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One man's food is another man's poison

The North consumes around sixty percent of cement produced in the country so if they are poor they are building houses

When you have to sell your property to pay tax

Who is the enemy you want to fight with the nukes? The knowledge is decades old. So if you gather some physics PhDs together they will do it easily. However the nations that have nukes are more than enough already and in a place like Nigeria it can fall into dangerous hands. The US is spending fortunes to monitor Pakistan and Nigeria is like Pakistan in many respects. They can do it but they are signatories to the nuclear non proliferation treaty and onlookers supported by all reasonable people will not allow them.

budaatum:
Doctors and nurses in Nigeria are currently not paid enough, and are japaing to where they are paid more. I say this first to point out that without free health, practitioners are underpaid.

If Nigeria decides to provide free health, we'd need to significantly increase the health budget portion by reducing that of other items like education, security, wages, or significantly increase the tax you pay, and none of those will go down well with most of us.

Basically, we just don't have enough funds nor resolve for free healthcare for all. Sadly.

https://www.dataphyte.com/topic/health/is-518-the-total-allocation-to-the-health-sector-in-nigerias-2025-budget

The total budget presently may not be enough to give universal healthcare to 220 million people. The healthcare in the UK takes more money than education

There is no way for the federal govt to raise the money but individual states can

WriteerNg:
You're the sentimental one here.

Have you been living under a rock since?

Early this year, Trump warned Mexico that if they don't control the flow of drugs or do something about the cartels, the US will begin carrying out strikes on Mexican territory.

Mexico's President told him to fvck around and find out. Also denied every claim of being in bed with the cartels when we all know that's not true.

Mexico till date have refused to cooperate with the US regarding the drug menace. Why haven't the US invaded?

They're afraid and know that any form of war with Mexico will be disastrous cuz they don't want their beautiful cities to be destroyed. Venezuela is the only one weak enough for them to handle right now, plus they want the oil.

They tried Iran but it didn't work, so now they've set their sights on Venezuela.

Continue supporting evil. Evil will soon come knocking on your door.

I don't really understand when you say oil is why the USA is doing something. They are the leading crude oil producer on Earth for God's sake and how in reality do you think they can take Venezuela's oil? I don't see how it is feasible for them to take the oil.
Drugs are a problem in the US really but attacking smugglers is not an effective way that can tackle the problem well. They need to tackle the problem from the root. For you to be a persistent drug abuser you are probably idle. It is that idleness that should be tackled

gidgiddy:
90% of Americans dont know who the head of the Navy, Airforce, Army, Marine Coros are

90% Of British People Don't Know who the heads of the British Navy, Royal Airforce, British Army and Police Chief are

But in Nigeria, 90% of Nigerians will know who heads the Navy, IG of Police, Chief of Army Staff, Chief of Airstaff, and Chief of Defence Staff

Why?

If you do a survey you will find out that 90 percent don't know here too

FreeIgboho:
I give up. What?

I guess tariffs

sunboy:
Japan wasn’t colonized by anyone, instead Japan colonized China lol

The US occuqpied a piece of land for military base, just i . Idid in Germany. US never colonized Germany nor Japan nor Cuba… instead it annexed a piece of their land.

Even if for a few months the people that lost the second world were colonized. The conquerors dictated policy and etc for a while. East Germany was communist. What is your definition of colonisation?

I read somewhere that China colonized Japan centuries ago.

sunboy:
With the exception on Japan, Japanese learnt to make deals with the colonizing powers from the beginning then became a colonizer itself.

Ethiopia was occupied for a few years by Italy.

Japan too was occupied after the second world war by the USA and before the second world war they were colonized by China I believe and up till today there is a US military base in Japan.
It is the norm for any nation state

MaxInDHouse:
Wait until Google is able to teach a group of people and make them form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4} then anyone who prefers another source of information claiming it's more beneficial that Google should be declared EVIL!🙂

Google is just there to guide you because if you were observant you would have seen the contradictions by yourself.

There is no country that did not serve under another country at a point except we are counting newly formed countries

Quoting the Bible as if it were an academic publication! Type contradictions in the Bible into Google to see why that is very foolish

There is no basis for comparison because you can't even pay your rent if you earn 1k dollars per month in the USA while a man earning 1.5 million naira per month in Nigeria is a big man maybe a CEO.

femi4:
So you believe northerners came to lagos before igbos

Which is closer to the SW..East or North

Yes of course Hausas were known to Yoruba centuries before Igbos. It was the British that brought Igbos to Yoruba land.

Quranic students and Northerners in the south doing seasonal work are ninety percent of homeless in Nigeria but the country has a housing deficit too.

GeneralOuki:
You don't even know what the caste system (Osu) means or what it really is. It has nothing to do with lesser human but rather a dedicated people to the gods. Those people who fell under that caste system in the pre colonial era were feared and sometimes respected and avoided, they were not seen as lesser in anyway.
It is because of the advent of Christianity that the osu system began to be seen in such negative light ( children of the gods were now viewed as children of Satan ) but historically, it was a privileged position.

Our Nigeria education has failed us when it comes to pre colonial history of the people of Nigeria.

But they are outcasts and if you marry them you will be excommunicated from the community

Nwaikpe:
Meaning that no one owned the place.
Everyone came from their different places and claimed thes land since it became a thriving sea port.

Abi?

If you want ed. to know what ownership means, check the census of Oyo State in that year. Then you would discover that at that time, ALL COMMUNITIES were homogeneous.

No. All Yoruba cities have always been cosmopolitan or homogeneous. During the height of the rivalry between Ibadan and ijebu, an Ijebu man became the Olubadan. The king of Lagos Eko is descended from Baba Alagba an ijesa from Osun.

Mrfeel:
I have lived in 3 states in Nigeria, I have visited many states not just their states capital but their village towns , plus my mother is from benue state so from my personal experience and places I have been to I can say there are places you will find igbos in their thousand dominating a town and only find a handful of huasas living in an isolated environment known as Hausa quarters, my mother's home town in adikpo kwande local government of benue state , I will say there are about 100 thousand people in that town I will say they will be about 10 to 14 thousands igbos in that town, there is only 1 Hausa quarters and the people there can't be up to 1 thousand, you will find igbos in all the local government in benue state you can't find hausas in fact there are more ijaws in majority of the local government than Hausa

Ijaw more than Hausa in a Nigerian city? What jobs are the Ijaw doing there?

Love800:
Taxes when the citizens can't find their next meal!
Who is going to pay levies in that kind of situation!

Unless you earn income you can't be expected to pay. It comes from income and minimum wage must be structured to accommodate tax

mrvitalis:
Onitsha is not even top 10 in igbo cities close to cost line

Onitsha port is not viable we have places close to the ocean than some ports maybe do a bit of research

Azumini is just 30 miles from the mouth of the ocean closer to the sea than warri, port Harcourt n calabar ports

A port in the SE will need river dredging and there are many stakeholders like fisher men that may oppose it

Mrfeel:
There is nothing to doubt the igbos has the highest population of none yorubas in Lagos not just in Lagos igbos have the highest population of people living outside their region around Nigeria, and there is no such thing as igbo gang up, and every right igbos claim is a right of a Nigerian living in Nigeria nothing more

You can't be sure unless there is a census because Hausas are also all over the place. They have markets they control and jobs they are known for.

Love800:
So what should be the solution or plan-B to do so as to not allow population quadrupled to drain the nation!

To me sha, this oil is enough for us to use to solve dis country problems, but diverting, corruption, less monitoring, non transparency are what kills the dream!

The oil is not enough at all. Even if it were you would not get excellent results depending on oil income. You need to depend on taxes.

Mrfeel:
There are no igbos contesting elections in Lagos so how can Igbos take over the government of Lagos? Just say yorubas are just scared of the high population of igbos in Lagos nothing more

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Yes they can be worried. It is natural but Igbos are not the only non Yorubas in Lagos. I doubt if Igbos outnumber Hausas in Lagos. If Yorubas gang up and start claiming right in PH, Kano Enugu etc the natives of those places will be worried too.

Mrfeel:
It proves the high population of people who are not from south west developing south west, so why are the igbos always told to go back and deevelop their states?

Yoruba people are also in other places in their millions
Saying Igbos should go back to their land is because some Igbos believe they have the population to take over the government of Lagos state while the Yoruba turn to spectators. Nothing more than that

Mrfeel:
You can't use number of people enrolled for NIN registration to count as indigenous people of south west population

When you enroll for your National Identification Number (NIN), the registration captures your current place of residence — i.e., the state and local government area (LGA) where you did the registration.

NIMC uses this to compile state-by-state data on where people registered, not where they come from originally.

For example:

If someone from Enugu is living and working in Lagos and registers in Lagos, they will count under Lagos State in NIN statistics, not Enugu. So you are wrong

Yes I am referring to the sheer population because that is what matters for planning and no state is one hundred percent indigenous people in Nigeria.

As for indigene population I don't think the SW is double the SE in population because I have compared UME registration by state. The SW is maybe 1.6 times the SE

Mrfeel:
I have no idea of what you mean by highest number of states per Capita, i don't even think such term even exist

Talking about the population of people in the south east and population of south west I don't know where you got this statistic that , south east is not more than half the population of south west back it up with real statistic,do more research on that before making claims like that , don't confuse landmass of south west to the population of south east

Talking about HNIs you mean
High-Net-Worth Individual. Can you list those Hausa-yoruba HNIs living in south east?

Don't tell me those Yoruba cheap Laborers and artisans, who don't even own a house in the south east are the HNIs you are talking about

I am comparing populations. The SW is more than twice the SE in population. Lagos alone is like 25 million people now. According to NIN registration the population of SE is around eighty percent of Lagos alone in population while the remaining states in the SW is about 120 percent of Lagos in population.
If SE of less than thirty million people have fifteen senators while SW of over 50 million have 18 senators is that not a gain for the SE?. That is what I meant.
I have heard of a Yoruba man building stadium offering scholarship in the SE. Is that one a poor man?. There are many people like that.
Then the ones who don't build still pay rent and that is part of what builds any economy.
Even most Igbo traders build at home first


https://www.nairaland.com/8376120/list-igerias-nin-enrollment-across


https://www.irohinodua.org/yoruba-businessman-hailed-for-multi-billion-projects-for-locals-in-enugu-anambra/

sulaak:
Unfortunately, Nigeria must either split or decentralise. There is a reason why the Ivory Coast and Senegal(secular) are more successful than Mali and Burkina Faso.

Northern Sharia (Islamic) culture is not compatible with the modern secular culture that has been adopted in Southern Nigeria.

The fact that the majority of Northern Nigeria's sources of funding come from oil and taxes from the south is an indication that the North cannot develop on its own, which means that Nigeria will never fully develop.

Even Mali, B Faso and Niger are now developing their mining industry while the North waits for handout.

If Scandinavian nations can develop on their own why can't Northern Nigeria? Their land is more productive than Scandinavia. Kano if it needs to can collect more than one thousand naira per day on average from the over twenty mzillion people living there and that is a good starting point while productivity increases

nairalanda1:
Okay, we split Nigeria

we will end up with at least 4 mini Nigerias, or even as many as 13 mini nigerias...because the problem is most of you guys idea of development is that we sell resources, share the money and import.

Also, many of those countries that come out of nigeria will need money (and splitting nigeria does not mean the end of your IMF obligations re debt)...and it will come from tax. And most of you don't like taxes....palava 2

Low money means you won't have the means to fight insecurity, provide jobs etc...palava 3.

That's why we are underdeveloped in the first place. That's why Nigeria cannot work, nor can the countries that come out it too work. Most Nigerians think that the world owes them a living. Your state wants to charge tax, you cry oppressor, your local disco wants to charge cost reflective tarrif, you cry oppressor. You want free stuff, and then you wonder why the debt is balloning. You support the corrupt, and wonder why leaders no dey rule us well.

IN short, you go cry we are too poor. Well, country made of people that are too poor to pay market tarrif for power, tolls for roads, income tax, higher tax to gdp , set up industrial development....etc....and want someone to share money to them, are broke countries. That is why nigeria is not working.

But I think you want tribal related anarchy , so enjoy.

Zz
You don't need anything more than visionary leadership that is aggressive about changing the nation. When Japan started they had only rice to export in the nineteenth century. The government took a portion of the rice from farmers as tax and auctioned it in the markets for revenue amongst other taxes and the money realized was used to help their entrepreneurs create the foundation of the economy they have today. Government would set up factories and then later privatize it.
Any nation can do it

Mrfeel:
You are the one talking about when igbos are asked to go back and develop their region like their region is not developed, and you can't deny that go back and develop your region is a statement igbos hear everyday you your confirmed it

I don't know the millions of none igbos living in south east developing south east, south east is the only region developed by its own people, you can't show me schools, hospitals, companys estates that etc none igbos living in igboland built

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SE has the highest per Capita number of states in Nigeria. Therefore they have the largest stake per Capita in Nigeria. Population of SE is not more than half the SW and SW should have ten states if SE has five but SW has only six. Is that not an advantage?. That clears any advantage you think Lagos brings to the SW. Then as there are Igbo HNIs in the west and North, there are also Yoruba and Hausa HNIs in the SE ir do you think they are all poor people? There is no bustling city that is developed by indigenes alone.
If you say you contribute as traders, what of skilled artisans? Which is what most Yorubas are in the east. Which is more important?

nairalanda1:
Yes, which is why it is better to use our natural resources to make goods for the world to use, and to make science driven innovation the basis of our economy.

But since it involves hardship for some time, make we do 'omo saudi'..

The country needs more than anything investors in the steel sector to tap the iron ore in the country but the focus is on religious pilgrimage and etc. To gain an edge in any industry the entrepreneurs there need government help. The government for now prefers to tariff imports than to support local production

lucianohase:
Nigeria should start thinking of travelling to other European countries and far east Asian countries like South Korea and japan

It is better to start thinking of creating a country that will work for the majority