₦airaland Forum

Biggeststar01:
Ok make research on any of my claims u think is false. I stand to be corrected.

The fact that they produce these things will not make them rich. Dangote’s refinery, for example, at some point struggled to meet even 50% of Nigeria’s fuel demand. His only saving grace was his level of affluence and his political connections. The north suffers similar situation. They produces these things, yes. But that will not change the fact that they’re the most dependent on food aid from the Western world and local humanitarian organizations.

I will always empathize that a few wealthy individuals does not reflect the actual situation in a society. A society can be wealthy on paper (with high levels of GDP and IGR), have wealthy individuals than their counterparts, produce a lot of wealth, and still be poor. Because that wealth is disproportionately distributed, it is directed mostly towards a few people. Unlike a society that evenly distributes its wealth and resources and no single individual has monopoly of it.

ebuk4real:
Yorubas go ever regret supporting this Buffon of a president and this might possibly be the very last time a Yoruba will ever be a president of this country...

Biggeststar01:
Not really. They’re still poor. Agriculture in the north is mostly oligopolistic. A few individuals run the sector. Not all northerners are large scale agriculturalists. As such, their individual affluence does not translate to widespread wealth creation because these few individuals only have a few thousands in their workforce, most of whom are probably paid disproportionately compared to the top 1% in the business.

Also, Nigeria still imports a large portion of its food (well over 80% from what I read). Most of what we consume are imported foods, not locally produced. The fact that the north is known for agriculture doesn’t mean they own the food industry. They don’t. That’s why they’re poor.

Beautifulday:
Hmm! Did NSA say such?

Beautifulday:
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Not necessarily because they are on their payroll but because they have failed in their primary duty.

xmasgift:
If you are arrested and asked to provide evidence for your claims, hope you have it handy.

LollyP94:
Lolz, so PO, or Atiku or Kwakwaso would've eradicated these banditary if they're in power right?

Answer this humble question with all honesty and sincerety.

ibabz:
What exactly is this one even saying? Did I mention the so-called evil “tax reform” anywhere in my post? My point is clear, STATES ARE RECEIVING FAR LESS TODAY THAN TEN YEARS AGO, QED!

And who told you I’m a young man? That assumption is both rude and uncouth. Just because you’re speaking to someone online doesn’t make them your peer, show some respect, please!

I also thought your government position was that removing subsidies would free up more funds for states. So if this is what states are receiving after both the subsidy removal and the tax reform, then it clearly suggests that under this Tinubu administration, states are actually getting far less than they should.

If states were receiving about $1.6–$1.9 billion monthly in 2022 under Buhari without subsidy removal and without imposing heavy tax burdens on citizens but are now getting a paltry $900 million per month in 2025 despite subsidy removal and increased taxes, then every right-thinking Nigerian should be asking: where is the money going?

There’s no visible impact, no single block of classroom built in 3yrs, no major hospital projects, no widespread development across the country. Apart from the controversial coastal highway of fraud awarded to allies and associates, what else can this government point to? Can you name any other major projects?

If you still do not understand my points, kindly go back to elementary school to learn simple comprehension.

GeneralOuki:
She's talking about wealth spread not wealth concentrated on one person. The Igbo have a wider wealth spread compared to every other tribe in Nigeria. The VAT and subsidies that you mentioned are not getting to the wider masses in the north, those monies are shared within the round tables of the elite class, you're talking as if you're not a Nigerian.
I doubt you've been to the north, I served I'm Katsina during my NYSC, the poverty in the north is extremely depressing, that's why they're easily recruited by bandits and terrorists. The Northern elites have really done great evil on their people.

ibabz:
You couldn’t get a response from me for two reasons:
1. I was barred, reasons best known to the admin.
2. Quite frankly, I didn’t think your ignorance warranted my attention.

On second thought, however, I’ll address it, not necessarily for you, but for others reading. At first, I held back, remembering the wisdom in Proverbs about not engaging foolishness. But then again, silence can sometimes be mistaken for agreement, and that’s not the case here.

So let’s be clear.

At no point did I agree with your position, feel free to point out where you think I did.

My argument has been consistent: state allocations may have increased in nominal figures, but they have significantly declined in real VALUE. That’s the part you seem unable to grasp. I gave a simple example; despite increases in minimum wage, civil servants today can no longer afford things they once could, like buying a tokunbo car or building a house from their salaries. When minimum wage was ₦15,000 or ₦33,000, these were achievable. Today, they are not.

An increase in numbers does not automatically mean an increase in value.

Even after multiple explanations, you still fail to understand this basic economic principle. It raises a genuine question about comprehension because if simple logic is this difficult to follow, then engaging in more complex discussions becomes pointless.

For clarity: ₦800 million in 2014 had far greater purchasing power than ₦1 trillion today. If that still doesn’t make sense to you, then the issue isn’t the argument, it’s your understanding.

Let me reiterate: I never agreed with your claims. They lack both substance and logical grounding.

anonimi:
When they are talking about animals with horns, should a snail be counted

How many votes has he ever scored in any election?

If he is the only person contesting against Tinubu, he will only be helping to legitimise the reelection of the budding dictator's pretence of being a democrat. It's the way that serial party hopper Utomi helped Tinubu become president three years ago.

Utomi was the first presidential candidate of ADC, 19 years ago.

infohenry:
He also spoke on the value of the increased allocations, what is the purchasing power of the money, what does it cost now to do a kilometer of road now compared to other regimes, a bag of cement today is above ten thousand naira.

infohenry:
UOlodo, but when we drop debt value under Tinubu you will remind us how it has dropped on dollar value but high on naira due to devaluation of naira. Hypocrisy is that you?

Parachoko:
Can you provide evidence there are states borrowing to pay salaries?

ibabz:
Of course, you said something meaningful for the first time. People who are not blinded by sentiment can clearly see the points in both arguments.

I also noticed how cleverly you shifted the discussion from state allocations to the exploitative tax regime which I also have serious issues with.

Since you clearly believe so much in this evil tax reform that’s designed to tax the very poor for politicians to have more than enough to steal with impunity, maybe I should ask you the same question I asked Oloyede, perhaps you can answer on his behalf as part of your job description defending arrant nonsense: “₦150k a month, ₦70k gone to transport, a family of four, how exactly are we supposed to survive without stealing under your ‘tax reform,’ or was this drafted in some soulless, air-conditioned fantasy?”

Yes, you’re right: Tinubu has been able to increase Lagos State’s revenue, but he has also expanded its debt profile. The same model is now being applied to Nigeria. Think about it: Lagos, the richest state in the country, is also the most indebted, with a debt portfolio exceeding N1 trillion. A state in Nigeria owing over a trillion naira that is staggering. Some of you may need to take a moment and travel to other states in Nigeria and see first hand developments with meager revenue. Pls visit Akwa Ibom state and see developments. Perhaps you will start questioning our Lagos governments what they have accomplished with all the revenue and the inexplicable loans with absolutely nothing to show for it.

Higher revenue doesn’t automatically prevent borrowing. And people like you, who defend leaders without demanding accountability, are the ones enabling public funds misappropriation and embezzlement.

ibabz:
Please show me where I insulted you. I only asked you to justify your point. Yet you came back with an even more useless argument, simply because you wanted to defend what is fundamentally indefensible. I provided the 2014, 2022, and 2023 figures to show the data from PDP to APC and to highlight the comparison between the two APC governments.

Why then claim I can’t use CBN rates for the calculation? You might want to explain that, because it makes no sense to me and I believe it makes no sense to any right-thinking Nigerian, not those blinded by ethnicity or religious sentiment or those keyboard warriors whose their so called achievement is being questioned.

If Buhari was distributing funds and flooding the market, did Jonathan do the same thing? And are you truly convinced this government hasn’t begun defending the naira just to prop up rates and make it appear as if the policy is working?

The same way we can’t explain someone who earns N15,000 or N33,000 minimum wage @ over $100 are now living better and were able to buy tokunbo cars, built houses than some who earns N70,000 minimum wage @$40 today but are struggling to eat one meal a day.

Frankly, I cannot follow your contradictory defense. It’s full of inconsistencies and excuses, not facts.

ibabz:
I understand your frustration. What right do I have to question the so-called “achievements” you’re celebrating? Is that why you’re so eager to defend it. If you want to make a case, show the before-and-after figures. Without data, what you wrote is meaningless noise.

ibabz:
I believe my point was explicit enough for a kindergartener to understand. I’ve shared the monthly allocations for 2014, 2022, and 2023 in both Naira and dollar equivalents. If you want to defend, fine, but at least use facts and figures. Ranting here like a typical keyboard warrior, defending nonsense without logic or evidence, only shows either a lack of comprehension or a need to justify your monthly stipend for defending this government. Not everyone is foolish at the same time.

Richtaiwo:
Do you even understand what he is thinking?

He seems to believe that allocations from the Federation Account to the states are determined at the discretion of Tinubu. Just look at his questions:

“Why are state governors not speaking up about this reality?
Are they unable to see the difference, or is there something else at play?”

So, to be clear, the governors, all 36 State Accountants-General, and Commissioners of Finance have somehow failed to notice what he alone has brilliantly uncovered? Quite an impressive level of “insight,” I must say.

franchasng:
Suddenly all the viable political parties in Nigeria now have an unsolvable leadership problem that must make it impossible for them to present formidable Presidential candidate to challenge Tinubu.



My people said, if any time you pass something goes missing, people looking for their missing items should not look further but you.


Everytime a particular masquerade passes a compound, someone dies in that compound and you say it is all coincidence?



People close to Tinubu should advice him wisely before he use his hand to burn down Nigeria. I know he uses a high level of spiritism to subdue the spirits of most Nigerians but when a warrior is born in one community, another warrior is also born in another community.


I rest my case

Lithiumite:
Obj and gej were and tinubu were able to do it because of elite concensus that power should go south......if the morthern elites didn't care,atiku could have ran against obj even in 03......wasn't wike"s major angst against atiku mainly because of the disregard by him of the convention that power should move south after Buhari’s 8 years evn the apc has already made it clear power will go north in 31......its standard.