Obi Kwankwaso. This is obvious if you have been paying attention. Obi Kwankwaso can only mobilize SE votes, Christian votes and etc. If Atiku and Kwankwaso both participate in the primaries it may give Obi an edge since Northern delegates will split especially if southern candidates step down for Obi.

There is no reason to leave Kwankwaso Obi out of contention while discussing only Atiku Obi and Obi Kwankwanso as options though I don't think any Northern Muslim can for now become President without Yoruba support.

Obi Kwankwaso can only win if Northern Muslims are ready to vote massively for a Christian candidate from the SE but it will be like working ninety percent for others and ten percent for yourself which makes it unlikely and this is aside the fact that Kwankwanso is senior to Obi in politics.

When you look at everything the best way forward remains to divide the country

Streetinvestor2:
INEC glitch gave him 25% in 30 states.Then he gave u stipend job with free laptop...lol

You can't engage intelligently. I have noticed that much about you. You don't have the capacity to make quality comments

Atiku had at least 25 percent in 21 states
Obi had at least 25 percent in 16 states
Tinubu had at least 25 percent in 30 states

Nobody can be declared winner unless they have 25 percent in 24 states. They won't be declared winner even if they had the majority of votes. Atiku or Obi could not have been declared winner even if they had more votes than Tinubu because they did not have the spread required by the constitution.

This is actually not right because states like Kano or Lagos weigh up to five states each while Oyo, Ogun, Kaduna, Katsina weigh more than two states each by population

Hedonisco:
The claim that Obi would lose votes by deputizing Atiku is laughable.

The Atiku/Obi ticket polled 11.2 million votes in 2019, against the 'almighty' Buhari’s 15 million votes. For context, the despicable Tinubu scavenged, burgled, artificed and smuggled mere 8 million votes from all corners of the underworld to become a barely legitimate president, yet he is doing the most. Lol.

The simple question to ask is: If any Obi supporter refuses to vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket, what are the options? Vote for Tinubu or abstain? To be sure, abstaining is an indirect vote for Tinubu.

In Nigeria of today, nobody outside the core South West (excluding Urban Lagos), Kwara and Kogi states) would rather vote for Tinubu than an Atiku/Obi ticket. Take that to the bank.

Any high sounding political talk about 'Southern Presidency' does not resonate with the average non-Yoruba voter who can objectively see how Tinubu has destroyed the economy and just wants him to get out. Don't let anyone deceive you.

Besides, everyone can see the extreme yorubalization of the Federal Government and so it would be a joke to tell the average person in the South East or South South to support a so-called 'Southern Presidency' that has alienated them more than any Northern presidency ever did.

So urban Lagos that voted for Obi with a small margin and then voted APC in other elections is different from the rest of the SW? Why do you think LP won only the Presidency in urban Lagos and failed in the rest?. Why are you not saying Osun that voted for Atiku will vote for him again? Why only urban Lagos? At least Atiku won in Osun just like Obi won in Lagos. I think Atiku won with a wider margin in Osun than Obi did in Lagos

70 k dollars per month is like 100 million naira every month. Only a few top CEOs in the country earn up to that. Definitely not up to one hundred individuals in the whole country maybe not up to fifty and they pay personal income tax. I hope he is paying his personal income tax

Kukutente23:
You're not following me. Anyone with basic knowledge of governance will tell you that military and generally instruments of enforcement are the ones that give a state its sovereignty and stability. So in the sense of a state's corporate existence, the state force appaatchik is more important than any other office even that of the president. So why shouldn't we determine representation by the number of people a tribe or constituent contribute to the stability of the state instead of using the state purse? I don't think the state purse is superior to enforcement apparatus
Control of natural resources is carried out by human beings. The natural crude does not flow to the surface by itself. So denying people's contribution in terms of natural resources is simply hypocritical. I don't know where you got the idea that cattle can rival oil in today's world economy but that's not even an issue for me.
My point is that you can't pick a single parameter like taxation to advocate for representation. That's highly biased and unfair

In a civilized settings you can not say the person with the biggest guns should be ordering other people around. That does not happen in any civilized society. The only thing that makes a constituency ahead of another in a civilized setting is the economy or the size of the GDP which is a direct result of the population other things being constant. The constituency with the larger population will have a larger GDP and a larger government revenue as a result other things being constant. We are no longer in that era of might is right.

Again if you give all the oil in Nigeria to the states that bear them, Bayelsa will still have like one tenth of Lagos or Kano GDP. Yes cattle can be more than oil. There are countries making more from cattle than Nigeria makes from oil. Cattle consumed in Lagos per day will be close to ten thousand heads, all over the country per day will be up to seventy thousand heads and there is still dairy products.

You can pick taxation to determine representation at the center because revenue can not be faked unlike census figures. I wonder why you can't see this

ProudlyLagos:
😂😂 you are indeed very slow……continue shifting goal posts, now it it aside from Lagos…..so Lagos is the only Sw state along Lagos/Ibadan and Benin ore road? And I guess you read the post I pasted where Senator Gbenga Daniel acknowledged the fact that Sw accounts for 21% of Nigeria total population, or Lagos is the only state in Sw? Like I said you can continue to shift goal post and continue living in denial…..this will be my last response to you…..shalom

Non Yoruba in SW states apart from Lagos is not up to three percent of total population. If population is 30 million then non Yoruba will be less than one million across the five states and they will be from all non Yoruba states across the country. It Maybe even two percent. Even Lagos isn't that much. Anybody can sponsor a research to estimate the percentage of non Yoruba in Lagos by selecting at random like one hundred classrooms in different local governments of the state. The ethnic composition of the students will approximate the ethnic composition of the state as a whole. If we go by who is winning elections then Yorubas are over ninety percent of Lagos population

WhizdomXX:
They don't control moro but the landmass of kwara north is about 60% of the State. That is correct.

Then there are some Yoruba in Kwara North. Right? Like Moro and Jebba. Am I correct? What Bariba control will be the Northwestern part of the state and it may be half of the sixty percent you mentioned or thereabouts. The King of Jebba has under him like 33 towns and villages spread from North Kwara to South Niger.

Kukutente23:
Like I said if you want to make taxes a parameter for representation, why do you exclude natural resources in an environment as well? How's that fair? What about the military? Don't you think the tribe with the highest military personnel should have more representation than others

Natural resources are not human beings. I am not talking of resource control here but taxes. Should oil be a substitute for human beings?. Mind you I am not against giving people all their resources, that is another matter entirely. If Kano is organized with everybody paying tax, they will always have ten times the GDP of Bayelsa even if you give all the oil to Bayelsa. They will therefore generate comeasurate revenue. After all Kano can produce and export 5 billion dollars of farm produce per annum and Bayelsa cant. Cattle alone in Kano can rival oil in Bayelsa.

Therefore whatever they have whether farm produce, oil or cattle let them use it to generate revenue and that revenue should determine the representation at the center. Or are Bayelsa and etc not making money from oil already? Oil is an industry already in oil bearing states and it adds to their tax revenue. It does not add to the tax revenue of non oil bearing states. The FG is only taking what the constitution allows it to take.

If there are two thousand oil workers in Bayelsa, they all should be paying income tax to Bayelsa and it will shore up their revenue.

Military personnel are workers and they should pay tax like other workers as they use social amenities. They don't need special privileges. Only to be paid well. Are military personnel more important than farmers or teachers? No. All are important. Productivity is what should determine representation in a federal state

Kukutente23:
Who said taxes cannot be manipulated? What about suppressing one side and inflating the other?
There's something called tax evasion which is a phenomenon where people are averse to paying tax for one reason or the other. If ten million people have aversion to tax while five million people are tax compliant, you'll see a skewed return in relation to population size.
I don't know why you are looking for a metric that's an indicator to population size when population size is a basic metric in itself that's easily obtainable as a primary data with little effort and least error

The tax you pay is your weight. For ten years you pay half the tax I pay and you want equal representation? That wouldn't be fair

A non Yoruba has been governor in Kwara but not during this dispensation and they will still be governor
Ilorin is not an ethnic mix more than Ilesa or Ibadan or Kano
The ethnic groups in Kwara North actually need to have their own state that they control which they can then align as they wish but those ethnic groups don't control 75 percent of landmass because parts of southern Niger contain towns that are under the king of Jebba so if South Niger is Yoruba land how can those ethnic groups control up to 75 percent of Kwara land mass? What they control is the northwestern part of the state which can't be up to 75 percent of the landmass

The NJC and the NBA have not done well for Osun state.

Why is it difficult for the judiciary to say clearly who are the legitimate local government chairmen in Osun state? The federal government has refused to release over one hundred billion naira of local government allocations as at today.

What is the work of the judiciary that they are being paid for if for three years they can not resolve this simple matter?

The judge or judges involved are affiliated with the NBA and the NJC and there is no reason why these bodies should not call them to order. Let the judges involved give a clear and unequivocal ruling no matter who it favours because atimes even injustice can be better than no ruling at all as it will at least bring closure.

The people of Osun state want closure over this matter.

Juren:
Lawani, having read through some of your posts on Nairaland it seems you approach issues from a practical angle and not just out of emotion or ideological and party loyalty.

We have put together a small platform called Project Nigeria for people who want to go beyond the usual political back and forth and have more serious discussions around national development. We want to focus on real issues like electricity, public education, security, taxation, governance, jobs, economic reform, and implementation.

We want to bring together people who can look at problems seriously and discuss workable solutions.

It is on Discord, but the platform itself is not really the main thing. The point is to have a more focused space than Nairaland, where thoughtful people can build on ideas continuously instead of starting from scratch every time.

If you are open to it, I would like to invite you in.

Here is the invite link in case you would like to have a look:
https://discord.com/invite/EPbXXNJUky

I have joined.

Kukutente23:
So what if a state pays less tax but gives the Federal govt over 70% of its resources?
Besides, tax experts will tell you that the best form of taxation is progressive tax whereby each entity pays according to his resources and strength. Flat rate taxes is generally known to be retrogressive because efforts do not always yield same results. So if you're advocating for taxation to be a standard of determination of how much weight a state carries in say voting, how does that cure the retrogression involved in Flat rate taxation?
Lastly, it sounds abnormal to use money as a basis for representation in a democratic system when democracy is about the rule of the majority which is supposed to be a cure for aristocracy which is a rule of the elites? Are you sure you still believe in democracy or you're simply telling us that aristocracy is the best form of govt?

The idea is that many metrics can be manipulated but revenue can not and I don't think it is ever possible for a constituency of 5 million people to pay more tax then a constituency of ten million people if revenue drive and cost of living are the same. So leave people to do their census by themselves and weigh them by their revenue.

Then resources is not population. I am looking for a metric that is an indicator of population size and natural resources don't qualify.

Beautifulday:
When was the last census?

All you mentioned aren't census in anyway because they are people who don't do them. Take example NIN. If you aren't a student why should someone do it?

It's even of recent it became compulsory for students. Now ask for the waec registration of each region and see. That should also be a census too. How about jamb?

Post the waec registration data for peer states and you will see the same thing. One thing about waec the last time I saw it was In the NW more boys than girls and in the SE more girls than boys. That was many years ago. On the overall it will reflect what is in the census.
You can't open a bank account or proceed beyond high school without a NIN, you can't even register a phone to your name. Therefore if you are over 18 in Nigeria, you probably have a NIN number even if you have no BVN

Beautifulday:
You added educated people to sound intelligent but that is far from reality because NIN or voters registration has not replaced census.

The reason no one wants to do census is because of the scam it will expose.

These things you mentioned are by choice.

I know you will say because the number of Igbo in the army is small therefore, they are small.

That's full blown intelligence

They have been doing census, what they didn't do is add ethnicity and religion to it. Then NIN, voters register, BVN, number of internet subscribers, number of active sim cards for voice and etc are also census. If one state beats another in all then it is safe to say it also beat that state in population. State igr is also an indicator but the revenue drive is not uniform is the only drawback. If revenue drive were uniform then the state with the higher population will often have the higher revenue

gidgiddy:
If most Northerners dont want an Igbo man to be President, why do most Northerners still want to be with Igbos in 'one Nigeria?

Someone help me make sense of it?

The main reason appear to be that they depend on revenue from oil and gas from the south but that dependence has greatly reduced now. If no oil money more Northerners will support the breakup of the country. Last year oil was 45 percent of revenue and I believe it will not pass thirty percent this year. If it were ten percent, they will not agree to be ruled with the current constitution.

How can a federal state be fair?

A federating unit must be weighted according to the tax it pays. Not according to the population or according to any other metric but according to it's revenue. A federal state is a corporate body and if a corporate body is being funded or expecting revenue then stakeholdership will be determined by contribution which is a form of shareholding

The revenue will then be spent according to the wishes of the federal government which will be influenced by need and etc.

Such a system will only make the federating units to be competing among themselves in a fair manner leading to a stronger union and more development.

The representation should also be reviewable from time to time say every five to ten years. It should not be static so that every unit will be seeking ways to increase their stature.

The tax you pay as a constituency is something that can not be faked unlike other metrics. However what you get by using taxes is what you are going to get by using census figures if the cost of living in all federating units are the same. The difference can not be substantial.

This also is how the United Nations should be organised

SixSeven:
Which is why a divided opposition is what APC is expecting. Again, don't forget, PDP had told opposition back then the formula and the APC merger took that and used it. They won!

Tinubu is not looking for a popular vote, he is expecting to win 8 out of 10 even if the total number of registered voters in the PU was 100. A win is a win. Complain all you like about voter apathy, go to court he will tell you. Some of us saw his method in Lagos so there are no surprises here. I gave a similar story a few days ago. Agbaje did something in 2007 (with DPA) they never expected, by 2011 they made sure it didn't repeat itself. Agbaje to Lagos then is what Obi is to Nigeria now. They will do everything to paint him as an Igbo candidate and write smear campaigns against him. They are very strong on propaganda. Since then, Agbaje never redeemed his image even using PDP.

Who will the opposition unite behind?. All the candidates have their baggages and to unite behind one person is hard for their followers. It was easy for Buhari because the two biggest zones with a simple majority of voters were behind him. What is best for everybody now is to push for the division of the country so that the unhealthy and unending rivalry will end

Macphenson:
So Jonathan giving a Yoruba person speaker is a greek gift but Tinubu giving it to a northerner is not. In essence Tinubu making Akpabio Senate President is a greek gift. You guys a pathetically foolish. Stop accusing Jonathan wrongly.

It is just like saying Awo betrayed Zik and stopped him from becoming the first premier of the West when they were not even in the same party. Tinubu was not in the PDP and he should not have been expected to work with them to make anybody speaker whether the person is Yoruba or not. The PDP can not install a speaker on their own despite controlling the house?. Then GEJ could have found other ways to compensate the Yoruba with other posts given that they are around thirty percent of the country's population but there were virtually no Yoruba on his team. If this country were being run by taxes the Yoruba will not agree to less than forty percent of the positions.

All of you should join hands together to seek the dissolution of the country instead of the unproductive going back and forth

Svoboda:
You're comparing a shagari, a Fulani, who wasn't this unpopular, and got majority of his votes from his region, to a Tinubu from the southwest, who seems to have betrayed those who gave him majority of his votes, which was outside his region?

I just pointed out that Tinubu's margin of victory isn't the lowest in the country's history and that the person with the lowest won his second term bid. When four strong contenders compete then nobody can win with a wide margin but someone will still win

SixSeven:
In the three times he appeared on the general ballot for the presidency, Atiku Abubakar received

- 2,637,848 votes (7.47%) in 2007 to finish third,

- 11,262,978 votes (41.22%) in 2019 to finish second, and

- 6,984,520 votes (29.07%) in 2023 to finish second once again.


In the first time the candidate he contested with in 2019 (that gave Atiku his highest vote ever) went to test his popularity in 2023, tell me what was the numbers that candidate got. It's really growing

Aside Obi and Kwankwanso, no other politician has been able to prove themselves ALONE outside the establishment.

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Obi has the brightest chance going by the last election result followed by Kwankwanso. I choose these two because they left PDP and did not have the structure of the regular party, which Atiku benefitted from using the PDP platform. You also have to look at the time they had to test themselves between the election primaries and election.

If you want to know what that means, Ribadu ran the Presidential election in 2011 under AC and failed with that party structure. Obi and Kwankwanso have been able to test their popularity as candidates outside the regular establishments and done well. Both had no Governors in their party before contesting and pulled a good number in the last election. Buhari used his CPC to bargain with AC to get the Presidential slot in APC. Buhari could say whether he used ANPP or CPC, he could gather votes. I'm not so sure Atiku can do that. He was a presidential candidate of the Action Congress in the 2007 presidential election coming in third to Umaru Yar'Adua of the PDP and Muhammadu Buhari of the ANPP. Atiku came a distant third in that election with less than 10% of the votes.


Obi and Saraki/Kwankwanso

A Saraki will be a difficult campaign for APC that has defaulted to using tribes against themselves. Saraki ticks two boxes of Yoruba/North Central who have been looking for relevance since Gowon.

Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed tinubu was not a popular president elect

Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received.

1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes.

2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes.

2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes.

2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes.

2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes.

2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes.

2023 – Bola Ahmed tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes.


A United opposition will defeat tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.

Fact: Tinubu remains the most unpopular president to have won the Presidential elections. He is the easiest to kick out. Back then, PDP told AC, CPC and opposition parties when they were reigning that to kick us out, you need to unite as opposition. That's what they learned in 2015.

Alhaji Shagari got a lower percentage than Tinubu in his first term yet won the second term. The percentage one person can get depends on incumbency factor and the number and weight of contestants

A welfare state can't be affected by automation


A state where the government looks out for everybody can not be affected by automation because there are already programs like unemployment benefits. They only need to add the right to a means of livelihood as a fundamental human right. It is important to add this right to the list of fundamental human rights because it is a basic right and a human being should be expected to commit crime if no other way to earn a living.

In a communist state, automation will be a positive for them. It will be a welcome development since it is a no one left behind society and it is only a full fledged capitalist economy with no regulations that have anything to fear from automation. The more the automation in a communist state the more it favours the workers because they will simply have more free time

Robots can not compete for managerial jobs. Robots can not do research and robots can not lead, robots can not innovate, so robots are not really competition for human beings in a sufficiently advanced society. Robots can also not take all non managerial posts. Academic work alone can employ all human beings but it will not be possible in a country with an abysmally low tax to GDP ratio.

In what I call a free market communist economy where employment is guaranteed and overtime increase in net worth is also guaranteed by statute, automation will not be a problem and government policy will actually be geared towards expanding automation.

9japride:
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You guys just make funny statements. Tell that to those who haven't travelled up north.
The landmass is full of scanty settlements.
The population is very small.

So the NIN registration and voters registration are fake? The VAT and CIT they now pay are fake? Nigeria is no longer depended on oil money as it was and it is now easy to compare the population of regions using the tax they pay

Beautifulday:
Obi doesn't need to win. He just needs to proof to the next generation that a man of character can actually contest for election in Nigeria.

However, Obi cannot win if he doesn't contest.

Is the north bigger than the east in population?

No! But people like you make the east think voting is useless so they don't vote.

The Northwest alone is more than triple the population of the SE. Why are you even asking this question when NIN and voter registration data is in the open? It is sad that educated people with internet access are asking this type of question

Cross incarnation between cultures

According to the research I did with the Ifa oracle, there can be cross incarnation between cultures ie the same spirit incarnating in different cultures at different times if and only if there is interaction between those two cultures. Otherwise you can only incarnate as a spirit where you have incarnation rights ie among your own Earth family or spiritual family members. If you are within one hundred filial generations then you are spiritual family.

Interaction between cultures can be in many forms including marriage and war etc. All the spirits of German soldiers killed by Russians during the second world war would have reincarnated as Russians in the Earth family of the Russians that killed them and vice versa. After they live out that incarnation they can return to their original line in their old country while they retain incarnation rights in their new line. Cross incarnation goes on like that indefinitely for two interactive cultures. The Biafran soldiers killed by the Nigerian soldiers during the Nigerian civil war reincarnated as Nigerians and vice versa. One marker is that if their new country is at war with the country of their last incarnation then it will benefit them in some way.

However, fully matured spirits who are primary protectors are not affected by this rule as they will always go back to their own line that they can lay claim to to be reincarnated.

An English man with a German spirit will tend to be sympathetic to Germany naturally because of past incarnations but being raised by English parents will ensure it does not matter a lot. However the maturity level of a spirit is what matters most and there are eight levels of God like managerial ability according to my research. A spirit is due for promotion at every third incarnation but it is not impossible for a spirit to rise through the ranks in just one incarnation. To be promoted to the next level of Godlike managerial ability, your two primary protectors must agree.

dettolgel:
It is either you are underestimating the desperation of the sitting president or I am exaggerating to what extend he will go to keep himself on that sit?

He wasn't more desperate than GEJ who lost. He can't rig by himself if he wants to rig. There is nothing he can do to win if he does not have enough people supporting him.