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What is correct is that the language of Egypt was an archaic Yoruba language. Moses, the Egyptians and the Jews spoke that language before the language of the area changed. The language in which the Book of the dead written by Ptahhotep vizar of Egypt was written is archaic Yoruba and many of the words can be understood by a modern Yoruba speaker. The book is written in hieroglyphics and a portion of it was rendered as ibn nfr du bw bn by an European meaning where we loved became an evil place. In modern Yoruba it is still ibi afe di ibi ibi even after five thousand years.
By language, Moses, the Egyptians and the ancient Jews were archaic Yoruba people. Pharaoh Akhenaten's name means strong or effective for Aten in the same way Akinogun means strong or effective for Ogun and Akinosun means strong or effective for Osun in today's Yoruba. Aten was the Egyptian sun God that the Pharaoh Akhenaten wanted Egyptians to only worship. Aten itself correlates with tan in modern Yoruba which means to shine.
According to some researchers from Itsekiri whose names I can't remember, at least 50 percent of modern Yoruba vocabulary is the same as that of the Egypt of Ptahhotep's era

If you have the o level requirement for a degree then you should do a degree in the poly after your ond, if not you can do a hnd. Polys should be awarding degrees and doing post graduate courses as well as research. Not doing it is a huge waste of resources Human and all

bigpicture001:
It was a join israeli and US military tech lab located in isreal that built the iron dome... It was isreal idea to geolocate them all around isreal in the projected shape of a dome to cover the civilian population...

So trump isn't correct!

Do you know more than the US President? Even if the Jews contributed to it in the Us, it is still US tech. Can the Yoruba claim their scientific achievements in the US for themselves? No it belongs to the US.

Predictor3:
What Lagos? Your people are scattered across the SW, not just Lagos and Ibadan

Reports say Yoruba are up to 500k in Anambra alone and Anambra is definitely not more than 6 million in population

Predictor3:
Evidence

Do you know Yoruba land very well? Do you really think there is any Yoruba city where Igbos surpass Hausa in population? I guess No. You have to actually count and the little village I counted Hausa surpassed Igbo by a lot. In the same way, there is no Northern city where Igbos can surpass Yoruba in population. Census of language spoken at home in the US say Yoruba are double Igbo. In Ireland, it was triple. Why will it be different in any city in Nigeria?

Predictor3:
Explain what? Even if they grant you Biafra this evening una go fit comot SW? We've seen you and the northerners as the parasites we have to bear

The number of Yoruba scattered across the country will surpass number of Igbos scattered across the country. When the dead were counted during the last Jos killings of Christians, the Yoruba surpassed Igbos despite that many Yoruba are Muslims. All groups in the country are scattered across the country and that should not be an issue to stop a breakup

AlphaTaikun:
NO Fula should even be elected into any top political positions for years to come based on how they mismanaged Nigeria and oversaw the foreign Fula militia bandits who relentlessly eliminated people from Hausaland and other parts of Nigeria.

The majority Hausas have vowed in videos online NOT to elect any Fula because no single Hausa man or woman has been elected as a President since 1960. Several Hausa States of the North West are actually being governed by the minority Fula Governors.

Kwankwaso is a Fula (his father was the Sarkin Fulani of Kwankwaso village in Kano), Ganduje, El-Rufai, Datti Baba-Ahmed and Hakeem Baba-Ahmed are Fulas from Mauritania, Atiku Abubakar and many more have positioned themselves in ADC as a decoy to get back to power and continue with the Fula political hegemony.

Yet some people say Kwankwanso is a descendant of Yorubas that settled in Kano. You know a major compound in Kano was established by Yorubas. This is also true for most Northern cities

Kano has over twenty million people. This inadvertently means over 50 billion naira a day is spent in Kano. That is over 15 trillion naira a year. Kano however has an igr of around 100 billion naira per annum like around the same size as Osun state. If Kano can not have the same igr as Lagos, it should have at least half or slightly less than half.
If Nigeria should break up today, how will Kano fund its budget of 1.5 trillion naira? Is it then they will know to start collecting igr?

Kano is the most important state in Northern Nigeria. Their ancestors before Nigeria were not depending on handouts to run their land. It is totally wrong for any state most especially a highly populated one like Kano to have over 90 percent of it's budget financed by handouts

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Odin13:
You are just rigmaroling with words ..Tinubu won how?

They north voted for him more than his south? Simple

Buhari never worked against tinubu personally but those close to him did.. because they all k ew what he does in Lagos and has now brought it to the center

I never said a cabal in the north .. I said the bristling left power with the north when they left and still communicate same with and work with the north , more better than the south..
they never gave power to awolowo or zik but to sauduana and his people . Zik aligned .. if not for 66 and the propaganda that followed .. the east would have still be aligning .. but the Yoruba media propaganda that brought them into the center through awolowo.. and replace the east with Yoruba
Gej is very a minority in the minority south south region yet he won .. don’t say Yoruba winning is something special .. if not Yoruba hatred for the Igbo tribe .. eastern Nigeria would have been there a multiple times
All Nigerians knows and understands the electoral propagandists unleashed against igbos during and before electoral year.

Northern Nigeria remains the key power brokers in nigeria

You are talking rubbish. Obi won in Lagos. They voted LP for President and APC for governor yet Yoruba hate Igbo? Why didn't they vote all APC?
Yes the North voted for Tinubu more than South in the first term. It may still be so in the second term because there are indications already but if he performs the South will give him more votes just like the North. Every ethnic group, every region is a power broker. Not just the North. No group in the North is more of a power broker in Nigeria than the Yoruba or how? Do they have more votes, more population, more money or more influence over the media or more connections?

You can't compare GEJ who came in originally because Yaradua died to MKO, Obasanjo or Tinubu
The British didn't leave power with anybody. The North would have seceded if left out of power. Zik obliged them the PM position because of one Nigeria

Odin13:
North gave tinubu 5million of his 8.3 million votes
East and north have obj his votes

East and north gave Gej his votes

They’re kingmakers ..

Yoruba fought Bla Bla Bala

They fought nothing …

Nadeco fought nothing .. they all ran away like cowards and left the country for abacha to lord


All came back when they international community decided to look west Africa

We’re no today kids .. we were involved right from beginning

Go research and learn your history, they came back to take glory of what they never did after 99”

Let me ask you

What was it that nadeco and Yoruba fought ?

Just mention and be specific


Avoid June 12.. everyone was involved

People used all their wherewithal and connections to fight and you say they fought nothing? They used everything they had to fight and they got the Presidency. You repeat one thousand times and you get the same results.
Tinubu won despite that Buhari worked against him. He lost in his state as well. He lost in Buhari's state. Tinubu worked for Buhari but Buhari worked against him and he still won Everything was against him including half of his Yoruba people and he still won. Maybe he will lose reelection. Who knows? Let us wait till then. However Nigeria is not under the control of any Northern group more than it is under the control of the Yoruba and Yoruba candidates have been winning elections in the North since time immemorial. What will be strange is for Tinubu to lose reelection and not the other way round.

Someone like you will say Mandela fought nothing because he was outgunned and imprisoned

There is already at least one ranch with over a thousand cattle heads in the SE. Anybody can acquire land and own ranch. Are south easterners not having businesses in other places?

Odin13:
Tinubu is dancing because he has the power.. anyone with power is the god in politics and power play.

No one is scared of tinubu.. all just respect the power of the office.. no be same tinubu wey “ tunde “ buharis cousine made sure he never visited ado villa and not even allow baba buhari receive his calls.. till akande brought him to buhari.. where’s tunde today? And where’s tinubu..
Is the power we all respect.. nothing else.. even with his powers he has limits to his actions .. and he knows ..
this is Nigeria and power still resides with northern Nigeria .. the British made it so and it has remained like that..

99 to 2007.. Nigerians and Yoruba people were singing how obasanjo was dealing with the north.. same obasanjo had his third term checkmate by same north and Yoruba with loud mouth couldn’t save him.. but rather denied it never happened

Power remains here in northern Nigeria.. do you term with all gra gra and move back to your region.

Barrack remain same.
No president can undo Nigeria in 12 years.

After obasanjo gra gra.. yaradua reset it all in 2 years.. what obj did in 8 years ..

lol

Tinubu is too small .. na Yoruba media hype..

Obj was President and Tinubu is now President. Gej was President. How is power remaining in Northern Nigeria?. If North can reverse policies, so also can South. So you think all the decamping is media hype?
If SW return to opposition, they will fight from opposition and regain the Presidency. It will not be the first time. Yoruba fought the military to a standstill. How much more pot bellied politicians from the North who feel entitled to power?

Odin13:
At the end .. the Yoruba president will make same call Gej made to Atiku .
Then what’s the essence of the northern persecution


No one is sleeping on the twofaced tribal drug lord antics
Wait till November and see the brutality reaction of the citizens towards February

The best thing is to divide Nigeria. However Tinubu can win based on the fact he is changing Nigeria from being oil dependent. VAT and CIT surpassed oil last year. The problem of Nigeria is oil dependence and he is addressing that and if he succeeds it will make him the best President since 1999 and he is already succeeding.

If citizenship were what it should be, there will be no reason to have more than one

mrvitalis:
I don't know why anyone would want to set up a cattle ranch in IMO state for heavens sake

1) land is scarce
2) the climate is bad for cows
3) the people have categorically stated they don't want it

We all know setting up ranch in IMO would lead to death of people, we all know it would be attacked , we all know the villagers would protest

In the words of David Mark the people have a right to reject even what you think is good for them

A ranch can never be a problem in any state. It is just like a poultry or piggery . No moving of cattle around. Workers will go around to cut fodder for the cattle and etc. People need to invest in ranching so as to drive out people driving cattle about. If we have ten thousand ranches all over the country, the nomadic rearers will have stiff competition

Sirianese:
These are all histories

Deal with the present day if you dare, the Alaafin cannot claim suzerainty over any Yoruba subgroup anymore...

And by the way y'all need to make the present Alaafin consult a therapist, it will help him and all of you his subjects, by extension

Are u saying the Awujale too is no longer the head of all Ijebu the Akarigbo is no longer the head of Remo? And etc. There is no Oyo enclave that is not primordially tied to the Alaafin title is the issue

Dalohad:
Continue to threaten existing struggling businesses with the rigours of bureaucracy due to your greed.

When they pack up, shut down and send employees back into the labour market, get ready to either absorb those youths or wait for a revolutionary civil disobedience never before seen in the annals of the country..

Keep pushing your luck. The tipping point is close.

When this democracy started, Lagos was not more than 1.5 times of Oyo in population but now it is more than double. It is Lagos revenue drive that is exploding the population of Lagos. Every immigrant worker destination has its government as a big spender. Watch out as Enugu will overtake Anambra and Abia within a short while

T9ksy:
Oh well, can you juxtapose that with Dr. Zik licking the north's backside ONLY to get a ceremonial post.

After the (un)civil war, where the north unleashed their fury on the igbos, another igbo leader (Dr. Ekweume) licked the same northerners behind JUST to get a mere VP post.
Even Ojukwue who led you into a meaningless and disastrous war came back to lick and campaigned for President Shagari.

At least, Tinubu got the presidency whereas no amount of arse-licking you do, the most you will ever get is, VP.

Your Obi will never get into aso rock except of course, as a guest.

The joke is on you, matey

Igbos don't have same bargaining power as Yoruba. There are seventy million people living on Nigerian Yoruba land. You can take that as Yoruba population because Yoruba also live in their millions in other Nigerian cities. People living on Igbo land including Igboid people claiming they are not Igbos are not up to thirty million

gidgiddy:
Why dont you guys take out time to read Ironsi's decree 34? The 4 Regions of the time had their own civil service. What Decree 34 did was place those 4 Regional civil service under one body known as the national civil service

Ironsi did not abolish any of the 4 Regions, and he did not stop all 4 from controlling their resources. Resource control is the key to true federalism

It was Gowon that came after Ironsi and used Decree 14 to abolish the 4 Regions, and replaced them with 12 states. To add insult to injury, Gowon followed this up with Decree 15 that abolished resource control

We have true federalism now. It is just that people don't realize it. Lagos has a budget of over 4 trillion naira and it is seventy percent funded by igr. Every state has autonomy and that is what is important. If you remove the autonomy then there is no true federalism. Resource control is not important. Nobody put the oil there and states have already a percentage for derivation.
Autonomy, control of your civil service etc with power over whom to employ or not are vital for true federalism. If a military government takes over today and says the civil service will be unified, will you support it?. As at that time, oil money was not an issue, it was not much, so resource control was not an issue. For Lagos today, resource control is still not an issue. If the military had never ventured into politics, resource control would never have been an issue.
What Ironsi did was unpopular back then and is still unpopular now whereas what Gowon did was popular then and now. More ethnic groups still want their own autonomy and states that don't have igr love the oil money

I was working in Lagos in 2022 and I know that as at then Lagos was not collecting up to twenty percent of the PAYE it can collect. I don't know of now

franchasng:
The summary of your comment is that Aguiyi Ironsi reduced the power of the regional governments to give him more control but he never abolished regional government completely.


When you abolish something, you replace it with another.


It was Gowon that abolished the regional system and replaced it with States by creating the 12 states.


Ironsi never abolished regional system, he only made decree 34 to unify civil service, abolish political parties as a way of having more control as a military head of state that was never elected by the people of Nigeria.



Gowon then abolished the regional system and replaced it with 12 states.


This is how it should be put and not lying against Ironsi and Igbos by claiming Ironsi abolished regional system whereas Nigeria still had regional Governors under Ironsi.


Like as it is since 1999, Nigeria still operates 3 tier of government, namely; Local Government, State Government and Federal Government. But at some point, Governors usurped the powers of the Local Government Chairman, but they never abolished LGA, and now Tinubu came and trying to empower LGA again. If LGAs were abolished completely before Tinubu came to power, there is no way he could have started process of strengthening LGA autonomy again.


So if Gowon didn't create states and left the regional system as it was with Regional Governors or leaders not having much control or power, a time will come a President will emerge and empower the regional governments again unlike what we have today.


So my point is, people should stop blaming Ironsi as being the person that abolished regional system of government because he was not, it was Gowon that abolished regional governments and replaced them with the 12 states he created. That's my point

What is now the difference between state and region? We can say Gowon created more regions. What Ironsi was seeking to achieve was the eradication of indigeneship, unification of the civil service and etc. I don't think that was or is popular with Nigerians but the creation of more regions or state as done by Gowon was and is still popular. Do you think the majority of Nigerians support the unification of the civil service? Eradication of indigeneship and etc? I don't think so. However what Gowon did should have been done constitutionally after referendums. They created a bad precedent. The military have no power to realign people and it is a part of the mess they created.

T9ksy:
Omo, this your propaganda is stale o! Did Tafawa balewa told you he's a national leader? He was a regional leader (just like Zik and Awo) though he controls the PM but everyone knows he was the Sardunna of the Sokoto caliphate - muslims adherents of northern Nigeria. At no time did he called himself a Nigerian leader nor aspire to be.

Moreover, the hate tag you igbos placed on him is quite insincere. He never claimed to care about southern Nigerians but for his people and if by looking out for the interest of his people makes him a tribalist then that's your problem, deal with it. You guys were hell-bent on dominating his people and in fact, the whole country and if by check-mating your hegemonic ambition in his region with his northernisation policy is termed tribalism, he cared not. One Nigeria was your dream, not his.

This is the same way you guys called Awo and by extension a whole nationality, tribalist, simply because according to you lot, he did not allow an igbo man to be in charge of the western region- yorubaland. None of you bother to ask , why does an igbo man wanted to rule over the yorubas especially one that has spent his whole political career until then, fighting, vilifying, denigrating and been downright obnoxious to the yoruba leaders and their interests?

I have watched that BBC interview many times and i can't find any hint of hate towards the igbos therein, rather all I saw was a leader who is genuinely looking out for the interests of the people he 's leading, in the new political hemisphere called Nigeria.

Tafa Balewa was a national leader. It was Ahmadu Bello that was regional.

bigpicture001:
Below is the interview with the BBC, incase u haven't watched it..like I said..I HV no tear for him..he should simply rest in peace till we all come over there



https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LS3mPhmjeW4&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiLoMCjuJKSAxXZkmoFHeGdCzgQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2v6UY2G-3oSL4COidVQwqw

He was a Premier of Northern region and what he did then is what all Nigerian states are doing today and there is nothing wrong with it. There is nothing wrong in catering for your people first before others. Can you give a job opportunity to me if your brother looking for a job is also qualified?. He may have used harsh words but the policy can not be faulted.

anonimi:
Can it be that Ayédèrú Tinubu is not a Yoruba person and that he is actually a Fulani man

What Tinubu's ancestors can be is Bariba. That may explain the Jagaban of Borgu title. That however does not make him less Yoruba. The Bariba are interspersed with the Yoruba and many Yoruba families are of Bariba origin. One Bariba even told me the famous founder of the Egba nation Lisabi was Bariba.

Love800:
I couldn't digest your comment. Difficult to understand.
Wish you could use a simple layman's explanation to pass the message.

Anyway, i appreciate.

If you sell water that you draw from a well for fifty naira a bucket but the cost of drawing up the water is now 55 naira, it means the water is no longer economically recoverable

Educationalserv:
we can only do ameachi , there will be no point . We have benin ,Ijaws urobos isheriki ,Yoruba .I rather have all this

What is Amaechi if not an Igbo man? Mind you, not everybody from the SE is Igbo.

Educationalserv:
we from North will never ever Vote peter OBI or any IGBO Man this sin are unforgivable .

As long as Igbos are part of Nigeria, an Igbo person will be President at a point. No ethnic group has the numbers to control Nigeria or to solely determine who will be President.

emee701:
Ibadan was not working under Alaafin. Ibadan once installed Alaafin of oyo. When oyo empire collapsed, Alaafin used to look up to Ibadan.

The majority of people in Ibadan came from the Oyo Ile that was sacked by Ilorin. Every historian knows the Oyos from Ibadan etc that subdued the rest of Yoruba in the nineteenth century referred to themselves as workers of the Alaafin. The leader of Ibadan just before colonisation was Aare Latosisa and he was an Aare ona kakanfo appointed by the Alaafin. The cultural head of all Oyo is the Alaafin. The military headquarters was Ibadan and Ibadan was founded by Ile Ife before the Oyo became a majority there. Would you now say another monarch apart from the Alaafin is the cultural head of the Oyo?

President Tinubu and Northern Nigeria

President Tinubu believes if he can lead his people to vote for President Buhari twice despite his nepotism that favoured his own people then the Northerners owe him the duty to do the same for him. President Tinubu wants to do a nepotism for eight years that will favor his own people. He believes that the Northerners will like gentlemen play ball.
He does not believe President Buhari's nepotism should go unanswered. In any case you don't leave wrongdoing unanswered unless you are weak.

Obviously, he is ready to play dirty.

Ordinarily the system in China is better, where the party and not the President alone decides who gets what.

The age of conquest is over and what is popular now is mutual respect among groups and shared prosperity. A coup d'etat can not work now too because it simply will not succeed in all parts of the country.

Every group should stop trying to rule others. Rule yourselves and cooperate with others. Respect the boundaries of other people.

President Tinubu has gotten something right and that is the drive to free the country from dependence on oil and gas. He is succeeding at it. Given that the country is not one and has little basis to be one, is there any reason to continue as one country if non oil revenue this quarter is less than twenty percent of total revenue?.

If this quarter, oil reduces to less than twenty percent of federal government revenue, it will be better to just dissolve the country and save everybody the unnecessary stress

emee701:
Alaafin didn't upgrade Ibadan from baale. He does not have such power. There is already governments in 1976. The government did. Ibadan has never been under the authority of oyo empire. Stop the beer parlour gist. In fact Ibadan once influenced who became alaafin

The majority of big cities in Yoruba land are majority Oyo. Ibadan, Ilorin, Ogbomosho, Ede, Iwo and etc. Modakeke in Ife which is up to half of Ife is also Oyo. Ibadan was working under the Alaafin. Abeokuta was under Oyo. When the Ibadan defeated Ilorin at Osogbo, the leaders that they captured were sent to Oyo for judgement. When Ibadan controlled Yoruba land they always said they were doing so on behalf of the Alaafin