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Kukutente23:
How were others paying subsidy before Tinubu came
It was same Tinubu that devalued the naira to 1350
Others before him never did such
Naira is undervalued. That's what most economists agree and we know it's deliberately done to keep the mirage of increased revenue while the purchasing power remains abysmal
Selling refineries or fixing it has no bearing on subsidy. You're just jumping around like a headless chicken. Tinubu said he'll fix the refineries. We're still waiting for him to do that
Nobody adopted any silly tax reform before they increased tax revenue. Tax revenue increased under Buhari. Was there any tax reform? The tax reforms are basically academic. Nothing spectacular about it. Just new numbers to rob the citizens more.

The arm chair economist are here again......paying subsidies with borrowed money to you is the best economic approach........" it was tinubu that devalued the currency " so atiku will cone and just cone and revalue it to say 500 naira to USD just like that at a whim,so minimum wage will remain at 70k abi,inflation will go away because the dollar is now cheaper abi ,whi h you are still going to defend with morw usd to keep the exchange rate low.......voodoo economist,wehdon sir.

Has atiku told you he is going to be fixing any refinery? He already said he will sell them and you think anyone will want to invest in there where govt sets prices......do you think if subsidy was still in place, DRL would have happened.

Tax reforms should be thrown out the window because you dont like the man who initiated it.......you see how una dey reason with una abuse,go and vote ur atiku,I will vote my PBaT!!

Kukutente23:
Tinubu backed anti-subsidy protest in 2012. The first thing he did when he took power was to remove subsidy. I don't think anyone is more flippant than him
You said they should give us alternative. Atiku has given us. Now you're shifting goalpost to policy statement. What is reinstatement of subsidy? Is it not a policy statement?
You're condused

Keep swayed,which alternative, how does he intend to fund the subsidy? How is he going to shore up govt revenue if he doesn't increase taxes or adopt the tinubu tax reform that you have all been crying is too high......what you people aren't telling the people is something has to give, is it with usd @ N1350 that you want to ne paying subsidy,is it the same refineries you already said you would sell that you want to be setting prices for......all this doesn't add up and its only fools who can't read between the lines .

hegelian:
The greatest enemy is those that knows the right things and played politics with the life of the people they wanna grow.. My very single hatred against tinubu, saraki, Buhari, atiku and the likes of them is the politics of 2012. They are enlightened, they are exposed, they had access to the best informations, they knew the right thing and the best thing at the time was removing the subsidy. They played politics with the life of the people and for that alone I can never forgive them cos they knowingly throw a lot of people into poverty and death and all for what.. A true nationalist, a true leader will never played politics with his people.. They can play politics with any other thing but not the life of the people..

What stopped gej from doing what he felt was right ?why didn't tinubu botch listening to the likes of obidients,but he stood true to conviction despite having a second term to contest......thast a true element of leadership......gej never had that and its nobody's fault but his.

FuglyGurl:

They say they dare not say they will return the subsidy. Now we are saying we will return the subsidy. Let us debate it in front of Nigerians.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​— ADC National Publicity Secretary Bolaji Abdullahi👇🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/H4IfKNnlTl

— A. Ayofe (@abdullahayofel) August 21, 2026

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https://www.nairaland.com/8732832/tinubu-protests-atiku-promises-bring

Nonsense propaganda to keep deceiving their gaullible followers.......make a policy statement make it public and let people compare with what the govt is offering......debate with who? It behoves on you to come and depend your what you have promised......how did atiku in 2023 that was going to remove subsidy make a 360 in 3 yeras to say he is bringing subsidy back.

No sensible person will support a man as flippant as atiku,ibibis even worse!!

AMINDA:
He is claiming Buhari did nothing all through his 8-year tenure but we all know one of the first actions taken by Buhari after assuming power was to give bail-outs to the states. He didn't stop paying subsidies despite that.

The states up till today have not been able to pay back those bailouts,the ways and means buhari borrowed from cbn to cover for the forex we were frittering on subsidies was worth over N30tr.......this govt is still paying back those debts......so tinubu should do same and further cripple the economy .

gare:
They say they cannot pay salaries, yet there is always money available to steal. Is that what we have now accepted as part of the job of public officials?

The truth is that the amount of public money lost through corruption, inflated contracts, misappropriation, and outright theft is more than enough to pay workers' salaries, improve infrastructure, provide basic services, and fund other critical responsibilities of government.

So why should we celebrate a government for doing what it is constitutionally and morally obligated to do? Paying workers their salaries is not an achievement; it is a basic responsibility of government.

A state cannot claim that it has no money to pay its workers while public resources are being wasted or diverted into private pockets. The real achievement would be a government that manages public funds transparently, eliminates waste and corruption, pays salaries promptly, improves workers' welfare, and delivers quality services to the people.

We must stop lowering the standard of governance to the point where doing the bare minimum is presented as an achievement. Nigerians deserve accountability, responsible leadership and value for every naira of public money.

A government that can find money for waste and corruption should be able to find money to pay the people who work for it.

How is what's happening in your state tinubu's fault if they cant pay salaries and deliver the dividends of democracy to their people.

jmoore:
After Tinubu became President, millions of Nigerians have been plunged into extreme poverty.

And several other millions are better off than the were before the reforms.

AMINDA:
This is very far from the truth. All I see is panic. Atiku will bring back fuel subsidy and heaven will not fall! How come under the fuel subsidy, Nyesom Wike built 12 flyovers, a Nigerian law school, and gave 500 million to Sokoto, 300 million to Lagos, 500 million to Kano, and other states?

Under Buhari, the average monthly FAAC allocation was ₦800billion, that's about $2.1billion. Under Tinubu, it has now risen to ₦3trillion, still only about $2.2billion. Despite the removal of fuel subsidy and heavy borrowing over the past three years, what have ordinary Nigerians gained from subsidy removal?

Who told you states could access forex at the bank rates during the dual forex market regime......parallel market rates and as at 2022 the naira had already depreciated to 800 naira to a dollar.

States were actually making less usd than they are making now.......you can loe and deceive all the gullible all you want but even states couldn't access forex at the official CBN rates,that was why many couldn't pay salaries and carry out projects as they are doing now, due to dwindling revenues.

"While only 15 states reduced their domestic debt between 2022 and 2023, 31 states recorded reductions between 2023 and 2024, each exceeding N10bn. Lagos, Cross River, and Delta states reduced their debts by over N100bn each; cumulatively, the total domestic debt declined by over N2tn. Between 2023 and 2024, 22 states reduced their foreign debt by over $200mn. Lagos, Enugu, and Gombe had the highest reduction of $74.56mn, $33.39mn, and $21.88mn, respectively."

Thats from budgit 10th edition of state by state report.

If the economy was doing better as you claimed pre tinubu,why weren't states able to have sufficient financial capacity to reduce their debts......infact states borrowing grew by 36% in 22 just before tinubu came in to a modest 6.8% now 23 to 24.

Lie and deceive yourself all you want,but givs themselves are attesting tobthe positive results of Tinubu's reforms on states finances......who then are you to say otherwise .

Ojuntana:
APC just keep repeating lies
Is this not the same claim made by Buhari govt that 27 states couldn't pay salary before they took over in 2015?
Is APC cursed with lying?

Where was the lie in what buhari said,abeg go look for a better propaganda and stop looking foolish.

Sheuns:
Ogunlere can only brag about states being able to pay salaries. He forgets that the total employees of all state governments in Nigeria isn’t even up to 10% of the entire working population of the country.

Why weren't states able to pay salaries of thise same lesser then 10% when you all claim the economy was booming.......those less than 10% are the economical lifeline of 90% of the states you have in the country......take osun for example,I can tell you how recessed the economy of yhe state was under aregbesola and buhari,compared to now that adeleke is being able to meet his obligations so is it same across many of the states.

Didijiji:
My problem is the pride and confidence this man uses to talk!

Like man is cut off from practical reality

But you love Trump and obi when he is confidently spewing thrash and confidently showing how intellectually deficient they are with so much confidence.

Didijiji:
You remove the Peoples subsidy, took their common wealth and handed over to a few governors who are not even up to 0.001% of the population to loot

APC is sooooooo demonic that they see subsidy as evil

Oga you simply removed subsidy cabal and created governors cabal, however the subsidy cabal paid the masses more

And who said the subsidy cabals can’t be eradicated without causing the people pains

So he is supposed to ask for your bank accounts and deposit the subsidy savings directly or knock on your door and start sharing money on the streets......how you guys reason like ants is a mystery that can never be solved.

CodeTemplar:
True... but now, every state is building flyovers and airport while sponsoring hajj and islam heavily.
Clap for uncle Yekini.

If not for the demonic arrangement in One-Nigeria, you denied common man benefits of subsidy in exchange for superfluity and you are still boasting about it.

So tinubu is supposed to put a gun to your Govs head to give you democracy dividends......you are too parochial and blinded by hate to realise tinubu doesn't have the power to dictate to any gov how to spend their state allocations,his responsibility starts and ends in him ensurevery state gets those allocations.

All these epistle to launder a govt that hasn't proven itself to have fulfilled a quarter of its promise to the people......no pics or videos,just infantile propaganda.

SalamRushdie:
You people want to keep pretending Tinubu has not been paying subsidy? He has even paid more than Buharis 8 years already

Show usbur proof and of you cant,shut ur trap and go leak sweets with ur ilk.

MamaFryo:
Here is my view about this fuel subsidy palava:

The key thing here is that APC misled the masses and they are yet to apologise for it.

I have two reservations against APC as a party but that doesn’t mean the oppositions are not foolish and half-brained.

If we had followed the economic reforms programmes and policies of 2011/12 under President Goodluck Jonathan , we would have been a billion dollar worth economy today.

APC lied and played politics with our future, today ADC and NDC wants to rinse replicate it.

I’m still awaiting APC’s apology until then it can’t be well with them individually as a party.


Wetin I even know sef? I am just an ordinary Nigerian Policewoman.

Ordinary Nigerian policewoman!! Your concerns are very on point and makes a lot of sense and I as an APC apologist greatly acknowledge......However,leadership is about convictions and staying true to your beliefs......Gej allowed himself to be ridiculed by not believing in his own convictions,he was trying too hard to be politically correct, playing politics against our national interests.......gej played politics,apc equally played politics and the better strategy won.

Tinubu rather should be the one that should be trusted because he has seen both sides of the divide and has chosen the course he is convinced is the best option for the country, same atiku was among those that opposed gej then but now wants to repeat the same mistakes Gej made which by all ramifications is DOA.

UrVillageChief:
Ogbeni, nobody is sticking out their head to fight a global war for a country that’s not worth it.
Those countries that fought in the World wars all did so out of necessity and desperation. The world rose against Germany (and Japan) because Hitler had this dangerous resolve to conquer the world and he was already succeeding. They underestimated him until it became too late. France and the UK were almost overrun. The countries that fought in the world war all joined the war because they were all directly or indirectly affected. They all saw the imminent invasion. About 2/3 of France was already gone and Russia didn’t join the War until they started seeing the handwriting on the walls too.
Kid, war is always about interests. Nobody fights a war where he has no interests to protect. You either fight it to gain something or to save your own self.
So in your silly thinking, China, a country that is not in direct danger in the event of an American invasion of Iran, would risk losing the booming economy, cities and the military it suffered for decades to build all because someone is dealing with some Arabs/persians in faraway Iran?😂
China going into any silly war in this period where many people are hoping for their downfall would be its greatest undoing and countries like Japan would be the happiest on Earth because believe me, China will never recover in a million years. Let’s even leave that one and look it from the perspective of religion and creed. You must be highly deluded, ignorant and silly to think that a Buddhist (of all people) would go into a War that could take his life all because of a Muslim being beaten. Like, una dey think at all?! This country called China isn’t even thinking of fighting a war to reunite with its own brother (Taiwan) but here on Nairaland, one bloke believes this country will ignite a world war in support of Iran (a Shia Muslim country)😂😂
You are being ignored now. (Thank your stars and also thank Seun, I couldn’t express myself myself well. I couldn’t call you what you are😂)

Hello!! How's the family.......you are just going off course feeling like a piers Morgan wannabe........who has told you 3rd WW is about america and Iran........if you are to unintelligent to remember america is in this on the pretext of supporting isreal while their main aim is to capitulate the perceived major threath to American interest in the ME.

In the same analogy you gave about the conflicting sides in the 2nd WW,Did Japan do all they did in the Asia Pacific because they loved Germany so much and hated the allied powers,the answer is obviously a no,it was for their own strategic national interests, Italy sought it as an opportunity to take control of North africa ro counter French and British interests there not because mussolini loved Hitler so much,even almighty america didn't get into the war until they faced the direct threath of the Japanese......so whats your point exactly, who told you anyone will be going to war because they love Iran.


Iran can be propped up to go on the defensive and hit an American carrier,the worst america can do is put boots on the ground, which os what america doesn't ever want to do and the other option is making air raids into Iran which both options comes at staggering cost to the US .....nuking Iran is totally off the table........you should also increase your IQ level too to also understand Iran has those that are also supporting them covertly.......Russian missiles air defense systems can find their way into iran so can NK and Chinese weapons amd tech.

Fishbrain!! Its not in anyway in China and Russians interest if Trump annexes the strait as he has been threatening and this will bring its own repercussions if he dares try it.......Russia can go all ballistic against Ukraine with their eyes on EU nations such as Finland,Lithuania,Slovenia and other former USSR states and america wouldn't be able to do anything while Europe will have to be on the defensive,note that these countries defense budgets have been increasing over the years due to clear and present Russian threaths.

China will go into the south China sea to checkmate American interests there and serve as counter measure to the US grabbing Hormuz a major gateway to the chienese economic survival itself.......China isn’t going to be doing these because they love Iran,they are doing this for their own interests.......this will be in direct confrontation with the Philippines and Japan which also are in conflict with China over that water space......Taiwan as also always been within tbe Chinese sphere of influence and it has always been their ambition to reunite Taiwan with the mainland, america that has always been the chief protector would already be limited by the ME crisis and limited EU support won't be able to do much for Taiwan,these alone can affect the world economy by putting 80% of the control of semi conductor market in the hands of China which the US itself dreads so badly they will be ready to go to war for that.


Nk has also had the age old ambition of unifying the 2 Koreas but are only been held back by American interests,once america starts to bleed,there would be no holding back
There are alos several other flashpoints still being held at bay just because the major powers have still not totally fallen out with each other......yemen/Saudi Arabia,Afghanistan/Pakistan,Pakistan/India,india/China,Egypt& eritrea/Ethiopia,Ugand/ Rwanda over DRC,morroco/western Sahara etc.

The reason for all this unnecessary brickbats is simply because of your lack of cognitive ability to understand my initial post in context......" what Trump is threatening to annex the strait will start a conflagration in the form of a 3rd WW not because anybody loves Iran but because of individual national interests but if he keeps it a threat then everyone will equally hold their fire.

CharlesCNG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pmp9lt191c?si=GkeTc1l2j8jZ0NUx

I increasingly believe Rabiu Kwankwaso has made one of the worst political calculations of his career.

Look at what he had after 2023.

A governor. A state government. State legislators. Federal lawmakers.

A formidable Kwankwasiyya structure. And almost one million presidential votes in Kano alone.

Now look at the political map.

Governor Abba Yusuf is gone to APC. Much of the governmental structure that once surrounded Kwankwasiyya has gone with him.

Nine Kano federal lawmakers subsequently crossed to APC.

Kwankwaso himself abandoned NNPP, passed through ADC and eventually arrived in NDC as Peter Obi's running mate.

And now we have videos reportedly showing some Kano youths doing something that would once have been almost unimaginable:

BURNING THE KWANKWASIYYA RED CAP.

The reports still require independent verification, so nobody should pretend a few burning caps prove Kano has abandoned Kwankwaso.

But symbolically? WOW.

The red cap wasn't merely clothing. It was the uniform of a political army.

So when people begin publicly burning the uniform, a sensible commander should at least ask whether something is happening in the barracks.

Kwankwaso's great mistake may ultimately prove to be believing that his Kano voters are transferable political property.

That because they voted KWANKWASO in 2023, they will automatically vote OBI-KWANKWASO in 2027.

Those are two completely different propositions.

Politics has a cruel way of teaching leaders that followers are not luggage. You cannot simply pick them up at one political terminal and assume they will follow you onto whichever aircraft you board next.

Kwankwaso once possessed perhaps the most disciplined personal political movement in Northern Nigeria.

He should be asking himself one uncomfortable question: DID I JUST TRADE AN ARMY FOR A VICE-PRESIDENTIAL TICKET?

Because when your journey begins with nearly one million Kano presidential votes and eventually produces images of people reportedly setting your famous red caps on fire...

perhaps it is time to check whether you chose the wrong road.

Dont rain the parade for obidients........he is obidients only hope of winning the north

This was my response to obidients on the morning if the elections

Streetinvestor2:
That question would have made sense if the baron did anything in the first place. Nigerians would have voted him if he could return thr lives the way it was even under Buhari

What is obi coming to do different, its that simple......we already seen what tinubu has done.

ResidentSnitch:
This one don go find way chop eba come get small strength to yarn dust.

What is obi coming to do different from what tinubu has done? I think you would have elucidated on this rather than making what the op is saying all the more obvious.

givedemwotowoto:
Abuja people don’t play. They’re already cursing him out.

You can’t live in expensive Abuja under Tinubu’s government and not feel the hardship.

We all know even this man will also vote against Tinubu in 2027.

That's why he's smiling, he can't say it because there are cameras though

Whats wrong with appreciating autistic in value......artiste get paid,printers get paid mobilisers get paid ,its normal during campaigns to be as creative as possible.......if obidients want to do it free,thats their problem.

Gunmen attack and people are strolling casually at the scene........to what purpose is all this propaganda.

Streetinvestor2:
They spent over 100 billion in osun with over 20 governors and could not deliver osun.How can they deliver SS when the people are not hungry like that region. Will the governor be giving people 100k to vote baron as the whr giving up to 50k in osun
Will baron also win imo as the governor is apc leader and was in apc in 2023 too

Adeleke nih spend money abi,nah paper he spend......money and structure won adeleke that election.......where is the money and structure that wants to stop apc in ekiti,osun and now bayelsa.

NDC won't campaign in many states and ADc is also not on ground anywhere,I am iffo LGA,ogun state,alaja precisely as I am typing this and there is no single poster or banner of NDC or ADC but you see APC everywhere you turn and so it is in every town in Nigeria .

AMINDA:
What about this first-hand report from a Tinubu-supporting nairalander about the current state of things in Osogbo? Is he also lying? Continue to bury your head in the sand. Seyi Makinde and the people of Ibadan are also waiting for Tinubu in front.

Anybody can write anything to serve any purpose or interests......we are only concerned about renewing PBAT mandate in 27 and we are already coasting to victory.

UrVillageChief:
Then what you’re saying is not a world war. What you are saying aptly describes a world where everyone takes on its longtime foes knowing fully well that the world powers are all busy with their respective wars and interests which is more fictitious than realistic.
Also, China is never going to fight any senseless war. You can take this to the bank. Even if they must go into a reckless war that will most certainly destroy the military and the booming economy they suffered for decades to build, they will be doing so for a worthy purpose. China wey no fight world war to reclaim Taiwan and ‘Hong Kong’ completely would now be going into a major war because of some Muslim mullahs living in faraway Middle East?😂 Una dey think at all? Like I said earlier, if you are a Muslim, you are safer in Israel, Europe and the US than in China.
If the US decides to take the strait of Hormuz, the noise will start and end on the social media, no world power is sticking out its head for Iran because they have nothing to gain and war is always about interests.

What are you yapping on all about.....how did the 2nd ww get to north Africa? Having multiple wars across the globe in itself is a ww.....Italy was busy in north africa,Japan was busy in the Asia Pacific,Germany was running the blithering all over Europe.

Sub Saharan Africa was too un important to be bothered about by the world powers......but the world is far more different today,its far more connected,due ro globalisation and any spark somewhere could ignite a lot of fires......its not about xtian Muslim or america vs Iran......its a conglomeration of tinder boxes a fraction away from exploding.

AMINDA:
A gentle reminder that Tinubu didn't win Osun in 2023 and may still not win it in 2027, endorsement or not.

Moment between an interviewer and some Osun residents pic.twitter.com/cb05Vv9dsV

— Instablog9ja (@instablog9ja) August 19, 2026

Whats essence of the video,I can equally go to awka and gather one or 2 people to come say shit about obi......its no big deal.......tinubu lost osun in 23 so would loose it again in 27 according to you.... ..so is it save to say obi too will loose every state he lost too in 2023.

rejoice4eva:
Pride goes before a fool.
The higher they boast, the bigger they fall.

Dont obidients boast obi will win the elections, why then are you bitter about another man's boasting......i gues its because other man get doings and you dont.

Stephen0mozzy:
A fool and his bread are soon parted.

You are only bitter,wike isnt in your camp,that guy will single handedly handle atiku and obi combined as fct minister, not to talk of the jagaban himself handling them.