₦airaland Forum

jahbenedict:
In terms of energy source, gas is one of the most efficient to produce. From the little I know, gas is the most viable energy source for Nigeria. We have some much gas reserves that using it as an energy source makes the most sense. There is no state in the South-South, and South East that doesn't have gas reserves, Lagos and Ondo as well. We flare so much gas, that it is ridiculous. What is missing is the pipeline network to evacuate the gas to end users, and the political will to ensure that this is achieved.

Can gas do what wind did in some European countries? Impossible. No matter how cheap you still have to buy gas and you have to evacuate it by pipeline or by truck

Fejoku:
There is nothing like Yorubawa community in Northern Nigeria made up of Yorubas who no longer have family members in the SW today. Nothing like that. Yes, some Yorubas exist who have lost connection back to Yorubaland but they've been acculturated there. They're not a community in the sense of it. There are also Igbos in the same category but to a very low numbers in comparison. This is because most Igbos travel home with their kids to show them their place of origin but Yorubas don't do so that much. However, most Yorubas know their states of origin and town but will struggle to identify there grandfather's compound.
The entire Yoruba population in the North INCLUDING Northern Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi is less than 6 million.
Kwara... 3million
Kogi.... 1.2 million
The rest of the entire Northern Nigeria 1.5million.

Yoruba have been living among Hausa since there was a thing called Hausa. There are Yoruba family compounds founded by Hausa not only in Ilorin but even in Lagos and there are Hausa family compounds founded by Yorubas in major Hausa cities. Let us not argue about Yoruba population in the North it is pointless

WhizdomXX:
I meant the point is only scratching the surface of the real reasons of those people don't want this country to be separated.

People who don't want Nigeria to separate are looking for a chance to tread on others. Simple as.

Fejoku:
Whatever the population of Southerners in the North and Northerners in the South, it is immaterial in the division of Nigeria. Every Southerner knows his origin and can easily relocate when the time comes. People should stop reasoning like frogs and start thinking like humans. Nigeria can't protect you, there have a vote of no confidence on Nigeria and part ways with her. Just simple common sense.

So an academic exercise that assuages people's fears is reasoning like a frog to you? Na wa for you o!

Fejoku:
The originator of this thread is a bad student of statistics. You can't just use an outlier state like Osun as a base for comparison of migrants. It doesn't work that way. Osun state can only be used in that sense for few inconsequential states not known for commerce, mining and trade. Some northern states don't fall into that category. For example, Kano, Plateau, Kaduna and Abuja don't fall into that category. Nasarawa and Niger states also are states that benefit from the Abuja spill over. These states don't fit into your Osun category of states for non-indigenes and low southern populations. You've never travelled to the North hence you can't gauge properly the likely populations of Southerners living there.
Prior to the Sharia riots in the North and the subsequent violence that followed against Christians in the region, large numbers of Southerners settled in many smaller towns and even villages there. I'll estimate close to 8 million at the time (1999). However, from year 2000, the number started to drop. States like Borno, Yobe, Bauchi, Adamawa, Taraba and Gombe witnessed a large exodus of Southerners. A good number of them now settled in Abuja swelling it's population. Abuja in 1999 was less than 400,000 people. The same but to a lesser extent happened in the North West states which wasn't heavily affected by Boko Haram campaign. Kano and Kaduna still have a sizeable number of Southerners but new traveller's weren't going there anymore. For the North Central states, the Southerners population was much affected even in Plateau despite the many violence that plagued it.
As of today, the population of Southerners living in the entire North I'll say ranges between 5 to 6 million.

I agree there are some very cosmopolitan cities but they are not many. States that have cosmopolitan cities will have a slightly higher percentage but I believe none will be up to five percent of total. If 4 states of 19 have five percent it still will not have much effect. If Osun does not have one percent Northerners, pray how will Katsina or Yobe have even 0.5 percent southerners? Take up my challenge and publish real stats

Dogalmighty17:
The clown who wrote this article probably hasn't travelled much. He should go to Jos, go to Makurdi, go to Nasarawa state and see the volume of southerners there. Nyanya and Mararaba alone, full of southerners numbering several hundreds of thousands puts his claims on shaky ground.

Is Sabon Gari in Kano a joke to him?

Publish the pupil manifest of ten random classrooms in Northern Nigeria. If you school there you will certainly remember the ethnic composition of your class

AMINDA:
Now that defeat is staring you and Tinubu in the face, you suddenly want Nigeria to break up abi? Why then did Tinubu jail Nnamdi Kanu and why has Sunday Igboho given up his "Yoruba nessan" agitations to become an APC apologist? Una think say una wise abi? Well, Tinubu has less than 8 months to divide the country. Any agitations for breakup after he's voted out by the rest of Nigerians shall be met with brute force.

I have been advocating for breakup for years. Hopefully it will happen. Tinubu has not mentioned that he is in support of a breakup or has he?

You don't have anything to fight with. What brute force? Nigeria is not a super power o and even USSR a super power disintegrated without hassles. Sudan disintegrated and etc

WhizdomXX:
Okay but that is just scratching the surface.

Do you have any reason to believe Southerners in the North exceed 1.5 to 3 million individuals?

WhizdomXX:
Apt. So what are you inferring?

I am clear enough now. Many people say Nigeria should not break up because many Southerners are in the North or Northerners in the South

WizardOfNG:
Few Nigerians are interested in exhaustive research so don't expect many to disprove your summation I personally think is plausible.

I am Yoruba and have a big and considerably extended family. We don't have a single member in the North. Abuja yes but nowhere else in the entire core North (North East and North West) or North Central even.

Unless there is specifically a reason to live in the North, I don't believe many South West folks will choose the region to live in and raise a family in.

You are right but many are there. A Google search will show that Yoruba mechanic workshops in Kano are many. A random Google search shows staff members of a department in ABU to be like majority Yoruba and etc. I have cousins that went to Unimaid and etc. Someone I met in OAU said the largest student union in ABU was Ondo state union. Christians were attacked in Jos in 2008 or so and a majority of Southerners killed were Yoruba. However total southerners in the North will be between 1.5 million and 3 million while Yoruba in North will exceed ten million including Northerners who are Yoruba but not including members of the Beerebe or Yorubawa community whose communities were established by Yorubas but have no relatives in Yoruba land any longer that they know of

Igbofirstfarmer:
Following, what methodology did you use to arrive at this conclusion.

I have explained how I can be disproved and I also explained how I got my data. I am waiting for someone to disprove me

Parachoko:
Where do you get this your stats from?

The numbers of southerners in ABJ alone is over 3m

I said without Abuja and Abuja will have more Northerners than Southerners. Abuja is purportedly like 4 million. Total southerners in Abuja will be less than two million.

3 percent is a very liberal estimate even. If we are talking of non Yoruba northerners In Osun then they will be less than one percent of the population and this means the average Northern state is likely to have less than one percent of the population as Southerners. This means the total number of Southerners in Northern Nigeria will be closer to 1.5 million than 3 million

musicwriter:
So, you know all that? If so, it doesn't appear you made the first comment that I replied to.

As you rightly said, the concept of "Christ" has been for thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus. Europeans coalesced all the older "Christ" stories that existed in the known world to create Jesus.

People called "Christ" and sons of Gods before Jesus include; Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Mithra, Zoroaster, Ptolemy Soter, etc).

Europeans simply coalesced all of them and fashioned out Jesus. That's why Jesus has all the attributes of the older Saviours, Redeemers, Messiah

What was wrong in my initial comment?

Gas is not viable as power source. Power costs has become mediocre for over a decade even in some European countries mainly via wind initially. Ethiopia and DR Congo are now said to be fully on renewable. Nigeria need to go solar and support it with hydro, wind and just a little gas

TokoEkambi:
Only people that don't know these things take them seriously. They were the ones that sabotaged Abiola because he was Yoruba. It was only in their region that Abiola lost (that's why I find it hilarious when they start foooooling themselves with "we vote for competence", when their ancestors voted Tofa over Abiola). I don't like Tinubu, but I enjoy their total meltdown over the fact that a Yoruba man is ruling them. So entertaining to me.

Abiola lost the SE but with a small margin. A large number of Igbos voted for him. There were also Igbos in the NADECO and there were Igbos that made money from Abacha

Basic123:
If your own destiny is tied to peter OBI,fine
Stop generalizing it to others.
As nobody died under is 8years misrable rulr in anambra.

Did I mention Peter Obi in my post?
A few hours ago seven people were killed in Kaduna and dozens in Benue.
If you are shady, there should at least be something you are gaining. What is Tinubu hoping to gain by not doing the right thing?
Is he hoping to win more votes? From who?
Is it from the Yoruba, Hausa, Tiv, Berom or even Fulani being killed? It is difficult to understand
If you are doing your best and you fail. You deserve support and good people will support you. If you succeed they will also support you but if you are clearly not doing your best, why do you think anybody at all will support you? The people being killed are people's loved ones

Dtruthspeaker:
This is a drunk Judgment. Christianity has its line in and roots from Isreal yet you say it is from Africa? The things you people choose to believe because of Christianity is craz

No. Something that existed in Europe was super imposed on the teachings of the Jewish sect called Nazarene which came to be known as Christianity later. The Jews were expecting a Messiah to liberate their nation. A freedom fighter. The concept of Christ is different and it is a Greek mythology figure that predates Christianity. It is even obvious. There has always been Jesus Christ or Iesous Christ and it had nothing to do with any Jew. Iesous was the perfect and blameless son of Zeus. So anybody with an impressive conduct would be called a Christian or small Christ by the ancient Greek. It is quite obvious that Isa bin Yusuf was not the first Christ and that the current Christians are not the first group to be called Christians

Omoawoke:
Did you make the claim that Ethiopia and Egypt had Christianity before Europeans came from your head or that’s fact? And that means Ethiopians and Egyptians had Christianity without foreign contact?


You know education is very important, what you people have in Nigeria is not education but certificate to work…

Education requires you to dig into history and find facts separate from fiction and critically analyze things rather than dwelling on “hear says” and heavily sentimental opinions

I won’t engage people like you until you go do your reaserch, come back and find tell the truth as it is

I can’t be educating adults that are meant to be educating children

Just to give you a clue of what to search for even though you don’t deserve it , go and work for your knowledge - see below

What he said is not incorrect. Christianity did not get to Egypt and Ethiopia via Europeans. It got there the same way Buddhism went from India to China. The same way Islam spread to west Africa. Christianity originated in the middle east and not Europe. Europe and not Africa is the biggest victim of Christianity. We in Africa may have been subtly intimidated but they were outrightly forced with hundreds of thousands killed.

The high income- low income dichotomy among nations.


The aim of government policy should be to improve the lot of the average person and being a high income country doesn't guarantee this. What being a high income country guarantees is that the real estate investors in the said country will be making a killing off the economy . It can also serve to attract immigrant workers.

What guarantees that the average person will be better off in any country is the government having a huge budget that can provide and maintain infrastructure and also maintain a high enough HDI. A country can get this either by having a low population and a lot of natural resources to sell or by having a very high tax to GDP ratio. The latter is the best way as industry and revenue will be able to grow together.

A high income country can still have the average person having it rough if the tax to GDP ratio is not high enough and jobs are being outsourced because of high labour costs. The average person will also likely find it more difficult to own their own home but they are likely to be better able to afford things produced in other countries that are low income countries.

Low income countries look unappealing to immigrant workers but it can be easier for the average person to own their own home while gadgets that are easily affordable for the average person in high income countries are not so for people in low income countries. The government can solve problems for a million dollars that will require thirty million dolars in high income countries and their local industry can out compete companies from high income countries because of lower wages.

If a low income country has a very high tax to GDP ratio and a visionary leadership, it will vastly out compete a high income country that is it's peer by population.

CodeTemplar:
No. It is a matter of priority. The money is there and the malnourished love being like that. It is a political maneuver

Post the pictures of the malnourished kids. We already have the information that the North consumes more cement per Capita than the South

Basic123:
He has never claimed integrity as his selling point because he knows he is a politician unlike Buhari and peter OBI with faked integrity.

Politician claiming integrity is like a prostitute claiming to he a virgin

The problem is that thousands of Nigerians are dying because of that and the next person can be anybody including you. People killing Nigerians are on government payroll and the man who is President lack the basic integrity to address that.

Parachoko:
I will be so shock if you're an adult with the way you reason.

You will be shocked? Please explain. The NSA was caught sending unknown gunmen armed with assault rifles as vigilantes to communities that are under the attack of unknown gunmen and the man is still on sit. Where do you work? Are you a manager? That is not a company that is going anywhere

Parachoko:
But nah Peter Obi who's working with the structures of criminals get integrity abi ?

As we speak, government sponsored vigilantes are probably massacring people somewhere in Nigeria

President Tinubu has no integrity.

President Tinubu has no integrity. Period. When you don't have it, you don't have it. No President with integrity can openly leave a national security advisor on seat after the man was caught sending unknown gunmen as vigilantes to communities under the heavy attack of unknown gunmen. This is no speculation. It was what happened and he did it in the open.

The President of Nigeria has no integrity

Chegesnd:
The truth remains that it's the North that determines who governs Nigeria by hook or crook.
Otherwise, we know what an average Yoruba man can do, .... sneak out, speak and withdraw to shell!
Then we're here discussing a gaffe made by Prodigal Glutton whose face you can't fathom, but like a rat, set a trap with meat and he's caught.

North does not determine alone. For how long will you be talking as if we are in the military era? There are ethnic, religious and other factors. The Yoruba have seven states on lockdown and Hausa Fulani have six. How are they controlling more than the Yoruba? Igbos have 5 and etc. There is no way anyone group can determine the outcome of a Presidential election

And the killings has intensified as at April 2026. It has now spread to include Muslims

ebuk4real:
Lol...and you believe what you're saying, the same Kwara, Edo and Kogi ravaged by bandits?

No wahala , 2027 is less than 7months. I will be here to greet you then

You said something about Yoruba being ostracized but can they ostracize themselves?. The vote under their control is almost forty percent of total and many groups will automatically align with them if there is any attempt to ostracize them. That was my point. I was not talking about the security situation in particular

Biggeststar01:
Yet if I had called you almajiri you would have started giving me a myriad of reasons why Igbo will never be president😂. I’ve never seen a southerner call a northerner that word with good implications. Imagine calling Dangote an almajiri. Even he knows the word is disrespectful. At least, it’s a double entendre.

Also, by north are you adding non-Hausa dominated regions, like the north central? With Abuja in it? Abuja is the fasted developing region in Nigeria and one of Africa’s fasted growing economies. The development in Abuja is largely credited to the Nigerian oil economy and the contributions of Nigerians from across the country.

NiN information is not reliable in ascertaining the actual population of any region in Nigeria. This becomes more true the further north you go. Because the far north has a larger portion of its population who have no use for an identity card. Many among them have not had contact with the most basic amenities like clean water, which is almost ubiquitous in the south. You will hardly achieve a comprehensive demographic study on the north without considerable margin of error.

I do believe the north is just like any other region. It has its ups and downs. There’s no difference between us. We’re all black people. That said, someone will always be poorer. And for now it’s the north.

Almajiri is what they call themselves and it means student I think. You are the one reading meaning to it. I don't know if Dangote was an Almajiri but I know one Hausa business man with a flourishing retail chain who said he was an Almajiri. I don't know if people who studied at home are called Almajiri but anybody that moved in with a teacher was an Almajiri. Dantata was an Almajiri.

Which town is Hausa in the North central? Hausa in NC is like Hausa in the SW. You can as well say Yoruba in the NW because they have Yoruba founded communities there that are now indigenes.

You can use NIN figures to compare population. It may not be accurate if children are registering in some places but it will be something to work with. Oyo is over 4.5 million and Ekiti is around 1.5 million and etc. You can use the figures to compare the two states. The North takes NIN serious perhaps more than the south despite that they don't really use it. That is the only way to explain around 100 million NIN and less than sixty five million BVN in the country. The best indicator of population that can't be doubted are things like government revenue if revenue drive were the same and number of bags of cement sold. The people doing those things are real people.
Abuja is negligible in the mix of the Northern region. The total population of Abuja is around 4 million from what I heard and North in total will be around 120 million

The per capita consumption of cement shows the North to be doing better than the South. If you call that poorer, some people will not agree with you

ebuk4real:
You no go rest with this your fake statistics Abi . Continue with your amala analysis and receive the shock of your life next year

SW contains around 25 percent of votes and there is still Kwara, Kogi, parts of Edo and Delta and some towns south of Niger state. It is certainly well over 35 percent. How far is 35 from 40? How do you shut out 40 percent of your own population in a democracy?

Biggeststar01:
I did not call anyone names, Almajiri is a pejorative term. I don’t use it.

That said, how did you come about that figure? 20 million Hausa youths?

Anyway. Economic activity is a rather subjective concept. A man trekking from city to city with a wheelbarrow full of vegetables in his hand, is also involved in Economic activity. It’s simply not the kind of activities you will find in a culture that is showing signs of improvement in wealth distribution. Millions of Hausa youths engage in activities so ignoble and plebeian, you don’t find them in any developing society showing seriousness in its wealth creation and distribution.

Hausas have money, yes just a few people. But they also have a lot of people in poverty. The two realities can coexist.

Almajiri is not derogatory. It is what someone that went through traditional Hausa schooling is. Dantata was an Almajiri just like ninety percent of the Hausa of his days.

I said around 20 million Hausa adults excluding children. Total number of Hausa people earning income in the country can't exceed 25 million. Hausa people are farmers, traders, craft men, business owners, artisans, professionals and civil servants just like any other group. If other groups are actually making it more than them then why is the North buying a larger percentage of cement produced in the country than their share of the total population? The North buys around sixty percent of cement produced in the country and NIN registration show them to be just 55 percent of the population. That is a real stat showing the North doing better than the South in buying cement. So just accept the reality that they are just like any other group.

Every group of people on Earth today have many poor people and not so many rich people but at least people are building houses, buying cars and training their kids

What work do the Hausa do that don't exist in other cultures or countries?

whippersnapper:
The only solution to the current political conundrum in this country is a military takeover to reset the present political and leadership architecture. The destitutes among us are the one's left to rule while the best brains have fled for greener pastures. The CIA asset in aso rock will think he's God for surviving the coup but inside your evian another evian still dey inside.

Are you prepared for a Yoruba military takeover? The best thing is a breakup